Microsoft AI CEO Puzzled by People Being "Unimpressed" by AI

Nov 21, 2025 12:15 PM

Re: The recent announcement that Windows 11 is basically going to be AI hell.

Excerpt:
Suleyman said it "cracks me up when I hear people call AI underwhelming,"

users pushed back on the CEO's use of the word "unimpressed," arguing that it's not the technology itself that fails to impress them, but rather Microsoft's tendency to put AI into everything just to appease shareholders instead of focusing on the issues that most users actually care about

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LLMs trade off fidelity for the sake of engagement, Engagement without accuracy isn't engagement at all.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They asked for feedback on how to improve their OS, they ended up turning off comments and closing the thread after a few hours. https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/11/16/after-windows-11-ai-os-backlash-microsoft-tells-angry-power-users-we-care-deeply-about-you/

10 months ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

10 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

They have to know. They just want that sweet sweet data so much that they don't care who they're alienating.

I hope it leads to Windows finally losing some significant market share.

10 months ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

It's mind-blowing how out of touch these people are. I grew up running ELIZA on my C64, which got old pretty fast. I also gave ChatGPT a test drive a while ago and it felt the same to me. It's a way to pass 5 minutes by asking it to explain something that doesn't exist and frown at the fever dreams it hallucinates in response, but I have no desire to ever use it again. I mostly want to get actual work done on my PC, not fuck around with a modern day ELIZA.

10 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

I'd pay to have Windows 7 updated, maintained and secured to current standards. Stop shoving bloatware down our throats!

10 months ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Every piece of software it gets integrated into is worse by miles. I'm not unimpressed. I'm frustrated I can't do my job as effectively as I used to because common software needed to handshake with AI on a constant basis. Seriously why doesn't outlook struggle now with a simple image?

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

10 months ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

Classic.

With good reason!

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why are they surprised... its most visible use so far has been giving the President the ability to shit on his own people.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The only way I interact with anything AI is trying to find ways to turn it off

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I wish people stopped calling it all AI and used the proper terms for each different product. LLM or MLM, primarily.

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

*Herbalife has entered the chat*

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

yeah, i wonder why that is, microsoft. one can only imagine.
https://it.slashdot.org/story/25/11/18/1932202/talking-to-windows-copilot-ai-makes-a-computer-feel-incompetent

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'd be more on board if it could actually do the shit you'd *want* an AI in your OS to do. "Copilot, kill the process of the stuck window". "Hey Copilot, set my screen time out to twenty minutes." "Copilot, rename all the files in this directory to replace dashes with spaces."

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Fuck, you nailed it. AI for simple organization sounds both incredibly useful and it should actually be good at it.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Give me "ai integration" that's just ChatGPT+Powershell+ a five minute rollback function.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes, exactly! Instead, it sits in the corner gathering your surfing habits and being of no actual fucking use at all.

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

All they had to do is keep releasing security patches for 10 forever, not change anything else, and they would have basically maintained their ~85% market share as a permanent money printer. Instead, they decided to assume all of their users are idiots, redesign the UI to copy the company with ~15% of the market share, and dump AI crap that no one wants on literally everything, and overall just enshitify the entire OS for no good reason.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I mean, thats MS. they only course correct AFTER they have burnt as many bridges as possible. they incessant push to throw ai crap in to everything (especially MS recall) is the reason I run linux now.

10 months ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Sometimes they don't even then. Zune, Windows Phone, buying/renting movies and shows through their own app, Games with Gold, Rewards, does anybody even remember the KIN? Right now they're working on fucking up their entire XBox experience (after buying a shit ton of major studios)...

10 months ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

So I find ai super useful as a computer scientist, and it has many other use cases, but i find the thought of MS Paint and Notepad having AI built in underwhelming.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Clippy, Cortana, Bing.. all fucking terrible. When will Microsoft get the message to "just be an OS" and nothing more.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The core of it is answering who windows is for, plus who's going to compensate MS for maintaining the OS because the general consumer>

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

>sure as hell doesn't want to pay for it. Similar question for non-MS OSes, where does the reward come for ongoing MacOS/linux/android/other development. So like most things it generally goes to advertisers (who pay them) or chasing the latest shiny object or fashion trend

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The general consumer *does* pay for it when they buy their computers. They just want to double dip on the product.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Long live windows 10

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Best thing MS could do now is to announce they will keep their promise and keep Windows 10 going, supported and updated, forever. Have it run alongside 11 with all its AI features and let users choose. W10, a simple OS that works or W11 with all the bells and whistles.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How are these overpaid people so out of touch and incompetent? Is this some kind of mega peter principle?

