Aug 25, 2020 6:26 AM
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Frenchsweets
This post is absolutely bananas!
FailedCrate
Fuck the imperial system tho: https://youtu.be/hid7EJkwDNk
i13mel
Can we please take this time to switch over? It feels like the right time.
LabyrinthBuilder
theorsonwells
Uhhh are there not centimeter markings across the bottom?
FrogBotherer
There are 23 vegentitribananas to the banana.
extraDimensionalAnxiety
I like how it's marked with mm.
MyBigMouth
PhobianDarkmoon
We need to find a common item exactly one meter long and tell Americans to use that as their unit...
maskaya
The rest of the world hates that the US knows fractions
iamthecomet
I saw a massive giraffe statue the other day. I really should take a picture and post it.
NZSheeps
Come to Christchurch - there's about dozens scattered around the city https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/66078888/
JP8CantMeltSteelBeams
There are countries that use the metric system and countries that have been to the moon
OrdinarilyBob
Munchman347
It's in Centimetres, how is that U.S.?...
Xenarion
Those look like cm, no?
TheRelaxedCat
Inch of banana scale!
daathbeam
BananaForScaIe
Sup?
browsererror
No, that banana is marked in metric
Jaqdakloun
"The Metric System is a tool of the devil !" -Abraham J. Simpson
TheLetterD
Base 12 system allows for more flexibility in divisions than base 10 system, helpful in carpentry/design/making (1,2,3,4,6,12 vs 1,2,5,10)
drGrafenberg
That is a very small banana.
Syk0tik0ne
Ouch...
Blikksem
How can we be sure without a banana for scale?
WillJeSuis
El psy kongroo
ReverseTrapTsukasa
GullahGullahIslander
JohnHobbs
1) The banana is in Metric, 2) Every factory I worked at before I got out of it used Metric, 3) Celsius isn't metric, Kelvin would be closer
Radix865
The modern metric is the SI-system, which has Kelvin as a base unit and Celsius as a derived unit. So technically you're correct...
daboogiemansta
TIL I'm 10.3 bananas tall
DeKetsendeRechter
That pic is terrible, making it look like metric has near random numbers. Shoulda been the other way around...
artistandascholar2000
Bananas can also measure force if thrown; mechanical slip testing if unpeeled; and time differential of store purchase to banana bread.
Biggie69
Cool, I'm 11,3 bananas tall and 1000 bananas heavy.
grabgrab
6’ 8” and 270. Pretty slim there. I see you in a tux with a bald head and a ginger goatee. Metropolitan, yet approachable.
Close but not quite.. Dressed casually, full head of hair and then some, red-ish full beard. Slightly scary to some, yet approachable. 8)
Quaaszy
Username checks out
It sure does ?
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Chonker
Yup, but not too much
cyberimg
FAKE. It nicely has 24 Parts to one Banana, but then deci-parts? US would clearly never use those but go with 1/8th or 1/16th.
UneventfulLover
My thought exactly. This is a metric banana if I ever saw one (I'm in Europe), can't use that in the U.S can you?
Ghlargh
They missed the opportunity to graduate the whole thing in centibananas.
DovvyDragon
I think it's for Non-Americans to understand the American banana scale reference, hence the centimeters.
Because obviously Americans all know how big a banana is, or they use a real one.
theshinobi23
DillPixels
What a fucking legend she was to become and she had no idea.
kingkongkeom
Aha so that show it began...never knew. Thank you!
mpcx
All hail Bananicus Primus!!!
thechocmaster
We most honor our ancestors, the traditional sacrifice is white cheddar popcorn and crystal Pepsi
SpaceWarrior3000
Oh wow honestly thought I had witnessed the beginning of the banana measurement a while back here on imgur. Apparently it's older than that
MrRlCE
Was always wondering the origin of this. Thanks for sharing.
percolatingcarborator
Ah the sacred texts hath been revealed once more
rockyyoman
Do not quote the ancient texts to me i was there when they were written!! (I wasnt but ive always wanted to use that quote)
Badsequence
I was there I was in my third year in my new career doing IT support now 15 years later I'm still in IT and still use a banana for scale!
Laser2000
Be interested. PLEASE.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
It absolutely did not start in 2005, I was here when it started. Imgur didn't exist in 2005. Wtf even is this
usingYourMomAsAHat
LOL
wiperwoper
"Imgur didn't exist in 2005". Well that's not a problem since it did not start in Imgur then.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Are you having an existential crisis? Imgur just might not be the origin of the silly banana meme. That's what this means
JustinSane6
The world is older than Imgur.
MajorasTerribleFate
Bullshit
MattGlade
Yeah but it might've been posted years later to Imgur and it could then have started the whole thing...
Zeboku
When/where did it start then?
CuzFuhQThatsY
A teenager posted about someone living in a hidden part of their house. Showed wrappers of stolen Halloween candy with a banana for scale.
Jnizzle3452
That was in 2013, the TV is OG. I remember seeing it on FunnyJunk before they went neo-nazi.
BlueDsc
This reminds me of when I was talking about pre-youtube era meme videos with a younger coworker of mine.
You mean back in the days before the invention of color in everyday life?
I suddenly have the urge to read The Giver.
QueefSupreme
HARD PILLS TO SWALLOW...
brianglass10
Don’t forget we use washing machines too. Have not seen that in a while really...
Hedgehogsareadorable
I screenshot when I see someone comment about how many washing machines something is and send it to my fiance. He gets a kick out of that
p0rnsyrup
Yesaah! Yesterday a post was had about the sink hole fitting seven washing machines.. good way to put things in perspective
charminglily832718
And football fields...
shaftofbread
Olympic swimming pools...
PIGGYOINK12345
And guitars for temperature
/a/s910czX
Masterofdisgust
The UK puts them in the kitchen
ConfirmologistUK
Can confirm
A UK refrigerator is a bit smaller than a US washing machine. What size is a UK washing machine?
GamesAndRocks
Around 64.5cm x 89cm x 67cm or 25.4" x 35" x 26.4" the size can vary by a 2 - 3cms on any length
TY. Sounds Like a typical under the counter device. Slightly smaller than a US clothes washing machine, same as a dishwasher.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Pocket sized
You really need to get a separate room for that. And get rid of the carpet floors in the bathrooms.
Why do I need to do that. I'm not from the UK.
Then you are exempt from my statement.
