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Is this how normal feels??
Growing older with something like this unchecked and many depression episodes, I developed different strategies to handle daily life. Meditation and calming exercises became daily routines. I thought I became a very calm person overall. But only on the outside.
I always knew that this chaotic beebrain of mine isn't quite normal. But while the medication lasts I can see everything completely different. A mind free of constant chaotic thoughts, instead it's one coherent train of thought that I can switch willingly. The constant intrusion of negative thoughts that bombard me when I'm in public or making a mistake aren't there either.
I play the guitar and can continue after making a mistake (as opposed to being blocked by thoughts and emotions). I take the bus and don't get stressed and a strong heartbeat because I might miss it (Or miss the exit). I'm not constantly checking out every single person around me and it doesn't stress me to sit in a public place. I have written this post without getting lost in three other train of thoughts, two memories and while ignoring all the people around me. I cannot believe this.
This is a kind of inner calm I've only experienced a few times in my life. This is tranquility.
Sharing this with you fucks because there aren't any people in my life who could understand. And I know for a fact that there's a lot of people with the same or similar problem here.
EDIT
Well hot damn boys (and girls)!
That's a ton of response. I expected to lure out the aliens among us but didn't expect this massive influx of messages. It's well past my bed time and now off meds I found it curious to see how I feel really stressed out about all this these past two hours.
I'm sorry so many of you have to suffer so bad. Believe me, I know. I hope more people find the help they need.
I just wanted wanted to say: Thank you all for writing and telling your experiences! That's exactly what I hoped and it makes me quite happy to see so many similar people here.
itsallinyourhead
Love you, dude! That was my first experience on a prescribed amphetamine … “OMFG! I wonder if this is what normal feels like?!?”
dreikommavierzehn
Just amazing right? I wouldn't want that all the time. It just opens a lot of new possibilities to organize things and be around people
jjsjosCreator
i was in my mid 20s and it was like the limitless pill for me. i always thought i was fine then got on a adhd medication, blew my mind.
jjsjosCreator
still can't believe i did it without for so long. sure i did it but now it's way easier, way less stressed and angry.
dreikommavierzehn
Exactly like I wrote: I thought I was already super calm, but with the meds it was a whole different level.
jjsjosCreator
yea it's night and day. i went 5 years with zero meds snd firmly against them, 180° about turn. best chpice i ever made, I'm a far better
jjsjosCreator
man, boyfriend , employee and all round happier. even killed my depression 5 fucking stars
dreikommavierzehn
I'm very glad for you!
jidar
took me until I was 40 fucking years old
qt47aqzahj2
35 for me. Multiple Dr’s asked me “how… how do you function?” I didn’t make it passed pleasantries before an informal diagnosis was made.
dreikommavierzehn
damn, but I mean appearently you found people that listened to you? That's great! My issue was, that I learned to be a chameleon
dreikommavierzehn
How lead you to a diagnosis?
Lurkerdraegon
Yeyyy welcome to the club!!! Congrats on domesticating your wild brain! Wee
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?
Taxicat
ADHD people basically evolved to be the human equivalent of Border Collies: we’re supposed to be constantly mentally and physically >
Taxicat
>active, but our current environment doesn’t allow for that most of the time, so medication helps meet our brain’s need for >
Taxicat
>a ridiculously high level of stimulation so we can function easier. Like a machine that only works at maximum output, and nothing less.
dreikommavierzehn
Yeah and a tank that goes empty almost instantly, but only refills under special circumstances. I saw a talk today by George Cicci, he >
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talked about when we are in the activity but the brain starts blocking, what we often do is stop and have a hard time picking it up again >
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because the initial stimulus is gone. But right before we stop there's an inner struggle, a want to shift focus and supressing that will >
AntTrapHouse
Yeah microdose meth about it!