10 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

They must be their own Elmer Gantry to continue receiving those monthly checks. The corporate world is relentless; anyone who deviates from the AI-tech gospel in companies like Microsoft will be fired.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm quite impressed by AI. It's ability to make the techbros look desperate and show how much of a circlejerk they participate in is impressive

10 months ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

It's just crypto with a different spin. The end goal was always the same for them. Eventually AI will be replaced with the next rich person gamble.

10 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Cryptocurrency doesn't fill the internet with useless garbage to completely bury any useful information the way AI does.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It does, though, it just comes out of the mouths and typing fingers of douches instead.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

LLMs at least are kinda useful in its original intended way. crypto currency just burns trees for fun.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

TO SHUT OFF AI: Disable Connected Experiences: Go to File → Account → Manage Settings → Privacy Settings.
Turn off: “Optional connected experiences”, “Connected experiences that download online content”, “Experiences that analyze your content”. This cuts off most cloud-AI access (Copilot, Editor, Designer, etc.).
In Word / Excel / PowerPoint / Outlook, go to: File → Options → Advanced → Copilot / Microsoft 365 Chat / AI features.
Uncheck “Enable Copilot” or “Show Copilot in this app.”

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

FuckMS (DOT)

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

dot

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

AI, in my opinion, is only good for two things. It's great at hunting down one-off or truly obscure information and it's useful as a tool to encourage creation. By the last one, I don't mean stealing art I mean getting creative juices flowing.

Beyond that it can never replace people because if you hand it anything remotely complex then it stumbles around, it can't make good decisions in unique situations, and it's made so nice it makes errors intentional to please the user.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I have no idea wtf Microsoft are doing anymore. Like, Xbox arguably the best console for gaming, today trash and kimda feel lilr they are abandoning it. Windows, world leading operating system and has been with me since the first time I got my hands on a computer, and today I don't even want to be in the same room as it. Like wtf happened Microsoft?

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

That's because they tried to abandon Xbox. They went to Sony and Nintendo and said "let's pool our resources to make a singular console!" without considering that either of them would say no (they both did). Now they're being forced to basically start from scratch to try and be relevant, since they fired a bunch of people from the Xbox division.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I had a Windows phone, a Lumia 630 running Windows 10, and the UI was fantastic. I'd go back to it today in a heartbeat if it had the apps I need. But they killed Windows Phone. I loved using Cortana, it was useful and could work without a network (unlike Siri) but they killed that too. They didn't just stop developing it, they actively removed features and then removed it. Windows still has a Fax And Scan utility FFS but they couldn't leave Cortana on people's machines because reasons.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Right? I've been on Windows since it came on two dozen floppy disks, and I just installed Linux Mint earlier this month.

10 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Yeah same. I'm running a bunch of different distros including Mint (daily driver) and Bazzite for the gaming machine, aswell as proxmox when I want to test different distros and server stuff. I really have gotten the exploration feeling back after porting over to Linux and I have Microsoft to thank for it lol.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Exactly what I'm thinking. Hey this is fun again, I can do whatever the fuck I want, instead of just taking the slop that's being served and saying thank you sir may I have some more.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think what's happening is you're seeing them clearly for the first time.

Windows was only ever "world leading" insofar as they engaged in illegal behavior to force market dominance with a shitty product. "DOS ain't done til Lotus won't run."

