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Zahnradfee
That resipe was learly placed there by a time traveer from 2075 who found a cure to multiresistant bacteria only AFTER humanity has already been wipe out by it.
Couchwarrior1337
It's still a bit "broken clock is right twice a day." like how for every "stay outside the camp for x time if you're sickly" there was a "cut open this dove, dip the other dove in its blood, and shake it madly at the guy with leprosy. dude trust me."
Snooj
So it's like doing CPR to the beat of Stayin' Alive.
fearlessfloyd
What a fascinating read for this Sunday morning!
azzabat
Similar to “Cups” in medieval cooking. The size of the cup doesn’t matter as 2 cups of A to 1 cup of B is always a 2:1 ratio
lostinthoughts
It's similar to why cups are used as measurements. You didn't have scales back in the day, so 100gr is useless. But you'd have a dedicated cup for baking/cooking. I also heard that people would sing or recite poems to measure cooking times. And church bells are still used to indicate time, at least here in Austria! If you count the rings, you can tell what time it is :)
HikariShade
Ive been looking to create a new RPing character that's a witchy corvid of some kind... this is going to be extremely useful for both information and source material reading. Thank you @OP !
huntsnhava40
Maybe something you can cobble from this? I remember a friend playing a version many years back :) As DM I added a *Shiny* feat/flaw to find neat things on occasion but be easily distracted based on a random percentage roll, but this was way back in 3.5 lol https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Maiden_of_the_Crow_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)
DYLANLEE79
In the south the Shortnin' Bread song was used for timing for baking.
CoretTrobane
Not to derail this little back and forth, but this is a case of the English language being the English language ... antibiotic (adjective) vs antibiotic (noun).
ICantPeelMyFaceWhenImWithYou
Elfpen, what a great contribution to @huntsnhava40’s post! Thoroughly interesting and sauced! Thank you for your informative Ted talk. Lots of us nerds enjoy it.
spitfires2000
Like washing your hands singing "Happy birthday to you"
Imsorrythatwasinappropriate
Cornchip2000
MRSA is a growing problem. What is being done to create an updated version of the eye salve medication, and who is doing it? Great piece...
VodkaReindeer
1. It's 2023. Of course the answer is gonna be AI: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-65709834. 2. I don't think we have a problem with *topical* antibiotics being evaded. You can put a lot more stuff on you compared to in you.
alt86er
The problem is more the other way around: Using antibiotics for every little problem, even when not likely to help, increases the problem more and more, while actually giving little gain on many fields, or being the wrong solution to an artificially created problem. (E.g. miserable living conditions for animals causing infections, being treated with antibiotics (on a regular basis), instead of just improving the living condition in the first place.)
polarbearbaby
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ProphetofEntropy
the salve they made is an antiseptic not an antibiotic, doesnt make it less impressive though.
codenameRadical
The egg was probably not used as a coating, but as an emulsifier. That is also the purpose of egg in quite a lot of food recipes. Eggs contain lecithin, the actual emulsifier. So by mixing sulfur with egg, it's essentially making a uniform mixture that holds together.
omnipotentpasta
Woah that was a long one but fascinating and worth it. Time to make some craft cytotoxic witches witches brew!
omnipotentpasta
Wow I need some other witches brew. Just noticed the double word. Must have had a stroke
Mechwarrior719
No. It’s witch’s brew made by cytomage witches. Very specialized branch of magic. Surprised you know about it.
JaTheRed
imakesoap
My mom died of MRSA and she would have been all for testing out this mighty salve
CallThisAUsername
Sorry about your loss. And sadly, this would not affect the Aureus after it passed ibto the bloodstream, only on cutaneous infections.
Bunnies007
#1 The incantation thing continues. I'm sure that many of you remember that during the pandemic, we were told to wash our hands for as long as it takes to sing 'Happy Birthday' twice.
Zahnradfee
I also learned that when you do CPR you are supposed to press on the chest in the rhyth of "Stayin' Alive".
Bunnies007
That's odd, that very thing came up in something I was watching on TV last night!
TheRockDude
jvh6609
Totally NOT TLDR! Well worth the time. Disappointed in myself that THIS is now a long read for me 😳
ShiftyBat
The only Paternoster I recognize is Marissa of Screaming Females, ranked 77th best guitarist alive and active pizza enthusiast.
Hoiloidl
The only Paternoster I recognize is the elevator that goes round and round.
heimeyer72
f'ing that!!!!! Me too!
