Doesn't quite work I feel. You may own imgur but we are imgur. This sounds like they own us. You may own the horse but i am the horse. You may own the car but I am the car. See the problem?
Just so you know, Imgur is a hosting site and the vast majority of its users don't interact with "the community" at all. In fact, most people would actually consider it an improvement to the site if the social features were to be removed.
Trouble is, considering the state of modern capitalism, I'd bet they don't care about the site or even potential ad income because there's probably some bullshit accounting trick/tax loophole that will make it more valuable to them if Imgur fails.
If it keeps plodding along and gets some ad income for them, fine. When it falls apart, and they can sell off the copper in the walls, even better.
They own both ends of the loan process for this venture. They only lose money if, somehow, Imgur becomes a perfectly balanced entity that neither loses nor gains money. Otherwise, they use losses to flatten ttax load, load and use profits to pad the sale price of the assets. The only way to beat them is to be average, go unsold, and drain their maintenance budget over years and years, but then they make ad revenue from the porn and scam ads they're serving us.
This is exactly how some venture capitol takeovers work: they leverage the loan used to purchase the company against the company's existing debt so when it goes bankrupt it doesn't touch the investors at all. They just collect the profits until it's time to fire-sale what's left because the court says so. It's a pretty standard practice these days.
They said the Red Lobster bankruptcies were because of the endless shrimp promo. What really happened was a venture capital company bought them, made them sell every property they owned, pocketed the profit then let them fail because they had to lease back the property they owned.
imgur is pretty dead, tbh. I check it out once in a while. But top of the front page posts have like 400 upvotes. That was 15,000 8 years ago. Most of the content, like everywhere, feels like it's a small percentage of mega-users, bots, and trolls. Reddit is much the same with content issues, but beneath the heaps of garbage there's still people.
The 15k numbers were probably the tail end of being inherently linked to Reddit. That switch happened like 9 years ago or so. Imgur when isolated as it's own thing was ALWAYS much much smaller scale. It is even smaller now though, for sure.
Ironically, Tumblr seems to be holding up relatively well. I looked back at my old account I made for some unknown reason ages back, and while the 'homepage' feed now basically looks like bluesky or twitter, the 'explore' seems to be much more like Imgur's grid-like content feed. And not a single piece of AI slop to be found that I could identify.
Yea there's s3nd.pics which seems to be the best alternative at the moment. There's also cdn.imgpile.com but it doesn't seem to be as community oriented as a platform. There's also imgcat.io but it's still in some kind of semi closed beta state.
A lot more like old imgur. If I recall correctly the person who spun it off is someone who was active in the community since those days (we're talking like at least 10 years ago) and bringing back that environment was their main reason to make their own site.
svga
ehhhhhhh okay
neutronnefarious
Doesn't quite work I feel. You may own imgur but we are imgur. This sounds like they own us. You may own the horse but i am the horse. You may own the car but I am the car. See the problem?
knudude
ShadeMeadowsArt
THIS
Subsound
They rather have bots that dont have their own opinions, free will, or be able to fight back to sell ad space.
Mockingbirb
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eGdlOWtpN2pqczRud2NmY3VveG52bG1ueThhcWxtYWx4M2p1NXpnciZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/f99y5olcAXbQk/200w.webp
TheVillageGrouch9000
The owners do not care as long as it continues to be a revenue stream.
JTechnopotheosis
Yes, but unless a significant number of people walk away and actually stay away, that don't mean shit.
BendOverAndIllShowYa
I am Thundergun. I am Thundergun. I am Thundergun.
Wardonk3y
Reference to myself being owned by someone else notwithstanding, I agree
pothocket
Just so you know, Imgur is a hosting site and the vast majority of its users don't interact with "the community" at all. In fact, most people would actually consider it an improvement to the site if the social features were to be removed.
svga
no problem there; been here over a decade and a half, I contribute but it's getting pretty extreme and icky down here in comment thread land
LariCheltsy
PoliticalWanderer
Trouble is, considering the state of modern capitalism, I'd bet they don't care about the site or even potential ad income because there's probably some bullshit accounting trick/tax loophole that will make it more valuable to them if Imgur fails.
If it keeps plodding along and gets some ad income for them, fine. When it falls apart, and they can sell off the copper in the walls, even better.
