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supersmashsisters
Isn't 1.7 meters still pretty short, though?
Voidkom
Not for that time! People used to be much shorter. For example, average french height in 1900 was 166 centimeters.
IChangedMyUsernameBecauseICan
That one about Einstein. The myth and reality presented here, does not cancel out each other. And they're both true.
Kreia
Myth: Thomas Edison invented 'push-ups'. Reality: Nikolai Tesla had in fact patented it 3 years earlier, under the name 'Tesla-cize'
Caffynated
About as accurate as most Tesla posts.
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Ok Edison did actually invent the "conventional" bulb, not a method to keep on one, but a filament that stayed lit. i.e., a light bulb.
Jojuhama
I would think keeping the light bulb on is quite essential to function of a light bulb...
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Before him was the arc lamp, so bright and inefficient it would burn out after only a few hours of use.It used a literal arc of electricity.
AnotherBiasedFanboy
Egypt was part of the Greek Ptolemaic empire when Cleopatra was born, so actually loads of people from Egypt were Greek at the time.
WhereTheShadowsLieZX
Fun fact the Ptolemaic dynasty was known for lots and lots of incest, so perhaps not as many Greeks as one might think.
wenturi
So much wrong....
LoudAngryJerk
no offense but without sources these are just pictures
cousteau
Source: [1] Imgur
adam1111
This post is so full of bullshit. Most of these aren't even mutually exclusive.
spderweb
There actually was no apple. That was a story made much later.
Sauroctonus
Probably to either explain it to other people, or to romanticise it for publicity.
MannersMakethTheMan
Magellan is given credit for a previous voyage to the east Indies, so in 1522 when he died in the same Indies Magellan circumnavigated
Overcucumbered
Myth - I have not eaten dinner. Reality - I had an apple for breakfast. The seconds does not exclude the first.
Vespy
These are stupid, focusing only on one particular aspect. The reality doesn't even contradict the myth in most of these.
classicwinger
The Cleopatra one would be like saying "MYTH: Obama is American. REALITY: Obama has Kenyan ancestry."
TerraDactyl89
Oh no the "birthers" are back D:
capysmom
Cleopatra was a Ptolemy. They were Greeks that invaded Egypt. Google it.
PeaceWalker47
Show us your birth certificate Cleopatra
OSCgal
Or "MYTH: Queen Elizabeth II is British. REALITY: Queen Elizabeth II has German ancestry." Happens a lot, especially with dynasties.
AlkeneThiol
Darling: "I'm as English as Queen Victoria!" Blackadder: "So your father's German, you're half German and you married a German."
AngryArmour
She was a direct descendant of a Greek general who helped conquer Egypt with Alexander the Great, and established a Hellenistic ruling elite
Karilyn
Yeah but her mother was like, full blooded Egyptian. At most you can say she had mixed ancestry, not that she WAS Greek.
Sauroctonus
Well, she wasn't Greek. She was Macedonian.
AngryArmour
It's a lot closer to saying "MYTH: Richard the Lionheart was English. REALITY: His first 3 languages were different dialects of French, he
qoppaphi
Except the "MYTH" part says she was from Egypt ... and she was, in fact, born and raised in Egypt.
AngryArmour
was a direct descendant of Guillaume le Batard with a lot of French Noble blood."
chimchimeneychimchimeneychimchimcharoo
Magellan had previously travelled to Malacca before returning to Portugal. During his more popular voyage he died in the Philippines.
chimchimeneychimchimeneychimchimcharoo
So he came very, very close to circumnavigating the earth.
cousteau
1.70 *with the hat*, duh.
manovsteele
Cleopatra was born closer to the current day than the construction of the pyramids!
bananastandcheddah
Try saying that in 500 years
reallifenerd
Mickey Mouse was first drawn by Disney after Oswald was taken from him by former coworkers. Mickey was then animated later on by Ub Iwerks
Mikeybeeee07
Can confirm; OP has no idea.
RichT93
It's true....I get by most days on a wim and a pray
SluttyBreadsticks
the napoleon one is right, the rest seem very wrong.
ICantThinkOfABetterUsername
Well he is shorter than average for a french man. Only the word very is wrong. Average beeing 1.75m in france according to wikipedia.
classicwinger
A lot of these aren't "myth". Einstein was an underacheiver OVERALL but excelled in science. Cleopatra WAS from Egypt, with Greek ancestry.