Your "statement" was a direct reply saying "you"
People in the UK do not carpet their bathroom. OK, maybe one nutter somewhere, but not in general.
I think things have changed over the last 20-30 years, but it used to be quite common.
number1keeper
Back in the 80s my parents had a bathroom carpet
johnnyratbastard
malachilenomade
And we use a 12 hr clock. Meanwhile, the military uses the 24 hr clock & the day/month/year system. Welcome to the US; like we give a shit.
Averien
Military uses YYYYMMDD, not DMY.
When I was in, we were always told to do it as 25 AUG 20.
Everything I filled out was 20200825 for that date. Was almost 20 years ago, though, so I suppose it could have changed (again)
Mine was 30 years ago.
CheekyDogLadyAlwaysUpvotesDeanWinchester
What does the triangle shape for the date represent?
Smallest unit to biggest unit. A year is bigger, a day is smaller.
TavisMcNamara
I was pondering a new and improved calendar system the other day. All months start on the 13th, thus permanently ensuring you always ->
Know what order month and day are bring listed in. 12/13 is the first day (the thirteenth) of December, as is 13/12. It would be a ->
Horrifying but effective solution.
ath1337e
There is actually a point to be made for Fahrenheit. 0 = very cold for a person and 100 = very hot.
ThySausagePrince
Aren't there more days in any one month than there are months in a year?....
bozthekiller
Wait until you hear liter gallon ounces teaspoon tablespoon (I dont even know how much a teaspoon is wtf) and also we use meters to mile
tarquinious
drmccormick75512
There's your problem those are part of to different scales. It's bald egale per gun and obese child per hamburger
Zahnradfee
What about bald eagle per hamburger? Will that be obese eagles? And what about guns per child?
Bald eagle burgers dont taste good. As for guns per child it was recently update to child per coffin
I thought the eagle would eat the burger.
kingof2557431415
#1 this complains everything
RamAssScratcher
Celsius does not make any more sense than Fahrenheit in fact I think it's slightly less practical because water doesn't care about hot/cold
steviEa
We’re struggling convincing a portion of our country that black people are actually human beings. So implementing metric sounds like a dream
SiangSpaceTraveler
Celsius is a fitness drink
okayyeahigetit
I still vouch for Fahrenheit. 0 is “layer up, it’s cold as fuck” and 100 is “it’s going to be hot as fuck”. Like a percentage scale.
kerms
I like being able to measure things based on lengths that actually pertain to a human being instead of scientific usage.
Messochristo
I dont know any Americans that dont know how to use grams
AellaBird
I mean... It looks confusing at first but I wouldn't mind a switch, though I'm fond of Fahrenheit during the summer when it gets 100+. xD
I would really love the measurement conversions for sure. It irritates me when I see the date/month/year thing though. o~o
Year-month-day is much better tho. Easier for sorting algorithms.
azraelsorrow
As an American, I agree except on MDY vs DMY. Mostly because when speaking people usually say "August 25th", not "the 25th of August".
LunaLucia
Like the fourth of July?
"usually"
FishSausages
Are you guys gonna eventually learn conversion to hang out on the moon bases or nah?
eggmuffin
Who are you talking to? All the space agencies use metric.
JackArnone
I maintain that Celsius is not superior to Fahrenheit. The value of metric is that it's a decimal system. The fact water boils at 100 is 1/x
is just as arbitrary as anything else. Whereas Fahrenheit has a greater fidelity in temperature ranges that humans actually live in. 2/2
caveman42
I do Year-Month-Day
MinorityOpinion
Military use year/month/day/hour/minute/second
At least both Y-M-D and D-M-Y are both logically sorted by decreasing/increasing unit length, M-D-Y is all over the place.
But but but in imperial you can make fractions! It's more precise! /s
ChloeRed
Till you hit the issue of where you do a fraction in Imperial, and the other person reads it in US and gets a different value?
erikleorga
Then you've got the British measuring in imperial, metric, AND then throwing in "stone" for added confusion.
Actually no, there were a number of "stones" that existed way before that under the "English" system of units - which were a confusing mess.
The US did away with them entirely, but the British Empire settled on one of them (14lbs) and used those for the basis of the hundredweight-
and ton. These are, incidentally, the "long" hundredweight and ton - 8 stone to the hundredweight and 20 cwt to the ton.
Youhavinagiraffe
Beer in pints. Wine in millilitres. Long distances in miles, short distance in metres. People's height and weight in feet and stone. Objects
SlyeFox
Food is listed in both Imperial & Metric.
height and weight in metres and killograms... it's kind of a mess and I've started just ignoring it and use metric for everything
Except driving speed where I don't have a choice because the road signs will always be in miles per hour
This statement is weird. "Throwing in stone" stone is part of the Imperial system, so why are you mentioning it twice?
[deleted]
Or are you thinking that say, the US uses Imperial? Because they don't.
Fine, than let me more specific since you're being pedantic. No one else ASIDE from Britain uses it.
And? It's still in the spec of imperial. Just because it's not in, for exmaple, US customary, doesn't mean it's not 100% part of imperial. 1
It's part of the defination. 14lb = 1 st, 8st = 1 cwt, 20 cwt = 1 ton.
skyblade22
Celsius is just as arbitrary as Fahrenheit tho
TylerDurdensOtherFriend
Not really, it’s base 100, +100 is water boiling, -100 is the average Canadian temperature for 10 months of the year.
At least the zero point of the celcius scale means *something* that you or I could measure. Zero Fahrenheit is properly arbitrary.
As any standardized measurement will always be. The key is consistency.
middlehead
They're all arbitrary, one being more structured doesn't mean it isn't also. And Fahrenheit is better for describing human environments.
onlyhereforthehotfuzzreferences
thats how I've heard it described and it makes sense. F is how hot it feels to people. C how hot water feels. K how hot atoms feel
ResidentOfWinland
How is it better for describing human environments, exactly?
0 C water freeze. 100 C water boils. 20 C you're comfy. 30 C it's hot. 40 C Arizona hot. -20 C Canada/Russia cold. There you go.
DarkBlueB
Ever heard of decimals?
TheDuckDuck
Cut that socialist bullshit
Mgunh1
Whoa, don't confuse the American, decimals are a bit advanced for them
ArthurPhillipDent
I have a tape measure at my work that has feet and inches on one side, and the other side has decimalised feet. How you gonna measure in
Tenths of a foot? Nothing is measured that way surely
rianstar
Oof
WellThatWentOK
Not really, metric is defined by constants in physics. F only makes sense if you grew up with it. To everyone else its gibberish
Yes really, metric is just as arbitrary as SI, and was REdefined because the arbitrary originals were unstable. KG just changed recently.