WigglesTheHoly
I am afraid to try ADHD meds. I have learned to work with the bee brain. I'm afraid if I get on meds I'll not be as successful.
dreikommavierzehn
There's actually many people that found a successful way of channeling their abilities. The most important factors for those are a good >
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social support system and some way of finishing education or getting into entrepeneurship. Jobs that require creativity, where you can work>
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in phases or where you have a good team that helps you stay on track are all good for adhd people. From writing to academia and management
dreikommavierzehn
If you are curious about the meds: Methylphenidate only lasts for a couple of hours. After that beebrain comes back slowly. People like me >
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find help through that to migitate the anxiety and deal with stressful situations or start and keep doing mundane tasks (cleaning, work, >
FeChefImgur
How did you manage to be able to do calming and m editation exercises ?
dreikommavierzehn
Great question. I figured everyone would have the same problems as me and thought it be normal. It started at 16 when I couldn't sleep >
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anymore due to my chaos and started with a relaxation technique and very quiet ambient music (SomaFM). It works, because the brain is busy >
dreikommavierzehn
trying to hear the almost silent music and the relaxation technique shifts the focus to the body. But it's a constant back and forth
dreikommavierzehn
Later I got in touch with meditation teachers and tried their technique. It's pretty basic but what really made the difference was when they
dreikommavierzehn
told me to accept whatever comes. So you relax and go to your thoughts, try to empty by not forcing anything and just accept whatever >
EmpathicWon
Finding the right doctor, and going through medications until you find the right one can be a nightmare. Finally getting it right? Amazing.
spadinaaa
It really is. I always wonder how different my life would be if I was diagnosed at a younger age
dreikommavierzehn
I do too. But then again, there's no real awareness for adhd in my country. Knowing what I know now, the kids are being handled in a wrong >
dreikommavierzehn
way and well, adults don't have it anyway. So university or job doesn't care about that anyway
dreikommavierzehn
It's unbelievable. Medication against depression didn't help me at all few years back. But this is a gamechanger
kickmyballsrealhard
Lemme guess, adderall? I’ve been on it for 13 years. I was diagnosed at age 5 and was on Ritalin before switchin over to adderall in college
dreikommavierzehn
It's Ritalin right now for me. Why did you switch? Did it help you in college managing workloads/stress?
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
Ritalin was also the med that helped me!
pygmypufftrampstamp
Concerta for me. Basically Ritalin but slow release. Huge game changer.
dreikommavierzehn
That's good. Were you able to improve things with it?
ironiccomment
I took adderall for a while until we realized that it was making me very aggressive. Apparently they call it madderall
dreikommavierzehn
holy crap. Honestly in all these years (before meds), controlling bursts of anger was the hardest lesson
tyrsfavoritesword
Common side effect
BlahBlahBlacksheep555
Does it works better than antidepressants? Any side effects? There always seem to be sexual side effects with any antidepressant meds.
dreikommavierzehn
Side effects I cannot tell yet. Antidepressants vs. ADHD med however: The one I currently have supposedly doesn't affect depression much. >
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Although obviously if it helps overcoming problems in combination with therapy, depression can be overcome like this as well. I have taken >
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antidepressants before, without therapy and it didn't help me at all. Because my issues were clearly from ADD, so the extra energy from >
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the meds felt worthless while having the negative side effects on top of it. WIth my current doc I'm willing to try a combination of ADHD >
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meds and antidepressants however. Whatever he will recommend me
PrepareYourAnusAgain
How did you get the help / drugs? I may require this... becuase, fuck if I can string a thought along for more than 5 minutes at a time 1/?
PrepareYourAnusAgain
without swatting away another 30 that are trying to intercede... Maybe I need to try some of this to see if this is why I'm me...
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dreikommavierzehn
But also look for a therapy. The meds won't make it go away, the syndrome is chronic. You need strategies to learn and live with it
Furverus
SAME! SAME!!! I got on it at 30 and holy shit! Do I notice a difference.
dreikommavierzehn
I opens a new door. :)
DrewSf29
One side affect it has for me (35M) is i get super horny randomly. Ill get tons of work done and then run to go jerkoff in the bathroom
dreikommavierzehn
Sounds like a disaster if combined with meds that inhibit orgasm
markthomasc31415
My doctor said at my age I can't take them. I miss being attentive and skinny.
ponynamedpony
How old are you and why did your doctor say that at your age you can’t take them? Just curious what the doc said it would do.
dreikommavierzehn
Because of blood pressure? How is being skinny related, if you don't mind me asking?
