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https://www.google.com/amp/s/gazette.com/news/crime/focus-on-the-family-sign-vandalized-police-say/article_28d46af4-6c34-11ed-b735-433811c4dccc.amp.html
Serves them right after decades of hate speech.
Most Viral Edit: thank you, kind humans, for caring about my community and helping to point a critical eye at right wing hate organizations. Send cephalopods!
Edit 2: here are some links to FotF's hateful history if you're curious.
Resources:
Human Rights Campaign
https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/10-things-you-should-know-about-focus-on-the-family
Belief it or not
https://youtu.be/ReZHpiJ1dHE
Fundy Fridays:
https://youtu.be/XYU_-8lwR6Q
Illuminaughtii: https://youtu.be/DJDuo1tqjHg
Behind The Bastards (listen before sharing)
https://omny.fm/shows/behind-the-bastards/part-one-focus-on-the-family-james-dobson
https://omny.fm/shows/behind-the-bastards/part-two-focus-on-the-family-love-won-out
DicksmackMcgee
ellivenob4272000
I AMA focus on the family/atia cult survivor and this is the least of what they deserve.*go and hit your kids for Jesus*/s
philmoregraves
mygodhasabiggerdick
Next time bring a crowbar...
samwyze
...and a lot of fire.
TresusIbor
Fuck em
violetknows
god I love when the good folks out there use literal bible verses against these fools
Drix1942
I hope hell is real so evil people like these "christians" go there.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Nah. I came too much, for heaven.
Ittybittybroad
mojar45
They should paint the plastic now
jjp803127001
Set up a series of small fires near it and melt the plastic to the sign to make a worse mess.
generictiff
I drove by this afternoon and someone had ripped the plastic and cardboard off. It was a glorious sight to behold.
FirePrinceZuzu
That... that does sound easier than painting the plastic...
Drix1942
MrsHowVeryDareYou
They knew the risk when they chose to make a sign. Carry the unintended result to full term.
HistoricalContext
"...Wherefore by their fruits, ye shall know them."
FlaminkoFactor
drgonzo67
Right on.
Squirrelpicnic1971
I haven't seen one in a while, but quite a few cars here used to have bumper stickers that said, "Focus on your own damn family."
TheFastpaws
I hope to see a ton more of this.
Whatswrongwiththispicture
Focus on family “Good Christians” spewing hate
Kompromatic
Also should have altered the existing sign to FU*K US IN THE FANNY as a bit of levity to balance the somber painted-on message
Kompromatic
...and YES, I am aware of the UK-colloquial meaning so save your cross-cultural insight
TheRicM
Well then why is called a Fanny pack when I’ve never once seen anyone carrying a Fanny in one of those. Checkmate
Kompromatic
Wouldn't that be a butt tote?
ArcadiaBerger
Does it count that I usually wear mine closer to my fanny than to my fanny...?
Kompromatic
You might be sporting a sporran then
Kompromatic
If you got junk in the trunk you can slip some 'crack in the 'pack.
skapanda616
Cholf
God damn right. lets strike out at these christofascist fuckwads.
chemicalBagel
Good. James Dobson can go fuck himself.
psychicallychargedbear
Cool. Hope it happens again.
flyingmonkeystick
Ijustsigneduptoupvotethis
The vandalism right?
FirePrinceZuzu
*insert anakin padma meme*
iWantedAcoolNameButTheyOnlyHadThisOne
Right?
flyingmonkeystick
queeranddelicious
Seriously. May these signs never again be without graffiti or similar.
ThickTomato
So they are always known
Photeus
Yup. This right here is something Jesus would do. Calls them out harshly and nothing but property was harmed. On the sign itself too.
WonderingWhen
Same. I live here, fuck those folks.
MadamPuddifoot
I hope someone blows up the building with them all in it
Copperbrat
I peed on their bushes once.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Lord's work
hanmerhack
perlsucks
Normally I am against vandalism. This is one of those non-normal things
afterdarkart
When it comes to groups or people that spread hate like this, I suspend all normal human qualities. They aren't human, and they deserve it.
