I was dating someone with a 13 year old daughter. Some guy with a car was picking her up from school. I found where he lived, confronted the boy's father.
Isn't it wonderful she could take such drastic measures to ensure the safety of her family. Too bad everyone can't do that but I guess the rest is just not good enough to deserve saving
Yep, it's why his conviction was so complicated. He wasn't by the law guilty of any crimes of note. But he was very much guilty of every crime. He was very smart and way too good at manipulating people.
What was complicated about it. Someone rich got killed, they wanted to put him in prison, so they came up with some convoluted rational to explain it. Same as it ever was
It was complicated because he was smart about not incriminating himself. To most killers, it's more simple to charge them will the killings. His case was closer to how you go after a Mob boss than a serial killer.
The daughter may not have had a lot to say about it. It was definitely a time when women didn't have many options for themselves. I mean, they couldn't even open a bank account in the US at that time.
Women absolutely opened bank accounts in the 60's. It was legal, up to a point, for banks to discriminate on the basis of gender until the 1974 Equal Credit Opportunity Act. But a woman in the 60's who needed a checking account could just go open one.
Although you could assert that the foundations to the eventual situation were laid 700 years ago when Scotland under Robert the Bruce invaded Ireland and attempted to make his brother king. It was aimed as a strategic move against England and caused the first ever deployment of English forces to Ireland. They never left after that, the size of the presence has fluctuated but Scotland making Ireland a new theatre in the wars with England is what started it.
msaroff4
I've told my wife that if she invites Jessica Fletcher to another dinner party all divorce her.
NumptyDumptyLump
180 points for most viral..
Spidey209
And then people in Ireland started mysteriously dying.
TsubakiTragic
dodged a .50 BMG.
Hootykai
Manson was a piece of shit. MF
RenaissanceFaireMan
I was dating someone with a 13 year old daughter. Some guy with a car was picking her up from school. I found where he lived, confronted the boy's father.
BlastFX
Sounds a bit extreme. It worked, obviously, but there must have been a simpler way.
supertigerlamp
Imagine Angela Landsbury going full "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" on the Manson Family
0Steve0
I can imagine her using her typewriter to smash a head.
TreasonousCheeto
Murder, she committed
Puolitettupuolituttu
Now there's an "I told you so" to end all arguments.
miked854
IIRC she also rehabbed one of her sons by hiring him as her assistant and just keeping an eye on him for years on end.
sqeewew
Bro this poor mom
Affray
Better someone apparently excellent at parenting than some deadbeat mom who'd have two dead kids.
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
Helped her Shelter.
EdwinEastwood
woozle
4Astaroth
ItaloCanadianYUL
Murder she avoided
Currahee63
See also: Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys.
somnif
I own a copy of the album they recorded. It's honestly not awful. Bit weird of course, but better than some I've heard from the era.
Affray
Everyone curls their nose up like it isn't equally as awful as most hippie rock from the time. I know old timers who listen to worse.
Becker37
Isn't it wonderful she could take such drastic measures to ensure the safety of her family. Too bad everyone can't do that but I guess the rest is just not good enough to deserve saving
NOINITIATIVE
wasn't till I read "Mindhunter" that I found out he technically didn't murder anyone (that we know of.)
Targe0
Yep, it's why his conviction was so complicated. He wasn't by the law guilty of any crimes of note. But he was very much guilty of every crime. He was very smart and way too good at manipulating people.
skincancerisfun
What was complicated about it. Someone rich got killed, they wanted to put him in prison, so they came up with some convoluted rational to explain it. Same as it ever was
Targe0
It was complicated because he was smart about not incriminating himself. To most killers, it's more simple to charge them will the killings. His case was closer to how you go after a Mob boss than a serial killer.
Fentex
I like the theory it was all about covering up for another crime.
Targe0
Well, the important thing is they did get him in the end.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Murder, she predicted.
ThreeDimesDown
Copaceiculapte
Can someone please give some context? I wish to appreciate the comments
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
She starred in a series called "Murder, she wrote."
graehall
Gods damn, that's clever
umbrellamaker
Brilliant, you magnificent bastard
Larktonguesinadicecup
Impeccable.
PTKrieg
Bullet, she dodged.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Conflict, she foresaw.
duktayp
True https://www.snopes.com/articles/468655/angela-lansbury-move-to-ireland-manson/
NorrinxRadd
Holy shit, good on her, and good on you with the proof.
4Astaroth
Good that the daughter wasn't like "No he loves me and I want to stay."
Isthe4thtimethecharm
The daughter may not have had a lot to say about it. It was definitely a time when women didn't have many options for themselves. I mean, they couldn't even open a bank account in the US at that time.
AgainstMethod
Women absolutely opened bank accounts in the 60's. It was legal, up to a point, for banks to discriminate on the basis of gender until the 1974 Equal Credit Opportunity Act. But a woman in the 60's who needed a checking account could just go open one.
3rdoption
That's not him, is it?
EdwinEastwood
No, it's probably one of her 2 sons
Larktonguesinadicecup
Tony Iommi.
whoisyourdaddy
NO. That's her son. The story is true though, and well documented. But that's a picture of Angela with her son and her daughter.
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blahblahbushes
You could say the same for the entire planet.
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blahblahbushes
At least it has trees.
Targe0
They deleted their posts, what did they say?
blahblahbushes
That their mother said Ireland was a rock covered in grass and nothing else.
quade
And then, the Troubles began.
KaratheStorm
VicinoOrsini
As the prophecy foretold
dusty410
Leithoa
They began a couple hundred years ago...
FrancsTireur
500 years ago.
Although you could assert that the foundations to the eventual situation were laid 700 years ago when Scotland under Robert the Bruce invaded Ireland and attempted to make his brother king. It was aimed as a strategic move against England and caused the first ever deployment of English forces to Ireland. They never left after that, the size of the presence has fluctuated but Scotland making Ireland a new theatre in the wars with England is what started it.
headlessness
The troubles never really affected County Cork.
BoblovesMac31415101
Correlation does not indicate causation.
ShitsNGiggelz
100% True. But it’s a good place to start looking.
nutmegonyourdoodle
HellCartoonDog
For one, the food was terrible
headlessness
quade
Lack of potates would piss me off, too
Targe0
It was the abundance of English potatoes that was at issue. /s
InfocalypseRising
She was also in the movie Gaslight, from whence the term "gaslighting" comes.
blahblahbushes
somnif
Vincent Price was in the original stage play the movie was based on.
Snooj
I'm not going to believe any of the replies to this comment.
somnif
Icedtorch
the one about lighting up your farts?
gnomedeplume
nobody else has made the joke about that not being where the word comes from before I got to, you're imagining things
Larktonguesinadicecup
No, she wasn't. You always mix that kind of thing up, remember?
kevbot5000
Everyone knows Cathleen Cordell played the maid in that flick.
Targe0
No, she didn't, that movie never got made.
SnailsAgainstTungstenSpheres
Wtf are you guys upvoting this for? That's not even a real movie.
Hammertulski
Upvoting? I don’t see any of that, you’re looking at the wrong comment.
Targe0
What comment, you posted this on nothing.