Ayrheaded
I tried almost all of the adhd meds on the market when I was in my late teens to early twenties. My brain does not work well with them.
dreikommavierzehn
what happened?
Ayrheaded
Long story short, anxiety and depression on some, anger and irritability on others. The anxiety turned permanent even without meds.
dreikommavierzehn
Thanks for the response!
TheCrispiestNoodles
I can’t even fathom not having the chaotic train of thoughts that I have. It sounds like it would be nice, but impossible.
dreikommavierzehn
Exactly what I thought when I read about it from others. Yet here we are :)
qt47aqzahj2
I’m on 2 meds and I’m still there. At least now I’m better able to recognize and manage. Though being in IT,ADHD can be a boon.
dreikommavierzehn
How? All my programming jobs were basically "how many tickets can you do in x time" - that just sucks with adhd. :(
ReadyPlayerTwoxx
Now try having done meth in your past and get your psychiatrist to prescribe you literally anything. He won't prescribe me anti-anxiety>
HundredsAnd100s
Have you talked to him about guanfacine or clonidine? They work for some people and aren't stimulating at all. I'm on a combination of 1/
HundredsAnd100s
guanfacine and ritalin because I don't tolerate stimulants well. In a way it's better than ritalin because it doesn't wear off. 2/2
dreikommavierzehn
That's an interesting combination. You don't want to wear it off at all? Can I ask why?
ReadyPlayerTwoxx
Meds or meds to treat my adhd. I come to him with real life complaints and issues and get treated like I'm trying to con him out of drugs.>
ReadyPlayerTwoxx
It's very frustrating. /endrant slash screaming into the void
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dreikommavierzehn
Fuck. Where are you from? I hope there are some organisations/groups that might be able to help you
lgnoramus
There are other options for medication other then stimuli. And other doctors that can help you with that. Substance abuse / addiction is a /
lgnoramus
problem for many people with ADHD. I talk from experience too.
boringpigeon
Use the meds to adapt and learn.
semiAnonymousMe
Are you me? 33 year old here who started wellbutrin this year. Highly functioning ADD, but boy does the medication help. I sleep so well.
thisisathingnow
I'm 30 and just got diagnosed. Day 3 of Wellbutrin, I am so hoping I'll start getting proper sleep out of this!!
dreikommavierzehn
Highly unfunctioning ADD here.? Reading the issues other people with high intelligence + ADD faced felt like reading my own life
FloriaFlower
I'm 36 and trying to get diagnosed and medicated. I've recently realized that I have ADHD inattentive type which is a burden as a programmer
dreikommavierzehn
It really is. I found it curious that people always told me programming is perfect for people with ADD ... like hell it is. Sure programming
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on your own in your own little hobby or when you can build your infrastructure to your desires is amazing. But actually working as a >
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software dev? That's hell. Because it's just the same monotonous crap all day every day. Yet another ticket for a button and if it takes >
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too long to be done, a surprise appointment with your supervisor suddenly pops up in the calendar.
dreikommavierzehn
Just because it needs more brainpower doesn't make it magically well suited for ADHD. What does work however is working freelance.
afatrollofmyown
Seems to me the "hyperfocus" part would work great with programming. Sometimes I get so into my art I forget to eat.
dreikommavierzehn
Sadly not like we would like to have it. I mean the hyperfocus drives us to one idea and then we follow that idea forever. Which often means
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reinventing the same thing over and over again. But you see, both these things are bad in 90% of programming jobs, where you have to get >
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stuff "just done" and nobody cares how you did it. It is absolutely great for anything related to art (like in your case). Anything that >
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profits from creativity, innovation, rethinking. Like music, math proofs, sometimes research work, writing, etc.
