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Link to original tweet https://twitter.com/GBBranstetter/status/1519395789910462466
Link to the Trevor Project, which saves LGBT+ lives on the daily https://www.thetrevorproject.org/
Link to article https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/3/28/police-19-year-old-trans-woman-kathryn-newhouse-killed-father
Link to article https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/mom-pleads-guilty-murder-8-year-old-boy-thought-be-n848741
Link to article https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/nevada-father-murdered-son-being-gay-former-foster-mom-claims-n817906
Just felt it might be good to spread a bit of truth about the horrors of anti-LGBT violence that bigots will do against even their own children, given the rhetoric these same people have about protecting kids. Maybe show one of these next time someone wants to whine about the 'leftist agenda' to 'brainwash kids'.
ChristopherHallett
Black trans women have a 1 in 7 murder rate in the USA. 1 in 7. Consider that before you ever consider "gender critical" talking points...
SassyAssSlap
"God says honor thy parents and Jesus says love thy neighbor, nobody said anything about loving or honoring your gay child" - my dad
PeeterGrant
Can shitty people just please stop?
Corrodias
Nope. We have to make them.
GrassssssssTastesBad
Tried to tell a friend Trans folk are murdered at a hugh rate n he goes, "by who???" Like idk bud, bad people
MechaNinja
I'm a shit father. I taught my kids nothing useful. The 17 yr old slept with the 19 yr old's girlfriend. But when the 19 yr old came out as
MechaNinja
trans male, I never once considered murdering him. I guess I'm not so bad after all?
spookyactionatadistance
Fernandez is a heavy case. I watched the doc and man did it make me cry.
DomJotHuman
“I support you, I just don’t want you to get any ‘unnecessary’ surgeries” said the in-law who doesnt understand anything about the situation
DomJotHuman
And is now…fostering(?) an individual who they show more affection to than their own kid
IUsedToHaveUsernameOnce
I don't have kids but for fuck sake how much of a failure of a human being you have to be to kill your own kid for being themselves
DumbandConfused
My mom fled the state for a week when I came out as Trans MtF. Guess I got lucky.
amundost
There is a lot of claimd about being gay is an evil, but most of the bad stuff I've read about has been done by straight people...
SignHerePlease
*religious people
amundost
As Weinberg said:"good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion"
bikergeek6249
If I had realized I was bi in high school and had come out (or been outed) to my dad, he would have thrown me out on the street on my ear.
NomadGray
For anyone using this software, have a parent approved (christian?) youtube video on a normal browser so thats what shows up when they snoop
brianbrian4566
ohgodthehorror
I couldn't imagine not loving my kids because of who they are/ what makes them happy. I'm so sorry for these kids. :(
TeSoad90
Please know that the website does not delete your browsing history still be careful!
ConsistentlyLateCommenter
There is a Netflix documentary about Gabriel Fernandez and it is horrifying
liltortellini
Won’t ever be able to forget that one. How a parent could inflict that kind of drawn out torture…
thereitis101
I’m in the LA area and refuse to watch it. The details were bad enough. These cases always seem to involve a BF or GF or step parent.
broccolismoke
I can't watch it. Within minutes I'm crying and hopeless for justice
chata954
I will never forget his precious little face and im crying as i write this, he deserved love. I can't fathom his pain. fuck them so much
VictusVonGuyver
Him and that other little boy tortured and fed to pigs. I just can't fathom how anyone can do this to their own children.
eetsumkaus
Wait, that was LGBT related?
SoundFuture
At least vaguely.
Fuckweasel
Yes. "Aguirre was allegedly motivated to abuse Fernandez because he believed he was gay. The abuse and torture did not extend to 1/2
Fuckweasel
Fernandez's siblings." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gabriel_Fernandez#Abuse_and_murder 2/2
KawaiiInari
How much HATE do you have to kill anyone, but especially your own child?! Jfc! If my kid is non hetero, I hope she knows she is safe w/ me
Corrodias
About as much as I have for the right wing pundits, I would estimate, but what's truly hard to imagine is doing that in such a way as to »
Corrodias
get caught, not even taking precautions to get away with it. Popular though fascism is, murder is still illegal if you're not a cop.
nangke
Don't forget one of their Bible stories is of Abraham having to obey when told by God to kill his son Isaac
nangke
Somehow it's completely fine that God stopped Abraham at the last minute
Corrodias
In that dogma, what the god says is the right thing to do. You obey the god, or else, full stop. No moral considerations come into it.
forResearchPurposesOnly
I know many gay people who were forced to live in the streets because their parents disowned them. Fkn horrific and crazy.
tzap
My female cousin started dating a woman some time ago. My uncle told her that she's grown all wrong from spending too much time with her ..
tzap
.. mother and more or less disowned her. They haven't talked since. Happened a few years ago.
