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There will be a projected 350,000 nurse shortage by 2026, and now the Trump Department of Education has put a limit on how much nurses can take out in loans for their education. At the exact time the administration should be making funds available, they are strangling them off instead. https://www.statesman.com/news/article/nursing-no-longer-professional-degree-21198671.php
darthbiscuit
I’ve worked in the nursing field for 30 years nearly and you know why they’re doing this? I live in the podunkinest part of a very red state yet have met very few conservative nurses. Education breeds liberalism. And nursing is frankly one of the few college level jobs that’s 1: available everywhere and 2: has paid internships. (Clinicals)
ReverseSyzygy
https://www.newsweek.com/nursing-not-professional-degree-trump-admin-11079650
JangleWank
The jobs that they are excluding are primarily women dominated fields. All part of the horrific plan
Sorrontis
Well, that's gonna be even more deaths. Good luck, and God speed.
Koriania
When the suffering is the point, what's a little indirect murder between friends?
DrDeadReckoningExtraordinaire
There’s >ALWAYS< been a nursing shortage (take my word for it), especially in deep rural areas. This is only going to exacerbate the issue. I
vapingvegancrossfitter
I'm currently in school for respatoury therapy and will be graduating in June 2026. I really hope pushback for future nurses and people like me that are in respatoury. In my area there is a 1-2 year wait to get into the RN program. If this happens I really feel bad for the future people trying to get in Healthcare. I myself rely on the grants and loans and without them I would be stuck in a dead end job... Guess they want everyone sick, dying,, broke, dumb or dead.
JohnSmithterms
Now you get it. These people do not a well educated population. Those are difficult to controll. And features like having healthcare tied to your job is leverage. Nothing more.
Sturdycrotch
Respiratory*
And yes, they want mentally and physically weak populations. They think they're easier to control that way.
thatgirlfromthatplaceyouwentonetime
D. All of the above. This makes me sad all day.
RetrogradeLlama
Anything to kill education.
thedudeman519
People*
MAGA is a death cult.
sfrinlan
What the fuck, there's already a nursing shortage.
orp0piru
You are far more likely to die of conservative policies than terrorism.
NotaCPA
Canada is actively recruiting American nurses... My medium-sized town has brought in 20 US nurses and 5 doctors this year. More will come and America goes more shithole
MeatyNoodle
I’ve wanted to live there since I was a kid, anyway! But the Oilers… 😜
NotaCPA
.....yeah, I understand. But the Canucks do pretty good sometimes and the Habs are pretty good....leafs suck
MeatyNoodle
Agreed! I’d still be thrilled, though. Hard to be sad when you’re watching hockey night in Canada.
JacaByte
This is utterly baffling, there's no benefits to doing this for anybody as far as I can tell
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
Same for clinical mental health counseling
cgt9803
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the predominance of women in the profession /s
MeatyNoodle
And DEFINITELY not due to most the these professions being mandated reporters…Right?!
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
I think the bigger issue hear is why so many people are going into robot nursing
tsterling00
Don't worry folks. I am sure there will be enough medical professionals to take care of the rich. The shortage projection is just fear mongering from the plebs.
LinemanMatt
Boatsntoes
Who cares. None of us will have health insurance by then and won’t be able to afford a hospital.
Mxlespxles
LucilleWhoKnowsNot
Plus, don't forget, Canada is actually recruiting american medical staff.
LordHosk
Dear American Nurses:
The British Columbia Nurses Union has one of the strongest Unions in the country, their last contract they got a 3.25% raise the first year and a 6% raise the following two years. They are negotiating another contract this year and are expected to get a bigger raise.
To START, you get 20 paid days off per year and you gain more over time. Free Health, and Vision insurance, massage therapy is covered, $5000 relocation pay... https://bchealthcareers.ca/
psychicacid
Saving this as a possible exit strategy, ty
LordHosk
Be aware it takes like 6 months
NomadUniverse
Finding one way after another to keep the sick and poor sick and poor, that's all they fucking do.
hockey4mal8
JFC...we already don't have near enough nurses.
trhopkins
A catastrophic impact
SoopahFly
Alright, this is just stupid.
RElGNMAN
Trump is a Professional...
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DaierMune
Nurses are literally the backbone of our Healthcare system! Its almost as if they're purposely trying to destroy our nation.
FisheswithDynamite
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hungoveratworkguy
MAGAts will never be forgiven for all the death and hardships that befall on the whole world all because of their hatred and stupidity.
genepoolboy
It is a shame they can take off the hat
hungoveratworkguy
This is why Aldo Raine carved those swastikas into Nazis’ foreheads
MeatyNoodle
I’m in nursing school now, been trying since I was 19 to get here. I’m so glad that I’ve struggled for this long, to get this close, to watch it get (probably) ripped away. Again.
hungoveratworkguy
You keep going and you finish. So many of us are rooting for you to succeed. Don’t let these scrotum-sucking losers take this away from you.