FloriaFlower
It would be nice if I could hyperfocus on demand but it only happens occasionally while the lack of focus or attention happens all the time.
tinbed25
If I may ask, what meds are you on OP?
dreikommavierzehn
The first one my doc wanted to try is Ritalin/Medikinet, which is Methylphenidate. Will try a different one in a month
fknbastard
Caution on any amphetamine salts. Long term effects could include the same ones as meth. Psychosis, paranoia, etc.
dreikommavierzehn
Well the thing with untreated adhd is that you basically have symptoms of psychosis, paranoia, anxiety, ... already and neither therapy nor>
dreikommavierzehn
antidepressants can change that in some cases
dreikommavierzehn
Like I mentioned the realization of being in public. I didn't even know that I had so much anxiety in me, even though therapists tried >
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
I've been on concerta (slow release Ritalin) for over 12 years and will probably continue for life. Those aren't inevitable side effects
isrslydunnoman
Dunno why you’re being downvoted. It’s literally legal meth.
dreikommavierzehn
Usually I take the joke but since you said "literally": It's not literally meth. It's something similar and as it often is with >
dreikommavierzehn
biochemistry, despite the similarity it has different effects. Adderall is much closer to Meth. Ritalin has very little side effects
originalmoomoo
16 years into this. Don't let them keep switching you. If you find one that works and you feel good on it, say so.
dreikommavierzehn
Alright, thanks!
MisterBin7
I would be careful. I was on ADHD medication and it started off as a miracle for me. Over the course of ~6 years, I started to see the neg..
MisterBin7
negative effects, which were severe. I won't go into all of that, but just please, be open and objective to how your mind changes over time
ponynamedpony
What negative effects?
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
I've been on them for 16 years. It's depends on the person.
dreikommavierzehn
hm, do you mean it affected your thinking when you were off meds? More intrusive thoughts? Difficulties concentrating with meds?
MisterBin7
It affected my thinking severely. I started going through manic periods and became addicted to pron. Watching it for several hours. For the
MisterBin7
longest time, it wasn't clear to me why I wasn't in control of that and it became a major personal battle. It wasn't until a few years in
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that I realized what was causing it and is a major reason for why I dropped it in the end. If you look up this topic on reddit, you will
beerbatteredkush
I diagnosed ADHD people for a while. Half of the patients were 40+ getting diagnosed for their first time. Life changing
HundredsAnd100s
I'm 49, just dxed, and have asked psychiatrists and therapists for 12 years if I might have it. Until last year every single one said no.
brassknucklenerd
There were a lot of missed diagnoses when we were kids, before "ADD with inattention" vs "ADD with hyperactivity" was a thing, and dx was >
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< largely outcome-based (which it kind of still is, but you have to suffer a LOT as an adult before a dx in some cases). If you're >
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< compensating hard enough as a kid and have your parents keeping you on track, hey you must not have ADD!
dreikommavierzehn
The horrible thing is that it also affects social situations so much, which often have to be endured
valen00
Inattentive is the big thing. Works ok if you are smart and in school. Doesn't work for shit in life.
afatrollofmyown
Can absolutely confirm. Did great in school til adolescence, and as an adult, can't keep a job to save my life "inconsistent results"
dreikommavierzehn
Holy shit, "inconsistent results" should be a banner slogan for adhd people
dreikommavierzehn
It's unbelievable. And I'm still met with docs that go "Adults don't have problems with ADHD"
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
Moving as an adult with ADHD is very hard. Many believe you are "fixed" and won't continue your prescription
afatrollofmyown
It's like ADHD expires when you hit 18, oh and lose your CHIP, very convenient~
Vaerosi
The first doc I saw about it said "you don't develop ADHD post partum" despite me describing issues since I was a kid.
Vaerosi
Second doc read the first doc's notes and said he agreed with all of them before we even spoke for the first time, then called me a liar.
dreikommavierzehn
Holy shit I'm sorry. I had the exact experiences with the first therapists/doctors I met (We didn't talk about ADHD back then though).
dreikommavierzehn
What I'm saying is: Keep trying. Maybe find a therapist that supports you or an organisation near you that could help you.