Necrothean
They own both ends of the loan process for this venture. They only lose money if, somehow, Imgur becomes a perfectly balanced entity that neither loses nor gains money. Otherwise, they use losses to flatten ttax load, load and use profits to pad the sale price of the assets. The only way to beat them is to be average, go unsold, and drain their maintenance budget over years and years, but then they make ad revenue from the porn and scam ads they're serving us.
ZebadiahCarter
This is exactly how some venture capitol takeovers work: they leverage the loan used to purchase the company against the company's existing debt so when it goes bankrupt it doesn't touch the investors at all. They just collect the profits until it's time to fire-sale what's left because the court says so. It's a pretty standard practice these days.
11Weasel11
They said the Red Lobster bankruptcies were because of the endless shrimp promo. What really happened was a venture capital company bought them, made them sell every property they owned, pocketed the profit then let them fail because they had to lease back the property they owned.
FaptainPicard
imgur is pretty dead, tbh. I check it out once in a while. But top of the front page posts have like 400 upvotes. That was 15,000 8 years ago. Most of the content, like everywhere, feels like it's a small percentage of mega-users, bots, and trolls. Reddit is much the same with content issues, but beneath the heaps of garbage there's still people.
svga
heisrightyouknow.morganfreeman.meme
Ventorath
The 15k numbers were probably the tail end of being inherently linked to Reddit. That switch happened like 9 years ago or so. Imgur when isolated as it's own thing was ALWAYS much much smaller scale. It is even smaller now though, for sure.
Antifalalalala
Imgurians own the means of production.
svga
Imguarians own the Meme's* of production
Antifalalalala
Perfect.
Vebrandsson
There's alternatives out there that popped up after the last FUBD incident. It's been tempting to just go elsewhere.
Ebo352
I'll be matriculating over at some point since my anti-nazi post didn't get published and no bans for the folks downvoting anti-nazi posts
sv1rr
So, there is another alternative, but browsing newest is sickening. There's A LOT of CP. I would not recommend.
DALLASLAVOWNER
S 3 N D dot pics is coming along nicely
AutismoOfAstora
second this, devs are super prompt and the site is coming along nicely
Hexarcy00
Hit me with alternatives
HowlingRollercoaster2
Vger.app
Vebrandsson
s3nd.pics is currently the best actually working alternative. Imgcat.io is still in a closed test phase but also seems promising.
Hexarcy00
I hope imgcat actually happens. They have been promising big things for ~6 months
CitrusyGarlic
You mean, actually good alternatives? And not just iFunny or all the 9gag-like garbage sites, did someone finally Bluesky Imgur?
ButtscratchMcPherson
I think Photobucket is still around.
HowlingRollercoaster2
I have been enjoying Lemmy aka vger.app
Ivain
Ironically, Tumblr seems to be holding up relatively well. I looked back at my old account I made for some unknown reason ages back, and while the 'homepage' feed now basically looks like bluesky or twitter, the 'explore' seems to be much more like Imgur's grid-like content feed. And not a single piece of AI slop to be found that I could identify.
StarscreamAndHutch
S3nd.pics is the best alternative right now.
Xenarion
I've seen some suggested here but none that really look good IMO.
psugab
S3ndpics isn't bad from the few times I've been. Imgpile is a lot of underage/CP type stuff and people are reporting the site.
Vebrandsson
Yea there's s3nd.pics which seems to be the best alternative at the moment. There's also cdn.imgpile.com but it doesn't seem to be as community oriented as a platform. There's also imgcat.io but it's still in some kind of semi closed beta state.
psugab
Didn't go to imgpile. Full of kids pictures. Report it and stay away
Vebrandsson
Ah. Was not aware. Noted and thanks for the info
tinydog
S3ND is quite lovely this time of year.
EnderKing567
Just tried signing up and logging in, but it ain't letting me. Is it active or just in beta (so there's problems)?
tinydog
It's active, but still being fleshed out. It was just created within the past few months.
EnderKing567
Damn, hope they set up a donation box or something. I would literally pay for a alt to Imgur.
Table5
How would you rate it compared to current imgur vs old imgur?
Blud4BludGod
A lot more like old imgur. If I recall correctly the person who spun it off is someone who was active in the community since those days (we're talking like at least 10 years ago) and bringing back that environment was their main reason to make their own site.
Table5
Interesting. TY. And yet you're still here? Good, but not good enough to take you away fully?