Jepalaudsadsin
88854
2004
39
Jan 10, 2019 6:17 AM
Jepalaudsadsin
88854
2004
39
PanochaPounder60001
@op you’re a woman right?
Mosely84
Can somebody forward this to GRRM?
warderbob
Someone send this to RR Martin
BenBarbarian
Who else read this in his voice?
theoneandonlynat
Anyone else bothered by uppercase R's?
Frogapus
I'd also recommend Stephen King's "On Writing," where he talks about writing like a craft, where you just keep working at it to get better.
Jepalaudsadsin
I'll do that, thank you!
IownoScifiDriver
How do we tag GRRM?
wadenelson1
Throw away that worthless first paragraph that adds nothing. Lead in.
RoutemasterFlash
The first two points sound a bit like Usain Bolt's guide to winning the Olympic men's 100 m: 1) Run 2) Run faster than anyone else.
lunchboxbilly
10 when you finish your book, no one will care. Most will be afraid you wil try to force them to read it, so theyll ignore your acomplishmnt
Jepalaudsadsin
Who hurt you?
lunchboxbilly
Im just saying Id never give up wrting for anything, but it can be an isolating hobby so I like to warn people
Lyrian
1 to 3 are the most important of these.
SpoonOfDoom
How to write, 1 to 3: Just draw the rest of the owl! 4 and onward: but seriously, here's some tips.
EndiaTheMisanthropist
melonlitter
I’ve been writing, but lately I’ve been focused more on my art. it makes me wonder if I’ll always fight actually writing, and if I enjoy it.
CotterPyke
i can tell you after reading like a million books, rule #8 tends to work. I've seen impossibly long sentences still work even if i had to 2/
CotterPyke
re-read them once or twice. And the thing he missed: Delete, delete, and delete! And never let it stop you from writing either. The gems3/
CotterPyke
are often re-formatted sentences that you find to be over-long. for that reason, save ALL drafts, use them as reference, but KEEP EM.
Brainlard
TBH this is quite shitty advice for writing. Most of those rules may work on a ten-page essay, but not a complex, 1000 pages fantasy novel.
CotterPyke
ANY advice is good advice. HS Thompson used to copy "The great gatsby" in long hand just to get a feel on how to write.
CotterPyke
BTW you fucking, fucking android shill, suck it.
Brainlard
Could you say that again without sounding like a 14 y.o. dickhead who overreached on his energy drink consumption?
HandsomeJack19
Lost me at "find the right word." If I could find the right words I wouldn't have a writing problem.
HappyClaymore
Im close to finishing what hopefully becomes my first novel. Seeing things like this on the fp helps keep me going.
Lyrian
Keep it up! I'm three books in here and it's a crazy high to be able to finish a project. You'll be chasing it again and again forever.
Jepalaudsadsin
Keep going!
CotterPyke
what's iot about?
rssplowman
When I used to write music, I followed much the same mindset. Always record when practicing/writing and jot down ideas if you’re not.
CotterPyke
what have you written and where on youtube it ?
rssplowman
Progressive rock dating back to the mid-90’s, so no YouTube. I’ve been looking at DAWs lately. If I pull the trigger and record, I’ll post.
FjordFiskursson
Make up stuff that didn't happen! Imagine lies, then write them down in order.
KiltedCurmudgeon
Was going to type something witty, dad joking or something, but this is good I needed this.
graehall
If you're writing a bit, and often, I strongly recommend Scrivener. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrivener_(software) It makes writing fun!
Kjuhaszzlenozzle
I read this in his voice. Speaking of which, he is a wonderful at reading audiobooks.
Kjuhaszzlenozzle
Neverwhere and The Graveyard Book are two of my favorites.
DisGonBGood
So soothing.
ElevenStarsOfChaos
My two faves “Ocean at the end of the lane” and “Neverwhere” I feel at home every time I listen to them.
fulham
I feel at home when I listen to Norse Mythology
ermahgerdberks
Listening to him read Norse Mythology is what I do when I need calm. I love it!
clide005
This reminded me of the rick and Morty lighthouse purge episode. Every time someone asks for my honest opinion about something they wrote
IAlwaysUpvoteHermione
Three weeks earlier...
LookYouStupidBastard
THE END .....................................?
PosthumousExile
He's been offed. He gave his opinion
MyParanoidSide
“Hot but doesn’t know it” I lose my shit at that part every time
clide005
Right... ha!
