Feb 28, 2022 6:02 PM
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Kilroy115
Free Ukraine and get it in the EU and you suddenly have the natural gas to supply Europe, they sit on the fourteenth largest deposit
Zero3Quarter
Like we needed more proof we need to get the fuck off of oil?!?
JusGettingBy
I'll take the hit on my bills, I'm lucky that I can, but fuck Putin
Sechran
Sorry people of Russia, but as per usual throughout history, your leaders are dicks. And this is going to hurt you a lot more than them.
Imalwaysready
Putin right now:
dmTim
Still cheaper than total war
PlatonicWalrus
Fuck em, I'll walk if it helps Ukraine
akambe
Can I short Russia? Can you do that? Short an entire country?
madflenser
You could bet on the ruble crashing further, but a lot of trading brokers have actually frozen the tool. On 212 for example no Forex to RUB
nightaudron
Are they... forcing a market crash? Like sooner?
Sevulturus
Alberta has a lot of oil, and a lot of dudes ready to clean it out of tar sands... just sayin'
Smellmyelbows
https://youtu.be/WzCoEM6aDpc
ChaosSound
So buy russian currency while it's cheap and make bank when it bounces back after all this is over?
Zilthai
Hey look. They flattend the curve... Covid style.
TheWhiteBarry
Switching to electric and getting solar is starting to feel like a better move every day... Really seeing the need for energy independence
nzconcon
You have to be really intelligent to do comedy well, especially satire.
xizar
The reason we decided to let the war on emotions and plants run so long is that the middle/upper classes never sacrificed or suffered.
Every burden gets shouldered by the poor and so no one in power gives a fuck.
kamosey
Europe has basically been financing the Russian Military through fossil fuel imports.
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
Here's the US imports from Russia: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=M
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
BP and Shell are now selling off their Russian stakes. BP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60548382
RDS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60564265
PickledDundersnoot
The "Freedom isn't Free!" folks are always pretty mad when freedom isn't free, huh?
motoalchemist
rich people problems, working class is used to getting screwed over
certainlynotaserialkiller
EU will probaly suffer a bit from gas issues, but if russia stops selling gas they dont get paid anymore for it. that hurts them a LOT more.
BobRossHB
Maybe all of Europe invades Russia or deals with the resource shortfall till putin breaks. Or buy lots if Ukrainian gas like putin wants
4vie
God I hope the real estate market crashes *haaaaaaard*.
yourmomsfishylightsaber
Ugh it's shit like this that makes me scream at the screen "THEN WHY AREN'T WE TRYING HARDER FOR RENEWABLES?!" Fossil fuels are evil.
jdregius92
yeah we know, oh well i guess ill have a few less takeaways in a better post putin world. ( I hope)
urbak
I actually think Europe is going to just stop buying gas and oil from Russia, at least temporarily, to put more pressure on.
BP and RDS are pulling out of Russia. BP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-605">382">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60548382 RDS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60564265
I just hope it doesnt escalate, whether by further advancement, launching bigger rockets, or some countries siding w/ Russia (creating WW3).
Yeah, that is the absolute nightmare.
its not that EU stops buying, its that russia stops selling. but that hurts them a lot more as the EU can buy gas elsewere
BelicoseBravado
Fuck your cheap gas. We can all suck it up a bit to see that asshole suffer more
rbudrick
I'll pay 300 a barrel to sink Russia. Idgaf.
Steffn
We already do over here in Europe.
poochyena
The world? This is mostly the russian economy getting hurt
That's what they are saying.
"The world is paying for" ?
It mostly hits the Russian economy but the world is also hurt.
hardly
Fatloudorangecat
I think the right response is, yes, but that's the cost of freedom and we have to be willing to pay it.
TheSilverSeraph
Exactly. Would you rather pay a bit more at the gas pump or be fighting for you family’s very existence? Cos Putin/Xi won’t stop at Ukraine
MantisTobagganMD
Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground. Mother Earth will swallow you, lay your body down
SneezeFarts
"Freedom costs $1.05"
Ninjainslippers
I'm more worried about average Russian citizens who will have their lives destroyed. Many of them didn't ask for this.
