Many years ago, Ron Funches was on @Midnight and was asked to describe his years in high school in five words. He said “Don’t touch my hair please………I went to a mostly white school.” Funniest joke on that show for sure.
I live in New Zealand and visit Australia regularly. Their accent has become more and more americanised over the years I’ve visited. Sounding like a valley girl has prestige to them, seemingly.
Aussies have lots of accents based on their environment. If your family has folks from other countries in it you will probably have some inflections. Matters not... she's fun, smart and good looking.
that's a non-answer. Everywhere has lots of accents based on their environment. I'm asking the background of that accent because it sounds North American (her vowels are very North American).
Yeah, they're emulating a natural look that's INSANELY time-consuming to reach. My (white) shoulder-length hair sometimes gets fucked up with split ends and such, and it's NBD because I know it'll regrow in 6 months. I'd be in a whole different situation if I'd spent 6 years growing into that style. Your hair would be a commitment like having a child.
It's a natural look, it's just being emulated to give someone the freedom to change it up, not be scared of damage, etc, etc.
Yes, and it used to be common for everyone. When I was little, my mom (middle-aged white woman at the time) had like four wigs on her bureau. Most of her vacation pictures are of her in a wig so she didn't have to do her hair.
Ya, and honestly I think it’s awesome. One of my coworkers does this and she mixes it up like every 2 weeks or so. Or if like a special event comes up. Her hair always looks so cool and it was only after she told me that I realized it was wigs 😂😂 I never really notice stuff like that cause I never think to think about it
yeah because it's hard to find hairdressers who can style their hair and it's time consuming to style their hair to meet eurocentric beauty standards that only approves of Black women if they have straight or wavy hair.
Don't even get me started on that last part. Too many people don't realize that that long, straight, silky style is NOT the natural state for black people, and you basically have to commit atrocities to your head to obtain that look.
i'm a white woman with wavy hair, i get it, nobody knows what to do with your hair and you have to straighten your hair to be "tidy" because all the "neat" and "professional" styles rely on perfectly straight flat fine hair that never gets frizzy or escapes its bun/ponytail. as a toddler i had corkscrew curls. i wear wigs, beanies and bandanas to avoid my hair sticking out in all directions.
Hasidic Jewish women do the same for about the same reason, a married woman's hair should always be covered except around her husband so they'll wear wigs in public cause it's not 'their' hair.
I think if you grow up with and are friends with black women, it is common knowledge. What is common knowledge to you is based on your common experience, and that is different based on your environment.
There is a condition called Traction alopecia which is caused by pulling on hair roots. So black women start to experience hair loss at a rate of ~50%, which is second only to white dudes. Besides that natural black person hair requires a lot of maintenance with different oils and conditioners otherwise it gets "crispy" because their hair is too curly to allow natural hair oils to do their thing.
I never knew this til recently. My bff is mixed, her Caribbean dad died when she was little and her abusive white mom she was left with never gave a shit about her needs. We're in our late 30s now and she's been telling me about the things she's just recently been learning about hair care from another friend and now she is able to start styling it closer to what she likes, which is really nice.
My kids mom wears weave and wigs. Years of tight braids ruins hair and hair folicles to the point where natural hair is either brittle af or stops growing. Black hair is VERY different than standard 'white' hair. I can't speak on other ethnicities as I don't have that knowledge. My kids hair is mixed but is closer to mine (white).
My guess (I could be wrong, so if I am,sorry) I think it has to do with the kind of hair they grow. It’s more of a hassle to take care of. So rather than spend hundreds of dollars on new hairstyles and getting it down in a salon, they can wear weaves/wigs.
It’s also bc natural black hair has been seen as unprofessional and it absolutely destroys the hair to straighten it (my friend used strong chemicals to straighten hers for years and her hair had never been the same since)
The lady i knew said that not only was it easier because she could have a protective style for her natural hair but she go from waist length to a Bob curly to straight and every color of the rainbow in about an hour and not fry her hair.
The biggest one is consent, and it applies to everyone, Black women included. Touch anyone without consent and you now consent to the beating you will righteously get.
Absolutely, but for whatever reason, there’s this weird thing where white people (maybe mostly American?) like want to touch someone’s hair if it’s different from their own.
