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Sauce: https://membernews.org/2021/07/28/report-cdc-admits-people-who-wear-seatbelt-sometimes-still-injured-in-accidents/
Xenarion
When seatbelts started, that was the strong argument at the time.
MagmaCarta
imsam77
Well, there ya have it...we should ban seatbelts /s
WTexasStoner
Notice the author's name, Pat Enis...P.Enis?
tracereading
Pat Enis? Ehehehe
Tomigami
Pat Enis
stinkybuttfacemagee
P. Enis
seyne
In fact, the majority of people injured in car accidents were wearing a seatbelt; wake up sheeple!/s
mrkosmoo2
WHAT ELSE ARE THEY HIDING FROM US
GlenL
You think cars are real? Okay, sheep
Bandlith
I know I'm late to the party, but really? Nothing about the author's name? Pat Enis. P. Enis. You're slacking Imgur.
iamwhatithinkithinkiam
He drives deep to get the hard truth.
ZoidbergIsGreat
Gotta work hard and dirty to spread that truth?
iamwhatithinkithinkiam
Willing to go all in. Whatever it takes.
SunnyDetox
The author is Pat Enis... P. ENIS. Wonderful
gonzar09
Sorry, Mr. Enis. Could you please describe what the swan looks like?
CrappleJack
I say if they won't mask or vaccinate, they SHOULDN'T wear seatbelts and the SHOULD drink and drive really fast on empty roads.
Sheldonian
Seatbelts are made by the government and Bill Gates to control us and kill us! When the revolution comes they won't let you move! /S
CoarseAndSalty
God please stop giving the party of personal responsibility anything that might resemble an abdication from personal responsibility.
DoctorAnimalCannibalPizza
bigdog838
is this Pfizer? (test comment)
Rabidbacon
The onion movie
UnagiFerrin
Haha I'd forgotten about this
kraetos10
NECKBELTS
certainlynotaserialkiller
them memories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiuOQHTsNg
nabtab
The new republican seatbelt
ToxicIndigoKittyGold
Why is the CDC, an American institution telling us about this when it is clearly not an American car? I'll tell you why! FAKE NEWS! /s
AlpacaFarms
Basically, the absurdity of the idea that preventive measures are only worth it if they're 100% effective
globalt38
They also reported that un-seatbelted occupants may cause injury to other occupants of the vehicle even when those individuals are belted in
DontDoWhatDonaldDontDoes
Seatbelts are not a good analogy since it endangers only the driver... drunk driving is more apt since it endangers others
SparrowBird5000
Not really, though. Someone unrestrained in a crash becomes a prospective projectile and endangers everyone. Drunk driving IS more dangerous
SparrowBird5000
, but refusing to wear a seat belt absolutely puts others at risk, too.
onecowboytoo
Uh, you do realize there are tons of people out there that hate seatbelts and only wear them out of spite?
klaceo
I love how motorcycle helmets are still optional in some states...
jayman0123
We have a tradition in my house. I see someone not wearing a helmet ask my kids "What's that?" They say "an idiot" good times
BellsTheorem
sEaTbElTs DoN't WoRk!
Harryteeters
"A gentleman on TikTok said from his truck, for some reason"
robotdonkey
Wow. COVID must cause pixel loss too! I saw this a little over a year ago and it was clearer.
VitaminJay
I want you to know, I love this meme.
tgwil3
And they gotta say it in their truck because they don't want their neighbors or coworkers to hear their bigoted ass
jwillr86
? if you're racist and you're fired its your fault .???
XanderCorsaj
Yeah, when did that become a thing? Are they too embarrassed to spout their BS in the company of peers?
jwillr86
I AM AN EAGLE WEARING A HAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!
TremendousDude5
Most of them loooove tactical sunglasses, which by default make them bad asses/spec ops operators and well versed in ANY topic.
paraview
Do the sunglasses protect you from something?
pandasmakemehappy
Thinking.
Zerteiler
Legend says they protect your eyes from bright sunlight
Harryteeters
They allow you to asses the threat with an ocular patdown and clear the room of any threats using karate
SmokyDoggg
Why is the selfie always inside the car? And why always with sunglasses??