Bonus US customary units are defined in metric anyways, just with a dumb ass conversion factor added.
This part is correct, but irrelevant to the fact that both are arbitrary.
Don't forget the fun of not being able to tell US and Imperial units apart unless specified. Try pouring 1 pint (Imp) into a pint glass (us)
EmeraldMoreLikeUninstall
ISO-8601 is the only logical date and datetime format.
Totally agree. To me in regular use cases, month day year is best. But if we're going to argue, year month day is most logical.
bat0nas
Yyyy-mm-dd is perfect. Its logical and follows every counting rule in nature
DarkUranium
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/iso_8601_2x.png
lordfwahfnah
There is a xkcd for everything
jrblast
The only standard I which I remember the number for. Because it's just so useful.
TeofiloPaolucci
0 - 100⁰F is how cold/hot people feel, 0 - 100⁰C is how cold/hot water feels. ⁰K is how atoms feel.
True, but it's K, not °K.
More than half of a human is water (unless morbidly obese) and get that fucking degree of my kelvin! Kelvin is ABSOLUTE!
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
It's almost like living organisms and the weather system of our planet are dominated by the role of water.
And afaik, Most people are used to saying August 25th, 2020, rather than 25th of August, 2020.
Or "4th of July".
MilConDoin
Why is the Independence Day the "Fourth of July", instead of "July the Fourth"? Sounds inconsistent.
Because it's every July 4th. The day of the month is the significant part. But yes, English seems very inconsistent.
FourGreenFields
And none write 4-10 just because they say fourteen. Maybe because that'd be fucking stupid.
x4mer
number 25 in German = fünf und zwanzig (five and twenty), year 1567 = fünfzehn hundert sieben und sechzig (fifteen hundred seven and sixty)
I can't tell if this is a criticism of the English language, my comment, or agreeing with me. Regardless it reminds me of counting in French
Criticism of the reasoning for MM/DD/YYYY. You can write it "[Month] the [day], [year]", but proper formats don't care about how you say it
and just a regular grocery store in DE: €123,45 = ein hundert drei und zwanzig fünf und vierzig (one hundred three and twenty five and forty
DaNylz
Y'all know how much one liter of water weights?
That's right. One kg.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
that's why we use metric in the STEM fields in America.
people in the US actually use this without realizing it when using ppm or ppb, which is same as mg/L or ug/L respectively.
fivelmousekewitz
~ 1 kg
Close enough so as to make little difference in making estimates. You tell me the volume of your fish tank, and I can ballpark its weight.
At 3.98°C.
which is the temperature of lowest density, right?
CPTNNemo
the funniest thing is that imperial system is based on metric :D
halfwindsor
No. The US Customary System is based on 18thC British measurements, which grew from a combination of Anglo-Saxon and Roman measures.
Imperial measures were codified in 1824, which gives the differences between US & Imperial. Metric was developed in France in the 1790s.
I can assure you that the modern definition of an inch is not "the length of three corns of barley". Today, an inch is defined as "25.4 mm".
News for you, Imperial was redefined in Metric in the Weights and measures act changes of IIRC 1985. Inches and pounds were 1
already metric, having been standardised between Imperial and US in metric in 1959... 2/2
OptimusToaster
What they meant is that the definitions of imperial units are in metric units. 1 inch is 25.4mm, 1 pound is 0.45359237kg.
wellitseemedlikeagoodideaatthetime
No what they mean is modern imperial measurement is certified and guaranteed by metric devices and institutions
Thanks boo x
nero4ty2
Which is a totally correct statement, saying they are “based on” metric is implying that inches etc were somehow derived from meters etc
yeah this is what I meant, thanks.
GrimyPorkchop
1 calorie is the amount of energy it takes to heat 1 cubic centimetre of water (i.e. 1 ml) by 1 degrees Celsius, right? Idk
curcuna
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It is, but it's a fairly useless measure of energy.
Denamic
Hence obesity
That's not what I meant - it pre-dates the concept that heat and motion are interchangeble so therefore has little uses other than being -
a convenient unit for how much something will heat up water - i.e. chemists will sometimes use calories rather than 4.7J.
mormacil
Yes like BMI they're imperfect measures for specific things instead of blanket guides as they're used today.
alexburgers
Do you prefer the British Thermal Unit? Same thing but in stupid units. Still, everybody uses Joules instead of Calories anwyay, except food
I do prefer BTU (American) just because I have frames of reference ingrained into me. Watts are fine though
Doing thermodynamic calculations in imperial units and discovering that sometimes efficiency had the unit of BTU/hp.h made my head hurt.
SendMeYourBoobyyyys
Wtf is wrong with you americans
You're what's wrong with us, it's just a way to make sense of the world and it works, why do you care so much how we make sense of the world
JayKaySC
Because there is a clear problem in making sense in a way that has no logical scaling, when talking measurements.
It's not a problem for the people using it though and it doesn't really affect anyone else
*Vaguely gestures at everything*
ChrisRye
We are not okay, alright. Help.
jon5465
Nothing can help you now, so here’s Skeletor instead.
SunsGettinReaLow
But we already made him....
Haha, touché. He still can’t help you though.
Fluckers
To be fair, the UK still uses miles per hour, weight in stones, height in feet. Horse sales are still done using the hands of King Henry 8th
geraint616
I mean we use the metric system too, we just use both systems
same here in America, at least as an industrial construction project manager.
What's your point?
That it's not just the US that uses different measurements. Most of it is standardised in schools and industry, but the old ways take time
To be removed completely.
myexpectationsaresuperlow
I'm moving the the US next year and the imperial system is one of the things I'm dreading most about it.
Madhouse1926
We in all reality use both systems. Most everything is printed in both systems, so you can use Metric for most things.
MorskiPes
Have you lost a bet?
No I married an American dude.
Congrats :)
Quick question, which issues exactly are you expecting to face?
I'm guessing that he'll have to memorize relationships between measurements rather than being able to deduce them from context.
But how often to measurements get brought up? For me it's not often. For food, most of it has US and metric both.