Branables
Can't wait to see some mental gymnastics that Trump supporters will make to complain about more expensive gas...
QuintinParry
Call your elected representatives and tell them this they are scared and if they hurt the economy at all it will hurt them.
RedLemonSlice
The rich will be hit. Sad. Anyway...
D7ve
Write your members of Congress/parliament! Tell them you demand full trade sanctions on Russia
Merdock
But what about the shareholders? Won't anyone think about the shareholders! /s
Freedom costs U... Which is why America spells things wrong and the rest of the English speaking world puts U s where they belong
Rpgjgb
We really shouldn't worry about the cost.... after all, "Freedom costs a Buck O' Five". We got this
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
And who is it that is going to pay it?
sqabbit
I dont really care how much I have to.pay for gas if it means isolating putin so much he loses power, along with other "strongmen"
edasm
Short term pain for long term gain.
CameForNatalieDormer
I figure they'll jack it up no matter what happens. Greedy-ass oil companies just need the barest hint of an excuse.
Vampoodle
"ITs a SuPpLy LinE IsSue" raises prices again cause companies can't be punished for deceptive practices
& the ??puppets are surfacing more than ever now. *cough*Bolsonaro*cough* Trump *cough* Tucker. Im getting hemoptysis from all this coughing
Time to blame Biden and say we should've rimmed Putin's oil rig if we wanted cheap gas. Fucking Republican traitors.
jskskj8888
I hope they both still alive so they can try to defend this pic. But I'm thinking covid got em.
Megamastermetamememaker
If we would simply now fucking accelerate the energy transition, all this would be no prob. The whole technology is there, it's now1/2
There's one company doing more than anyone else but the media has demonized the CEO so neoliberals hate them now. Frustrating to watch.
SarahPlsz
Who? Because if you're talking about musk, he's a shitstain, but I still support him throwing his money good places
teninchessoft
Nuclear. Right now. It has existed for 70 years. Now safer than ever.
SirBagels
Nuclear can't solve this. We've waited too long. They just take too long to build and certify.
Don't get me wrong, nuclear plants are great. They should probably have a place in the future of energy
2/2 just up to the politicians to force it. (And yes, renewables can perfectly supply everything. Everything's there. Just build it.)
FortressCraft
bUT wHAt aBOuT whEn tHE wInD isN'T blOWinG
Can't just blame politicians when its the average person who is against it. The average person is totally unwilling to make the sacrifices.
Polls show people LOVE green energy, but hate the idea of paying even a penny more in electricity costs. That and NIMBYism
filben7
Its a good thing the republicans shitcanned a $1tril bill last year to switch to renewables.
AnythingMuchShorter
Because, they said, it costs too much. Then proceeded to spend more than that on increased military spending and tax cuts for billionaires.
StarscreamAndHutch
Its a national security issue and has been for a long time.
donthaveonebrojustlurk
That's a canard by the guys who own the sludge or stand to gain from it. The world would be safer with no oil.
I think they meant that the reliance on foreign fuel is a national security issue. Not renewables.
Yes. Leverage against us.
It's almost like people haven't been saying this since the fuckin 70's or before!
Ikr. I’m going to guess there are at least a dozen TED talks on it. Just like Gates tried to push for pandemic preparedness & few listened.
If i could wrap my semi-smooth brain around this at age 13 it can't be that hard!
Yes, unfortunately. I'm an EE, and I sometimes get desperate when arguing with people...
EE? im assuming you are not one of GB's leading mobile providers so what does that stand for?
Electrical engineer. Retired though.? ( And I just installed my 28 kWp PV. Nice to have around 30 kWh per day for free from now on ?)
Eel-Exclusive. It’s those who generate all their power from a small colony of electric eels. A practice that dates back to the Mayans.
OddlyPacific
Electrical Engineer.
Kilroy115
Free Ukraine and get it in the EU and you suddenly have the natural gas to supply Europe, they sit on the fourteenth largest deposit
Zero3Quarter
Like we needed more proof we need to get the fuck off of oil?!?