SanshinDojo
I get it, but that’s very dangerous rhetoric.
afterdarkart
It is. I'm tainted by a horrible experience in religion. I was left homeless after the 2008 crash, and my churches response to my need for
afterdarkart
help was to say "too bad. Be homeless, that'll teach you a lesson for next time." WHAT. LESSON.
Syovere
I'm against vandalism here too. It should've been arson.
tarnok
Vandalizing corporations that preach hate isn't really "vandalism" but a message that intolerance is unwelcomed
lncorrectGrammerNazi
I mean, it's still vandalism, but
darthnerdus6236
People over property. People over capital. Vandalism is politically important and the only outlet some communities get.
everythingiscats
Yes. Fuck property. Walls can be painted. You can't make dead people come back.
Snooj
No worries, given the past history of similar cases they most likely did it to themselves to pretend to be a victim.
Jamesstin
Like the one or two other cases where it's mainly just insurance fraud? Which btw is the favorite crime of the conservative.
CardboardStomach
They lack the comprehension for this level I'd say. If it was self-inflicted it'd probs be something dumber, like "Antifa 4ever"
Crowlands
I dunno, the Bible quote is accurate, so it's probably not a Christian that did it.
KittensWonderment
Hahaha that’s brilliant because it’s true
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
It's like the exception for punching a nazi.
Jamesstin
Its pathetic how often this notion is shared but by people who are afraid to tell fast food workers they got their order wrong.
JapCarRealGood
CardboardStomach
Ahh yes, if you won't bother a minimum wage worker after a minor inconvenience obviously you wouldn't get mad enough at a literal Nazi /s
CardboardStomach
You seem to misunderstand the motivation behind the two actions. One is not wanting to make life harder for someone who doesn't deserve it
ErniesWidow
The lettering should have been painted in Rainbow colors.
Evillairforrent
While it should've, it would've taken too much time to spray each letter in different colours increasing the chance to get caught in the act
camcam1234
Non-american here, what is this all about exactly?
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GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
Interesting. It wouldn't let me up-vote that.
battleofhastings1066
Members of an ancient blood cult encourage acts of violence against members of the lgbtq+ community.
NoQuestionMarksInDeclarativeSentences
Another "gunning". I use this word, because a previous comment about the..."gunning" experience I had was deleted.
Altanese
They're an anti-LGBT hate group and there was very recently an anti-LGBT shooting in the area their headquarters is in.
Bardcrest
JOB ME: "One crime does not justify another." PRIVATE ME: (nod of silent approval)
peosratta
I have no job. Cover ever square inch of right wing terrorist property in paint.
WarKittyKat
Someone should remind the evangelicals that Jesus was a criminal.
johnvictor
Graffiti has been overblown by right wing media to make it seem this awful, horrible thing when it serves as a function for discourse.
Swordbian
Buh buh mah broken window theory. How else can I justify using fines to remove poor people out of my neighborhood
Boondangle40
It's just paint.
GadenKerensky
Okay, the addition of the Bible verse elevates this. No quick, spur of the moment thing, someone wanted to send a message. Good.
generictiff
That was my thought, too. The spray paint sends a message but that verse REALLY hammers it home. Kudos to the painters
ParallelParkingInABurka
And what a verse it is, damn!
Karilyn
(1/2) That verse is fucking sick. IMO, we should memorize it and shout it over anything Christian Nazis' say. Since they won't listen to...
Karilyn
(2/3) reason, compassion, or basic decency, maybe we can successfully hit them with their own religion, and actually get them to question...
Karilyn
(3/3) their hatred and hypocrisy by using their own fear of burning in hell against them. Make them doubt their own salvation or whatever.
Jamesstin
These people are already established. We need to focus on destroying the ease of which nation state actors are able to spread what is 1/
Jamesstin
Effectively the nuclear triad equivalent of propaganda through weaponized shit posting & beyond. As an example, does it really seem genuine
JakSandrow
The vandalism approaches but never actually touches the sign itself. And the bible verse as a cherry on top. Class act.
hothotsauce
Never read the Bible but damn shit is deep
SeanBeanJovi
And everything is spelled correctly.