Volimar
The Trevor Project is amazing. I can't recommend them enough.
Schnerfle
I volunteered with them for over a year and it was some of the most fulfilling work I've done in Mental Health
Kevinbfree
I'm horrified and heartbroken everytime I hear one of these stories.
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
I tell religious people god created gays to fix over population and if he didn't then the shit god killed those kids by "gods plan"
mustardburp
Well, now you can sue teachers for discussing such double plus ungood topics in Florida! PROBLEM SOLVED FOREVER!
PballQhead
They would rather see dead children than LGBT children
YouAreTheInsultMaster
pRo LiFe!
Tom40
Imagine being so much of an asshole that you’d rather murder your kid than accept their sexual preferences.
Spiked
I don't even have kids but the thought of murdering my child is unimaginable. Let alone for who they are
dudehiemer
Why does it matter what plumbing people like? It isn't really anyone's business except theirs.
eetsumkaus
Yeah, but if they accepted then then they'd have to find a different excuse to be cruel to people
activeracer28
Who else remembers the brutal torture and death of a gay student in Laramie Wyoming 20yrs ago.
HeyoooItsMe
Matthew Shepard. RIP
dontcallmefrancis
Ryan White
Willowknowsall
I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around why it has anything to do with anyone else's life to the point you kill bc of it?
TeddyMoment
I remember Matthew Shepard.
Footstepsofdawn
I can never forget about him. I think about him every time I hear about gay kids struggling or getting hurt. That story stuck with me.
ThenIDefyYouStars
I can't forget, thanks to The Laramie Project. Theater is important
KingMagenta
It's 12:53 AM, October 12th when the scarecrow died. A victim of society's cruelty. https://youtu.be/tq8fFoY7RqY
Phayze87
Isn't that what started the Laramie project? Similar to this one? There's been so many of these fucked up stories it's hard to keep track :(
Fuckweasel
Yes
nanomaus
I will never forget that. :(
MegaMon3000
Yeah as a gay kid who grew up in Wyoming I was terrified that anyone would find out I was gay.
Askingforafriend37
Jesus fuck. I got 2 friends in Laramie, both LGBTQ. Crazy to think that that was happening when they were being born...
Sesquey
All this shit is terrible, but that was probably not a hate crime...
hobbitdude13
Leithoa
Fuuuck off!
saysomethingcool
I'm marginally interested in your reasoning here? What's a hate crime?
Sesquey
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard
activeracer28
Oh look, it's the its ok to brutally beat, tie to fence, and continue to beat someone to death over pot defender. Fuck you.
itsthevoiceman
How you even read a BASIC synopsis of the event in question? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard
Sesquey
Yes. I've read more. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
DorkJedi
As long as you eliminate all the hate crime parts of the case, its not a hate crime.
SanshinDojo
icommentwithsteveharvey
Weak bait is bait
kaoticgirl
I worked with a few people who lived there when it happened and they have both told me that it was all about drugs. I wasn't involved so I >
kaoticgirl
Obv can't say but it's interesting that I've heard this a couple times now, and from some people that were actually there. Either way, it
kaoticgirl
Was horrific.
kojenk
Thats because they were trying to discount the murder & character assasinate the victim. Just like cummunities defending serial rapists
copperdomebodhi
My sister lived in Wyoming, She was convinced the media is biased because it wouldn't repeat the drug-dealing rumors. "He was no angel" 1/2
copperdomebodhi
and other excuse-making always go around after hate crimes like these. They make the whole community look bad. 2/2
VictusVonGuyver
It really frustrates me that so many people want to character assassinate victims to justify any prejudice.
Sesquey
Not what I was doing. His murder was horrific, unequivocally, full stop.
ChopDaffodil
Everyone in the community remembers that and it haunts them to this day.
xerofall
Broke my heart when they said his face was covered in blood, except where the tears streamed down his face.
tylerama
Awful, just sickening. Poor lil fella ?
Girlie1337
That is an incredibly heartbreaking image. How can people hate that much...
yourmomscheese
I only learned about it last year. Horrifying
Riorach
The real gay agenda at its core is just survival. We want to exist freely, that’s it. I lucked out with my parents, but my mother almost -
NeynasGhost
My parents wouldn't physically harm us if I or my NB sibling came out, I feel safe in saying that. But a lifetime of watching them scoff and
NeynasGhost
make snide comments about anyone they so much as suspected of being less than ruler-straight and cis? Let alone the things they've said
NeynasGhost
about people who are out? Yeah, nah. I'll keep my mouth fucking shut around them.