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Because sunglasses are cool. And they would like you to notice that they are cool and awesome people who know what they're talking about.
thedewser
Bored in traffic? Waiting for wife to get done in Target? Waiting to get through Starbucks drive thru? Add your reasons...
BannedGeek
They know that shit won't fly with their significant other.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
"Gotta hide from the wife to act like what I think a man should act like before I go inside and do laundry"
amp99
"I crashed into a wall at 70mph while wearing a seatbelt and I broke my collarbone. Seatbelts are dangerous, I'm never using one again!"
Galfronon
I heard that my cousin's uncle's roommate's dog's groomer got a seatbelt wrapped around their neck and choked to death. No way I'm using one
YuhMuda
My stepmother's third cousins sister heard from a homeless windshield wiper man that his nephew was in an accident wearing a seatbelt,
YuhMuda
he survived but suffered a slight abrasion in his pectoral area, now I ain't wearing a seatbelt under any circumstance!
SuperiorPebble
No way dude... my ex wife's boyfriend's kid's teacher's postman must have the same dog groomer!
Alighierian
My friend's cousin's neighbour's dog's dogsitter once died in an accident, because he seatbelt got stuck in the ejection seat mechanism.
Galfronon
Seatbelts are deadly to anyone thrice removed or closer to interacting with a dog, we should sue auto manufacturers for installing them.
Kouklo
Is it sad that I actually thought this was real for a moment? What the hell has this world come to?
LordNergal
Well, there are crashes where it's better not to wear a seatbelt. Not because you'll survive; you'll die either way. Just makes the 1/
LordNergal
cleanup easier by concentrating your corpse in one location. 2/2
Kouklo
Ha true
Ekibwurm
good read. sadly it'll be too subtle for the idiots....
gamer2k4
About as subtle as a sledgehammer. No need to act superior because you get it and some imaginary strawman doesn't.
UnriskyBusiness
This not a good read! It's awfully one sided, that Gunn guy is completely misinformed and literally a modern day Goebbels. /s
iamwhatithinkithinkiam
He does seem to have an agenda
mithiwithi
Never mind too subtle. I bet a sizable chunk of anti-maskers already unironically make exactly those "arguments" against seatbelt mandates.
Censure
Yea those dummies will never learn. Anyway I'm glad we can all agree now that seatbelts are the devil's placebo
Baughr
Hahaha! You think they can read?!?
XanderCorsaj
FAR too subtle, sadly.
XanderCorsaj
In fact, I worry that people with IQs in triple digits don't realise how stupid people can be n might cause more harm than good.
MadLogTheGr8
Probably they’ll stop wearing seatbelts
mithiwithi
Bold of you to assume they were wearing them before.
laisametschbaetzlaondsoidawirschd
I'm torn between wether this is good or bad news.
Sharkalanche
Incorrect. I'm an idiot and it wasn't too subtle for me. Therefore, I will not be taking any vaccines, good day sir /s
iamthisguy247
It’s probably best they don’t read this. The anti-vaxx shit is exhausting, don’t need anti-belt now too.
Shaodyn
Poe's Law.
DrBlackJack
Sadly, i already know people who refuse to wear seatbelts because, "freedom..."
BozoThePie
I've personally heard the "but what if the car lights on fire and you can't unbuckle?" argument way too many times.
thedewser
Freedom to fly.. fly gloriously through that windshield you special eagle!!
iamwhatithinkithinkiam
All we can do is laugh my friend
GrandNagusQuark
We can also cry, don't forget about that
imsam77
And watch preventable deaths in car accidents continue to occur *
Ekibwurm
reminds me of a post about a death at an anti motorbike helmet march...that could have been prevented by an helmet...
imsam77
*whoa*
mikeatike
In the 70s and 80s people railed against seatbelts with exactly this argument "one time one dude waa injured by a seatbelt, I will never
yeahhedugit
Yeah, actual people said they would rather be unbelted so they could be thrown free of any crash. But the idiocy traveled more slowly then.
