Legendary Disney animator John Ripa found and posted a long lost pencil test from the very first draft of "Tangled", featuring JACK BLACK in the part of Flynn Ryder

May 21, 2026 1:21 AM

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He found a xerox of this in an old box of his Disney stuff, and then scanned it himself to put it back together. This pencil test is some of the last 2d animation he did for Disney.

Originally called "Rapunzel Unbraided" at his point in production, Glen Keane had been considering Black as voice for the male lead character (that evolved into Flynn/Eugene).

So Ripa used dialogue of Jack Black's from the HBO "Tenacious D" TV series to test with. Just like when they got Tom Hanks to play Woody in "Toy Story" by using dialogue of his from "Turner and Hooch".

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Holy shit, this is awesome to see

2 months ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Isnt this the one where they meet Sasquatch? Man, that show is a very deep well of inspirado.

2 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The originally wanted a sorta goofy guy to be the male hero in Tangled. The guy they ended up putting in Frozen was originality an idea for Tangled.

2 months ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Zippity doo dah reference one hell of a bold ass choice...

2 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

God, I WOULD prefer Jack Black! 😆

2 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Considering how Zachary Levi has aged like milk

2 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

350+ frames for 15 seconds. Damn

2 months ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

I mean, most animated movies run at like 30-40fps, and they are around 2hrs. You do the math. There is a reason hand drawn animation is so expensive

2 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

I know im just impressed with the sheer volume

2 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

24 frames per second. Usually on "2s" (western animation - most drawings held for 2 frames. 12 drawings per aecond. Occasional "1s" for fast movements or camera moves). Around an average of 16 drawings per second. There is often a 'translation' when it makes it to theatre to 29.9 frps in post, but that's a whole other mathematic confusion! ( - sorry, animation nerd here... It's instinctual)

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Sassy Horse gotta be one of the best animated movie archetypes of all time.

2 months ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

As much as I like Jack Black, his personality is so strong that it shines through the people he act as. Sometimes that is a good thing, but not every story benefits from that kind of energy.

2 months ago | Likes 142 Dislikes 0

Less actors than entertainers, but still definitely entertaining for sure. Like a voice actor who only does one voice, but does it very well. They ARE still acting though, pretending to be in whatever situation they're in, but it's less about the nuances of the character than it is with other actors.

2 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Patrick Warburton

2 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think Jack Black and Nicholas Cage have that in common. I'm sure we could make a list.

2 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Typecasting is pretty common in modern movies as it was older ones. I mean, how often does Sam Jackson play himself in movies?

2 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nicholas Cage as Spiderman Noir was good for animated version. Excited to see him in the live action series version soon.

2 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Still, it'd be fascinating to have a Disney male romantic lead in a princess movie be someone fat.

2 months ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

This screen test worked for me. Make it happen!

2 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm very much a "animated media should cast actual voice actors." Just watched the Mario Galaxy movie and literally every voice just sounded like the person doing the role. Nobody tried to do the already established voices of any of the characters. Bowser is just Jack Black. Like, his regular ass voice.

2 months ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 0

Same with Charlie Day as Luigi. It works, but it's literally just his normal voice. Say what you will, but at least Chris Pratt is trying a Brooklyn accent.

2 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Some screen actors can voice act too, but it takes a good director. But then again, some screen actors very much can Not voice act....

2 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah they are fun movies to *watch but they don't *sound like Mario movies. I get that the original voices would be a lot for a full length movie but give some amount of fan service. Even a small sound bite would've been satisfying.

2 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Actors are actors, tbf. Tons of them have plenty of overlap and do both. A ton of voice-actors also do live-action work. David Tennant is one of my fave voice actors by playing the villain in Ark (the game; the series version is exceedingly poorly written). He's fantastic at voice disguise, and it's further modulated. If you want to hear *fantastic* voice-acting, his closing scene in the finale of Genesis 2 is heartwrenching. Keith David and Simon Templeman are also phenomenal VAs who have done-

2 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

live roles. Rene Auberjonois too. I mean, I could go on, but it's weird to think they don't have a *huge* overlap.

2 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I actually spoke about it in my review. Most egregious was to put Benny Safdie as Bowser Jr interacting with Kamek... voiced by Motherfucking Michael Richardson, who is a BEAST in voice acting. The levels of disparity were insane. If you don't know who Richardson is, he voiced...

2 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Donglover did a fantastic job as Yoshi though

2 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Why are you calling him.... OOOH!

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