Dsmizz
The Napoleon one is true. He was never touchy about his height. It was another "dimension" that he was insecure about. Apparently he was 2''
idontcheckmynotifications
Cleopatra's situation isn't either/or. She was Egyptian and Greek.
cousteau
She had double nationality?
loseit7000
Nationality didn't exist in the same way even 200 years ago, forget 2000 years ago
cousteau
But I mean, what did her passport say?
loseit7000
Queen of Bees
CatSnakePlissken
Yeah. Her dynasty had ruled there for 300 years, firmly rooted there. My family's been in the US as long, I'd call myself American still.
Brodyisbeast101
Van Gogh didn't cut off his ear. He and a friend were fencing and his friend cut it off, he later claimed he cut it off so his friend would
Brodyisbeast101
Not be punished for it.
flamingflamingo
But then he gave the severed piece to a prostitute.
Brodyisbeast101
Like a gentleman.
eykompis
'M'lady, have mineth ear or I shall be forever offended'
ProfessorDumbass
All those years at uni wasted....I could have got all the facts here
celestedrake
Username checks out
Hotbeebop
I read that then the name ahahahahahahahha
imakesoft
All you need in life is Imgur university.
cutieerica
Valedictorian
SkillerPenguin
gotten
Makethesunshine
both are correct.
ClemantTheGymLeader
1337 upvotes? HAX!
Broccoly
That feel when u upvote 999 upvoted comment today must be my lucky day
UnderTheRedHoodJT
1000th up vote
ProfessorDumbass
I thank you for your contribution
willgameforgold
Unless your degree was on myth busting trivia then I think you're OK.
ProfessorDumbass
Damn, I majored in myth busting trivia with a minor in 19th century french poetry. Why can't I get a job?
newsguycraigevans
Welcome to Imgur!
TheTruestRepairman
And then you would have been living up to your name
Kj24
j3sus0fsuburbia
http://imgur.com/C8JAkWM
delafonte89
Where'd you find this?
j3sus0fsuburbia
TeddyBearLord
AnActualTsundere
..jimmy?
TheTruestRepairman
Jimmy Russell
SlowLightning
G-Gotta blast?
theendofallthings
'Discovered' gravity, good lord. Uneducated swines.
SirAlbertNewton
Educate me
OnceYouPopYouCantStop
Well, he didn't invent it.
theendofallthings
...Obviously.
flamingflamingo
He didn't discover it either. But he was the first to really document it in detail.
OnceYouPopYouCantStop
Well if you want to be technically douchey, I suppose the first thinking (as opposed to instinctual) being, was the first.
flamingflamingo
Science in general has been less about discovering that things do things, and more understanding WHY things do things. It's more about >
flamingflamingo
> creating a structured explanation of our surroundings, which have always been consistent. So to me it's an important distinction.
OnceYouPopYouCantStop
So by that you should definitely be championing Newton.
Dunes8
Magellan on is right. His crew covered the rest of the journey.
Unquote
I love how his arrogance got him killed. Oh look at these primitive tribes, imma fuck m up. Aaaand he's dead.
ProfessorDumbass
King Lapu Lapu, I bring you primitive people...RELIGION. Yo Magellan..check out this primitive spear. Found Philippines...dead in 3 days
JadawinUK
There so much wrong in the Reality part. Edison's staff did the inventions, Cleopatra was from Egypt AND hat greek ancestry etc
NegentropyX
Cleopatra was the result of six generations of brother-sister marriages - to keep the bloodline pure and godlike.
Dutcher
The Newton part wasn't true either. It was used as an example in a book to convey this to the masses. A book he didn't even write (1/2)
Dutcher
(2/2) Note that Newton did write a work stating tall the laws and the likes. Just never mentioned an apple.
henrycavill1234
Who wrote that book???
Dutcher
Don't know, I just know that the apple was not mentioned in Newtons works and that someone else used it to convey Newtons insights.
FlareonTheFalseProphet
was gonna say that, being from egypt and having greek ancestors are not mutually exclusive
AwkwardBiblophile
Edison did sucessfully invent the first long lasting filament for the lightbulb
retrohellix
HAT GREEK ANCESTRY CORRRAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!
JadawinUK
I know someone would spot the typo ^^ You can keep the hat.
retrohellix
Thanks, m'friend
Thethingfromtheshadows
Cleopatra's descendants had been in Egypt for about 300 years so very wrong calling it a myth
Ninjinister
I believe you mean ancestors.
Thethingfromtheshadows
Sorry, your right
MXMtcheuVI
Well, She sure had greek or rather macedonian ancestry. About the Egypt part you could argue.
Spongybunny
By that logic, it's arguable that people living in the USA aren't American. Her family was there for 300 years, so that's Egyptian to me.
