Last No Kings Protest was in March. For a notion so reportedly pissed off, we sure don't act like it. But please. By all means let's keep sitting back and bitching about it on Social Media.
Be careful, that kinda talk might get you labeled a "Left-Wing Terrorist". steve miller is tired of our shit and says he gonna start coming after left wing terrorists. Better think twice before you say anything naughty about the current government.
The irony of all this is that only a very small number of people would have to die to improve life on Earth now and for generations to come. (Or to meke it less shitty than it will be by keeping this route, since they already did a lot of irreparable damage.)
A general strike needs organization and logistics at a scale not currently available. As bad as this shit is and as angry as I am about it, not enough other people care to make a strike successful.
yeah that would be great. they won't do it tho, too inconvenient, the best they can do is a day, where they'll be careful to not hinder anything or anyone for a couple hours.
Not sure why you got downvoted. After murdering multiple people, ICE slept soundly in their tax payer hotel rooms recovering from just having jerked off to the thought of murdering more citizens and the best Americans did was yell outside the hotel at a brick wall. Anytime you mention doing more than their government approved weekend bbq, all of a sudden "be the change you wanna see!" A.k.a "why won't someone lone wolf for me while I get Starbucks?!"
Literally had this discussion with my psychiatrist last week. Am already on antidepressants/anti anxiety medication but I also feel like the anxiety/depression I'm experiencing is an appropriate response to the current state of things.
A general strike only seems feasible if there is clear, achievable goal that most of the country's citizens can agree on being the most important issue at a given moment. Unfortunately, I don't think we're there yet. Things will need to get worse in specific ways first.
We're closer than it seems. General Strikes don't require a particularly large percentage of the population. 5-10% would be more than enough, and it goes without saying that we have those numbers. The tricky bit is organization and sustained solidarity, but it is 100% feasible.
Sadly, there's a large portion of the country that's fine with things getting worse for everyone (including them) as long as it happens moreso to whatever outgroup they don't like. Nevermind that they've also been trained to vote against their own interests (socialized healthcare, taxing the rich, funding for education) for generations and seem perfectly content to continue to do so.
A general strike only seems feasible when everyone isn’t living paycheck to paycheck and fighting for their lives just to live :(. They stop working, they starve and the government and the billionaires won’t give AF because they have plenty of money :(
The most important issue is to eat the rich. Most the problem will work themselves out after that. I’d venture to say 95% of the world’s problems stem from the greed of the ultra wealthy.
Unfortunately, many MANY individuals are not afforded the right to protest under certain regulations. Such as air cargo transportation and rail road employees. Federally illegal to participate in a general strike. Like, no stop, straight to jail type regulations.
I am all for striking. However, many of the most influential positions that would push a strike forward are held to a different standard.
Example - FedEx / UPS are FEDERALLY not allowed to strike. Railroad and Airway Act.
In addition, many states prevent healthcare workers and teachers from striking. Some it's illegal, some it's illegal except under very specific circumstances
How about a 5% wealth tax for net worth over $250 million? Let's just do that. All proceeds go to healthcare, education, housing, and climate. We can all agree on that.
On top of that there also needs to be a clear plan to ensure people aren't fucked by striking. Imagine a month long general strike: so many people will be homeless by the next month.
Well, no, because the system doesn’t have the capacity to evict millions of people not paying rent, we saw that during covid. Lots of people would be under the threat of being homeless, few would actually be homeless. That’s the point of a strike, they can’t punish all of us
Those are the things we'd be striking for. Those countries didn't magically get those things, the workers put the capitalists over a barrel and demanded it
This is why nothing will ever change in the United States. American's don't understand that if you are going to fight for something, sacrifices will have to be made. You can't not protest because you will be slightly inconvenienced if you ever want things to improve.
And you don't understand that our laws are hypercapitalist: in Europe and Australia there are strong laws protecting people in housing, and labor laws are far stronger.
I suggest you look up the Railway Labor Act of 1926: it outlaws unions coordinating to engage in strikes, and it prevents strikes when a contract is in effect.
They passed this because of how the last general strike fucked things up for the cappies.
We’re not talking about “inconveniences,” we’re talking about not being able to get food/keep shelter, healthcare *just because we’re not working during a strike*. Our entire system is based on keeping people working but also working g to the point that that’s all they can do.
EverNotRelevant
What's that quote about fixing political problems? "If your solution is 'if everyone would just' then you don't have a solution"
300Hectares1TankofKerosene
We can’t even get people to agree that the earth is round. A general strike will never happen. A civil war is far more likely.