Temperatures, car speedometer, weight and height stuff, liquid containers, etc. Even shoe and clothing sizes are different in the US so 1/2
I'll have to relearn everything when I get there. 2/2
if you ever feel like you could use some help, I've been using both systems for decades, feel free to DM
DotcoreJetkill
It's weird that the imperial system doesn't have a measurement smaller than 2,5 cm
cominginhot
Body part x decimal number
muttley23
You can measure in Thousandth of an inch. So 40 Thou is just over 1mm. The Aviation industry works in imperial although a lot is (1)
Converted to metric on drawings in Europe. When I was a Toolmaker for Airbus, we'd convert back from metric to imperial so we'd (2)
Have round numbers to work in rather than loads of decimals. (3)
AmbroseGudmaker
Electronics "1 mil" can mean a millimetre *or" one thousandth of an inch.
I feel less safe knowing this
pritolus
Just move the decimal, that's like the entire point of metric. 1.2mm -> 1200um. 0.021m -> 21mm.
hybrid572
We used to use sixteenths of an inch, which is 1.5875mm.
we still do. and 32nds, 64ths, so on
kill3rTcell
Alistairetheblu
Used to? Isn't that still used in screwdriver sizes?
stiltsonwheels
Still do. And 32nds and 64ths
Anything but decimal, huh?
we use decimal feet too, for surveying, that fucks a lot of people up.
TheCarolingian
In the old days we used to use things that were readily available to everyone in an agrarian economy. Seeds were a standard base unit
'seeds'. Because those are uniform across types of crops
Most people have 10 fingers, that's the basis of most math
The English loathe anything that is straightforward: that’s why they created the imperial system, stupid money until 1970 and cricket
Snarkoleptic
I think this is the real reason for Brexit
WanderingMess
We didn't make it but we did refuse to use the French system when they made the metric system. Luckily we're over that prejudice.
TheLastKingOfSomewhere
I’ve never understood the logic behind the month/date/year thing. It’s like expressing the time as minutes/hours/seconds.
martineb72
It comes from people writing letters with March 3rd, year of our lord 1812.
In English its 25th OF March vs. March 25th. The of is needed because dates are often referenced without a month. One fewer syllable.
Quessir
Either have I, yet I have known Americans to make a stand on that hill.
Do they also celibrate the 4th of July? ;)
Jumacao
It's even more confusing because US government institutions like the military actually do sort either day month year or year month day.
szlash280z
we go by 20200825, or 25AUG20, or 20237
meMarbleMaker
In IT it's YEAR.MONTH.DAY, easy to list chronologically and sift through data quickly.
buttcreambandit
I’m actually alright with that one. Not using metric is retarded though
it's how most of us say it. Today is August 26th, 2020,
SpecialAgentCake
Mostly because it's sorted by max amounts. 12 months, 28/29/30/31 days, and years never end
atuinworldturtle
Ask the Mayans about that ?
Devviedehm
You could say the years start coming and they don't stop coming
menshi
?noredirect
Potatopeelerkind
Apparently it's easier for sorting. The day is pretty irrelevant if you don't know the month, so month-first emphasises the important bit.
serokiCat
It's a good thing we have datetime as a data type now so it doesn't matter which way it's put in
Humans still look through things sorted by dates.
I disagree. Day matters more than the month because like with the year the month can be obvious depending on context. For sorting yyyy-mm-dd
Depends on how many entries per month you have.
HandoB4Javert
*if you're lucky.
unfamiliarHorse
yyyymmdd ......
Senninriki
Any file system that needs sorting is nowdays done by file ID or serial. Ordering by date is automatic making this excuse obsolete.
I mean as a human trying to understand it. If I'm going through, say, transaction history, I can assume the year pretty easily from 1
context and I probably don't really care about the specific day, but I would like to know the month. 2
CyberAkuma
Not systems that generate daily logs.
Sorting by date in file managers sorts by modification date. Which will very often not match a file's internal dating. Consider (1/?)
... copying files around (this includes downloading), or having do a fixup in a file from 2 months ago. (2/?)
VideoConverterAccount
I always thought the month/day/year thing is because it’s easier to say something like August 5th rather than the 5th of August.
Just like the holiday, the 4th of July, right?
Yes but it’s THE 4th of July. It’s like a title so it’s an exception or something? Idfk, because Murica I guess. I prefer day/month/year.
DrunkRightNow
Even better is year/month/day, because of the same rationale. Data of March next to data of last year's March is also often irrelevant
Depends if the files are in yearly folders or not, if not then yes year first makes more sense.
Also, computers will sort YYYY-MM-DD correctly even if they treat it as a simple string (as opposed to a date). E.g. in filenames.
Tbh computers can easily sort any arrangement of dates anyhows. If it's an actual timestamp they need to convert stuff anyway as those work>
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
YYYY-mm-ddTHH:mm:ss.mmm+ZZZZ or riot.
Yup. It's ISO 8601 or GTFO.
Well, only if you're dealing with datasets that span multiple years, which often isn't the case.
Plamf
Are we really attempting to rationalise this? American then?
By what logic? YYYY-MM-DD and M/D/Y are equivalent if you drop the year entirely.
SvarvSven
In my limited experience (self employed since 94), multiple years of data is most often the case. ^^
Book keeping? Taxes? Medical history? Building code history? Historic crop yield?
Frenchsweets
This post is absolutely bananas!
FailedCrate
Fuck the imperial system tho: https://youtu.be/hid7EJkwDNk
i13mel
Can we please take this time to switch over? It feels like the right time.
LabyrinthBuilder
theorsonwells
Uhhh are there not centimeter markings across the bottom?
FrogBotherer
There are 23 vegentitribananas to the banana.
extraDimensionalAnxiety
I like how it's marked with mm.
MyBigMouth
PhobianDarkmoon
We need to find a common item exactly one meter long and tell Americans to use that as their unit...
maskaya
The rest of the world hates that the US knows fractions
iamthecomet
I saw a massive giraffe statue the other day. I really should take a picture and post it.
NZSheeps
Come to Christchurch - there's about dozens scattered around the city https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/66078888/
JP8CantMeltSteelBeams
There are countries that use the metric system and countries that have been to the moon
OrdinarilyBob
Munchman347
It's in Centimetres, how is that U.S.?...
Xenarion
Those look like cm, no?