smashingkumquats
I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child and when I turned 18 decided I didn’t need it anymore. Big mistake. No doctor would represcribe me 1/2
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With it because they said it was just anxiety. My grades dropped and I couldn’t even hold a conversation with anyone. 2/3
smashingkumquats
This caused it hard to make and keep friends as I just avoided conversations as much as I could. I found myself alone and no one knew why3/4
smashingkumquats
Finally at 38 and after having a long time doctor that knew I felt off decided to trust in me when I told him my story and my previous 4/5
smashingkumquats
Diagnosis as a child. He prescribed adderall to me. Since then my relationships have improved and I have found purpose in my life. Thx doc
StabbyMcMurder
Yeah I'm 34 and tried my kids vyvanse the other day. It's wild what a change it makes. Makes me want to get my own prescription lol
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I am also tempted to do this, as I'm fairly certain I have the same brain he does.
dreikommavierzehn
Just talk to a psychologist experienced with adhd some time. It's likely he will find out for sure
StabbyMcMurder
I get by without medication but it would be nice to be able to function without umpteen trains of thought going on. It would also be nice to
StabbyMcMurder
Be able to stick to a hobby or be able to read through a long article without getting bored and forgetting about it lol
dreikommavierzehn
oh hell yeah. I stopped reading non-scientific material years ago because of this. Even that was too much at times and it was just a few >
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months ago that I finally succeeded to manage the stress of reading a few articles. I can stick to hobbies though, as long as I keep them >
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free of pressure (playing guitar just for myself; programming as a hobby instead as a job). What haven't you gotten a prescription yet?
dreikommavierzehn
I actually don't mind the trains of thought. They can be very useful for many things. But the negative thought trains? Oof...
deprove24
I've got other stuff from it being untreated for so long so I still struggle even with it but those close to me can tell when it's 1/
deprove24
in effect. I'm more clear-headed. I don't get defensive and angry. I can actually do things. I hate that I'm stuck with this but glad 2/
deprove24
it works the way it does.
dreikommavierzehn
That is exactly the problem I (and many others) face. When getting help so late in life, a lot of shit has accumulated. Dealing with that >
dreikommavierzehn
takes time, therapy and good support. It sounds like you're on a good path
originalmoomoo
Can confirm it works. HOWEVER... you'll find your body needs more as it becomes immune to that dose. You either have to go up on your >>>>
originalmoomoo
daily dose, which sucks, or get off ADHD med for around 5 days, which also sucks, for it to clear out of your body. Then go back on.
dreikommavierzehn
Thanks for that info. That is actually relief for me. Because I planned to have breaks from the start. I like the positives of my brain :)
dasklaus
I hear a lot about people who take it only on weekdays.
dreikommavierzehn
That's kind of my plan. To only take it for when I need to get some stuff done or my brain fog starts
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
I've been on the same dose for at least 6 years now. Yes, taking breaks *can* help but only if you can function (I can't)
dreikommavierzehn
I'm not functioning either - can't handle stress. How is it for you?
riplikash
A possible effect, but not guaranteed. I've been on the danger 15mg dose for 15 years.
tangojulietnevada127001
Beware, the medicine comes with a toll. Used Adderall for about 10 years. It definitely does shit to your brain long-term.
PilzFarm
If you hyper focus on tasks that aren't high priority, welcome to the world of ADD/ADHD people every single second.
lgnoramus
For people seeking help such a message can be very confusing. If you could go back in time, would you change it?
dreikommavierzehn
Can you tell in what way?
gloriaxstanley
I have been medicated since I was 10, I’m now almost 27, and have also added anti depressants and anti anxiety medication, as it really /1
gloriaxstanley
Can mess with the chemicals in your brain, I also tend to lose a lot of weight in it because I don’t eat, then when I don’t take it /2
lgnoramus
Not questioning, but are you aware that 2/3 of people with ADHD also have 1 or more other medical conditions, like depression, OCD, anxiety?
gloriaxstanley
Oh 100 percent, I got all the goods, my Brian is like a psychiatrists dream
gloriaxstanley
I eat everything in sight like my body is trying to make up for it. I will also sometimes hyper focus on tasks that aren’t high priority /3
dreikommavierzehn
This is odd. The goal of adhd medication is stop the hyper focus and allow shifting it on mundane tasks. Why is it for you that way?