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

AI is impressive when you're asking it about something you don't know anything about, because the answer it spits out seems sufficient to someone who doesn't know what might be wrong with it, but once you ask it about something in which you're a consummate expert, you'll see that it falls apart under any scrutiny. That's why it's a bad tool, because only someone who already knows what they're doing will be able to catch its' mistakes, but an expert wouldn't need it or use it in the first place.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Case in point: I build custom computers for people for a living. Lots of them come to me with questions about builds suggested by AI. Often times the builds are terrible value, old parts, incompatible, or literal hallucinations of parts that don't exist but that the AI imagines might exist in the future based on current part numbers / naming schemes. It's atrocious. So an expert like me would never ask an AI to build a PC for them. But to the customer who doesn't know, the list looks awesome.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

And so if it only looks like it's doing a good job because you don't actually know what a good job would look like, then it's not meant for you. But if you already know how to do a good job, it's not meant for you either. So who is AI meant for? Shareholders, c-suite, executives, managers, HR. People whose only job is to have useless meetings and write useless emails about those meetings. AI is fantastic at those two things and these people assume it'll do everything else so they can fire people

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

But in reality, it can only do their jobs really well because their jobs are bullshit. TLDR AI has achieved the exact opposite that the execs wanted it to by illuminating how useless, easy, and stupid their own jobs are because the AI can do them competently already, and their own incompetence in assuming that it can also replace all the lower level workers too since it can do c-suite jobs so well, without realizing that those lower jobs are how the company actually functions and require humans.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'd argue that's using the tool badly. It doesn't help with the language styling it uses in answers, but putting that aside, what it's really good for us getting started in a subject matter. e.g. giving you a breakdown of component types you need you to put in (cpu, mobo, ram, psu, etc). I find it very good at quickly cutting through the crap online and giving me the brief introduction and terms I can start more thorough research on.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You know what Microsoft could do that would impress me? Let me paste a picture into Word wherever I want to without screwing up the formatting of the entire document.

10 months ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 1

The "I don't know how to do a very easy and very basic function of the most common workplace tool in the world" joke makes as little sense to me as the "My body is so weak that bland ground beef and fresh vegetables on a tortilla give me explocive diarrhea." I just don't get them but you mention MS Word or Taco Bell you have people proudly bragging of incompetence and digestive issues.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 7

Skill issue

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If there's a meme about it, you know it's a universal truth.

10 months ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

And the after effects:

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Or an ai that is actually useful. Maybe do my dishes and laundry.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Everything about Office is fucking wank.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

In the distance, sirens.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Will not happen. Can't happen, due to choices made many years ago that are at the base of the project. Changing those would mean a deep rewriting of the program, or at the very least some kludge that would disrupt and/or make very hard maintaining the retrocompatibility with the current and older versions. Every time someone suggested a possible trick, we received this same answer.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

It's because Microsoft wrote a program that tried to be everything for everybody, which never works out well.

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Dude, no. This is just a meme joke. It is trivially simple to move pictures in Word without changing anything else. It takes 10 seconds to learn how and takes two mouse clicks to chang image alignment. It's like the Taco Bell diarrhea joke - no one actually has an issue with it.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

Dude, yes. I've been coding since 1969, I've used DTP programs and word processors that existed long before Microsoft ever really became a thing. MS Word is a piece of shit, and I know how to manipulate images.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Idc win 10 isn't supported anymore, im not getting win 11. Helped a friend put a computer together over the last weekend, and he is gonna go with Linux. On my next build out ill likely do the same. Fuck this ai slop shit

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Smart not to get 11. Those in the inside know it's a mess.
https://www.xda-developers.com/pretty-much-everything-important-windows-11-has-broken/

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've tried switching to Linux so many times. I get pissed off when something doesn't work, and you're expected to spend hours following 'help' videos, typing random sht into the command lines, which only ever works about 60% of the time. I love the idea of linux, but unless you actually want to learn all the command line gibberish, it's a fucking nightmare.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Which Linux have you tried using? To be fair I've successfully used Linux in the past but didnt commit to full switch for convenience but Ai is enough that its becoming inconvenient these days. I also grew up using command line back in the day, so I've got a bit of an edge. Plus I've used previous emulators on Linux to make up for lacking of cross platform programs or video games with great success, but yeah im curious which Linux you've used in the past

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ubuntu, DSL, Mint, Puppy.. to name a few.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I used to mess with ubuntu a long while back. Considering checking out mint and arch. Maybe ill fall in love

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which would you recommend to an autistic person with a slow learning curve, to be kind of similar to some windows users? Asking for a friend

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Im not super well versed these days, but maybe I can help point your friend in the right direction. If i cant ill ask my super sweet nerd gf lol. What does your friend use the computer for? Gaming, web browsing, content development etc etc

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Appreciate it, fellow imgurian! Mostly office work with some gaming, so lots of MS office documents, some adobe (photoshop, premiere pro, minimal illustrator, acrobat) and a bit of gaming on free time

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How many bubble-bursts have ya’ll lived through? I’ve lost count. It’s always a gimmick that transfers tax dollars to the richest fuckers in the world, and when it bursts, there are no consequences for anyone but the working class. Fuck these tech bro assholes. Reject AI in any and all forms.

