It is a fantasy series with focus on powerstruggles between compelling characters, realms and organizations, that does not shy from violence, sex or profanities, and where fantastical elements has a small though growing role. I trust you can tell if that sounds like something for you; for long it was one of the most popular shows out there. Yet to be wholly honest I note the public found the last few seasons fell in writing quality, and the last left most - though not all - unsatisfied.
To my recollection the writing dipped because the creators were (a) free-styling it because they were ahead of George RR Martin (the original author of the books) and (b) because their focus shifted to a writing a new Star Wars script, which didn’t end up going anywhere.
Bronn really was the best character in the series. Always called it like he saw it. Consistent personality and motivations throughout. Consistently made smart decisions. Not a benevolent or malevolent character. Just consistently shrewd and opportunistic
hot take: I watched the entire series earlier last year for the first time and didn't like the show from the start. I also had every death spoiled by people I know or just by being on the internet. If you are in the same circumstance, the show turns into a very long, violent, incestuous, shock jock type of drivel. I'm actually surprised I made it through the whole thing. People kept telling me, oh it gets better. It really didn't. I also tried the books, which had the same issues.
I never tried the show because some people I know who managed to get through it all in the book were like they made it even more violent and rapey than the books. And I was like you know what? I'm good!
yup. Same thing happened to me. The Witcher novels were recommended to me. I've played the games and by that time I had seen the first couple seasons of the Netflix show. To say I was surprised at how violent and rapey the books were would be an understatement. By the end of the series, every single female character was either murdered, tortured, maimed, disfigured by a man, and/or raped repeatedly (and I do mean ALL of the female characters).
In the books, Martin front loads his exposition. I don't need 3 paragraphs of family backstory and descriptions of the clothing the characters wear each time a new character is introduced.
He needs to cut the fat and remember Chekov's gun. The theme here is: if it's not relevant, take it out. Otherwise you'll wind up with a big book that says absolutely fuck all about anything.
I love the unintended ambivalence of two of the swords names in combination with German.
Joffrey's first sword he named lions tooth. In the german translation "Löwenzahn". Wich is not just the fierce lions tooth, but also the very much unfierce dandellion.
Stannis's sword is called Lightbringer. Which sounds basically exactly the same (just the r is different) as Leidbringer, which would mean "bringer of suffering".
I think that unintentionally reflects perfectly on what the names intend >
The Lightbringer/Morning Star is the Planet Venus when it is visible for 263 days preceding the dawning of the sun, then for 263 days it is the Evening Star where it follows the sunset.
And while it is a term that is linked in the bible to Lucifer, it is also linked to Jesus, Rev 22:16. Just like how Satan is a title (adversary/opponent/accuser), Lucifer/Lightbringer/Morning Star is, too.
ToSisPoS
Yarp
bitemark
GravyEducation
Behold my stuff
RPCharImages
I am beholding....Disrepecfully
GravyEducation
GravyEducation
fuck you Ngugi, you're the worst shit in the seven kingdoms
Ngugi
And beyond the Wall!
GravyEducation
You know what Googs you're more a Barristan Selmy and that's like the highest compliment.
Ngugi
GravyEducation
You don't fuck with two people in hallways, Daredevil and Ser Selmy that dude made the very best of a bad situation
HandoB4Javert
what's this from?
Ngugi
Game of Thrones
HandoB4Javert
Thanks. Is it worth watching?
Ngugi
It is a fantasy series with focus on powerstruggles between compelling characters, realms and organizations, that does not shy from violence, sex or profanities, and where fantastical elements has a small though growing role. I trust you can tell if that sounds like something for you; for long it was one of the most popular shows out there. Yet to be wholly honest I note the public found the last few seasons fell in writing quality, and the last left most - though not all - unsatisfied.
iMcFly
To my recollection the writing dipped because the creators were (a) free-styling it because they were ahead of George RR Martin (the original author of the books) and (b) because their focus shifted to a writing a new Star Wars script, which didn’t end up going anywhere.
Chort26
StarmineRendezvous
No cure, but plenty of solutions, if someone is willing.
TakeAChillPill16
Bronn really was the best character in the series. Always called it like he saw it. Consistent personality and motivations throughout. Consistently made smart decisions. Not a benevolent or malevolent character. Just consistently shrewd and opportunistic
TheNamesTophBeiFongSoGetMeOnThatFerry
He's also a funny lad :)
GravyEducation
Poverty will do that to you
RiotousSinner
Turns out there is one cure...