DavidNightingale
Exactly. This is why there are so many cures for hiccups: anything that takes 3 minutes will cure hicups.
heimeyer72
3 minutes? When I was a little kid, it was one teaspoon of sugar, when I was a young adult I kinda found out by myself that sipping any (drinkable, water-based, no-alcoholic!) liquid would cure hiccups. The sipping method seemed to work a little better and takes a bit longer but still under 3 minutes. Just waiting for 3 minutes seems to NOT work.
DigYourselfBaby
You have to get your breathing back in sync with your diaphragm. The 'tricks' you hear about are just ways to help you ignore the spasms and relax the tension. Just take deep, slow, breaths. :)
LordKitchenersValet
If you enjoyed the first half of this, or if you're just enthusiastically literate, I recommend Pratchett's YA novel Nation it has a lot to do with this eventually
ToSisPoS
I got my then-future gf a signed copy of Nanny Ogg’s Cookbook. Precious beyond words.
allcattywampus
so no one's gonna talk about this blinding the crab thing
Rogahar
Ye Olde Placebo, basically. "This patient's problem either has no cure, or we dont know what the cure is, but they keep coming back to ask me about it constantly so I'm giving them some convoluted busy-work to keep them out of my hair for a while. Either the problem isnt bad enough for them to try it, or it is and they might just convince themselves it works." Couple that with the fact that back then we didn't think creatures like that had anything >
Rogahar
> resembling self awareness or even a concept of pain and other wacky theories, so the doctor felt no guilt advising his patient to mutilate a crab as a curative.
ZebAsiz
Sometimes when you have a migraine you just really want to rip something's eyes out~
HikariShade
As someone who suffers migraines often.... Yes.
Zahnradfee
Yeah, this is horrible! Poor little crab friend!
DarylDutch
You are never going to catch a crab with a migraine. But a nice day on the beach might help.
JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
What was really missing is the _idea_ that nature is systematic and testable, not just a collection of ad hoc rules and hacks that you can study, compile, and perhaps exploit. That's the main difference between a scientist and a very smart court wizard.
montyman185
And having the resources to test things procedurally at a large enough scale to actually get anywhere with it. There's plenty of examples of competitors hiding their discoveries from the few other people in their field because only one of them was gonna get that court funding.
envador
CDC recommended singing the happy birthday song while washing hands during covid. It may have helped some people live to have more birthdays. The ancient birthday incantations of our ancestors prevails!
stickywiggit
I recite Mary Had a Little Lamb when I need to swab something. It's exactly long enough.
bot1010011010
Pink Floyd's "Interstellar Overdrive" is just the right length for kneading bread dough
OrionKaelin
I remember being taught that as a kid, and twice for tooth brushing. Don't actually sing it any more (even mentally) but I spend at least the same amount of time and probably even more thoroughness out of habit now.
TheMysteriousTraveller
And they teach CPR with music these days so that you have a steady cadence to your compressions.
Smayds
Whatever you do, do NOT use anything from Pendulum as your song.
Ninjab33z
i love this fact cause of the irony in two of the best ones for it. you can either go for "stayin' alive" or "another one bites the dust"... just don't sing the latter out loud
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
My favorite example of this is doing chest compressions to the Bee Gees' "Stayin' Alive".
imhereforthecommunity
Queen, Another One Bites the Dust is of similar bpm, and depending on your outlook, potentially more accurate.
SirenBrick
Yup. they found the numerical memorization method was something like 25% as effective as just singing to a beat in rookie responders. Our brains are wired for music, so in a stressful situation music comes to us more easily than memorized figures.
Markuspsyches
Music is also tied to movement in the brain, as witnessed if you ever found yourself unknowingly tapping/stepping etc to a beat.
thesnappypants447
Anything 100-110 or so bpm works, everything from Sweet Home Alabama to Never Gonna Give You Up. Just remember, 1/3 chest depth or you're not doing it properly and CPR with rescue breaths 30:2 is more effective, but if you don't have a safe way to go rescue breaths, CPR without rescue breaths is significantly better than doing nothing. And know where your nearest AED is. Early defibrillation saves lives.
paynoattentiontousernames
When I last participated in a first aid course, we were told to do heart compression to the rythm of Stayin Alive by BeeGees. Future archeologists might mistake that trend for superstition and belief in magic.
xETM
"Future archeologists might mistake that trend for superstition and belief in magic." Of course, sacrificing our enemies on an altar to John Travolta won't be helping matters...
Septcanmat
“What are these B.G.s? What did the acronym stand for? We may never know. But despite their mysticism and superstitious ways, primitive man of the 20th century devised a way to compress the heart by hand at an appropriate rhythm for resuscitation.”