MXMtcheuVI
Well there the part of Native Egyptian/American kicks in, so yeah depends on your opinion/view I did say.
Spongybunny
I guess that's true. I just assumed that being born in a country would let someone claim that nationality by default the way we do now.
MXMtcheuVI
And for back in those days there was a huge difference between the Hellenized elite and the normal population.
accidentalfritata
She was pure macedonian, but acted like Egyptian, first Ptolemaic ruler to learn the local language
JadawinUK
And the last.
accidentalfritata
Noice
IHaveAPhrasalUserNameLikeThisOneCauseTheyAlwaysGetTheTopComment
The newton apple story isn't true either. He just made that shit up so he wouldn't have to explain his actual methods to people.
IrishSpectre
Cleopatra was a descendant of Ptolemy, who took over Egypt after the death of Alexander the Great. So yeah, she's both Egyptian and Greek.
DatToni
Except Ptolemy wasn't "Greek" as "Greek" didn't exist. He was a hellenized Macedonian. Most "Greeks" would have called him a barbarian.
GenitalSherman
Ptolemy more!
chrono87
The acient Greeks only considered the argead dynasty to be greek. The people of Macedonia weren't considered hellenes. So depending on 1/?
chrono87
Whether or not he was actually related to Alexander the great in some way, technically he might not have been considered a Greek either. 2/3
chrono87
I am sure his family claimed to be descended from heracles as well though but I seriously doubt demosthenes would have believed it
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Ptolemy Soter was Macedonian. That said, what it meant to be a Hellene did kind of transform after Philip and Alexander, while technically1
sailingbirdie
TIL your family being rulers of Egypt for close to 300 years still means you're kinda Greek...
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
In terms of ancestry, the Ptolemy's didn't really intermarry with the Egyptian populace and saw themselves as Hellenistic, that said they 1
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
2: did eventually take up a lot of Egyptian customs, including the incestuous royal marriages which only further kept their lineage Greek.
totalwiener
According to my white friends, they still count as "German-Swiss-Irish-native American". And they LOVE to brag.
itsbre
Yeah that's not just white people. My Indian friends that have been here for 4 gen still say India is "back home". Black friends that 1/
itsbre
2/ came here 3 gen back still say they're from Jamaica. I say I'm from Canada, but it's always people of other races that ask me "yeah but
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
The bloodline was - that's the point being made here.
Caffynated
Especially with the inbreeding to keep the bloodline Greek.
sailingbirdie
And my point is that wherever your ancestors were from, with that timescale people's definition of what is native is downright weird.
Thomas633
Her family tree... isn't exactly a binary graph. They married cousins a lot, her first husband was one I believe.
JadawinUK
And she was culturally very egyptian, maybe just for political reasons (like identifying with Isis etc.)
SwarmLord
[obligatory joke about Daesh]
JadawinUK
IrishSpectre
Makes sense, esp. if she didn't have much Egyptian ancestry, showing devotion to the culture would probably solidify her position.
Steevetheperson
Since Alexander the Great was proclaimed the son of Ammon at the temple where the Oracle of Ammon resided. Alexander brought Ptolmey ...
Steevetheperson
with him within the temple and proclaimed him his brother. Ptolemy was also considered divine, giving him and his ancestors right to rule..
Sickofnotliving
Listen to Dan Carlin talk about the Ptolemaic dynasty. Good times.
IrishSpectre
Duly noted, I'll give him a listen after work
gamesthatiplay
I thought Edison just stole the inventions when he worked at the patent office.
HanSolo312
Yeah the Cleopatra thing is why Irish people get annoyed at American on St. Paddy's day. I might have irish ancestors but I'm american.
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
Right? I have Irish ancestry but I'm from America...
SickRanchez
Salieri was both of higher status than Mozart and incredibly jealous of him from what I've gathered
noooothingsdfsdfsdf
So many people saying he wasn't jealous. These people mistake 'jealous' for 'envious'. Saliere was Jealous at mozart, not Envious.
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Meanwhile I'm sitting here like who the fuck is Solieri
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
He was the head conductor for the Austrian royal court when Mozart started his artistic rise. Took Mozart under his wing, so to speak.
AwkwardBiblophile
They were professional rivals but had a cordial relationship and respected each others skills.
DanteLidge
Yes, Amadeus (the movie) can't be wrong...right?
RadioactiveCanuck
Actually, the movie was accurate, especially when you consider the fact it's supposed to have been narrated by Antonio in his 1/2
RadioactiveCanuck
Advanced age when his mind was deteriorating, but he did claim he killed Mozart and Someone did commission Mozart to write a piece 2/3
RadioactiveCanuck
That they could pass off as their own. 3/3
DanteLidge
Cool, so one of my favorite movies in the world is accurate?