MeatyNoodle
I will, and thank you!! I’m not about to let a tangerine-stucco-spackled, coochie-necked snatch grabber stop me from getting that degree!
hungoveratworkguy
That’s my dawg
sundaymondayhippyday
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drhorseturd
Keep going. We need you and we're all proud of you
MeatyNoodle
Thank you, Dr! I’m too damn stubborn to quit, I PROMISE.
Zeterai
Well obviously this is your own fault for choosing such a volatile, low-demand career as healthcare. You should've gone into the trades, or better yet just chosen to be born wealthy. Total skill issue not starting out rich, try harder next time.
But remember, there is no class war in the U.S.A.
MeatyNoodle
You’re right, I deserve this 🫠 (sarcasm)
sundaymondayhippyday
I heard this in Dumbvicts Orangs arsehole voice….
FartsSmellBad
It's like they specifically weigh where things are good or bad, and then do the bad things
Rogahar
Trump has done more damage to America than Russia has managed to since the Cold War. Almost like he's doing it on purpose. But that'd make him an agent of a foreign power, which I'm sure all the background checks and clearances would have found out before he was sworn into the highest office in the land. ...right?
dreammer243
Someone on here said something once: Whatever choice will result in more death, that's the one conservatives will pick. Always.
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
It really seems that way, but their impetus is usually just capitalist greed. Which goes to show that unchecked capitalism always leads to the most cruel and inhumane outcomes.
PerthAussieMike
They don't even seem to weigh them, they just implement bad things
thedudeman519
They're not considering good things one bit.
FartsSmellBad
Sure they look at the good, so they can know what not to do
Appollon
But why? Eventually people will notice things got worse for them.
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
That's when you invade another country. If the domestic war on minority groups is no longer sufficient to distract the working class while you rob them blind, you focus their anger on an external enemy. "They hate us for our freedoms! They tried to kill muh daddy! Deus vult!"
FartsSmellBad
That's why they have a built-in control to blame the "other". Always someone else who's really at fault.
sundaymondayhippyday
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TheThunderbirdRising
They want us all dead
4Astaroth
Of course. Trump works for Putin and he never changed his goal against the USA.
CyberHexx
That's the quiet part right now.
wejustdontknow
Barely quiet. Kinda silent like a fart in a car.
akafluffy
not even a silent carfart, like one of those that sounds like someone's revving a chainsaw for a minute straight and you're sure there's a skidmark bigger than your arm all up and down there.
SinisterDuff
The resources and elements the planet provides are becoming less, due to climate change...they don't want us consuming what they've " called dibs" on.
pumpactionsunshine
They do realise that if they take everything from The People, then The People will have Nothing to Lose...?
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
Schrödingers Pro-Lifer? Wants you to be born while don't want you to stay alive after.
tonehoundsmoser9
The feeling is reciprocal
BeatriceAine
I mean, you gotta understand, every dollar they give away is a dollar less for the poor billionaires. If some people have to die for Musk and Thiel to get their payday, it has to happen.
SocoFox
They also don't want brown people to be able to afford a nursing degree.
PolitiCat
This calls for self-defense.
jaecyk10
I think it's probably more simple than being part of some larger conspiracy to keep people sick. Most nurses are women. This makes it harder for women in general and poor women especially to accomplish something or be treated as a respected professional. Misogyny is part of the Republican platform.
MrOne2
I think poor and in debt is the goal. Dead people can't produce wealth for the .001%
thedudeman519
100 percent death cult.
I use to say it tongue-in-cheek once in a blue moon, but more and more it's highly evident.
ShearingBlizzard
They want to work us all to death and then turn our corpses into profit.
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
It’s a death cult, so yes, that is correct.
ValamirCleaver
That wasn't blatantly obvious 2020-2022?...
neo154
Not all. There must be some sheeps left to do actual work for them.
TheDiscoVampire
Around 2 billion is what they want.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Kinda your own fault for not being rich enough they want you alive. /s
hadan8088
No, just sick enough to totally depend on healthcare tied to a job.
RetroPulpMonkey
And so much of our healthcare system is powered by the labor, drive, and subsequent skill of our immigrants' children. Our public healthcare systems are going to be devastated winthin 1.5 generations.
georgejimmydoodle
It is a death cult after all
coffeegut
no they just want you to be a cornered wage slave with no alternative but a debtors prison. I'd argue that's worse.
ReverseSyzygy
No no...
