SkyPigeon123
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Jul 22, 2026 12:23 PM
SkyPigeon123
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Ambipolar
Let me tell you about a lil guy called Peter.
No navy? No naval port? No Problem!
(Serfs up!)
Shoutrr
and at no point there was any attempt at forming a personnel to fit the ships
TheMoonBnuuy
(Tony Stark built this ins a cave with a box of scraps energy)
America was able to build at over 6000 in 5 years, while waging war on two fronts, with concrete and disposable razor blades!
wherethehorriblethingsare
Is that like envious but more of the not-caring variety?
duktayp
Starring Jared Leto as Stalin
keyblader1985
It's Stalin' Time!
PostalHeathen
Even if they could've built that many ships in that amount of time, I wouldn't have wanted to sail on any of them. The Russians/Soviets have never, in their entire history, been good at boat stuff.
LeekofLegend
There are a couple submarines that would disagree lol
PostalHeathen
Then again, looking at what other countries have done with Russian/Soviet ships and designs derived from them, their navy has the same problem as the rest of their military hardware. Russian equipment is fine so long as it's not being operated by Russians.
CheesecakePi
To be fair, there's a LOT of things the Soviets were not good with. Planes, tanks, feeding people... even with military small arms, they admittedly had the AK, PPSH-41, and Dushka- which were all fantastic- and then everything else which was pretty much mediocre at best, and a pile of hot shit at worst.
KarateCanine
Well that is just simply not true lol. That's like saying the US sucks at boats because of all the accidents they've had..... For example. The US has lost 16 subs to accidents. The soviets lost 17. The soviets had 3-4x as many subs. 727 to 212. The percentage of lost subs is much higher for the US. But saying the US sucks at subs is just dumb. I'm not even going to bother you guess in which country you were educated.
KarateCanine
I love being right, and having people get mad at indisputable facts
thescottishfox
In all fairness he did look at USA's WWII ship production and thought that if America could do it so could the Russians.
beenbannedb4
And proving he wasn't aware at all of what's needed to achieve such results; IOW, he was clueless and squandered resources that could have been better used to develop his country. And he did that repeatedly, in several endeavors.
TheMoonBnuuy
He wasn't even asking for all that much. 600 in 10 years is less than 5% of what America demonstrated as its production capabilities in WW2
detectivepopcornmmmmm
TheMoonBnuuy
Calm down John McAfee
Antrobus55
That's been the Russian problem forever. Beginning with Peter the Great they've been envious of the West but have struggled to compete. For whatever reason they are registrant or unable to let go of enough cultural baggage to become actually European.
xXxX66SICKXxXx
So basically Russia’s biggest problem is that they’re Russian?
Antrobus55
Well, the Scandinavians had to let go of the Viking lore, the English, French, Dutch and so forth have had to accept reality, along with the Greeks, Portuguese, Italians and Spaniards. But someone in Moscow is always tryna do "we're an empire," so yeah.
PTKrieg
In anti-fairness, America went into WWII with a virtual embarrassment of riches when it came to year-round deep water ports and civilian shipbuilding assets. The Soviets had a lot less of a base to start with on that front.
boevis
The WWII D-Ration bar was initially produced by hand packing the mold because the chocolate didn't pour. By the time we were landing troops, Hershey could make 700,000 a week. At the height of production, they could make several million per week.
thescottishfox
Yes. Which is why I used the phrase, "Thought that," to imply that Russia was not able toactually do it.
cambriago13
Oooh, that's gulag talk! To Siberia with you!
LeekofLegend
Ok so real talk, y'all ever think about the dominos connecting back then to now? And like how if we ever actually just gave certain countries full on help rather than figuring out how to take advantage of their struggles, like how wildly different this timeline could have been?
PTKrieg
Admittedly, it does get a little daunting thinking back over the full span of causes and effects when it comes to modern affairs, with the ramifications of some actions taking literal centuries to completely play out. Unfortunately, I don't think we can expect any better than "enlightened self-interest", since anyone not putting themselves first to at least some degree isn't going to accumulate the power needed to address big, global problems.
LeekofLegend
It really does seem like we're just always gonna kinda be semi fuckd up, huh? The plight of the position of ruler/leader always comes back to my mind - the idea where the best ones for the roles want to be as far from them as possible, and the ones who want it the most should be kept the furthest away. That's why I think we should force Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert to take the office