Riorach
Yeah that shit can be the most damaging, my parents did it too and my coming out was scary and harsh. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Riorach
I will say, I feel better being out, and we did mend the bridges and are pretty great friends now, it doesn’t always happen like I wish.
Riorach
Killed my father for being so judge mental and cruel about it. Now we’re in a better place but thousands of my people still have this happen
Riorach
All the time. Its horrifying and I have more friends on the dead side of suicide than alive. Just let people exist. Let us be alive and free
howwouldyoudescribeyourself
And this is why I won't tolerate a single homophobic remark, neither jokingly nor seriously. Words matter, and children are impressionable.
AngryQueefNoises
When I was 14 I thought I'd test my mom's reaction to me being gay so I came right out and said "MA I'm gay!" and not wasting a second she-
AngryQueefNoises
Said "so?" lmao. Turns out I'm just half gay. But she dgaf. I wish it wS that way for all kids. Just a "so?" bc that's how important it is.
saysomethingcool
Jeez that's some sharia law shit! I can't even imagine trying to kill my son for anything!
ObliqueRay
Everybody says that but what if one day you came home to find he had ordered pizza with pineapple and no cheese?
ensensu
I'd eat the pineapples by themselves.
usinventilatedarea
I'd ask why the hell did he order pizza without cheese and then I'd eat it anyway.
Footstepsofdawn
Literally was thinking of the same thing reading this.
HieronymousFlex
Same shit, different book. Christians will enforce their own version of sharia law if we let them.
GooTessa
I mean Christianity originates from the middle wast. It IS sharia law by definition because it isnt the natual religion of america.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
That's... not what Sharia law is. And America doesn't have a "natual" religion, 1st Amendment ensures that.
certainlynotaserialkiller
its generally christians in america that do this, in europe its islam.
BlindGardener
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/26/italy-lgbt-new-law-debate in italy it’s christians
tzap
Samuel Luiz, Francois Chenu, Maria Paola Gaglione, Michael Causer, James Kerr, and many others would disagree were they alive to.
tzap
Islamist extremists have targeted LGBT+ people in European countries. But the majority of violence against LGBT+ people is not by Muslims
push2play
Every time I think we've finally moved past this, every God damn time.
xj4low
Every time there seems to be growth in understanding, the anti gets up and speaks out and they band together in a group of hate.
Corrodias
Oh wow, no, we're not even remotely close to moving past this. It's going to be a couple hundred more years, at least.
Corrodias
It's likely to take millions of years, some genuine evolutionary change in the average human brain, to achieve meaningful change.
certainlynotaserialkiller
as long as you have book club gatherings on sunday you will continue to have these issues
Altanese
I think it's dangerous to pin all of this on religion, not just because of the potential for religious bigotry, but also the rhetoric has 1/
certainlynotaserialkiller
you show me a gay hater and i will show you a religious person or one with religious parents.
Altanese
That's all well and good but, again, this completely ignores the increasingly secular arguments, or how even atheistic societies like 1/
Altanese
China can and do have massive anti-LGBT discrimination.
Altanese
increasingly shifted to more secular arguments. Transphobes usually don't quote the Bible, in my experience, but rather try to argue 2/
Altanese
from a scientific standpoint to justify their bigotry.
whitefoxkei
Which really has the same weight as when flat earthers try to argue "the science"
givemeyourdamnsandwich
No matter what one's thoughts are on the LGBTQ+ community, NOBODY should ever torture or kill their child over it! LOVE YOUR DAMN KIDS!
shyasen
*NIBODY should ever be tortured or killed because of their sexual orientation or gender identity whether they transition or not.
thedarkcanuck
You'd think that would be in the Bible somewhere
Goldenbeer
Over anything at all. How the fuck? As a father it's inconceivable, like trying to grasp the concept of infinity.
Kerdnerl
No matter what one's thoughts are on the LGBTQ+ community, NOBODY should ever torture or kill over it! FTFY
Katabare
My dad choked me until I passed out while my mom hit me with a shoe. a part of me literally died that day
Ijustwanttobememe
You did NOT deserve any of that torture and that hatred was their fucked up issue.
Hellscourge
You put them into existence. The least you can do is take care of them! If you didn't want a kid, you shouldn't have had one. Its not a 1/2
Hellscourge
Choose your kid thing. You don't get to back out of it after 15 years like some sort of car sale. Its final! Love them and support them!
arpinas
I don't think I'll ever understand why anyone cares about other people's sexuality, gender, race, religion, etc. So much meaningless hate.
arpinas
As long as you're not hurting anyone, you do you
Dispatch
1) These people see their kids as extensions of themselves, not as real individuals. 2) These people HATE themselves. 3) These people see...