ArcadiaBerger
Well, that definitely proves it wasn't a false flag operation performed by the Dobsonites on their own sign.
generictiff
They truly did it right. That's a high traffic corner so they must have worked fast.
IronicDancing
That Corinthians passage is the rawest, stone-coldest shit.
TL10
Paul took no prisoners in his epistles.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
It's perfect, but it will bounce right off like water on a ducks back.
IronicDancing
The young and impressionable among them deserve the chance to change their minds. Look at Megan Roper from the WBC.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
Point taken. It sometimes works, but it's a hit or miss. A more reliable method is Street Epistemology https://youtu.be/ASn-VdevwTE
kingdomdokha
It’s very powerful. Relevant verses for our time. I’m still thinking about it a day later.
Rainbowdaesh
Conservatives want you to think murder is an appropriate response to property damage but property damage isn't a proper response to murder.
Aurosanda
How bout neither?
SunBrolem
It goes way deeper than that. 'We are good so anything we do is good and right. You are bad so anything you do is bad and wrong.'
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
Yeah you just described most people. Most dictators think they're good and what they're doing is right.
GrammarCorrectionsOfficer
This
Blunderwriter
This is actually so true. Have to keep this in my back pocket.
sgnight13
iamjackscompletelackofcompassion
well said
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
The appropriate response is the justice system. Innocent until proven guilty etc.
truespartangaming
The sheer degree of their twisted ideals and priorities are barely conceivable to any decent person.
SonderingStrike
The revolutions of 1848 prove what direct action does. Property damage is the only answer when democracy is failing.
Cheomesh
What's the bet on them doing it to themselves anyways
iDrawStuff
Because they value property more than people, unless the people are property, too.
ArdentSlacker
Conservatives think human lives have no value, but property does.
azuureth
I mean humans are like whatever. It costs money to fix property.
breach1
Jesus Christ, imgur. They were obviously being sarcastic.
VulcanP90
Really? People hold that opinion unironically. You are as stupid as you pretend to be.
butthurtnevergetsbetter
It's only bad when the wrong people do it. It's only good when the right people do it. Simple.
Arbitrarynamehere
To wit, it's only bad when they feel harm
Higure
See #5
Shaodyn
That's a major feature of Christianity. The concept that even demons will do good things in an attempt to trick people.
Shaodyn
So even if someone is doing something objectively good like helping the poor, it doesn't count unless the helper is Christian.
Navrodel
Literally the point of the anti-Christ: He (or they, multiple in some interpretations) will do a lot of god shit to "fool the righteous."
Shaodyn
So basically, if a non-Christian does a good thing, it's actually an evil thing and should be stopped immediately.
ucandcantunc
oh the pearl clutching and “we are under attack” coming from this will be legendary.
Rainbowdaesh
Good. If their hate threatens LGBTQ safety then they shouldn't feel safe anywhere.
Badprenup
It isn't, but not why conservatives think it isn't. Property damage doesn't go far enough as a response for murder.
deaconshadow
Oh man I’m quoting this.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Very well said.
PeterGregory
This is untrue. They would state lethal force can be an appropriate preventative measure for threat to property in some circumstances.
GrumpyOldMillennial
Yep! Conservatives direct violence towards individuals, liberals direct violence towards property. The two are not the same.
Rhythmaster
I would argue it's not even violence. Vandalism isnt violence. Property damage is not violence.
DrKriegersClone
Yes, the conservatives struck a real blow that ended 5 lives and hurt countless others who loved them. The liberals moderately 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ inconvenienced a hate group's janitor, and acted like that was winning something.
ArcadiaBerger
Who is acting as though they have won something? All I hear are RWNJs howling about the terrible crime that has been committed against...
ArcadiaBerger
...their precious landscaping. Their hypocrisy has been pointed out, and possibly some people will remember this moment, especially if it...
Varenvel
imgur thinks murder is appropriate responsible to single racial slur , still remember post on that old man who got killed and 600+ upvotes>
Varenvel
praising it or saying he got what he deserved and other things. so you wont really need to look far:)
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
Hate speech is violence therefore it was self defence.