gloriaxstanley
It definetly helps achieve the overall goal, but be aware of the symptoms and how to combat them, I waited 16 years before I finally spoke/4
exokortex
It increases my overall stress level, muscle clenching, etc. But I can't fucking adult without some stims. So I cycle with workload demand
dreikommavierzehn
That's odd, it's supposed to reduce your stress not increase it. What does your doc say about that?
friskydiglett
Adderall can mess with your dopamine levels if abused, but adhd meds can also help you discover other disorders. Use therapy first. Be happy
dreikommavierzehn
Therapist came first. Too much depression for happiness. Antidepressiva didn't change that - first dose of ADHD med did.
Jemmos
Yup, been on Dexedrine since I was 13, now 41. I am literally unable able to function without it. My dosage required is slowly killing me.
lgnoramus
For people seeking help such a message can be very confusing. If you could go back in time, would you change it?
dreikommavierzehn
Thanks for the great question!
Jemmos
Nope. Its my cautionary tale. You can become physically dependent on some ADHD meds, amphetamine-based ones you can develop a tolerance for.
dreikommavierzehn
Thanks for sharing your story!
lgnoramus
I understand what you say and I feel it's good to share experiences. Though people apparently often take things they read on the internet /
lgnoramus
far too literally or without nuances and it's good to be aware of that I think, as commenter and as reader. Opinions and experiences /
MaxReboBand
@OP what medicine were your prescribed? I need to change my current medicine
dreikommavierzehn
Currently Ritalin (Methylphenidate). Which one did you take and why are you changing?
magicmegaman
Personally I prefer concerta it's ritalin but it gradually released over time instead of one large dose
dreikommavierzehn
ah yes makes sense. My doc mentioned that for the future
originalmoomoo
You can ask for... and usually receive... slow release generic Ritalin. In fact Drs and pharms prefer it due to lower street value.
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
Ritalin was better for me than concerta minus the fact it didn't last long enough. Wait to see before changing! I wish Ritalin worked longer
dreikommavierzehn
Yeah I guess ~6 hours would be enough for me
MaxReboBand
Adderall, I've been on it for 10+ years, it stopped being as effective then I was put on Strattera, atomoxetine, for 2 years & 1/2
MaxReboBand
That hasn't worked at all I feel no different I wanted to give it a chance hence the 2 years & get to the full dose but it doesnt work so2/3
MaxReboBand
I'm looking for a new medication to try next. 3/3
dreikommavierzehn
Do you know why it stopped being effective?
qt47aqzahj2
I’m on both Adderall and Stratera. Both max dosage. I was advised to “vacation” from Addy when possible. Seems to help
EzraFell
I think I might need help with ADHD then.
iseepointycenterofareola
You can try blow before you get Adderall
dreikommavierzehn
I always knew I get addicted to shit way too easily. I politely decline any opportunity for that and wouldn't recommend anyone to try it >
dreikommavierzehn
over medication. The effect is obviously much stronger with devasting effects on the biochemistry
HiVizDiver
I keep thinking the same. At least ask my doctor about it.
NumptyDumptyLump
What is the drug?
mudmann1012
Do it! I got it at 36 and it changed everything.
dreikommavierzehn
So many of us! :)
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
I got it like OP, but some days are better than others.
Ifoundthething
Yeah hearing OP list their previous anxieties and thinking, "Oh shit dat me"... Welp
dreikommavierzehn
that's not even half of it ...
imbatman58
Make a second more detailed post? These are all me and I never put together how bad it is with depression combo
dreikommavierzehn
I could try. The hard part about this is to keep it short enough for reading ... maybe a series .. what age span is relevant to you?
dreikommavierzehn
placing a bookmark on your post to remember doing it
potentiallyunsafe
dreikommavierzehn
Why are you afraid of it?