TheRelaxedCat
Inch of banana scale!
daathbeam
BananaForScaIe
Sup?
daathbeam
browsererror
No, that banana is marked in metric
Jaqdakloun
"The Metric System is a tool of the devil !" -Abraham J. Simpson
TheLetterD
Base 12 system allows for more flexibility in divisions than base 10 system, helpful in carpentry/design/making (1,2,3,4,6,12 vs 1,2,5,10)
drGrafenberg
That is a very small banana.
Syk0tik0ne
drGrafenberg
Ouch...
Blikksem
How can we be sure without a banana for scale?
WillJeSuis
El psy kongroo
ReverseTrapTsukasa
GullahGullahIslander
JohnHobbs
1) The banana is in Metric, 2) Every factory I worked at before I got out of it used Metric, 3) Celsius isn't metric, Kelvin would be closer
Radix865
The modern metric is the SI-system, which has Kelvin as a base unit and Celsius as a derived unit. So technically you're correct...
daboogiemansta
NZSheeps
TIL I'm 10.3 bananas tall
DeKetsendeRechter
That pic is terrible, making it look like metric has near random numbers. Shoulda been the other way around...
artistandascholar2000
Bananas can also measure force if thrown; mechanical slip testing if unpeeled; and time differential of store purchase to banana bread.
Biggie69
Cool, I'm 11,3 bananas tall and 1000 bananas heavy.
grabgrab
6’ 8” and 270. Pretty slim there. I see you in a tux with a bald head and a ginger goatee. Metropolitan, yet approachable.
Biggie69
Close but not quite.. Dressed casually, full head of hair and then some, red-ish full beard. Slightly scary to some, yet approachable. 8)
Quaaszy
Username checks out
Biggie69
It sure does ?
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Chonker
Biggie69
Yup, but not too much
cyberimg
FAKE. It nicely has 24 Parts to one Banana, but then deci-parts? US would clearly never use those but go with 1/8th or 1/16th.
UneventfulLover
My thought exactly. This is a metric banana if I ever saw one (I'm in Europe), can't use that in the U.S can you?
Ghlargh
They missed the opportunity to graduate the whole thing in centibananas.
DovvyDragon
I think it's for Non-Americans to understand the American banana scale reference, hence the centimeters.
DovvyDragon
Because obviously Americans all know how big a banana is, or they use a real one.
theshinobi23
DillPixels
What a fucking legend she was to become and she had no idea.
kingkongkeom
Aha so that show it began...never knew. Thank you!
mpcx
All hail Bananicus Primus!!!
thechocmaster
We most honor our ancestors, the traditional sacrifice is white cheddar popcorn and crystal Pepsi
SpaceWarrior3000
Oh wow honestly thought I had witnessed the beginning of the banana measurement a while back here on imgur. Apparently it's older than that
MrRlCE
Was always wondering the origin of this. Thanks for sharing.
percolatingcarborator
Ah the sacred texts hath been revealed once more
rockyyoman
Do not quote the ancient texts to me i was there when they were written!! (I wasnt but ive always wanted to use that quote)
Badsequence
I was there I was in my third year in my new career doing IT support now 15 years later I'm still in IT and still use a banana for scale!
Laser2000
Be interested. PLEASE.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
It absolutely did not start in 2005, I was here when it started. Imgur didn't exist in 2005. Wtf even is this
usingYourMomAsAHat
LOL
wiperwoper
"Imgur didn't exist in 2005". Well that's not a problem since it did not start in Imgur then.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Are you having an existential crisis? Imgur just might not be the origin of the silly banana meme. That's what this means
JustinSane6
The world is older than Imgur.
MajorasTerribleFate
Bullshit
MattGlade
Yeah but it might've been posted years later to Imgur and it could then have started the whole thing...
Zeboku
When/where did it start then?
CuzFuhQThatsY
A teenager posted about someone living in a hidden part of their house. Showed wrappers of stolen Halloween candy with a banana for scale.
Jnizzle3452
That was in 2013, the TV is OG. I remember seeing it on FunnyJunk before they went neo-nazi.
BlueDsc
This reminds me of when I was talking about pre-youtube era meme videos with a younger coworker of mine.
usingYourMomAsAHat
You mean back in the days before the invention of color in everyday life?
BlueDsc
I suddenly have the urge to read The Giver.
QueefSupreme
HARD PILLS TO SWALLOW...
brianglass10
Don’t forget we use washing machines too. Have not seen that in a while really...
Hedgehogsareadorable
I screenshot when I see someone comment about how many washing machines something is and send it to my fiance. He gets a kick out of that
p0rnsyrup
Yesaah! Yesterday a post was had about the sink hole fitting seven washing machines.. good way to put things in perspective
charminglily832718
And football fields...
shaftofbread
Olympic swimming pools...
PIGGYOINK12345
And guitars for temperature
p0rnsyrup
/a/s910czX
Masterofdisgust
The UK puts them in the kitchen
ConfirmologistUK
Can confirm
brianglass10
A UK refrigerator is a bit smaller than a US washing machine. What size is a UK washing machine?
GamesAndRocks
Around 64.5cm x 89cm x 67cm or 25.4" x 35" x 26.4" the size can vary by a 2 - 3cms on any length
brianglass10
TY. Sounds Like a typical under the counter device. Slightly smaller than a US clothes washing machine, same as a dishwasher.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Pocket sized
drGrafenberg
You really need to get a separate room for that. And get rid of the carpet floors in the bathrooms.
Masterofdisgust
Why do I need to do that. I'm not from the UK.
drGrafenberg
Then you are exempt from my statement.
Masterofdisgust
Your "statement" was a direct reply saying "you"
ConfirmologistUK
People in the UK do not carpet their bathroom. OK, maybe one nutter somewhere, but not in general.
drGrafenberg
I think things have changed over the last 20-30 years, but it used to be quite common.
number1keeper
Back in the 80s my parents had a bathroom carpet
johnnyratbastard
malachilenomade
And we use a 12 hr clock. Meanwhile, the military uses the 24 hr clock & the day/month/year system. Welcome to the US; like we give a shit.
Averien
Military uses YYYYMMDD, not DMY.
malachilenomade
When I was in, we were always told to do it as 25 AUG 20.
Averien
Everything I filled out was 20200825 for that date. Was almost 20 years ago, though, so I suppose it could have changed (again)
malachilenomade
Mine was 30 years ago.
CheekyDogLadyAlwaysUpvotesDeanWinchester
What does the triangle shape for the date represent?