It also happens a lot with my tattoos but that’s different from the standpoint that touching my tattoos is still weird without consent but it’s not going to change it or mess it up.
I want to touch but I have this thing called respect and also impulse control so I do not touch without consent. Also I have social anxiety so I don’t ask for consent, I just keep my hands to myself. But the wanting to touch is not bad (maybe weird but not bad) as long as one does not act on the impulse.
Yup and tbh I think normalizing wigs is the way to go. It's just a thing you put on to make yourself look and/or feel better. Like a nice shirt or a tie or whatever. Or face piercings.
Exactly! Normalize wigs! When Caucasian women wear wigs, some people think, "She must have cancer or she's in disguise." (I'm guilty of thinking these same thoughts) I ( a white chick) have several nice wigs. Sometimes I wanna have fun colored hair or a different length, and whenever I wear one, someone ALWAYS asks, "Why are you wearing a wig?"
African women have some of the coolest most beautiful wigs I've ever seen and I'm constantly surprised by how natural/realistic they look.
An additional question I would like ask is why they have the need to wear wigs? I genuinely do not know and would appreciate it if someone could give some more in depth information on this
Maybe it’s easier to care for? A coworker of mine makes wigs and good ones go for many moneys. She also said you have to be careful where you buy some wigs from as North Korea has wigs that they make and sell as well, (including hair,) and as such you can get in trouble for financially supporting the regime. Fucking crazy
Also: Dominant Society. When you’re bombarded for so long with what hair “should” look like you take that on. Black people have been marginalized in many ways and a way to get back and inside is to be more likeable and similar.
When i was in Zambia I asked why they all wore head wraps and they said it is to better balance things on their heads, but also because their hair is very short.
Three of the five shyly showed me their 2 cm long, kinky hair and explained that the cost of upkeep with oils and silk head wraps and such was just not possible for them, so their hair is very brittle and just can't grow long. I suspect women who CAN afford the upkeep of that type of hair might often choose to put their $ into wigs.
It's a combination of practicality and cost savings. Their hair is very difficult and expensive to style, so a wig let's you trade from hours of hairstyling work or constant salon visits to a cost effective and quick way to keep and maintain a hairstyle or multiple hairstyles.
Their hair follicles are flat and wide, producing hair that's more tightly curled and prone to breaking. Rounder follicles produce straighter, stronger hairs.
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Rapunzel Rapunzel, let down your weave!
Oatmealman1
Comedy is gorgeous... Or is it the comedian?
Manusho
Hey, I'm watching Taskmaster Australia right now.
chrstphrsh
"Oooh, it's like the Spidey-Verse!"
GuitarGeorge
Many years ago, Ron Funches was on @Midnight and was asked to describe his years in high school in five words. He said “Don’t touch my hair please………I went to a mostly white school.” Funniest joke on that show for sure.
krunksplein
Credit where it's due; that show introduced me to a lot of fantastic comedians.
dixxienormus
5 wigs, but only 2 for the head.
Pasquinelthe2nd
dixxienormus
In Australia, all our sex toys are delivered with 5 wigs, doncha know?
Pasquinelthe2nd
eetsumkaus
interesting accent. Is that common in Australia?
arghthisissohard
I live in New Zealand and visit Australia regularly. Their accent has become more and more americanised over the years I’ve visited. Sounding like a valley girl has prestige to them, seemingly.
TsubakiTragic
Aussies have lots of accents based on their environment. If your family has folks from other countries in it you will probably have some inflections. Matters not... she's fun, smart and good looking.
eetsumkaus
that's a non-answer. Everywhere has lots of accents based on their environment. I'm asking the background of that accent because it sounds North American (her vowels are very North American).
TsubakiTragic
The background is that she is comes from Uganda (about 8yo) and has been subjected to the terrors of the Aussie language ever since.
MrFancyPanzer
Is it common for black women to wear wigs?
4etherling
Very
JetrelPixelArt
Yeah, they're emulating a natural look that's INSANELY time-consuming to reach. My (white) shoulder-length hair sometimes gets fucked up with split ends and such, and it's NBD because I know it'll regrow in 6 months. I'd be in a whole different situation if I'd spent 6 years growing into that style. Your hair would be a commitment like having a child.