Jagshusband
Well pretty soon you won’t need to clock in.
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Az663
For mining stuff needed in centers, fair enough?
TheSaucyBaconator
Last No Kings Protest was in March. For a notion so reportedly pissed off, we sure don't act like it. But please. By all means let's keep sitting back and bitching about it on Social Media.
3HourShower
Be careful, that kinda talk might get you labeled a "Left-Wing Terrorist". steve miller is tired of our shit and says he gonna start coming after left wing terrorists. Better think twice before you say anything naughty about the current government.
AnOceanOfStars
The irony of all this is that only a very small number of people would have to die to improve life on Earth now and for generations to come.
(Or to meke it less shitty than it will be by keeping this route, since they already did a lot of irreparable damage.)
ka1iban
They would need to die, their wealth redistributed, and their positions abolished to accomplish that
YouCanCallMeAnything
A general strike needs organization and logistics at a scale not currently available. As bad as this shit is and as angry as I am about it, not enough other people care to make a strike successful.
thisuserisafk
We dont have the guts.
AMoldyStump
Americans are too cowardly and weak-willed to ever do a general strike. Prove me wrong
Firestar002
Here’s another problem: we’re TOO SPREAD OUT. We need to strike everywhere all at once.
Or at very least figure out how to block highways.
southflhitnrun
Complete work stoppage until he is removed from office.
BuckRavers
This is the perfect statement right now.
TheLastSpaceman
If you schedule your protest, get permits, do it in designated areas then surely it will work...i mean it with the fattest fucking /S possible
Az663
And I do thank you for StreSSing it.
slopwizard
Make sure it is on the weekend so you don't disturb capitalists' profits
wejustdontknow
And make it only one day. Don't make it last until any actual change happens because it's impossible to ignore.
Cranbananarama
A whole day? That's a long time...
extraDimensionalAnxiety
From the thumbnail I thought that was Jenna Marbles.
RonMimnaugh
A general strike would also allow us more time to rake our forests so we don't end up on fire like some folks /s
InfocalypseRising
People are still too brainwashed. "If you don't work you are a bad person" is in people's BONES.
arikelrecords2000
This was my window outside basement at noon a couple days ago
zFUBARz
Ontario?
arikelrecords2000
Yup
zFUBARz
Got me beat, but not by much. brutal out there. Today is better, and hopefully the storms help a bunch over the weekend.
arikelrecords2000
It's not a competition I want to win. Thankfully, it was a lot better today, and hopefully the rain does it even better
Madcaplaughs84
I'm in Manitoba and it was hazy but not orange. Still had to close my windows cause the smoke was messing with my eyes.
GOWood
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Andersen81
Step 2: Sit down and lick yourself while looking at your boss. Step 3: No profit.
Shoutrr
yeah that would be great. they won't do it tho, too inconvenient, the best they can do is a day, where they'll be careful to not hinder anything or anyone for a couple hours.
GoddessPurpleFrost
Not sure why you got downvoted. After murdering multiple people, ICE slept soundly in their tax payer hotel rooms recovering from just having jerked off to the thought of murdering more citizens and the best Americans did was yell outside the hotel at a brick wall. Anytime you mention doing more than their government approved weekend bbq, all of a sudden "be the change you wanna see!" A.k.a "why won't someone lone wolf for me while I get Starbucks?!"
Hercules99
We need a leader. Right now no one is banning together because no one is leading the cause.
PolitiCat
It is not time for a general strike. It is time for a revolution.
phoony
spontaneous9
Try to be as specific as possible please.
Az663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye7FKc1JQe4&list=RDYe7FKc1JQe4&start_radio=1
spontaneous9
Az663
Y'know, I am a strict believer in telepathy (because it works) and therefore don't entirely buy into the very idea of being lonely, ever. :)
spontaneous9
Then I don't need to answer b/c you know what I'm thinking.
applesforjuice
Fine, a specific strike then
periwinklepanda
Literally had this discussion with my psychiatrist last week. Am already on antidepressants/anti anxiety medication but I also feel like the anxiety/depression I'm experiencing is an appropriate response to the current state of things.
Easykehl
A general strike only seems feasible if there is clear, achievable goal that most of the country's citizens can agree on being the most important issue at a given moment.
Unfortunately, I don't think we're there yet. Things will need to get worse in specific ways first.
idiotsonfire
Trump's head on a stake. That's the goal.