Varenvel
By that standard this vandalism is also hatespeach , you cant eat the cake and eat the cake mr "morals"
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
like super sarcastic
Varenvel
Court ruled otherwise , he was charged with manslaughter and no "self defence" was mention in court rulings so ill take their word over your
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
I was being sarcastic.
ravnicrasol
The mindset is "My stuff > Your life -> Step in my lawn and I can kill you because I fear you're here to take my stuff"
Ruderali
They dont even have nice stuff... Its boring useless stuff
Jamesstin
Most of them are maliciously stupid enough to be aware that they got to at least pretend to be endangered themselves. It is a difficult 1/
Jamesstin
Topic though. Castle law w. A duty to retreat is clearly the right solution but outside the home? I feel pretty damn defenseless. People 2/
Jamesstin
Dont like to admit that a punch is enough to kill, a few more will undoubtedly gives most people an experience worthy of outright PTSD. 3/3
spaghettiThunderbolt
My stuff, is in fact, more valuable than the life of some piece of shit thief. Plus you never know if they're there for the VCR or to harm
spaghettiThunderbolt
you or your family until it's too late to do anything about it. I'm always going to err on the side of my family being safe, not a thief.
ravnicrasol
The American Dream of "Have gun to defend house" is that: a dream. It's why the handful of cases where it happens get touted far and wide.
spaghettiThunderbolt
Considering the CDC estimates 100k defensive gun uses at the extremely low end, with the actual number more likely to be 300k+, you're more
ArcadiaBerger
You have made a moral judgment that things are worth more than people. Have you considered the possibility, however remote it might seem...
ArcadiaBerger
...to you now, that you might have to answer for that moral judgment to a higher authority one day? Just a thought.
spaghettiThunderbolt
If there is a higher power, which I don't believe, they'd realize that I work hard for my shit. A game console, for example, costs me about
Sxualhrssmntpanda
I agree with the double standards, but who said murder in retaliation for this property damage was ok?
Jamesstin
Its a common belief of conservatives.
PutItInNeutral
"When the looting starts, the shooting starts." -Walter E Headley and repeated constantly by conservatives
thotterpop
This was said said, directly and indirectly, online; especially when the BLM protests were big.
thotterpop
Many of them lowered their voices after Jan 6th
Jamesstin
No they didnt. Theres enough ambiguity that they can just deflect. What needs to be defined is if there was any clearly defined john brown
Jamesstin
Types with a clear & laid out plans(no I'm not comparing have a abolitionist with modern conservatives. Just the crime. Also let's keep in2
HerrHat
Nobody said. They just widened the scope to catch othersome people's mindset: Killing a home intruder is ok. Painting a rock isn't.
trasneoir
Most famously in recent times, Rittenhouse.
reichstein
Do you mean murderer and domestic terrorist Kyle Rittenhouse?
ProppaGanda
Some people on imgur argued that people should be able to run down protesters doing sit ins on highways.
AustraliaTellsItHowItIs
Violence is not appropriate but if your protest has me trapped in my car you're holding me against my will and that is not okay.
Jamesstin
People arent saying it ought to be legal to murder them but the act of continuing along at a reasonable speed shouldnt be a crime even if it
Jamesstin
Forces these people to move out of the way. I pray you never experience the violence of a mob or any other form as its clear you have no 2/
Jamesstin
Experience with the matters, but its pretty odd that yall cant even sympathize with the fear one might feel in such a situation.
ProppaGanda
Ah yes, the violent mobs
ningi
Read here or on reddit that it's apparently ok to murder a home intruder as "he chose his own life's worth and moment he broke into my house
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PenguinPlans
What kind of monster would introduce gambling and rap in this house!?!?
ningi
And wanted to steal stuff. So it's not my fault he dies because I defended the 200 bucks he might have stolen"
Moolicious
Self defense and protecting property =/= murder
ningi
In most 1st world countries, shooting a thief or burglar dead would be deemed unproportional. Therfore murder
Rhythmaster
I don't have much sympathy for home invaders. It happened to an old lady in my neighborhood. The guy beat her with a baseball bat. The
Rhythmaster
Issue is, you don't know what the intruder will do, maybe just steal, maybe attack you or your loved ones. Cops won't arrive fast enough.