It's a natural look, it's just being emulated to give someone the freedom to change it up, not be scared of damage, etc, etc.
Nightcaste
Very
Snooj
Yes, and it used to be common for everyone. When I was little, my mom (middle-aged white woman at the time) had like four wigs on her bureau. Most of her vacation pictures are of her in a wig so she didn't have to do her hair.
buttcreambandit
Ya, and honestly I think it’s awesome. One of my coworkers does this and she mixes it up like every 2 weeks or so. Or if like a special event comes up. Her hair always looks so cool and it was only after she told me that I realized it was wigs 😂😂 I never really notice stuff like that cause I never think to think about it
JoanRiversVagina
yeah because it's hard to find hairdressers who can style their hair and it's time consuming to style their hair to meet eurocentric beauty standards that only approves of Black women if they have straight or wavy hair.
keyblader1985
Don't even get me started on that last part. Too many people don't realize that that long, straight, silky style is NOT the natural state for black people, and you basically have to commit atrocities to your head to obtain that look.
JoanRiversVagina
i'm a white woman with wavy hair, i get it, nobody knows what to do with your hair and you have to straighten your hair to be "tidy" because all the "neat" and "professional" styles rely on perfectly straight flat fine hair that never gets frizzy or escapes its bun/ponytail. as a toddler i had corkscrew curls. i wear wigs, beanies and bandanas to avoid my hair sticking out in all directions.
Shinydudenexa
Australian here never knew this till black American comedians talked about it.
Ac1dBurn72
Yes. But also. Many Muslim African women will wear a wig as a way of showing those hair.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Hasidic Jewish women do the same for about the same reason, a married woman's hair should always be covered except around her husband so they'll wear wigs in public cause it's not 'their' hair.
senseicombs
I thought this was common knowledge. I live in Detroit, so I guess I grew up with this as a regular part of life, but I thought everyone knew this.
stephseviltwinII
Nope
senseicombs
I think if you grow up with and are friends with black women, it is common knowledge. What is common knowledge to you is based on your common experience, and that is different based on your environment.
RXJ235231
You wouldn't be-weave how common it is.
DietCokeIsMyDrugOfChoice
Terrible lol take your +1 and gtfo
Lutki
There is a condition called Traction alopecia which is caused by pulling on hair roots. So black women start to experience hair loss at a rate of ~50%, which is second only to white dudes. Besides that natural black person hair requires a lot of maintenance with different oils and conditioners otherwise it gets "crispy" because their hair is too curly to allow natural hair oils to do their thing.
doctorId
I never knew this til recently. My bff is mixed, her Caribbean dad died when she was little and her abusive white mom she was left with never gave a shit about her needs. We're in our late 30s now and she's been telling me about the things she's just recently been learning about hair care from another friend and now she is able to start styling it closer to what she likes, which is really nice.
shanasphone350
Yes
Niagaran
Just remember - wig, weave, or natural - a Black woman's hair is her goddamn crown and needs to be shown the same respect.
keyblader1985
Pretty common. And weave/extensions.
Oatmealman1
My kids mom wears weave and wigs. Years of tight braids ruins hair and hair folicles to the point where natural hair is either brittle af or stops growing. Black hair is VERY different than standard 'white' hair. I can't speak on other ethnicities as I don't have that knowledge. My kids hair is mixed but is closer to mine (white).
DonIsMe
Huh. I had no idea.
WeatherWiz
My guess (I could be wrong, so if I am,sorry) I think it has to do with the kind of hair they grow. It’s more of a hassle to take care of. So rather than spend hundreds of dollars on new hairstyles and getting it down in a salon, they can wear weaves/wigs.
stillnodog
It’s also bc natural black hair has been seen as unprofessional and it absolutely destroys the hair to straighten it (my friend used strong chemicals to straighten hers for years and her hair had never been the same since)
HulaJesus
The lady i knew said that not only was it easier because she could have a protective style for her natural hair but she go from waist length to a Bob curly to straight and every color of the rainbow in about an hour and not fry her hair.
SteveTheEgg
So if you are white, as I am, may I suggest the 2009 Chris Rock documentary Good Hair. It is very entertaining and educational.
fknbastard
Yes. As someone who sometimes also wears wigs. There are many reasons never to fuck with or even touch a Black woman’s hair. This is merely one.
harmsebamse
Does this go for all hair, or just hair on the head?