BackslashMforwardslash
Considering how Mr Gaiman clearly knows how to write, this is worthy advice.
HedonistBeard
Slight irony though in that he's basically telling aspiring writers what he thinks is wrong and how to fix it... probably intentional.
Jepalaudsadsin
I completely agree. He's one of my favorite writers.
AugustusMcCrae
My first experience with Gaiman was Anerican Gids which was good, but just good in my opinion. Years later I tried his other with and was
AugustusMcCrae
Blown away. He is a fantastic writer. *His other work* *American Gods*
doesntmatter
He's very able to write well, but that doesn't mean he knows how he does it ;)
valen00
He's probably got more of an idea than most though
Lyrian
There is a saying that goes something like: "You only learn to write the book you're currently writing." I wish I could find the original...
Smayds
As a signed-but-as-yet-unpublished little authorling, I agree. I'd like to add one piece of my own advice, if I may, building on rule 1:
Smayds
If you only write thirty words a day, well, that's thirty words that didn't exist yesterday. Keep at it. It's hard, but you're harder.
Glen69
Fuk yea I'm hard right now
valen00
Well given what I've written is mostly erotic friend fiction yeah that's accurate
Smayds
Hit me with a link ;->
valen00
I would but this whole post would get banned, twice
agermanguy
#9 don't write, its trash and nobody wants to read that.
IamMadeOfShamrocks
Plenty of trash out there has made people millions. 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight to name just 2 examples.
Baeloro
Which is why reading and writing are overrated.
Babbaganoosh
I'm an avid reader and, my God, 50 shade of Grey was the biggest heap of twaddle I've ever read. It was an exercise in poor penmanship
IamMadeOfShamrocks
Got any good book tips?
debatem1
Upper right corner is my favorite. I turn pages there, and you never know what's on the next one.
Babbaganoosh
Only popular because of the "sexy" scenes. But these are vapid and quickly become repetative and formulaic. She over uses and repeats
Babbaganoosh
Descriptions and character traits to the point that they become irritating rather than endearing. The plot is silly and the characters
Babbaganoosh
Are cold and unlikable. But it's the actual nuts and bolts writing that annoyed me. It's clunky and lacking any of the beauty or thrill of
debatem1
I figure, if you're good enough to make a living writing you're probably pretty good at it.
criablelurst
What if your friends and family don't bother to read it at all because they're too busy, don't like the content, or simply can't be bothered
CrazyCatLad
I printed out a ~300 page book that I wrote (medieval low-fantasy) for my parents for Xmas. They both love reading but never read it.
ElbowdeepinElmo
Write a blog or look for communities to release short stories / samples and ask for feedback
mattihase
Kill your friends and replace them with new ones. Be clear to show them what happened to your old friends to properly motivate them.
debatem1
Although killing them is bad for business, this is otherwise great advice for editors.
tarquinious
Once I was happy, I just published on Amazon (free) and sent friends/family a link to download it. Incorporated feedback and updated later
tarquinious
Yes book was not 100% when first published, but was free download and made it easier for friends to access.
criablelurst
Interesting
criablelurst
This is the situation I am in. I wrote a book - it's been sitting there for two years waiting for some feedback, no one has read it. In fact
valen00
What's the subject man, I like a few flavours of book.
criablelurst
Sci fi, it was meant to be comedy, but it accidentally turned a bit more serious. I need to go through it really, make a lot of editing and
criablelurst
add some more general dross to pad it out (that means, background information and character development) :)
criablelurst
given all the support I've provided my family over the years, they're really pretty shit for not giving me any.
debatem1
I'll read it. I love unedited book smell.
Lyrian
I write as a career, and expecting your family/friends to read your stuff is a bit useless, since they are likely not your target audience.
Lyrian
You are better off finding a group of potential fans on the internet, and getting beta readers to go through it and give you feedback.
criablelurst
Probably a good idea.
PeterPanGuineaPig
Possibly find a book-reading/aspiring-writers group (aka new friends for this very purpose). They can give actual editing feedback too.
criablelurst
Maybe, but probably not ready for randoms to read it. I need to read it again myself, after all this time might feel fresher!
PeterPanGuineaPig
After two years, I'd say so! And maybe if you do find a group, then by the time you finish editing, they won't be randos anymore. :)
Xedi22
Just dive in: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestructiveReaders/ (You have to critique others first. But its all high effort. Read the sticky!)