Xenarion
Smallest unit to biggest unit. A year is bigger, a day is smaller.
TavisMcNamara
I was pondering a new and improved calendar system the other day. All months start on the 13th, thus permanently ensuring you always ->
TavisMcNamara
Know what order month and day are bring listed in. 12/13 is the first day (the thirteenth) of December, as is 13/12. It would be a ->
TavisMcNamara
Horrifying but effective solution.
ath1337e
There is actually a point to be made for Fahrenheit. 0 = very cold for a person and 100 = very hot.
ThySausagePrince
Aren't there more days in any one month than there are months in a year?....
bozthekiller
Wait until you hear liter gallon ounces teaspoon tablespoon (I dont even know how much a teaspoon is wtf) and also we use meters to mile
tarquinious
drmccormick75512
There's your problem those are part of to different scales. It's bald egale per gun and obese child per hamburger
Zahnradfee
What about bald eagle per hamburger? Will that be obese eagles? And what about guns per child?
drmccormick75512
Bald eagle burgers dont taste good. As for guns per child it was recently update to child per coffin
Zahnradfee
I thought the eagle would eat the burger.
kingof2557431415
#1 this complains everything
RamAssScratcher
Celsius does not make any more sense than Fahrenheit in fact I think it's slightly less practical because water doesn't care about hot/cold
steviEa
We’re struggling convincing a portion of our country that black people are actually human beings. So implementing metric sounds like a dream
SiangSpaceTraveler
Celsius is a fitness drink
okayyeahigetit
I still vouch for Fahrenheit. 0 is “layer up, it’s cold as fuck” and 100 is “it’s going to be hot as fuck”. Like a percentage scale.
kerms
I like being able to measure things based on lengths that actually pertain to a human being instead of scientific usage.
Messochristo
I dont know any Americans that dont know how to use grams
AellaBird
I mean... It looks confusing at first but I wouldn't mind a switch, though I'm fond of Fahrenheit during the summer when it gets 100+. xD
AellaBird
I would really love the measurement conversions for sure. It irritates me when I see the date/month/year thing though. o~o
Xenarion
Year-month-day is much better tho. Easier for sorting algorithms.
azraelsorrow
As an American, I agree except on MDY vs DMY. Mostly because when speaking people usually say "August 25th", not "the 25th of August".
LunaLucia
Like the fourth of July?
azraelsorrow
"usually"
FishSausages
Are you guys gonna eventually learn conversion to hang out on the moon bases or nah?
eggmuffin
Who are you talking to? All the space agencies use metric.
JackArnone
I maintain that Celsius is not superior to Fahrenheit. The value of metric is that it's a decimal system. The fact water boils at 100 is 1/x
JackArnone
is just as arbitrary as anything else. Whereas Fahrenheit has a greater fidelity in temperature ranges that humans actually live in. 2/2
caveman42
I do Year-Month-Day
MinorityOpinion
Military use year/month/day/hour/minute/second
LunaLucia
At least both Y-M-D and D-M-Y are both logically sorted by decreasing/increasing unit length, M-D-Y is all over the place.
charminglily832718
But but but in imperial you can make fractions! It's more precise! /s
ChloeRed
Till you hit the issue of where you do a fraction in Imperial, and the other person reads it in US and gets a different value?
erikleorga
Then you've got the British measuring in imperial, metric, AND then throwing in "stone" for added confusion.
FrogBotherer
Actually no, there were a number of "stones" that existed way before that under the "English" system of units - which were a confusing mess.
FrogBotherer
The US did away with them entirely, but the British Empire settled on one of them (14lbs) and used those for the basis of the hundredweight-
FrogBotherer
and ton. These are, incidentally, the "long" hundredweight and ton - 8 stone to the hundredweight and 20 cwt to the ton.
Youhavinagiraffe
Beer in pints. Wine in millilitres. Long distances in miles, short distance in metres. People's height and weight in feet and stone. Objects
SlyeFox
Food is listed in both Imperial & Metric.
Youhavinagiraffe
height and weight in metres and killograms... it's kind of a mess and I've started just ignoring it and use metric for everything
Youhavinagiraffe
Except driving speed where I don't have a choice because the road signs will always be in miles per hour
ChloeRed
This statement is weird. "Throwing in stone" stone is part of the Imperial system, so why are you mentioning it twice?
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ChloeRed
Or are you thinking that say, the US uses Imperial? Because they don't.
erikleorga
Fine, than let me more specific since you're being pedantic. No one else ASIDE from Britain uses it.
ChloeRed
And? It's still in the spec of imperial. Just because it's not in, for exmaple, US customary, doesn't mean it's not 100% part of imperial. 1
ChloeRed
It's part of the defination. 14lb = 1 st, 8st = 1 cwt, 20 cwt = 1 ton.
skyblade22
Celsius is just as arbitrary as Fahrenheit tho
TylerDurdensOtherFriend
Not really, it’s base 100, +100 is water boiling, -100 is the average Canadian temperature for 10 months of the year.
FrogBotherer
At least the zero point of the celcius scale means *something* that you or I could measure. Zero Fahrenheit is properly arbitrary.
eggmuffin
As any standardized measurement will always be. The key is consistency.
middlehead
They're all arbitrary, one being more structured doesn't mean it isn't also. And Fahrenheit is better for describing human environments.
onlyhereforthehotfuzzreferences
thats how I've heard it described and it makes sense. F is how hot it feels to people. C how hot water feels. K how hot atoms feel
ResidentOfWinland
How is it better for describing human environments, exactly?
charminglily832718
0 C water freeze. 100 C water boils. 20 C you're comfy. 30 C it's hot. 40 C Arizona hot. -20 C Canada/Russia cold. There you go.
DarkBlueB
Ever heard of decimals?
TheDuckDuck
Cut that socialist bullshit
Mgunh1
Whoa, don't confuse the American, decimals are a bit advanced for them
ArthurPhillipDent
I have a tape measure at my work that has feet and inches on one side, and the other side has decimalised feet. How you gonna measure in
ArthurPhillipDent
Tenths of a foot? Nothing is measured that way surely
rianstar
Oof
WellThatWentOK
Not really, metric is defined by constants in physics. F only makes sense if you grew up with it. To everyone else its gibberish
middlehead
Yes really, metric is just as arbitrary as SI, and was REdefined because the arbitrary originals were unstable. KG just changed recently.