They want you permanently sick and impoverished so that you must work all the time and lack the means to complain
ArdentSlacker
No, they'll fire you the minute your health makes you late for a shift. And then they'll sent the cops to evict you, and Gov Newsom will join them and rob you for being homeless.
Getting beaten to death just means they won't stop hitting you. Ever. If they wanted us to live in any capacity, there'd be a point where they said "we've done enough".
That hasn't been a thing for a long time, and it won't be a thing again, because people forgot that violence against the oppressor ain't optional.
TheGodlySka
Right, its newsom thats the thief and not the person literally known for grifting people and businesses you elected as president
akafluffy
it's both, Newsom being the next president would be Trump lite at best
ArdentSlacker
Exactly.
YouRadicalizedMe
Off with his head!
sascottsn
If nursing is out, but finance/business is still in, I hope linda mcmahon breaks every bone in her fucking body, and all the nurses caring for her know about this...
Taxicat
Pretty sure I saw accounting degrees on their hit list, too.
tylerlarson
Yeah. I love how the WHOLE PROBLEM that Trump/Republicans have with nurses is that they help people. If nursing was for assholes then it wouldn't be an issue.
Srsly not even joking: professions that are a net benefit to society are preferred by women and liberals because they more strongly value social good over personal wealth. Therefore, these are "liberal jobs" and therefore need to be attacked and destroyed.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Oh, dont be silly. She'll have access to private nurses. This is about punishing those uppity public sector ones
rubypilgrim
Theology is classed as a skilled profession, so she'll get all the thoughts and prayers she can handle.
DrNicholasRivierA
Exactly- stop treating Republicans "on religious grounds".
TakeAChillPill16
I think this whole post is actually exposing that most people don't understand the definition of a "professional degree." Most definitions are beyond a bachelor's degree - which is what nursing is (BSN = bachelor's of science in nursing). A professional degree is Masters (MS) or higher. This administration is awful for plenty of reasons, but this isn't necessarily one of them. A bachelor's shouldn't cost as much as a master's, that's why they're restricting lending limits.
Bignholy
Problem is, we need more of them. Anything that discourages more of them without a solid reason is a bad thing, especially in the face of the ludicrous money being thrown at things we don't need (like billionaire tax cuts and AI resource drains).
And if they cost too much, the solution is not to remove support for getting more, it's to investigate and, if needed, regulate the educational system producing them.
TakeAChillPill16
I would have to know more about the lending restrictions. Professional degrees, by definition, are degrees designed to take a minimum of 6 years or longer to complete. Most RNs have a bachelor's (BSN), some have a lower level associates degree (LPN). These are programs that are designed to take 4 years or less. That would be the solid reason to have higher lending limits for a 6 year degree than a bachelors. I'm not trying to disrespect nurses - they are professionals. 1/2
TakeAChillPill16
But the definition the education dept is applying is an academic one, not a vocational one. Part of this is just semantics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_degree
Bignholy
They also applied it to Educational and Social Work degrees. Also things we desperately need more of, and things they have traditionally tried to destroy for literal generations. Meanwhile, know what qualifies as professional for the higher cap? Theology.
Forgive me if I question the validity of their justifications, in the context of the last 10 months.
DoodleBug3279
Nursing degrees include masters and doctorate. And those programs can be very expensive. Those professions are also very needed. For example, good luck getting anesthesia for surgery almost anywhere in the US without a CRNA (a nurse anesthetist). Nurses also get higher education for nurse practitioner roles, as well as education and administration. And all of them are usually obtained through colleges of nursing at universities.
TakeAChillPill16
Right, but those graduating from those programs are Nurse Practitioners, who have prescribing privileges and are mid-level providers, one step below physicians. A Nurse and a Nurse Practitioner are two very different jobs.
DoodleBug3279
My point is that those seeking those degrees are now going to be forced into shitty private loans because this will affect them too.
TakeAChillPill16
People are upset because the implication in the post is that nurses aren't "professionals." But the definition of a professional degree is tied to the academic level of the degree, not the professionalism or the overall respect for the job of Nurse.
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TakeAChillPill16
That's another matter - in that most of the specialties you named aren't degrees, but certificates and/or specialties that are mostly covered by on the job training after graduation with a bachelor's degree. There are a handful of exceptions that are higher degrees such as Nurse anaesthetists and Nurse Midwives, but you're mostly naming formal or informal certificate programs, not specific degrees.
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sascottsn
Know what. I honestly don't care. linda is doing this because she's a terrible person, we have nursing shortages at all levels in the US, she knows this, and is making it harder for new ones to be trained.
So yeah, she can break every bone in her body, she can be in the hospital for years so that she's unable to do her "job". I hope every single person that treats her for the rest of her hopefully short life graduated last in their class and barely passed the nclex.