NineByNine
well jealousy is fearing someone will take what you have, so... yes. plausable he was jealous. if he was ENVIOUS well.... that's different.
override367
There's a youtube video about the historical problems with amadeus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X_iAGFaE80
mediaman73
Nostalgia Critic episode on the subject. https://youtu.be/kD4U6NUN_JQ
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
He was jealous in a mentorship sort of way. Salieri recognized Mozarts talents before anyone else did and tried to help him along.
JohnFloorwalker
*Envious
whiskyinajar
But it wasn't him laughing...t'was God!
davhcol
DIIIIIEEEEESSSS IRAE DIEEESSSS ILLA!!!
BetYouCantHitMeWithaQuarter
One of the best movies imho
Nigbac
What movie?
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CitizenDickbag
There is literally no valid reason to believe this. Salieri and Mozart were friends.
Rexjames
The beginnings of death metal.
Tryingtoohardtobecool
I'm not sure what music history courses you're taking but that theory has been largely discredited. His symptoms did not match a poisoning.
lottiedoowop
I saw an article about a year ago that said Mozart's symptoms/death were likely a result of streptococcus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tryingtoohardtobecool
Strep, rheumatic fever, sub dermal hematoma, vitamin D deficiency...one of those. Haha
lottiedoowop
We may never know, sadly. Imagine how much he could've accomplished if he had lived longer. So sad.
MWS1
He did however claim that he killed Mozart. If thats true or just his insane ramblings is still undecided if I recall correctly
CitizenDickbag
No he didn't. That's fiction invented for the stage.
RomeoSniper
Really good History Buffs episode on the subject: https://youtu.be/_X_iAGFaE80
crossingmyfingers
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themanforhisplaceandtime
Dot.
xeno426
YES! At worst, they competed professionally, but it's unlikely they hated each other. Evidence points to them being quite cordial.
AttentionDeficitOohShiny
I've heard they were friends; Salieri was entrusted with teaching Mozart's son.
lsteamer
You can be friends and rivals. Admiration, respect and a bit of "Schadenfreude". Akin to Jobs and Gates.
lsteamer
Schadenfreude - pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.
NateintheNorth
Like a Goku-Piccolo relationship
Mack1986
.. wtf is that?
didntshootthedeputy
It's from an anime called dragon ball. Piccolo and Goku are sort of enemies but Piccolo later befriends Goku's son Gohan and teaches him.
SumoSGazer
NEERRRRD
NateintheNorth
Believe.
TheDarkLordOfTrees
Like "Go on kid, you beautiful disaster"
DiabloD3
DODGE!
CitizenDickbag
No. The jealousy story is fiction invented much later. They were friends and even collaborated on a few pieces together.
diehardlance
I've collaborated on a few pieces with my friends too ;)
TigerswilldoANYTHINGforatunafishsandwich
People can be friends and work together but still have some insane professional jealously between them.
Skelletalmellons
a complicated multifaceted set of people, imagine that.
Blud4BludGod
Chef here, god that is true. I've been on both ends of that with people that I like and respect to this day
SteveBinCypressTexas
The Napoleon is kind of a funny story. In French inches he was like 5' 1" something but in British inches he was 5'7". Average height then
bandicootsnoochieboochies
I saw one of his military uniforms in a museum once. It was quite small. I have no doubt he was short.
retunedspider287
The average height was shorter back then so you have to account for that but I've heard both that he was short and that he was aberafe
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
The difference between the heights of the two countries is because France gave up their ruler.
angelus6
Also he wasn't considered short. He was the average height for a frenchmen in his time. He'd be considered short now in modern times.
CookieMonstersCrumbs
Had to look it up, because american.. >.< 1.7meters is 5ft 5in, which is just an inch taller than I am!
WildBluntHickok
1.85 meters is 6 feet
CookieMonstersCrumbs
You're not wrong,![]()
Dunno why I was downvoted,
Radix865
Well, with a hat like that accounted, no wonder he was that tall!
retunedspider287
I did a report on him and I read on several different sources that he was actually 5'7" and 1/
chekhonte
I don't know if it's true but I read that because he was exiled rather than executed humiliating rumors were spread about him to weaken >>
WildBluntHickok
Same deal with that queen who supposedly died fucking a horse. And Vlad the Impaler
chekhonte
public perception about him.
retunedspider287
The exact words "but that's still pretty short". Thing is I'm 5'7" so it was kinda painful to read
AreYouGonnaBuySomethingNoImJustDancingToTheHumOfYourFridge
Keep in mind that this was also a time when your average human was 10cm/5inchish shorter than now
retunedspider287
I know so good for Napoleon but still feels bad man
SluttyBreadsticks
at the time it was average height
retunedspider287
So good for Napoleon but still feels bad man
PressthamGravey
Where are my testicles, Summer?
theyar
We are not them.