JusGettingBy
I'll take the hit on my bills, I'm lucky that I can, but fuck Putin
Sechran
Sorry people of Russia, but as per usual throughout history, your leaders are dicks. And this is going to hurt you a lot more than them.
Imalwaysready
Putin right now:
dmTim
Still cheaper than total war
PlatonicWalrus
Fuck em, I'll walk if it helps Ukraine
akambe
Can I short Russia? Can you do that? Short an entire country?
madflenser
You could bet on the ruble crashing further, but a lot of trading brokers have actually frozen the tool. On 212 for example no Forex to RUB
nightaudron
Are they... forcing a market crash? Like sooner?
Sevulturus
Alberta has a lot of oil, and a lot of dudes ready to clean it out of tar sands... just sayin'
Smellmyelbows
https://youtu.be/WzCoEM6aDpc
ChaosSound
So buy russian currency while it's cheap and make bank when it bounces back after all this is over?
Zilthai
Hey look. They flattend the curve... Covid style.
TheWhiteBarry
Switching to electric and getting solar is starting to feel like a better move every day... Really seeing the need for energy independence
nzconcon
You have to be really intelligent to do comedy well, especially satire.
xizar
The reason we decided to let the war on emotions and plants run so long is that the middle/upper classes never sacrificed or suffered.
xizar
Every burden gets shouldered by the poor and so no one in power gives a fuck.
kamosey
Europe has basically been financing the Russian Military through fossil fuel imports.
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
Here's the US imports from Russia: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=M
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
BP and Shell are now selling off their Russian stakes. BP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60548382
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
RDS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60564265
PickledDundersnoot
The "Freedom isn't Free!" folks are always pretty mad when freedom isn't free, huh?
motoalchemist
rich people problems, working class is used to getting screwed over
certainlynotaserialkiller
EU will probaly suffer a bit from gas issues, but if russia stops selling gas they dont get paid anymore for it. that hurts them a LOT more.
BobRossHB
Maybe all of Europe invades Russia or deals with the resource shortfall till putin breaks. Or buy lots if Ukrainian gas like putin wants
4vie
God I hope the real estate market crashes *haaaaaaard*.
yourmomsfishylightsaber
Ugh it's shit like this that makes me scream at the screen "THEN WHY AREN'T WE TRYING HARDER FOR RENEWABLES?!" Fossil fuels are evil.
jdregius92
yeah we know, oh well i guess ill have a few less takeaways in a better post putin world. ( I hope)
urbak
I actually think Europe is going to just stop buying gas and oil from Russia, at least temporarily, to put more pressure on.
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
BP and RDS are pulling out of Russia. BP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-605">382">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60548382 RDS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60564265
Lepidopterous
I just hope it doesnt escalate, whether by further advancement, launching bigger rockets, or some countries siding w/ Russia (creating WW3).
urbak
Yeah, that is the absolute nightmare.
certainlynotaserialkiller
its not that EU stops buying, its that russia stops selling. but that hurts them a lot more as the EU can buy gas elsewere
BelicoseBravado
Fuck your cheap gas. We can all suck it up a bit to see that asshole suffer more
rbudrick
I'll pay 300 a barrel to sink Russia. Idgaf.
Steffn
We already do over here in Europe.
poochyena
The world? This is mostly the russian economy getting hurt
Steffn
That's what they are saying.
poochyena
"The world is paying for" ?
Steffn
It mostly hits the Russian economy but the world is also hurt.
poochyena
hardly
Fatloudorangecat
I think the right response is, yes, but that's the cost of freedom and we have to be willing to pay it.
TheSilverSeraph
Exactly. Would you rather pay a bit more at the gas pump or be fighting for you family’s very existence? Cos Putin/Xi won’t stop at Ukraine
MantisTobagganMD
Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground. Mother Earth will swallow you, lay your body down
SneezeFarts
"Freedom costs $1.05"
Ninjainslippers
I'm more worried about average Russian citizens who will have their lives destroyed. Many of them didn't ask for this.
Branables
Can't wait to see some mental gymnastics that Trump supporters will make to complain about more expensive gas...