10 months ago | Likes 318 Dislikes 5

Zero IQ take. You've been using AI if you ever used autocorrect... Or Google image search.... Or regular Google search... Or ever clicked on a recommended product... AI is more than just ChatGPT and image generators. AlphaFold is one of the marquee advancements of this decade.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Butlerian Jihad now!

10 months ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Once in a life time events now seem to be based of the life time of a fruit fly...

(40 to 50 days in ideal conditions)

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

These cocksuckers are always building a bubble. We need to cease bailing out businesses. They build bailouts into their projections. Let them sink, and die. Create space for something more efficient, and effective.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I literally listened to a director at my place say this yesterday: "studies have shown people who use ai an average of once per day are 1.5 times more productive." I wanted to just slap him. How can you seriously believe that bullshit? 1.5 TIMES more productive?! Fuck you. Fuck that. Fuck all this AI shit.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I remember the dotcom and biotech bubbles. Oh and a few housing bubbles. Otherwise I am not sure. This one will burst in the next 2-3 years because it is unsustainable. Only way it doesn't is if they create AGI, and they can't do that with LLMs, so here we are.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Knowing what we should do and what humanity will do are 2 separate things...

I agree with you...but Im curious to know: do you think there is any PROBABLE way to stop what has been set in motion?

Or all we all kinda just waiting around for the inevitable fallout/consequences?

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Cheers

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The problem with an infinite growth economic model is that there must always be a new and exciting frontier to move on to once the last new and exciting frontier has been fully exploited.

So once all the existing fields are saturated, and an entirely new field isn't obviously available, you have to invent one, even if it's not real, or else your economic model collapses.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Reject AI in any and all forms." Wish we could at my org. Unfortunately microshaft has baked it into everything.

And the people in the org who could authorize blocking and disabling all of it, the c-suites, including the CSO of all people, love it because it writes their emails for them and summarizes the only work they do, lengthy meetings, into small blurbs.

10 months ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 0

Our work is looking at alternative products for a customer that's unhappy with their current software. When I asked my manager what made a particular alternative better, he said "it's AI"

Yeah...i'm filled with confidence...

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I feel like this is very short sighted. Yes there is a lot of AI bs that is useless or harmful. But there is genuine use for it in some fields, like legal, administration, medical testing, etc. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

10 months ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 26

Yeah, I subscribe to cutting edge law AI. It's good for: 1) detecting when an opponent uses AI or makes shit up, 2) giving me correct citations for shit I already know is true (I still check them), 3) giving me a lead to start from when I'm completely clueless. So, not useless, but not a game changer.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

NO NO NO NO NO THOSE ARE THE WORST THINGS YOU COULD HAVE POSSIBLY PICKED FOR USES NEVER MAKE DECISIONS PLEASE

10 months ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

legal: hallucinates laws (already happened). admin: use to justify killing people based on hallucinations (already happened, military, insurance). medical testing: unnessasary costs and mental strain on patients, worried about diseases the AI hallucinated, further reducing our already falling trust (as a country) in doctors. You literally could not have picked worse.

10 months ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

We use it at my work. The main application is pattern matching as we have a huge amount of image data to process. It's pretty good at that, but it needs babysitting. We used to use university students to do so it & it's freed them up to do more meaningful work. That's the kind of application it should be used for

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

When my CLIENTS send me Chat-GPT stuff, though... so far it's been 3/5 wrong or hallucinating, and it wrote a contract with all the boilerplate right but completely missing an indemnity provision (kind of important).

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've heard it's actually very good for medical testing, but fortunately most of us aren't in a position to reject it in that particular form.

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

yeah lets just expose all our most important problems to a statistical chance of failure. thats a great idea. think of all the labor failing used to take us, now automated!

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's because AI is, at its core, pattern recognition. Most medical testing is a better version of WebMD, where a set of symptoms should fit into a series of patterns. Where the humans beat AI is when the pattern is slightly off, and the humans are generally more imaginative at alternate hypothesis, because the computer will always give the best/most likely match, because frequency comes into play.