TheFingerGunsGuy
Giving it a name. Like all things, it then becomes real, and, everything, everyone, All youve blamed, distanced from, was never the reason.
dreikommavierzehn
These things don't have to be exclusive. They are most likely all connected. I was afraid to give it a name, because I did so before and >
dreikommavierzehn
it was false. Which was quite the letdown to say the least. But now that everything confirms it, it's liberating. It brings hope
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
It is a pretty potent drug and prescription drugs have destroyed a lot of lives, so some apprehension is warranted.
dreikommavierzehn
Yes of course. Even though I'm a cautious/responsible person I still want accompanied therapy and a supervising doc because of that
dreikommavierzehn
All my life I heard it's "overdiagnosed", like every second problematic child. But I realise that the number of adults struggling with ADHD>
Krimzonbear
its been beating my ass so hard at work that im at the point of going to the doctor.
dreikommavierzehn
Please do. I've quit and lost so many jobs because of it.
lulitamae
I’m a 55 yr old woman and just diagnosed. Back in the 80’s, only boys had ADD or ADHD. Figuring out meds now.
dreikommavierzehn
I'm glad! Others pointed out that we need to keep an eye on blood pressure
md22mdrx
It IS overdiagnosed because is often MISdiagnosed or flat used for abuse. More specifically with adults & Adderall. Ritalin less problematic
md22mdrx
It obviously is very useful and necessary for some adults. I just see way too much being used to counteract narcotic side effects.
dreikommavierzehn
Ah yes that's true. I was thinking more about something specific to where I grew up. People made it seem as if every other kid in the 90s >
dreikommavierzehn
in Austria, that was just a little bit odd or active got diagnosed with it. Bad schools of your school system would just place them in a >
ThroughTheLookingGlass
I think I need help. N u r the reason im gonna keep my apt next month thank u
imbatman58
I read this as Apartment. Like 8 times.was like why.. Am I not getting this lol
dreikommavierzehn
Never put off health related appointments - good luck!
dreikommavierzehn
is way too high and for the most part ignored by society. There's much more visibility for it in the US than EU though.
NoLollygaggin
You just went to the doctor and told them how you feel or what? Was it a long process? I'm 27 and you just described my life.
dreikommavierzehn
ooooof ... that's a long story. When I was already in my late 20s, I had yet another heavy depression episode but for the first time found >
dreikommavierzehn
help. It seems you need to get damaged badly enough before people take you seriously. At this point I had so many problems, that most people
cptnjackharkness
I'm 2 years into the process. Still no diagnosis. Would love to hear the change on meds for motivation. Pm me if you can share.
dreikommavierzehn
No diagnosis? What process then? Therapy?
NamelessFacelessAverageJoe
What is the medication they gave you?
dreikommavierzehn
The first one my doc wanted to try is Ritalin/Medikinet, which is Methylphenidate. Will try a different one in a month
MrJimmyRustles
I'm on Straterra which isn't really a stimulant, it helps but I'm always worrying that I should try something else that could work better...
PicardNeverHitMe
How? I need it at 38. Always did. But I’m “just depressed”.
dreikommavierzehn
Try getting diagnosed at a diagnostic psychiatrist experienced with ADHD in adults
AndrewBrandon
Short but explaines most of the issues I've had with ADHD https://youtu.be/JowPOqRmxNs
dreikommavierzehn
He truly brings it perfectly to a point. Thanks for the link!
dreikommavierzehn
By now I've spent a couple of hours listening his lectures/interviews and reading up on some materials. That man is a hero - thanks!
bbnestea
I read that it Manifest different and women than it does men. And often people get missed diagnosed with depression and anxiety.
HavetsHerren
Exactly whay happenes to my friend. Feventually diagnosed a year ago, his life got so much better. But god his medicine is strong. Tried onc
Lurkerdraegon
If you are suspecting you have ADHD I strongly suggest u get evaluated, it literally has changed my life and how I viewed myself
Lurkerdraegon
It does! 32 diagnosed 3 months ago! I was day dreamer, clumsy, "unfeminine", forgetful, chaotic, impulsive child.