QuintinParry
Call your elected representatives and tell them this they are scared and if they hurt the economy at all it will hurt them.
RedLemonSlice
The rich will be hit. Sad. Anyway...
D7ve
Write your members of Congress/parliament! Tell them you demand full trade sanctions on Russia
Merdock
But what about the shareholders? Won't anyone think about the shareholders! /s
BelicoseBravado
Freedom costs U... Which is why America spells things wrong and the rest of the English speaking world puts U s where they belong
Rpgjgb
We really shouldn't worry about the cost.... after all, "Freedom costs a Buck O' Five". We got this
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
And who is it that is going to pay it?
sqabbit
I dont really care how much I have to.pay for gas if it means isolating putin so much he loses power, along with other "strongmen"
edasm
Short term pain for long term gain.
CameForNatalieDormer
I figure they'll jack it up no matter what happens. Greedy-ass oil companies just need the barest hint of an excuse.
Vampoodle
"ITs a SuPpLy LinE IsSue" raises prices again cause companies can't be punished for deceptive practices
Lepidopterous
& the ??puppets are surfacing more than ever now. *cough*Bolsonaro*cough* Trump *cough* Tucker. Im getting hemoptysis from all this coughing
CameForNatalieDormer
Time to blame Biden and say we should've rimmed Putin's oil rig if we wanted cheap gas. Fucking Republican traitors.
Lepidopterous
jskskj8888
I hope they both still alive so they can try to defend this pic. But I'm thinking covid got em.
Megamastermetamememaker
If we would simply now fucking accelerate the energy transition, all this would be no prob. The whole technology is there, it's now1/2
TheWhiteBarry
There's one company doing more than anyone else but the media has demonized the CEO so neoliberals hate them now. Frustrating to watch.
SarahPlsz
Who? Because if you're talking about musk, he's a shitstain, but I still support him throwing his money good places
teninchessoft
Nuclear. Right now. It has existed for 70 years. Now safer than ever.
SirBagels
Nuclear can't solve this. We've waited too long. They just take too long to build and certify.
SirBagels
Don't get me wrong, nuclear plants are great. They should probably have a place in the future of energy
Megamastermetamememaker
2/2 just up to the politicians to force it. (And yes, renewables can perfectly supply everything. Everything's there. Just build it.)
FortressCraft
bUT wHAt aBOuT whEn tHE wInD isN'T blOWinG
poochyena
Can't just blame politicians when its the average person who is against it. The average person is totally unwilling to make the sacrifices.
poochyena
Polls show people LOVE green energy, but hate the idea of paying even a penny more in electricity costs. That and NIMBYism
filben7
Its a good thing the republicans shitcanned a $1tril bill last year to switch to renewables.
AnythingMuchShorter
Because, they said, it costs too much. Then proceeded to spend more than that on increased military spending and tax cuts for billionaires.
StarscreamAndHutch
Its a national security issue and has been for a long time.
donthaveonebrojustlurk
That's a canard by the guys who own the sludge or stand to gain from it. The world would be safer with no oil.
SarahPlsz
I think they meant that the reliance on foreign fuel is a national security issue. Not renewables.
StarscreamAndHutch
Yes. Leverage against us.
jdregius92
It's almost like people haven't been saying this since the fuckin 70's or before!
Lepidopterous
Ikr. I’m going to guess there are at least a dozen TED talks on it. Just like Gates tried to push for pandemic preparedness & few listened.
jdregius92
If i could wrap my semi-smooth brain around this at age 13 it can't be that hard!
Megamastermetamememaker
Yes, unfortunately. I'm an EE, and I sometimes get desperate when arguing with people...
jdregius92
EE? im assuming you are not one of GB's leading mobile providers so what does that stand for?
Megamastermetamememaker
Electrical engineer. Retired though.? ( And I just installed my 28 kWp PV. Nice to have around 30 kWh per day for free from now on ?)
Lepidopterous
Eel-Exclusive. It’s those who generate all their power from a small colony of electric eels. A practice that dates back to the Mayans.
OddlyPacific
Electrical Engineer.