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I've been reminded of this quote more and more lately!
Feb 6, 2019 5:46 PM
Khoshteep
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I've been reminded of this quote more and more lately!
SisterSpooky01
FLCLrox
Ya know technically we're all ignorant as to if this man actually said this. I mean the quote could be real but it could also be re:re:re:BS
awarriorstill
I am so jealous of Asimov's muttonchops.
BHPaperstacks
I like thos quote but i was taught never to truat someone who useses one of those turqoise indian tie buckle things.
Fenrisulv
Democracy is flawed, prone to corruption, but far the best option compared to the other alternatives.
Kigliwoth
Im thinking somekind of intellectually selected oligarchy. 20 different roles selected by different parties(not political) in the country
OfficeZomb1e
"I love the poorly educated"
YouTubeRed
FilthyPierre
+1 for Stargate SG1 and
YouTubeRed
Seriously, this is excellent. I am going to be using this in the future! XD
digitreal
Isaac Asimov, sounds Russian. Nice quote there comrade. /sarcasm
KnifeKnut
I really wish people would post the source: https://aphelis.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ASIMOV_1980_Cult_of_Ignorance.pdf
KnifeKnut
Sadly it still rings true.
SoyDelBerrinche
But, we love the poorly educated..
IamRodHull
Can I point you to exhibit a. Brexit
zombiejedediah
Exhibit b. How British politicians are handling said Brexit.
FriendlyNeighbourhoodSatan
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - EB White
in70x
Actually there is a mathematical principle based on the correctness of the majority.
Ilieoften
Which can only be explained by irrationality, since a simple majority is quasi impossible to be proven rational
RichardHanna
Doesn't matter, idiots are the ones who will vote their liberties away for a cheeseburger and a rimjob.
BolenArrow
ehhh I'd say the idiots are the ones saying corporations are at fault when they willingly drink their brains dead and spend money they>
BolenArrow
don't have.
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
Wait, what? All I got was a lousy "I voted" sticker! I could have gotten a cheeseburger and a rimjob? This is bullshit!
RonnieHubbard
Well it does. They're voting your liberties away too
KidddRockk
The usual stuff I suppose.
perlcat
My favorite quote: "An argument isn't just contradiction./Well! it CAN be!/No it can't!/An argument is a connected series of statements 1/2
perlcat
intended to establish a proposition. " 2/2
Oltruckbiker
I didn't come here to be insulted...
BholdBrett
Monty Python
GasBandit
".... No it isn't."
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
"Yes it is!"
TankardHoot
*ding-a-ling-a-ling* "Thank you. Good day!"
michaelfire
However, the unfounded faith in science and rationality, exemplified in Asimov's writing, was also ignorant and immature.
MagicTrashman
His oft-cited laws of robotics were extremely naive. He had a generally positive outlook of the human race in spite of knowing its history.
Shifuede
To the contrary. His stories highlight humankind's flaws; read the later Foundation novels to understand.
ProcolHarambe
The down side of giving everyone freedom is that you’ll be disgusted with what some people do with it.
RegRaidz
This is a fantastic quote.
Dinodude65
Democracy is three wolves and a sheep deciding on what's for lunch.
OrangeFlavours
Counter point: We've literally always been stupid fucks. Nothing has changed, nothing ever will, as it'll always be subjective.
MeowMckittyface
It’s just we get to see it, a ton of it in real time due to social media.
FlyYouFLCL
We've also been some pretty amazing fucks that have done some amazing things.
OrangeFlavours
Well yeah obviously, just people seem to think that because of that we somehow won't have tons of stupidity, but we will.
Trelkeen
This is why a Representative Republic is vastly preferred to a pure Democracy
Desertwanderer
Ironically, people will use this quote when they're guilty of what is being talked about. Or at the very least they will use a similar quote
nothingpartyslikearental
Complete quote: "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States and always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a 1/
nothingpartyslikearental
constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means 2/
nothingpartyslikearental
that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
IWannaShowYouThis
This was great, with all the comments, too. Even the ancient Greeks didn't use Pure democracy, & direct democracy is rule by propaganda.
