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Evolution of the sound.
Jan 31, 2022 3:04 PM
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Canofminus
Will Oldham keeps it real https://youtu.be/uwYEJUc__ms "If I could fuck a mountain, Lord, I would fuck a mountain."
ForRohan
StankPitSara
I always thought country music was about your dog dying because he jumped out of the truck your wife took when she left you.
Gwego
That reminds me of that Key & Peele skit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnUJzueBOQ
byohzzrd
Gin: When ya wanna drink Pinesol but are weak.
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
You forgot about jeans, Mason jars, and trucks.
StormWinterwind
They actually did remember trucks.
SadisticLeisure
Country music tomorrow: My cybertruck done gone left me. Drove away on its own.
hodorgoestomordor
You'd probably be surprised to find out that the top 10 country artist in 2021 are probably all Democrats... but that's no fun right?
titusandronacus52
C'mon, it's whiskey, not gin. What is this gutterpunk?
PENlSMAN
Cows go moo, trucks go vroom, guns go moo, what does the fox say?
Datnorwegian
What does the fox (news) say
ObiWanKenobitch
Country pre-9/11 = good. Country post-9/11 = pop/rock nationalism with a banjo. Toby Keith is a good example of that.
Nunyajonesinc
You mean Nashville pop. That trash isn't country music. Still lots of great country being made. Sturgill Simpson, Charley Crockett, etc.
Edowyth
It's funny because many of these people appear to believe that pop is better ... when it's just country pop in the first place.
MattyMakes
I tell you, 9/11 was a Hell of a drug for Country. A poison pill that (nearly)everyone took
Ialwayslookhungover
Might i recmend Sturgill Simpson or The Drive-By Truckers?
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
yup. I like American Aquarium also
Ges2ika
Country radio is what happened to country music. There are fantastic artists out there still making great new music. Check out Mickey Guyton
Jak8714
'I pour rocket fuel into my truck, to outrun the cops, cause I don't give a fuck.' Writing lyrics is hard...
igglebotato
Broadly. Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEx0T96nkPc
igglebotato
But counter-counterpoint, Corb's biggest hit is about trucks. Not the usual way but still. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDY6bWT5oTM
Mack1986
Country music now mostly sounds like rap so thats also wrong. The 2000s country was rhe Larry the cable guy patriotic bullshit
picklemunkey
You just gotta know where to look. Colter Wall, The Dead South, and Tyler Childers have been making some great stuff.
AustinL082
I also like Warren Zeiders.
silentwolf1999
Give me Glen Campbell on a backwoods TN road anyday.
CyriousLordofDerp
And infidelity. LOTs of infidelity in modern country music.
Gigas85
Just gonna leave this here... https://youtu.be/WySgNm8qH-I
irvingb01
I watched that with the sound off. Did I miss anything?
YesmynameisGreg
All country songs are the same and you can mix and match by the measure and it will line up. That's all.
Illithidbane
Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o
Gigas85
Lol I find county music is best enjoyed with the sound off.
MutteringMisanthrope
pdarkfred
I mean, c'mon: "There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes,
Jesus Christ died for nothin' I suppose." You gonna hear that today?
tossabeertoyourwitcher
https://youtu.be/OlofnxJxMIQ
pdarkfred
(Much respect to all the indie country musicians of today and folk and bluegrass people doing it up since forever)
laiskamato
Never heard the song, googled the lyrics and now i'm not so sure if i want another sad, sad tale on my playlist. Worth it?
laiskamato
Last time i did this i ended up with Mad World (or The Standfield's Run on the Banks, which is a gut punch) not sure. :D
pdarkfred
Both excellent, sad but very real and political, important song I'd say.
tossabeertoyourwitcher
John Prine is fantastic, & he has more upbeat stuff. I love 'In Spite of Ourselves,' & 'Your Flag Decal Won't Get You into Heaven anymore'
pdarkfred
Absolutely!
Maxgaap
Gin? Moonshine, bourbon, beer, whiskey I would expect to hear those called out, but I don't recall gin being called out in a country song
WhiskeyRiver2
Turnpike Troubadours, Gin Smoke & Lies.
Whistlenut
Misery and Gin -- Merle Haggard
orbitn
OK what about absinthe
onlyhalfghost
absinthe has generally been a more urban spirit. Probably been called out by a metal band instead
titusandronacus52
damn, that's a good one
Maxgaap
I completely forgot about that one
thegregorious
Probably because of all the gin
Canofminus
Ooh Las Vegas - Gram Parsons. "Well, the 1st time I lose I drink whiskey, 2nd time I lose I drink gin, 3rd time I lose I drink anything 1/2
Canofminus
'cuz I think I'm gonna win!" 1974 2/2
Illithidbane
Pandering. https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0
SomeGuyWhoJustDoesntGetIt
Greatest country song ever written
Like2Fox
Fuck your ears, I'm pandering
InternetAnonymityplz
It's a fucking scarecrow again!
dirtyketchup
“Y’all motherfuckers ready for a key change?” ???
dirtyketchup
No shirt. No shoes. No JewssssStrike that last one…”
MarlenaWatches
"sort of a mental typo..."