WellThatWentOK
Bonus US customary units are defined in metric anyways, just with a dumb ass conversion factor added.
middlehead
This part is correct, but irrelevant to the fact that both are arbitrary.
ChloeRed
Don't forget the fun of not being able to tell US and Imperial units apart unless specified. Try pouring 1 pint (Imp) into a pint glass (us)
EmeraldMoreLikeUninstall
ISO-8601 is the only logical date and datetime format.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Totally agree. To me in regular use cases, month day year is best. But if we're going to argue, year month day is most logical.
bat0nas
Yyyy-mm-dd is perfect. Its logical and follows every counting rule in nature
DarkUranium
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/iso_8601_2x.png
lordfwahfnah
There is a xkcd for everything
jrblast
The only standard I which I remember the number for. Because it's just so useful.
TeofiloPaolucci
0 - 100⁰F is how cold/hot people feel, 0 - 100⁰C is how cold/hot water feels. ⁰K is how atoms feel.
Xenarion
True, but it's K, not °K.
LunaLucia
More than half of a human is water (unless morbidly obese) and get that fucking degree of my kelvin! Kelvin is ABSOLUTE!
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
It's almost like living organisms and the weather system of our planet are dominated by the role of water.
TeofiloPaolucci
And afaik, Most people are used to saying August 25th, 2020, rather than 25th of August, 2020.
eggmuffin
Or "4th of July".
MilConDoin
Why is the Independence Day the "Fourth of July", instead of "July the Fourth"? Sounds inconsistent.
TeofiloPaolucci
Because it's every July 4th. The day of the month is the significant part. But yes, English seems very inconsistent.
FourGreenFields
And none write 4-10 just because they say fourteen. Maybe because that'd be fucking stupid.
x4mer
number 25 in German = fünf und zwanzig (five and twenty), year 1567 = fünfzehn hundert sieben und sechzig (fifteen hundred seven and sixty)
TeofiloPaolucci
I can't tell if this is a criticism of the English language, my comment, or agreeing with me. Regardless it reminds me of counting in French
FourGreenFields
Criticism of the reasoning for MM/DD/YYYY. You can write it "[Month] the [day], [year]", but proper formats don't care about how you say it
x4mer
and just a regular grocery store in DE: €123,45 = ein hundert drei und zwanzig fünf und vierzig (one hundred three and twenty five and forty
DaNylz
Y'all know how much one liter of water weights?
DaNylz
That's right. One kg.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
that's why we use metric in the STEM fields in America.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
people in the US actually use this without realizing it when using ppm or ppb, which is same as mg/L or ug/L respectively.
fivelmousekewitz
~ 1 kg
eggmuffin
Close enough so as to make little difference in making estimates. You tell me the volume of your fish tank, and I can ballpark its weight.
Zahnradfee
At 3.98°C.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
which is the temperature of lowest density, right?
CPTNNemo
the funniest thing is that imperial system is based on metric :D
halfwindsor
No. The US Customary System is based on 18thC British measurements, which grew from a combination of Anglo-Saxon and Roman measures.
halfwindsor
Imperial measures were codified in 1824, which gives the differences between US & Imperial. Metric was developed in France in the 1790s.
eggmuffin
I can assure you that the modern definition of an inch is not "the length of three corns of barley". Today, an inch is defined as "25.4 mm".
ChloeRed
News for you, Imperial was redefined in Metric in the Weights and measures act changes of IIRC 1985. Inches and pounds were 1
ChloeRed
already metric, having been standardised between Imperial and US in metric in 1959... 2/2
OptimusToaster
What they meant is that the definitions of imperial units are in metric units. 1 inch is 25.4mm, 1 pound is 0.45359237kg.
wellitseemedlikeagoodideaatthetime
No what they mean is modern imperial measurement is certified and guaranteed by metric devices and institutions
halfwindsor
Thanks boo x
nero4ty2
Which is a totally correct statement, saying they are “based on” metric is implying that inches etc were somehow derived from meters etc
CPTNNemo
yeah this is what I meant, thanks.
GrimyPorkchop
1 calorie is the amount of energy it takes to heat 1 cubic centimetre of water (i.e. 1 ml) by 1 degrees Celsius, right? Idk
curcuna
.
FrogBotherer
It is, but it's a fairly useless measure of energy.
Denamic
Hence obesity
FrogBotherer
That's not what I meant - it pre-dates the concept that heat and motion are interchangeble so therefore has little uses other than being -
FrogBotherer
a convenient unit for how much something will heat up water - i.e. chemists will sometimes use calories rather than 4.7J.
mormacil
Yes like BMI they're imperfect measures for specific things instead of blanket guides as they're used today.
alexburgers
Do you prefer the British Thermal Unit? Same thing but in stupid units. Still, everybody uses Joules instead of Calories anwyay, except food
asm80dfa8sdfj
I do prefer BTU (American) just because I have frames of reference ingrained into me. Watts are fine though
FrogBotherer
Doing thermodynamic calculations in imperial units and discovering that sometimes efficiency had the unit of BTU/hp.h made my head hurt.
SendMeYourBoobyyyys
Wtf is wrong with you americans
asm80dfa8sdfj
You're what's wrong with us, it's just a way to make sense of the world and it works, why do you care so much how we make sense of the world
JayKaySC
Because there is a clear problem in making sense in a way that has no logical scaling, when talking measurements.
asm80dfa8sdfj
It's not a problem for the people using it though and it doesn't really affect anyone else
Xenarion
*Vaguely gestures at everything*
ChrisRye
We are not okay, alright. Help.
jon5465
Nothing can help you now, so here’s Skeletor instead.
SunsGettinReaLow
But we already made him....
jon5465
Haha, touché. He still can’t help you though.
Fluckers
To be fair, the UK still uses miles per hour, weight in stones, height in feet. Horse sales are still done using the hands of King Henry 8th
geraint616
I mean we use the metric system too, we just use both systems
MantisTobogganPilotMD
same here in America, at least as an industrial construction project manager.
eggmuffin
What's your point?
Fluckers
That it's not just the US that uses different measurements. Most of it is standardised in schools and industry, but the old ways take time
Fluckers
To be removed completely.
myexpectationsaresuperlow
I'm moving the the US next year and the imperial system is one of the things I'm dreading most about it.
Madhouse1926
We in all reality use both systems. Most everything is printed in both systems, so you can use Metric for most things.