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

It's good at many things and it's going to get better at many other things. This idea that we need to reject it in its entirety is incredibly naive. It can save an immense amount of labor EVENTUALLY, though we're not there yet.

The thing we need to reject is the idea that corporations and billionaires will be the ones to see all of the benefits from this. We need to push for UBI and/or shorter work weeks so that we all benefit from it.

Oh, and tax the fuck out of billionaires.

10 months ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Fuck that noise. AI is useful. The main problem is a circle of investments that are trying to show financial growth where there is none, and siphoning money out of outside. Several AI companies now have 30% of USA gdp and when that pops it will be hilarious.

Just because a lot of AI tools on offer are shit, does not mean the concept is shit. Same was for web 2.0. Everything had to be shoveled into it, but nowadays we have useful stuff, like ecomerce and so on. After bubble pops useful AI stays

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 11

Yeah, as someone in the automation field, AI is useful *when it is used for the right things*. The problem is that every company is trying to shove AI into every place they can think of and not using it for best suited purpose and it MAKES ME SO MAD

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Which is a big part of the bubble. You add AI to your product and your evaluation and investments shoot up. It is sad.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

AI is useful like a gun is useful. It's useful in a handful of situations, but uou don't try to force it into everything, cause it's going to make shit worse.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I was born in '85, so... 4? There was the video games one, the dot com one, the housing market one, and the crypto one.

Although that last one is overinflated again, so we might get a two for one this time, if it goes off at the same time as the AI one does.

10 months ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Don’t forget nfts

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The AI bubble is so scarily huge that we might go full global financial collapse. Doesn’t help that the people best situated to control the collapse have repeatedly shown all they care about is looting everything not nailed down.

10 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

are you considering Crypto to also be NFT? Also don't forget Metaverse, Google Glass (now back again) how about Segway and the "Hoverboard" oh oh and 3D TV/Movies


There's been so many...

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Calling segways or Google Glass a bubble rather than a lackluster product seems like a bit of an exaggeration.

10 months ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

it got quite a bit of investment but I added it mostly because of the dang AI glasses we have now.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Video game crash was 83 but I think it's close enough to count.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

And another crash is probably coming, the aaa gaming space is in a pretty bad place, even if indies are thriving.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ah, you're right. So it's only 3 so far. I'll call that progress lol

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Let's split the difference and say that you were alive in the aftermath since the NES wouldn't be until 86.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have truly been trying to understand what it is that I'm missing with these tools. None of them are all that impressive. I feel like I'm missing the "ohhhhh, that's what makes them awesome"

10 months ago | Likes 81 Dislikes 1

Listen I hate generative ai too but I have a ray ban meta pair of prescription glasses and they’re pretty magical. Listen to podcasts, take pics, use ai like Siri, hands free. Ask it what the origin of the word “gestalt” is. Ask it where you parked your car. It’s pretty cool. There are certain things.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Your phone and a pair of earbuds can do all that without killing us all by collapsing the economy

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A pair of earbuds cannot take a picture and I also cannot wear earbuds all day long. So you’re just wrong.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The people who seem most impressed by AI are the people who are used to telling other people what to do, and the people who *want* to talk to their computer.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Well, see... techbros are complete fucking morons. So that is why they are impressed by it. They also expect an LLM to turn into an AI God.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

for the majority of things they are pushing it for, its not impressive and its not close to being ready. its good at being an aid to someone thats skilled at that task, its also good at making someone thats meh look mediocre. what these CEOs see is the equivalent of you top employees that works for free and does hours of work in moments. its a numbers game where quantity looks good and quality doesnt as it eats up time, resources and costs.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You aren’t trying to eliminate jobs and embezzle the difference

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can talk to your computer like star trek,,and it can do some amazing stuff. Place i work was able to cut some tasks like company evals and what not from weeks to days by loading data into ai. One team shove ours and a customers data into ai asking for cost optimizations, and 80% of the things were actionable saving millions. It's like a really eager assistant. Have to double check its work.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It can help a lot with administrative things. Much of what I need it for is like data entry between forms, searching for referral contacts, writing counters and reviews, all things that are just laborious and could be 80% handled by an AI, so that my brain can be used for other tasks rather than popping around several Google sheets and Gmail. It can also help provide structured presentations quickly which you can then modify to what you want but it did most of the grunt work in MAKING and 1/

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

designing the presentation. making a powerpoint could take perhaps a half hour, but an AI could make it in 30 seconds and I can modify what I want in 5 minutes. It's not ideal for everything but for basic admin stuff it's EXTREMELY useful, and I could see it being useful in government admin as well since bureaucracy and form checking is what slows it down so much. Guess what an AI would be perfect for?