CabNumber1729
Theeeere it is aaagain, that funny feeling.... that..... wait what are we doing
GlitterValentine
Orville peck coughs in the background
tossabeertoyourwitcher
I love the sound but man he needs to pick up the pace in a lot of his songs
SmokyDoggg
graehall
Absolutely amazing pandering. Just platitudes in both the instrumentation and vocals.
KawaiiInari
Oof
sandwiches
Full video?
SmokyDoggg
https://youtu.be/FY8SwIvxj8o
SmokyDoggg
orbitn
i hate that this is so spot on
Frederf
Fireflies popping? That sounds horrific.
IReallyNeedToKnow
Sauce?
SmokyDoggg
Sir Mashalot on YouTube https://youtu.be/FY8SwIvxj8o
Barkinsons
German country music has always been like this, the same 5 songs recycled ad nauseam. Usually works well with people over 70
DanaConti5
It’s not like traditional folk music, it’s like American country?
SmokyDoggg
Today I learned there's German country music
Barkinsons
Some things better remain hidden from the world
Mehlbox
1980 German country band "Truckstop" - now you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3xSow3vWVk
iamthisguy247
All I know is I keep hearing some guy singing about going to Applebee’s and Wendy’s. Like is he sponsored by them?
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
When you hear any millionaire mention a corporation, the default assumption should that its paid advertisement.
Letmelookatpictures
I know right? Like any of them would ever be caught dead at either establishment
HedonistBeard
Or "free" advertisement, like how imgur is free to users. Someone sure is paying someone, but the relationship may not be all that direct.
orbitn
yes. Wait till you hear about the trucks
JLB36602
Wait Applebee's and Wendy's serve trucks now?
orbitn
... yeah sure why not
iamthisguy247
hamberglar
Country music has incredibly liberal foundations of anti-establishment, anti-authority, and anti-elite sentiments. How did we end up here?
hysteriacarrot
What? How do you get from liberalism to "anti-elite" and "anti-authority". I think you're confusing liberal and libertarian.
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Money
martineb72
The 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s all had the Nashville pops and the grittier alternative.
B99Reactions
Inbreeding?
unluckyandbored
They figured out they could make more money writing twangy pop songs to appeal to suburban white folks
JunkMonk
foundation was good, but its base was a bunch of easily impressionable dummies
myg00
Inbreeding?
xmaneds
answer: usually fascist dictators pretend to be populists, "of the common man," sticking up for the little guy. that's how.
xmaneds
this exact playbook obviously worked to bring both Hitler and Mussolini to power. obviously it is very popular with 30+% of Americans trump
TheFishFace
Those sentiments have all been coopted by Republicans
MechKelly
Record companies.
yoyo42
They still want those things for themselves but they want to be in charge of everyone else at the same time.
hodorgoestomordor
Because it's an industry that's run mostly by white men... therefore, people with no knowledge assume it's racist.
blaghart
same way Punk, Hiphop, Rap, Rock and every other musical genre with its roots in black music did: whites co-opted it
MisterMarblesFoibles
Woody Guthrie anyone
Soggybathroomsock
Fellow traveller, to say the least.
seannikiforuk
This machine kills fascists
libaf
I mean... there are nazi punks. Nothing is safe from the fuckers.
BillyBabel
Same way MLK has been used as a cudgel against black ppl, capitalism co opts all leftists movements to preserve itself.
mcfuckstick
iver the last 40 years elites have taken control of most media, "news" and government policy making. oh was that rhetorical?
GrandPubabofMoldistan
9/11 and the cultural death that happened in the early 2000z. Country music got the worst of it but culture was changed a lot
benreilly10
Racism, the GOP's political culture war strategy, AM radio, fox News, and opportunistic evangelical leaders.
gradeD
It's all too easy to forget just how revolutionary Limbaugh was. The man filled more minds with hate than almost anyone in history. If 1/
gradeD
there were a hell, he'd be roasting in the very bottom of it. 2/2
benreilly10
Yep.
BaronSpaghetti
Racists.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Money!
FizzleBurger
"Creating Country Music" by R Peterson implies that white nationalism is also a part of its foundation. https://youtu.be/kBD1AYOMqmE?t=262
FizzleBurger
That is, Peterson never explicitly SAYS white nationalism, but Ford was clearly in that ballpark (see timestamped video above).
Ironferrox
Was hoping it was sideways’s essay on “spoken word” and how historically white version of black genre is the moment it becomes acceptable as
Ironferrox
Popular. Was rap constantly played on top 40 before Eminem? Was r&b top 40 before white, boy bands co opted the sound. Disco sucks was
Ironferrox
Literially a backlash over the one time black music dominated the charts Elvis was at first hated because he sang black music then he made
Ironferrox
It profitable and therefore acceptable every time a black genre becomes popular is because a white guy made it acceptable by proving its
ReaperCDN
When money controls your government, private interest takes over to the detriment of the populace. Take a look at the parallels between /1
ReaperCDN
the progressive movement of the 1900s with Teddy Roosevelt and see just how much lines up identical to today. It's fucked. 2/2
ReaperCDN
To be clear: it's still the same fight, 100 years later. That's how fucked.