Lurkerdraegon
And now everything starts to make sense, I'm still trying out the med BUT you can tell there's something different
dreikommavierzehn
You could describe me like that too though, I'm male. :)
Nunyajonesinc
47 year old here. I'm facing a real conundrum. Stimulant based medications aren't the best thing to be on after 50, but without the meds my
gadaboutpoet
@FeralGhoulash
HundredsAnd100s
I'm 48, and on half methylphenidate, half guanfacine. I'm still at low doses of both but already seeing improvement. Might be worth checking
Nunyajonesinc
Thanks man I'll check it out
whygeorgiawhy
There are options other than stimulants. I can’t take them due to heart problems and my doctor suggested a few other but I haven’t tried yet
tinyfootprints
Anything vaguely like a stimulant provokes my insomnia. I need something but not anything that keeps me from sleeping.
OSCgal
Strattera is a non-stimulant ADHD med. That's what I take, because stimulants make me anxious.
tinyfootprints
Thanks! I hope it works well for you.
Gaylepod
Consider wellbutrin instead of adderall. It's a dopamine promoter that is less of a stimulant AND IT REALLY WORKED for me.
lgnoramus
I'm 44 and can't handle stimuli. I'm on Nortriptyline and it works lots better for me. It's one of the top choices for my psychiatrist /
lgnoramus
especially when ADHD/depression combination.
dreikommavierzehn
Thanks for the recommendation, will ask mine what he thinks about it
iamDinge
Bupoprion, aka Wellbutrin, is the one I have for non stimulant. Helps with focus, depression, and anxiety.
Nunyajonesinc
Life falls apart. I'd rather knowingly shorten my lifespan than live a life of chaos, disorder, and horrible internal monologues
dreikommavierzehn
I kind of like the beebrain and the chaos. Sometimes it's inspiration (in math&programming or with music). But I feel the horrible internal>
dreikommavierzehn
monologues. Countless hours tortured by my thoughts. And the hail of negative thoughts the can attack suddenly in daily life. I didn't know>
dreikommavierzehn
it came from ADHD and didn't expect it to go away with the medication
jermbly
Have you discussed non-stimulant options with your MD? There have been some real advances in ADHD meds over the last few years
pygmypufftrampstamp
Strattera is a non stim med that I've heard is effective, the one con is it can take a month to build up in your system enough to work.
dreikommavierzehn
My doc mentioned it but said it has too many side effects ?
dreikommavierzehn
I haven't read about any of that yet. Are you sure about the negative effects? Appearently it doesn't affect people with ADHD this way
OrneTTe
Taking speed everyday is never going to be good for your cardiovascular system
DanielRain
For people without adhd, but for people with its weird like overcharging your battery to make it run better but it works
Ryebread91
Still raised my heart rate and metabolism. Went off it a few years ago and gained almost 60 lbs.
Nunyajonesinc
It increases your blood pressure and heart rate
riplikash
I take it with blood pressure medication and my BP stays normal.
dreikommavierzehn
Alright, will ask my docs about it - thanks
valen00
Take a closer look at that btw. The studies I've been looking at say while there is a presumption that they do, in actual testing they/
valen00
don't seem to have much of an effect in healthy people.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
59 here. on Adderall for 14 years now and there's no going back. i refuse to live like that again.
Heavenissize17socks
Heavenissize17socks
#notgoingback
dreikommavierzehn
So you take it without breaks in your day/week?
ChickenChickenBurningBright
no breaks. if i miss a day I'm an anxious muddled mess. i don't take it so i can work, i take it so i can be calm, at peace all the time.
dreikommavierzehn
I see .. have you ever been in therapy? Did that change anything?
ifatreefallsintheforest
Dosage? I’ve been on it since 25 (am 33) and it skyrocketed my career.
HundredsAnd100s
It's good to hear someone starting this at my age. I'm 49, just started, and feeling really, really late out of the gate and lost.
ChickenChickenBurningBright
i spent 45 years not understanding why i couldn't function like other people. the last 14 have been like a rebirth. the past is done, but
ChickenChickenBurningBright
you now have a new chance to take control. get used to the changes with your meds, and the next few years can be amazing.
PhurbuMukpodom
That’s why I drink a pot of coffee a day...
ChickenChickenBurningBright
strangely enough, i can't have *any* caffeine or I'll be awake all night. Adderall, though, makes me sleep like a baby.