MyGreatestFearBoner
Went to a farm up state. GFSF Joffrey!
inkasep1
Go fuck San Francisco?
MyGreatestFearBoner
*Get Fucked, Stay Fucked
inkasep1
Aha!
BodyofaGodBuddha
Fun fact: She was a bond girl
akodorokku
And an Avenger.
mikeatike
phuzz00
Ah, Mrs Peel.
Ngugi
Mrs. Bond even
Booyah719
MrSatisify
Hexrowe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNeT2nzEgA
AgamemnonsMemes
"What did you name your sword?" "Cunt.."
keillrandor
But that's the scabbard's function...
middlenameconfusion
"Steve."
RElGNMAN
'Twas a cunt.
StribismiusTheWizard
Don't you try to impress me by your usage of the word "'twas".
itllquenchya
Twasn't trying to
DarthGoodguy
Twat’nt
onlymostofthetime
hot take: I watched the entire series earlier last year for the first time and didn't like the show from the start. I also had every death spoiled by people I know or just by being on the internet. If you are in the same circumstance, the show turns into a very long, violent, incestuous, shock jock type of drivel. I'm actually surprised I made it through the whole thing. People kept telling me, oh it gets better. It really didn't. I also tried the books, which had the same issues.
adiving
People kept telling you the show that is famous for crashing down in quality would get better? I suspect you've been had.
BabeAfett
Shitty people, being shitty to each other with snow zombies and dragons.
Misora
I never tried the show because some people I know who managed to get through it all in the book were like they made it even more violent and rapey than the books. And I was like you know what? I'm good!
onlymostofthetime
yup. Same thing happened to me. The Witcher novels were recommended to me. I've played the games and by that time I had seen the first couple seasons of the Netflix show.
To say I was surprised at how violent and rapey the books were would be an understatement. By the end of the series, every single female character was either murdered, tortured, maimed, disfigured by a man, and/or raped repeatedly (and I do mean ALL of the female characters).
RPCharImages
I'm sure Martin is a good writer, I just dont think he's a very good fantasy writer
onlymostofthetime
In the books, Martin front loads his exposition. I don't need 3 paragraphs of family backstory and descriptions of the clothing the characters wear each time a new character is introduced.
He needs to cut the fat and remember Chekov's gun. The theme here is: if it's not relevant, take it out. Otherwise you'll wind up with a big book that says absolutely fuck all about anything.
mercyPandaRunner
I love the unintended ambivalence of two of the swords names in combination with German.
Joffrey's first sword he named lions tooth. In the german translation "Löwenzahn". Wich is not just the fierce lions tooth, but also the very much unfierce dandellion.
Stannis's sword is called Lightbringer. Which sounds basically exactly the same (just the r is different) as Leidbringer, which would mean "bringer of suffering".
I think that unintentionally reflects perfectly on what the names intend >
JonatanFuglevaag
Idk man, dandelions will grow through concrete in a drought. That is pretty fierce.
Hemelsblauw
This.
mercyPandaRunner
to invoke vs. reality.
Quixus
Lightbringer is also the literal translation of Lucifer.
mercyPandaRunner
Also true.
Markuspsyches
The Lightbringer/Morning Star is the Planet Venus when it is visible for 263 days preceding the dawning of the sun, then for 263 days it is the Evening Star where it follows the sunset.
And while it is a term that is linked in the bible to Lucifer, it is also linked to Jesus, Rev 22:16. Just like how Satan is a title (adversary/opponent/accuser), Lucifer/Lightbringer/Morning Star is, too.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Yup, its a pretty standard fiction trope/device.
mercyPandaRunner
I don't think that was on purpose.
pyroshen
The books weren't written originally in German, so I doubt it was planned
mabbo
Dandelions = dents de lions. French for lion's teeth.
GravyEducation
Still a cunt
mercyPandaRunner
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YTFvaWx0Zzc2aGF0ZWlxdnl5MjBmbzA3aGp4MDN0YjR1bTRnZDhldCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/26ufdipQqU2lhNA4g/200w.webp
mabbo
https://m.xkcd.com/1053/ . You are one of today's lucky 10,000.
GravyEducation
If you name a sword, you fight with your trouble. Not so good, to fight with a named sword. Again
Hemelsblauw
What if it helps you to work through stuff? Then you can 'hang it in the willows' when you're healed. (Dutch expression).
DocBenny
Unless that sword is The Throngler. Ain't nobody fuck with The Throngler
GravyEducation
Ah just so
WalkingNature
What if I named my sword "my trouble", then?
GravyEducation
Then you expect trouble