Kbantar
I had a teacher whose friend was thrown from a car in the 80s... landing on her face. She had been a model.
Kbantar
At least it saved her baby.
yeahhedugit
It might have saved her windshield, too! There also was a model who was saved by a helmet face guard she didn't want to wear. Lucky
mikeatike
wear one despite how many thousands of lives saved and major injuries turned into minor ones." Its like listening to 2nd graders argue.
mikeatike
The helmet arguments are more similar to modern day vacciene ones. "Nuh-unh, gubmint aint gonna tell me whatta do!"
GNiko
When the British army switched to steel helmets in 1917, head injuries shot up. Not because the soldiers were exposing their heads 1/
GreaterDog
Can't wait for the idiots to argue that the COVID deaths are helping decrease cancer rates because people aren't living as long
DrKriegersClone
There's been a scary backlog in cancer cases because of screening missed during the pandemic, though. Next few years gonna be tough.
GreaterDog
That's true. Everyone who hasn't contracted COVID is still suffering from the major delays in medical care.
Theyhitmewithatruck1
Frontal airbags increased ankle injuries.Turns out you don't normally record ankle injuries when someone is killed by head trauma in a crash
override367
When you increase the number of cops by 1000% in a poor neighborhood arrests go up, and its commonly cited as to why cops r fine
morelikeconsham
Studies find that when you multiply the number of hammers tenfold while not providing other tools, many objects are treated as nails.
DonnerVarg
I'm reminded of Dr. Horrible: "Hammer meet nail"?
GNiko
any more than before, but because people who used to die of head injuries were saved by the steel helmets. 2/
ReginaKasteen
Although this is true, there's also some evidence that people *do* take more risks when they have safety equipment than when they don't.
raymiki
I just heard about this -the Pelzman effect! Something about football players making head-on collisions because helmets make them feel safe.
UncleSlam123
So you're telling me helmets aren't 100% effective against bullets, incoming artillery, or thermonuclear devices? GET RID OF THOSE TOO!!!11!
GTimgur
Grimly, this was very nearly the conclusion of some of the brass.
evilgriff
Survivor bias?
ThePastmaster
Yeah. Someone wanted to get rid of the helmets until someone pointed out that the death rate was WAAAY down.
GNiko
Textbook example.
THExPILLOx
Hehe... Literally
cenfou2tout
https://www.trevorbragdon.com/blog/when-data-gives-the-wrong-solution
Phelpysan
I think the title of the article is misleading - the data didn't give the wrong solution, misinterpretating the data gave the wrong solution
N0S4A2
Was just thinking of this example.
Higure
xephyr417
These were the planes that returned. Where do you add armor?
LyraTheLycan
Smart cookie
Althox00
Everywhere without a red dot.
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
I know this is sarcasm, but I have absolutely met several people who feel this way. When I was a teen I knew someone whose mom >>>
pfshfine
I mean, I wear a seat belt, but, hear me out... Shouldn't informed adults be able to make their own decisions, providing they don't...
pfshfine
...risk anyone else's freedom or safety?
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
I get your point. I also see how community systems get stressed and kids are endangered when people make dumb choices. Covid, cigarettes....
pfshfine
I'm all for mandates when dipshit anti-vaxxers are putting other people at risk, and definitely in favor of seat belt mandates for minors.
pfshfine
I only take issue when the government tries to restrict personal freedoms for adults, even if it's the freedom to put yourself in danger.
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
told him it was a “personal decision,” as it could also risk his life to wear it, and he could make up his own mind when he started driving.
clintwestwud
Same. The owner of the local market where I grew up got into an accident and someone made up that if he had been wearing his seatbelt 1/
clintwestwud
He would have died and then on all the idiots told people seatbelts kill. My family couldn’t believe how utterly dumb they were.
ZoidbergIsGreat
Had this argument recently too... naturally none of them had worked around EMS or healthcare.
zxwaffen
My mother was like that when we were kids until she saw a partial degloving. Now she's like this with masks, so she might just be stupid.
Kbantar
Nothing is real unless she personally witnesses it. It's an issue of almost non-sapience that some exhibit.