ImGoingToGoFallAsleepOnABench
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot This isn't the first time wealthy conservatives orchestrated a fascist coup.
ReaperCDN
Thanks!
hardytardigrade
The pro-white parts were fed while the other parts were starved
JayEnfield
And this is how the Nationalist wing of the GOP is now dominant over the fiscal conservatives, farmers, and evangelicals.
Housemaster
The same thing that happened to the progressive teachings of Jesus.
Kappa043
You... do understand that the right wing is all three of those things, right? Like, that's their number one, two, and three priorities.
TopCommenter
1 The side primarily backed by fundamentalists is anti-establishment? The "back the blue" side is anti-authority? The side that consistently
Kappa043
Christian fundamentalism is no longer mainstream/establishment. And we saw on J6 they only back cops when it's convenient.
TopCommenter
2 goes for tax cuts to the rich is anti-elite?
admweirdbeard
Republicans
Reisgar42
Toby Keith leaning into nationalism post 9-11.
hamberglar
Thought experiment: Try to even imagine a blues song about how working at Amazon is super great and that the police are your friends.
DooksandPooks
Imagine Billie Holiday singing a song about how well the government treats black people.
Sholk7
Blues fans and Country fans are often on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
DevonGronka
It depends on how you define "blues" and "fan". For example, Eric Clapton is a friggin racist antivaxxer.
jstraw731
Eric clapton also just ripped off the blues. And let his kid fall out a window and die
stevensls35
Blues is entirely Separate from Country, in fact by design.https://www.leisurebyte.com/netflix-explained-season-3-episode-13-recap/
hamberglar
The kind of country I'm specifically referring to, Outlaw Country, has its roots deeply embedded in blues music. My point is that at some
hamberglar
point that commonality changed and outlaw country and its blues roots would probably fall flat with modern fans for being "anti-american".
Bezaid
That series is so good.
martineb72
Chris Stapleton is both. Much of bluegrass can fit in both. Outlaw country of 60s and 70s had blues tendancies.
ctriis87
Isn't all proper blues about how bad [insert thing] is, regardless of what "[insert thing]" is?
Hevach
That's literally where it gets its name from.
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TheLastBootyBender
Be specific, Irish? Scottish? Canadian? Polish? German? Which one is appropriating another's culture?
TheFishFace
You could phrase that as "cultural transfer" or "borrowing" without the baggage.
irvingb01
I'm pretty progressive but I've yet to be convinced about this "appropriation." Humans don't live in cultural silos, nor should we.
busterfixxitt
At a guess, fear. Started as a response to the hippie movement. Then tied itself to the moral majority -> neoliberalism->9/11->authoritarian
Throwawayheyya
9/11
unluckyandbored
Country went to shit before 9/11.
muddiekins
We'll put a boot in your ass; it's the American way
Harryteeters
Freedom costs a Buck o' Five
THESHADOWOFJECT
unfortunately this is true. country swayed hard right following 9/11. Toby Keith being a part of it.
HiVizDiver
Yup, the idiotic Lee Greenwood song was only popular on/near military bases until after 9/11, when it became the second national anthem. ?
williamrichards
1. You didn't. Modern country music is literally about nothing. It's gone through the exact same transformation that other genres have where
williamrichards
2. corporate interests have stripped away any possible messaging because messaging might offend somebody. It's turned into tractor-core pop
RedClaws23
"Modern music [lacks] any possible messaging" sounds a lot like you're old and afraid of lyrical analysis
TheMouseOfMadness
Reagan... it kinda snowballed from there
PhotonicBoom
Truth
DirtyFiveThirty
More like Nixon, he started a message that Reagan took ahold of.
LizardEnterprises
No it was before Reagan. Consider the asshat who set fire to John Denvers CMA award in 1975.
MarisFreeborn
Or the 1957 DNC. Or the existence of Dixiecrats. Or hell, The Civil War.
CubbyPawws
If you go back to the Civil War might as well go back to the Constitution and the 3\5ths compromise but thats not quite where the modern
CubbyPawws
Right turned to an alliance of evangelicals, faith voters , and white supremacists which has affected how modern country got to where it is
MarisFreeborn
That far back, I'm thinking white supremacy was baked into the deal (along with old white rich men being in power) bc old white guys who 1/
CubbyPawws
Its obviously more complicated than this, but Reagan IS essentially the right answer.
TheMouseOfMadness
yeah, that's just not a bunch of stuff any of us want to get into with 140 char limits
BatsArentBugs
The judges saaaaay, yes! Yes we can accept “Reagan” as the correct answer. Jeff, you turn.
RocksNSocks
Maus, is that you?
TheMouseOfMadness
sorry, no. I've had a dozen or so rodent related usernames over the years but never Maus