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

The demo from Microsoft trying to change the font size. That was so embarrassing.

10 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I only have been mildly impressed by three forms of AI. 1. At work, Glean searches across 30+ years of documentation finding accurate information buried in outdated and incomplete documents, compares all the info and determines what is likely to be the correct information, with summary and sources. It really cuts down on me having to ask others for tribal knowledge. Before Glean, I was blocked for 7 hours looking for an answer to my question. After Glean I had that answer in about 20 seconds>

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2. Medical uses. To help people evaluate medical tests. Note I say HELP people. AI should never be unsupervised. This helps prevent employee fatigue, reduces missed things in imaging and speeds up the processing of test results, which enables us to get people into treatment faster. Saving lives. 3. Dungeon Box, a video game, uses AI to run a DND style party game. Instead of having a few options to select in the story, you are able to type in exactly what you actually want to do, and the AI >

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

is able to respond in a way that sounds natural and progress the campaign in a way that actually takes your input into account. Now this example is ok in a silly party game scenario like this one. I don't think the AI could, or should be able to replace actual writers by manipulating the story in games like Baulder's Gate 3, but I do think it could be used to enable natural conversation between player and characters instead of premade response selection. Unfortunately, the uses for AI that the>

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AI grifters are pushing are more showy than actually useful, and are causing idiot CEO's and Politicians to actually replace people and/or invest in things, creating companies and projects and jobs that are doomed to fail. I hate it.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There is a large contingent of paper pushers for whom the quality of AI's output is not significantly different than their own. They are poor at their jobs and AI does in fact "help" them to produce low effort output with lower effort on their part.

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

The "what makes it awesome" is the amount of money they're getting. That's it. Where TF that's coming from idk

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Anyone who says it can't do anything useful better get ready for the layoff because they will be outmaneuvered by someone with their title who figured out how to leverage the capabilities that exist now. Some of the use cases in software development are killer apps, prototyping, code base search, creating documentation from code automatically. The frontier is continuing to grow too. Last year it was massively less capable than this year after MCP. Trend will continue.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You're not missing anything. They're all shiny widgets that don't actually DO anything useful.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

My company is pushing chatgpt and having all kinds of meetings on how it's awesome and it's uses. Maybe ofr the sales or project side but I can't find any uses on the engineering side and we've had to clean up multiple messes from our tier 1 support who have tried using it to resolve issues and breaking things further.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

AI offers advanced data processing and human interfacing. If you have no need for that, you will be unimpressed.

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 7

You're not wrong. You know what I'd love to see AI do that seems fully impossible? Normalize the volume of streaming content.

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It does those things so fucking poorly. Just really really really badly.

10 months ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

None of it has that, its why its a bubble waiting so burst. Immense amounts of money ia being pumped into it, and so far it doesnt really deliver. When those investors start to demand some results, itll all go bottoms up.

Theres plenty of useful ai stuff, sure, but not at the scale that warrants so much money and resources.

So companies like microsoft are desperate to find a problem for their “solutions”.

10 months ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

Hopefully soon.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you're a company that uses and analyzes a ton of data, AI is very good at speeding that process up. Otherwise its really not that useful so far in my experience

10 months ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

The other part of the problem is that if and when it does deliver, then what? UBI or some other support system will be needed for all the people that dont have a job.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You never need to translate anything in a language you don't speak?

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Google translate worked just fine before ai

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

oh buddy, Google translate is AI

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

i mean hey its fucking magic. Computers used to be math machines that did exactly one thing. Now there really is a bridge between natural language and meaningful outputs. THAT SAID, its only able to be harnessed by evil wizards who want to use it to poisen the atmosphere, so its not really an option, and even if it was its not good enough magic yet to be useful enough to replace our current options

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

To me, they're amusing toys at best. Ones I have limited interest in.