Im asking for a friend
fknbastard
I don’t think I understand the question.
TwiceK
Basic human decency? Why would someone touch another person's hair/body?
Bhurano
Why the fuck would someone touch another persons hair just so? o_O Seems respect less like hell to me.
Makes no sense to me... and I'm as white as they come. Hell, I'm throwing hands if someone tried that with me... and I'm a dude.
Then again, I'm german... and usually we have some clear boundaries.
OrionRex
The biggest one is consent, and it applies to everyone, Black women included. Touch anyone without consent and you now consent to the beating you will righteously get.
fknbastard
Absolutely, but for whatever reason, there’s this weird thing where white people (maybe mostly American?) like want to touch someone’s hair if it’s different from their own.
It also happens a lot with my tattoos but that’s different from the standpoint that touching my tattoos is still weird without consent but it’s not going to change it or mess it up.
WhatTheFrench
I want to touch but I have this thing called respect and also impulse control so I do not touch without consent. Also I have social anxiety so I don’t ask for consent, I just keep my hands to myself. But the wanting to touch is not bad (maybe weird but not bad) as long as one does not act on the impulse.
MichikoTheJungleFox
Yup and tbh I think normalizing wigs is the way to go. It's just a thing you put on to make yourself look and/or feel better. Like a nice shirt or a tie or whatever. Or face piercings.
BeachsideBarghest
Dated a girl from Mozambique and she loved showing off her (impressive) collection of wigs! They're just fancy hats at the end of the day.
Fayen
Exactly! Normalize wigs!
When Caucasian women wear wigs, some people think, "She must have cancer or she's in disguise." (I'm guilty of thinking these same thoughts)
I ( a white chick) have several nice wigs. Sometimes I wanna have fun colored hair or a different length, and whenever I wear one, someone ALWAYS asks, "Why are you wearing a wig?"
African women have some of the coolest most beautiful wigs I've ever seen and I'm constantly surprised by how natural/realistic they look.
itwasababyox
Exactly - same as drawing in your eyebrows
keppler38
Yep. And it’s nice to see people aren’t just mad at you for asking the question.
FTUG
An additional question I would like ask is why they have the need to wear wigs? I genuinely do not know and would appreciate it if someone could give some more in depth information on this
LespritDeLescalier22
Maybe it’s easier to care for? A coworker of mine makes wigs and good ones go for many moneys. She also said you have to be careful where you buy some wigs from as North Korea has wigs that they make and sell as well, (including hair,) and as such you can get in trouble for financially supporting the regime. Fucking crazy
keppler38
Also: Dominant Society. When you’re bombarded for so long with what hair “should” look like you take that on. Black people have been marginalized in many ways and a way to get back and inside is to be more likeable and similar.
Just my thoughts.
firlefranz
ArcaneM37
When i was in Zambia I asked why they all wore head wraps and they said it is to better balance things on their heads, but also because their hair is very short.
Three of the five shyly showed me their 2 cm long, kinky hair and explained that the cost of upkeep with oils and silk head wraps and such was just not possible for them, so their hair is very brittle and just can't grow long. I suspect women who CAN afford the upkeep of that type of hair might often choose to put their $ into wigs.
kawraith
It's a combination of practicality and cost savings. Their hair is very difficult and expensive to style, so a wig let's you trade from hours of hairstyling work or constant salon visits to a cost effective and quick way to keep and maintain a hairstyle or multiple hairstyles.
Oatmealman1
Don't forget how years of tight braids destroy hair folicles and can cause hair to fall out
SandyTentaclez
Hmm... makes sense. I heard a lot before that the hair of black people behaves very different and needs to be cared for differently roo.
onepinksheep
I believe it's the texture and the way the hair kinks and stuff — it takes a lot of effort to style into place. Like, professional level effort. Like a wise person once said, https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Z3JwenFweDN1YTc0dWhicGo5ZGJpOTdhNzQ0eHlsOTN5YWduczQ3NiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/10PcMWwtZSYk2k/200w.webp
antikytherion
Their hair follicles are flat and wide, producing hair that's more tightly curled and prone to breaking. Rounder follicles produce straighter, stronger hairs.