MidiMidori
I done seent it too!
slam123
Snuffles was my slave name. You shall now call me Snowball, because my fur is pretty and white.
curiousfoolish
They should have let him fix Jerry.
3rdweal
You think you can control me with a haircut?
Ansatsunin
Hell yes. Rick could've fixed him afterwards easily, seeing as how he's a mad scientist with godly powers.
JacaByte
But he wouldn't because he wants Jerry to stop fucking his daughter
Nubum
Because of all the things Rick wants to do with his time, he wants to fondle Jerry's balls.
Ansatsunin
Come the hell on. With his insano inventions and science magic, he would probably have some goop he could drop on there to grow em back, 1/?
Ansatsunin
or some nanobots to rebuild them, or some regeneration chamber / fluid vat.
KnightsOfShame
Einstein was an underachiever. He was a genius and only did very well in one subject. That's underachieving for a genius.
Onlyifyouwantto
Nah he was still pretty decent in other subjects too. Like Bs and shit you know man.
Onlyifyouwantto
But like science he fucked shit up in like hard fucking.
flamingflamingo
This. I really struggled in highschool but did very well in biology.
MetaphoricalFox
If you check this post, none of these are mutually exclusive.
goodiecornbread
Isn't he presumed to have been on the spectrum?
EmuMoogle
As someone on the autism spectrum, I'd rather people concentrate on the geniuses that are *alive* and on the spectrum.
Splodgey
Huh? Why?
EmuMoogle
Because trying to diagnose a dead man is both in poor taste and complete speculation.
thecuteocalypseishere
He did have a language delay, iirc, speaking late (3-4 y/o) and having to mutter sentences before speaking them for a few years after.
SentOS
Where was he an underachiever? His grades in school were excellent. The only subject he might had trouble with was sports
KnightsOfShame
Also, its not a myth that Cleopatra was from Egypt. She was from Egypt. Born and lived most of her life there. Hows that not from Egypt?
AngryArmour
Because she was the scion of a Hellenic royal family dedicated to spreading the superior Hellenic culture to barbarians through conquest?
tubbers06
True. But her ancestry is exclusively Greek (one of Alexander's generals, ptolomy) and most of her family refused to learn egyptian
EmuMoogle
Yet she was born in Egypt and was therefore Egyptian. Both the "myth" and "reality" are true.
itsbre
Not exclusively. Her mother was Egyptian 100%
RytEkis
Most of these are only partially true but Napoleon WAS average height for the time.
OverlyCynicalImgurian
Slightly above average for a French man, actually, right?
RytEkis
It's just that humans keep growing taller, you only have to look at turn of the century architecture to get an idea of how big we're getting
Derwos
The myth is that he was at any point bad at math in school. Complete bs
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Derwos
iirc there's a direct quote from him that said "I never failed at math"
mordaedil
He scored badly because he didn't explain his equations.
JlHADJOE
He actually was. He hated the rigid computational math, and wanted to focus mostly on his thought experiments. Because of this he had a 1/2
JlHADJOE
falling out with his teacher, Herman Minkowsky. Later on, Minkowsky would be the one to prove that Einstein's Special Relativity could 2/3
JlHADJOE
be expressed and understood geometrically as a four-dimensional space-time. 3/3
SirAlbertNewton
I heard he mastered differential and integral calculus at the age of 15. that's neat.
thecuteocalypseishere
Did a math program that tried to teach calculus at 12. It was confusing as hell and I had to relearn the basic concepts at 15. >.>
SexySanders
*cries*
Sebh1414
don't we all? i recently heard teachers want to start teaching calculus in elementary schools..
SirAlbertNewton
Let's not brag here. You know we don't. We might have done derivations and integrations on "simple" functions. No meaning behind it.
Sebh1414
(2) taught or explained to younger kids because it is a fundamental logic lesson to better understand how most things really work
Sebh1414
(1) sorry you're right, i didn't mean to teach complex calculus but it has been discussed that the concept of calculus should be
SirAlbertNewton
Teaching calculus in elementary is ridiculous. You should be learning calculus if that's what you want to learn. Kids are not robots.