10 months ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

I find it fairly useful as a programming aid. Not a programmer, fuck that, it's pretty much always wrong about specifics, tool use, operating environments, etc. But I just treat it as a big aggregator that keeps track of all my failed attempts and also occasionally finds a 12 year old stack exchange post that didn't use any of my keywords but answers my question perfectly.

Otherwise it can go to hell. No one needs image or video manipulation and blatant artist/writer/performer theft.

10 months ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 3

Here's the thing dude. If you keep using it, they'll keep pushing it, destroying jobs and the environment, cramming it into every god damn thing.

STOP. USING. AI.

Does it make you a tiny bit more productive? DOESN'T MATTER! STOP FUCKING USING IT! All you're doing is making the problem worse, and destroying other people's livelihoods.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Right now it's still at the stage of having a slightly dopey (but hopefully well meaning) teenager trying to help you out. Sometimes it's fine. Sometimes it's hilariously wrong. But you need to keep a very close eye on it and so many companies are just like here let it rummage through your pill cabinet and personal data! Be cool, man!

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

For all its faults, the one thing I like about Google's AI summaries is that it sometimes cites the sources it pulls from, so that you can check the information for yourself.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a uni student it's a good spell checker. Also OK for quick refreshes of terms and theories

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's a worse spell checker than traditional spell checkers though? And that's before you account for the extra computer processing /power needed to do the task

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Gotta warn you, though I'm sure you already know, I've had it spit out more than one completely incorrect definition for a number of computer/programming topics because it matched my query with another one answered by a person completely incorrectly. As far as I can tell, hallucination is getting worse, not better

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

On image manipulation, I don't think anyone needs generated images, but AI image processing like DLSS and FSR are fantastic. DLSS is the only form of AI use that I wholeheartedly endorse because it breathes life into older systems and allows people to run games at quality settings they wouldn't normally be able to afford. That's not a bad thing. It's bad when the game runs so poorly that it requires DLSS to even function, but overall it's not bad to have an extra performance boosting feature.

10 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Should have specified, nothing wrong with using it as an aid like that, as far as I'm concerned, that's the best use case for it. Dynamic processing that would be a colossal pain in the ass to hard code. It's specifically generation I don't like.

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

And even generation can be employed in a decent way, im working on training my own bot, but the data its being fed on, is own generated, not scouring the internet to steal others works.

So even that tech has its legit uses. Its not the tech thats at fault, but how companies choose to exploit it

Llm-Ai is definitely useful, but most of it gets advertised as the magic it isnt. And most of that is gained by the labor of others who go uncredited. That there is the problem

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It’s useful for tedious stuff like “make a script that organizes this data into a spreadsheet”, or “reorganize this list and remove all the ____”. Stuff that would take a lot longer to do manually. Sometimes it’s good for troubleshooting scripts/issues with things. But yeah, I wouldn’t trust it to replace an entire worker. It’s a fucking tool. But as they replace more and more workers with these Ai things, the enshittification gets worse and worse. And what’s more, Ai needs a constant supply.

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

So macros. Agreed. "Import these 5000 images, reduce image size to 1/2, export as filename_halfsize." G'deal.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So what’s gonna happen when it runs out of updated relevant info/code examples to rip off because everyone’s fuckin unemployed?? Not gonna be pretty. And it takes time & money to train junior roles up. But those jobs are going away now. We’re headed for a cliff in a lot of fields.

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This, for example: https://youtu.be/P_fHJIYENdI

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I can't watch with sound, got a tl;dr?

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's a Veritasium video about using AI (not the same ones being foisted on all of us everywhere) to fold proteins for medicines and such.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks!

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's what AI SHOULD be doing. All of this chatbot/"assistant" nonsense is what they're trying to push, and it's failing.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They're using predictive AI to predict protein shapes. Chatbot AIs also predict an output based on an input, so research into the latter can offer solutions to problems in the former. I'm not saying that pushing AI everywhere as hard as they're doing is a good thing, or that they're even helpful. But the research into making them better can help AI developers in other fields.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I completely agree. The way they're going about it though is 100% "testing in production." The same way that Elon is killing people with FSD in the name of "improving the model." None of this shit is ready for prime time yet.

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