MorskiPes
Have you lost a bet?
myexpectationsaresuperlow
No I married an American dude.
MorskiPes
Congrats :)
asm80dfa8sdfj
Quick question, which issues exactly are you expecting to face?
eggmuffin
I'm guessing that he'll have to memorize relationships between measurements rather than being able to deduce them from context.
asm80dfa8sdfj
But how often to measurements get brought up? For me it's not often. For food, most of it has US and metric both.
myexpectationsaresuperlow
Temperatures, car speedometer, weight and height stuff, liquid containers, etc. Even shoe and clothing sizes are different in the US so 1/2
myexpectationsaresuperlow
I'll have to relearn everything when I get there. 2/2
MantisTobogganPilotMD
if you ever feel like you could use some help, I've been using both systems for decades, feel free to DM
DotcoreJetkill
It's weird that the imperial system doesn't have a measurement smaller than 2,5 cm
cominginhot
Body part x decimal number
muttley23
You can measure in Thousandth of an inch. So 40 Thou is just over 1mm. The Aviation industry works in imperial although a lot is (1)
muttley23
Converted to metric on drawings in Europe. When I was a Toolmaker for Airbus, we'd convert back from metric to imperial so we'd (2)
muttley23
Have round numbers to work in rather than loads of decimals. (3)
AmbroseGudmaker
Electronics "1 mil" can mean a millimetre *or" one thousandth of an inch.
Denamic
I feel less safe knowing this
pritolus
Just move the decimal, that's like the entire point of metric. 1.2mm -> 1200um. 0.021m -> 21mm.
hybrid572
We used to use sixteenths of an inch, which is 1.5875mm.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
we still do. and 32nds, 64ths, so on
kill3rTcell
Alistairetheblu
Used to? Isn't that still used in screwdriver sizes?
stiltsonwheels
Still do. And 32nds and 64ths
DotcoreJetkill
Anything but decimal, huh?
MantisTobogganPilotMD
we use decimal feet too, for surveying, that fucks a lot of people up.
TheCarolingian
In the old days we used to use things that were readily available to everyone in an agrarian economy. Seeds were a standard base unit
mormacil
'seeds'. Because those are uniform across types of crops
DotcoreJetkill
Most people have 10 fingers, that's the basis of most math
DarkBlueB
The English loathe anything that is straightforward: that’s why they created the imperial system, stupid money until 1970 and cricket
Snarkoleptic
I think this is the real reason for Brexit
WanderingMess
We didn't make it but we did refuse to use the French system when they made the metric system. Luckily we're over that prejudice.
TheLastKingOfSomewhere
I’ve never understood the logic behind the month/date/year thing. It’s like expressing the time as minutes/hours/seconds.
martineb72
It comes from people writing letters with March 3rd, year of our lord 1812.
RamAssScratcher
In English its 25th OF March vs. March 25th. The of is needed because dates are often referenced without a month. One fewer syllable.
Quessir
Either have I, yet I have known Americans to make a stand on that hill.
ChloeRed
Do they also celibrate the 4th of July? ;)
Jumacao
It's even more confusing because US government institutions like the military actually do sort either day month year or year month day.
szlash280z
we go by 20200825, or 25AUG20, or 20237
meMarbleMaker
In IT it's YEAR.MONTH.DAY, easy to list chronologically and sift through data quickly.
buttcreambandit
I’m actually alright with that one. Not using metric is retarded though
MantisTobogganPilotMD
it's how most of us say it. Today is August 26th, 2020,
SpecialAgentCake
Mostly because it's sorted by max amounts. 12 months, 28/29/30/31 days, and years never end
atuinworldturtle
Ask the Mayans about that ?
Devviedehm
You could say the years start coming and they don't stop coming
menshi
Potatopeelerkind
Apparently it's easier for sorting. The day is pretty irrelevant if you don't know the month, so month-first emphasises the important bit.
serokiCat
It's a good thing we have datetime as a data type now so it doesn't matter which way it's put in
Potatopeelerkind
Humans still look through things sorted by dates.
pritolus
I disagree. Day matters more than the month because like with the year the month can be obvious depending on context. For sorting yyyy-mm-dd
Potatopeelerkind
Depends on how many entries per month you have.
HandoB4Javert
*if you're lucky.
unfamiliarHorse
yyyymmdd ......
Senninriki
Any file system that needs sorting is nowdays done by file ID or serial. Ordering by date is automatic making this excuse obsolete.
Potatopeelerkind
I mean as a human trying to understand it. If I'm going through, say, transaction history, I can assume the year pretty easily from 1
Potatopeelerkind
context and I probably don't really care about the specific day, but I would like to know the month. 2
CyberAkuma
Not systems that generate daily logs.
DarkUranium
Sorting by date in file managers sorts by modification date. Which will very often not match a file's internal dating. Consider (1/?)
DarkUranium
... copying files around (this includes downloading), or having do a fixup in a file from 2 months ago. (2/?)
VideoConverterAccount
I always thought the month/day/year thing is because it’s easier to say something like August 5th rather than the 5th of August.
ChloeRed
Just like the holiday, the 4th of July, right?
VideoConverterAccount
Yes but it’s THE 4th of July. It’s like a title so it’s an exception or something? Idfk, because Murica I guess. I prefer day/month/year.
DrunkRightNow
Even better is year/month/day, because of the same rationale. Data of March next to data of last year's March is also often irrelevant
CyberAkuma
Depends if the files are in yearly folders or not, if not then yes year first makes more sense.
DarkUranium
Also, computers will sort YYYY-MM-DD correctly even if they treat it as a simple string (as opposed to a date). E.g. in filenames.
AmbroseGudmaker
Tbh computers can easily sort any arrangement of dates anyhows. If it's an actual timestamp they need to convert stuff anyway as those work>
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
YYYY-mm-ddTHH:mm:ss.mmm+ZZZZ or riot.
Xenarion
Yup. It's ISO 8601 or GTFO.
Potatopeelerkind
Well, only if you're dealing with datasets that span multiple years, which often isn't the case.
Plamf
Are we really attempting to rationalise this? American then?
DarkUranium
By what logic? YYYY-MM-DD and M/D/Y are equivalent if you drop the year entirely.
SvarvSven
In my limited experience (self employed since 94), multiple years of data is most often the case. ^^
mormacil
Book keeping? Taxes? Medical history? Building code history? Historic crop yield?