Zamiel77
We're closer than it seems. General Strikes don't require a particularly large percentage of the population. 5-10% would be more than enough, and it goes without saying that we have those numbers. The tricky bit is organization and sustained solidarity, but it is 100% feasible.
Isorikk
Based on last election, about 20% of the population are scabs
HandoB4Javert
nurmich
Sadly, there's a large portion of the country that's fine with things getting worse for everyone (including them) as long as it happens moreso to whatever outgroup they don't like. Nevermind that they've also been trained to vote against their own interests (socialized healthcare, taxing the rich, funding for education) for generations and seem perfectly content to continue to do so.
Comet260
MAGA is a disease.
SavageDrums
"give us the heads of your CEOs and the rest of you can live. For now."
SwiftyGuy
A general strike only seems feasible when everyone isn’t living paycheck to paycheck and fighting for their lives just to live :(. They stop working, they starve and the government and the billionaires won’t give AF because they have plenty of money :(
Mmbear
The most important issue is to eat the rich. Most the problem will work themselves out after that. I’d venture to say 95% of the world’s problems stem from the greed of the ultra wealthy.
turtleninja5
Unfortunately, many MANY individuals are not afforded the right to protest under certain regulations. Such as air cargo transportation and rail road employees. Federally illegal to participate in a general strike. Like, no stop, straight to jail type regulations.
I am all for striking. However, many of the most influential positions that would push a strike forward are held to a different standard.
Example - FedEx / UPS are FEDERALLY not allowed to strike. Railroad and Airway Act.
Sonicschilidogs
In addition, many states prevent healthcare workers and teachers from striking. Some it's illegal, some it's illegal except under very specific circumstances
draek1
We can all agree billionaires are shit
Rink257
That's why so many things are wrong right now. To decide us into groups too weak to take them on. Every day is something new.
chuckaholic
How about a 5% wealth tax for net worth over $250 million? Let's just do that. All proceeds go to healthcare, education, housing, and climate. We can all agree on that.
Easykehl
I’d love to see a 5% wealth tax on worth over $25 million.
But I’m skeptical that idea is going to galvanize enough people into risking their homes, jobs and food security to strike for.
Striking is a refuge of last resort when the status quo is too painful to accept. I doubt we’re there yet.
idiotsonfire
How about a 100% wealth tax on those over $100m.
NKato
On top of that there also needs to be a clear plan to ensure people aren't fucked by striking. Imagine a month long general strike: so many people will be homeless by the next month.
whereismymind86
Well, no, because the system doesn’t have the capacity to evict millions of people not paying rent, we saw that during covid. Lots of people would be under the threat of being homeless, few would actually be homeless. That’s the point of a strike, they can’t punish all of us
whereismymind86
Still we’d need a support structure in place for those unlucky ones who do get evicted
NKato
Personally I'd like it if all the unions went, "fuck your laws, we're striking right now".
Easykehl
That’s a great point and the thing that likely separates the US from countries that could (more easily) implement a general strike.
Without paid leave, public healthcare, or government food help, most workers cannot afford to miss work in the US.
PoorBoyChevelle
Those are the things we'd be striking for. Those countries didn't magically get those things, the workers put the capitalists over a barrel and demanded it
Nightchime
As designed
UncleMeaty
This is why nothing will ever change in the United States. American's don't understand that if you are going to fight for something, sacrifices will have to be made. You can't not protest because you will be slightly inconvenienced if you ever want things to improve.
NKato
And you don't understand that our laws are hypercapitalist: in Europe and Australia there are strong laws protecting people in housing, and labor laws are far stronger.
I suggest you look up the Railway Labor Act of 1926: it outlaws unions coordinating to engage in strikes, and it prevents strikes when a contract is in effect.
They passed this because of how the last general strike fucked things up for the cappies.
FreewindGlider
I'm sorry, do you consider losing one's home and starving/freezing to death in the streets a "slight inconvenience"?
Az663
So, strikes should include protests under certain institutions responsible for this state of being. This newfangled luxury-class slavery.
UncleMeaty
Do you really believe that will happen? I've never seen people more afraid of everything than Americans.
SwiftyGuy
We’re not talking about “inconveniences,” we’re talking about not being able to get food/keep shelter, healthcare *just because we’re not working during a strike*. Our entire system is based on keeping people working but also working g to the point that that’s all they can do.
UncleMeaty
Your entire system is based on you living in fear of your fucking masters, and you do it so well. It is why nothing will ever change.