Laylah77
Too bad he ded :(
shosty5
Spoken like a true intellectual. Horse sense is a thing, yo! Also, struggling to articulate one's ideas doesn't always infer ignorance.
eratosthenesearth
Let younger folk take my word for it: stupidity & ignorance has never been so valued. Fuck internet brain rot (except Imgur, of course).
Jabo2112
Te traveling comment from random mode. Just wait until you see 2020.
SirBlades
Lets not confuse intellectualism with pseudo-intellectualism. A lot of that going around these days.
agentarcher
Democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. - often mis-attributed
agentarcher
But true nonetheless.
AurikNecal
Representative Republic ftw. We don't have that problem yet. Sadly though the blue people are fleeing to red states to flip them.
agentarcher
If being a Rep Republic fixed this issue, then why are we over $21Trillion in debt and growing? 1/2
AurikNecal
We have the problem because the voters voted to give themselves a bunch of welfare from other american taxpayers, but It could be much worse
agentarcher
And people leaving high tax states for low tax ones, after always supporting higher taxes, is very annoying.
AurikNecal
Yup, the fuckers who want money taken from others don't want their own money taken. Dont worry though, they wont learn their lesson.
FilthyPierre
+1 for Issac. I also like. . .
lovehandlesmessiah
When the Dunning-Kruger Effect and Cognitive Dissonance get together and have a bastard child called "Fake News"
TheLegendNeverDies9
Along these same lines I believe in a quote that sadly I don't remember the original quoter that said, "Utopianism is the new barbarism."
MissivesFromTheTower
The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
MissivesFromTheTower
God damn it, I'm sure of it!
fooglephish
Fuck the truth behind this quote. It's so true it causes physical pain.
themagiciantarotcard
This always confused me, because if I think this and start to feel confident in my intelligence, then I'd have to be an idiot. Wouldn't I?
KalYahna
It's in large part your willingness to admit when you're not sure or don't know. Confidence when you *know,* not when you're bullshitting.
surprisemotherfuckers
There is the Dunning-Kruger effect where confidence dips the more you know what you don't know but rises back when you have intimate knowled
goatamon
I don't think Bertie Russell intended this to be taken as a literal descriptor that is true 100% of the time.
themagiciantarotcard
And while logically I know that's the case, my brain can't help but substitute anything metaphorical for something literal... x)
goatamon
That's understandable. I tend to just think that this is pointing to the Dunning-Kruger effect, as well as my own anecdotal observation that
goatamon
a LOT of the time, people who don't actually know much about a topic are ironclad in their view on said subject, whereas people who do know
TheLegendNeverDies9
I think the keyword to understanding this phrase is the word humility.
UnluckyScarecrow
Pretty much everything breaks down when you try to be too meta with it. Even OP's post.
UnluckyScarecrow
Ex., stock market only works if people don't know how it's moving ahead of time. If somebody gets inside knowledge the whole thing breaks
Columcille
So, what's the solution?
Khoshteep
EDUCATION for all!
Ber4nger10
Education. High quality education for everyone. Stick kids in school and don't let them out until they understand how the world works.
AurikNecal
Problem is that school's don't teach how the world works. Schools program their students to be drones and useful idiots. I remember my time
AurikNecal
in high school and college. I had to stay constantly alert to the propaganda that was being shoved down my throat to study.
Columcille
We have that. Some ideologists and some Dunning-Krugers teach our kids. Doesn't really help in _that_ problem, though.
Ber4nger10
Well obviously we don't have that, since this is how you perceive teachers to be you wouldn't call it high quality now would you?
Columcille
No. But we don't get the needed quality in education with the current ignorance of the masses. So what IS the solution?
InboxMeYourGermanShepherds
The whole curriculum would have to be reworked then. How many kids fresh out of college know anything about how the real world works?
Ber4nger10
Yes it would have to be, and should have to be reworked. Everyone should have basic scientific literacy and be able to think critically.
Columcille
These "shoulds" is exactly what we CAN'T do, because of ignorance of the masses. So this is no solution to that problem.
Ber4nger10
Education is the only solution to educate people. How else could you raise the collective level of scientific awareness?