Hoiloidl
Nicely enough you can also use Another one bites the Dust!
heimeyer72
Wouldn't you rather use THAT one after resuscitation failed? :P
spankeyfish
That eyesalve sounds like it would burn a hole in your eyelid.
DivaythFyr
That's kinda the point.
an0therthr0waway
maybe the point of applying it with a feather was daintiness, to avoid spreading too much of it around the eye?
TheMysteriousTraveller
Also, would you really want to stick your finger in it?
Leithoa
It's probably fine as long as you wash it off.
picselator
In the popular RPG Kingdom Come Deliverance there's a quest relating to this topic: spoilers in the reply.
picselator
If I remember correctly, there's a blacksmith that's being thought of doing black magic because he recites incantations while working and his weapons and tools are superior to others. You find out he does, indeed, recite some weird words and rhymes and, as the post here describes, it's exactly for timing of the smithing steps, heating, cooling, hammering etc.
Rogahar
So it's the medieval blacksmith equivalent of singing Staying Alive to yourself to keep the right pace for CPR. Sounds sensible to me, and also like a concept we would reasonably have come up with ages ago. Now if only KCD would let me play a stealth build instead of forcing me into a cage match against a boss, I'd be happier with it.
picselator
I'd recommend the game in general, it does build a pretty accurate world for medieval Central Europe, including actual historical events.
Hexrowe
Yeah, singing and reciting verse were common casual timing methods until the invention of modern affordable clocks. Hudson Hawk didn't just make it up for nothing.
an0therthr0waway
Would you like to swing on a star?
Hexrowe
Carry moonbeams home in a jar?
Hoiloidl
and be better off than you are?
Hexrowe
Or would you rather be a mule?
littlecoatfatguy
Honestly, even the practice of Catholic penance is really just a form of timed meditation; "recite twelve Hail Marys" is essentially saying "I need you to go and spend about three minutes to stop and just think about what you did".
realizedagain
Do you actually think forcing an adolescent teen to go and spend time feeling guilty because they're gay is 'meditation'?
realizedagain
I would not have guessed that Imgur comments section would be where I found defense of Catholicism's gross idea of penance, guilt, and shame.
vegivamp
You have superposed your own thoughts on the argument being made, and are now arguing that it is wrong. No shit Sherlock, you made it wrong yourself. Go say ten hail Marys to refresh your mind and then read the whole thing again.
realizedagain
What are you talking about? Do you just not know much about Catholic penance?
Malloon
Maybe not penance, but ritual prayer certainly seems most akin to meditation.
realizedagain
No, meditation isn't supposed to have you wallowing in guilt. This is nonsense.
realizedagain
Hey idiot downvoters: Catholic penance is not at all like meditation. it is supposed to have you thinking about how you are a guilty, unworthy soul totally dependent on Christ to absolve you from your sins. It's nothing to celebrate.
AfraidToCook
Meditation is not innately positive. Meditating on one's faults is a thing, and that is essentially what that style of penance is.
realizedagain
No it isn't. It's forcing yourself to think about what someone else has told you your faults are, based on an extremely fucked-up system of values.
AfraidToCook
Meditation is contemplative in nature. What you are contemplating doesn't really matter-- you can meditate on nature, you can meditate on oneness, you can meditate on nothingness, you can meditate about how awful you are. Whether it's self-driven, enforced by others, or something else, doesn't matter. It's still meditation.
godofhorizons
Yeah, no. I have no doubt most people who did their ‘penance’ was like, “cool. I’m in the clear. Time to go sin again.”
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
The whole thing about repentance is you regret doing it the first time. That's like going through addiction therapy and being like, "oh boy now I can do heroin again."
godofhorizons
Yeah except a LARGE portion of catholic christians nowadays (and rich nobles and church officials back then) don’t actually care about repentance and don’t actually feel guilt for their sins. They sin their hearts out, go to ‘confession’, do their ‘penance’ to get forgiven, then go and repeat, guilt free because Jesus died for our sins so who cares at this point.
Aremic
Nope, you're right and shouldn't be getting DV'd. I split from Catholicism because of this exact crap. Smoking, gossiping, right outside the church they just confessed in- while my bullies dragged me around behind the building and beat the snot out of me. You think bringing up how disappointed God would be helped? HA, they just beat me harder, then "confessed" it next week. My mom is a horrible narcist, does the same thing. Acts like a horrid witch, then confesses and does nothing to fix herself
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Have you considered that they never felt guilty, or don't care about feeling guilty and only go to confession to appear pious?
godofhorizons
That....was the entire point of my comment?