Dispatch
their kid being gay/trans/whatevs as an affront against their own selves and a personification of everything they already self-hated.
Duffinn
“What if im not comfortable parenting someone that chooses that lifestyle?” “Choose a different. fucking. profession. You =\= Parent.”
zachattach117
In addition, no child/adolescent should even remotely FEAR for their lives over a small aspect of themselves (of which they have no control)
LexDel
DON'T HAVE KIDS IF YOU WILL NOT LOVE AND SUPPORT THEM UNCONDITIONALLY!
SaxophoneReid
Well said
BallsackHippo
Nobody should torture or kill anybody. Period.
ragekritz
we like to think that all parents get some sort of instinct to care for their young, but here we are.
ragekritz
Some might kill their own kids just cause they know they won't have biological grandkids of their own.
Cangurina
For the record, you cant just kill another person PERIOD for ANY FUCKING REASONS, If you hate them so much, just stop talking to them /1
Cangurina
It's still a really shitty thing to do, but at least they get to live and get the hell away from you like you ACTUALLY want anyway
Cangurina
but NOO, "I need to murder them" and then what the fuck do you think happens??? You just get to live free? You dipshits
capefling
And don't be a phobic :)
xmsbeanx
My child is starting her h.r.t. to transition to the lady she's always meant to be. My other daughter is gay. F* these terrible parents!
MrRandom314159
Sick part is, they think they are. How do you tell someone the way they love their kids is wrong if they're that far gone?
xj4low
To all those saying "it is their decision to be this way" have never had to feel out of place.
100KushUps
I thought you meant the parents and was like "Nono, they absolutely chose to be that way, assholes".
Alpine262
I think a lot of them just don't understand and they think they do. Everyone feels out of place sooner or later, it's more than that.
xj4low
I just come from a place that I mind my own business. I known a few G's and L's and a post op trans. Whatever makes you more comfortable (1
xj4low
2) is ok with me. I got enough crap going on that I don't need to assert myself on others. I don't know if that qualifies as tolerance or
xj4low
3) acceptance of if it even matters in the end.
Kopar
100% agree.
Pirokowall
Bible says to stone them. I don’t support it, I just think Christian’s should have to acknowledge that their book does, and explain themself
LocalUnassumingGuy
And I'm an anti-theist, but it's factual that the closest followers of religion are the fundamentalists, they don't discard arbitrarily.
LocalUnassumingGuy
The vast vast majority of Christians have cherrypicked their holy book so much, they don't follow Christ they follow their own moral compass
PoopyProblem5
What if you child is hitler? AND TRANS?? Checkmate
Altanese
you forgot the /s (hopefully)
PoopyProblem5
I didnt "forget" the s. Yes i was being sarcastic but i was hoping people wouldnt be so offended. Having to explain your troll is lazy
Badprenup
Being a bad troll is lazier
PoopyProblem5
Touche
ztygs
The fact that you lump "hitler" and "trans" together says a lot.
PoopyProblem5
Lmao
Sacktappington
Preach. And if you’re worried whether or not you’re gonna murder your kids… you probably just shouldn’t have kids.
Altanese
A lot of these people probably think 'I'm not worried, cause I'd never raise a queer kid in the first place!'
PalaverQuader
"I brought you into this world, so i can take you out of it" attitude. Hollywood lines. disgusting society values. bah.
willbailey226131415
And if religious prob think God won't send them to hell, case of won't happen to me syndrome. They are all fucktards.
Altanese
Transphobes will often point to detransition stories to justify forms of hate that they try to make palatable, i.e. 'Look I don't have 1/
PrincessDaystar
It was great fun hearing over and over how getting the surgeries is a bad idea...
Altanese
anything against trans people (lie), I just think we shouldn't be forcing this dangerous rhetoric on kids'. Meanwhile, these very same 2/
johnvictor
We shouldn't force dangerous rhetoric. That's why we should ban all 24/7 news media especially reactionary.
DeathLemons
No religion until 18
johnvictor
Agreed.
BrdCdn
New media like Reuters where it's just old school this happened here with no commentary is fine. It's the reaction and opinion pieces.
johnvictor
Was more eluding to the 24/7 cable news channels. AP and Reuters aren't perfect but they're more journalistic than that trite.
Altanese
detransition stories are most often from the point of view of parents. Makes one wonder how many of them just forced their kids to stop 3/
Altanese
transitioning with some cold, heartless, and downright cruel control over their lives.
LadyTaylor
Also, they happen only roughly 1% of the time, most people who transition stay that way