Others for context/comparison: https://www.tiktok.com/@cayleependerass/video/7391186863995817258 https://www.tiktok.com/@cayleependerass/video/7382032338298981675
Omg, a friend showed this to me at work and I kinda died inside, those are some really nice calipers what the hell, you just set us women machinists back years with that stupidity!
You can get perfectly decent calipers now for just a few bucks, which takes away the need to be precious about it. So I have some that are only used for measuring, and I have some that are used for scribing and marking (usually this just means it's one I've retired from precision work because I hurt it somehow, cracked the screen or dropped it or whatever) I'd never use one for the other job but it's no different really to having sharp chisels and butchered old chisels.
(I can't id the tool in the video- can't see it well enough, don't recognise the box. If it's a nicer tool then I retract but if it's an everyday usable cheapo tool then I say tools are for using.
That's a Mitutoyo Digimatic. I have the same one. Cost ~$150
Also, you definitely can not get "good" calipers for a few bucks, by my definition of good. I need calipers to reliably measure to +/- 0.0005" (outside measurements) when used properly. I also need them to remain accurate for years.
If you only need to know +/- 0.010" in wood or plastic, you can use the cheap stuff. When building real stuff, you need the good ones (and anything closer than ~0.003 should be checked with more than just calipers)
That's not even the whole clip, it's cropped. The reason for the hole was to use it so her drill doesn't wander, and she couldn't even do that at the end.
Don’t be a dumb ass, explain the problem with what they do and show them the proper way. Way more beneficial than getting some fake points from strangers of similar ilk.
Yeah, but the presumable point of this hack is "oops, I don't have my center punch, but I have these calipers that are also hardened"... Except why would you even HAVE broken calipers with you?
I keep whispering to myself, "they must have already been damaged, and she's posting as a joke. Yeah, that has to be it. They were already broken. No way anyone would actually do that if it wasn't a bit."
I am unfamiliar with her. If this is a joke, boy howdy, it got me. The box is right there on the table, so I assume those are the "good ones."
I don't think of it as a gender thing. Some of my fav yootoobers get comments about how they handle tools, using calipers to make marks and such. No matter how you do it, someone won't like it.
I've also used sunscreen and eyeliner before because I had them in my pocket and it worked. Couldn't stop the job just cause I didn't have approved markers. I wouldn't use a good pair of calipers for this and I don't care how many extras I own.
They're also still useful for cases where the precision doesn't matter, like woodwork, or check the size of rough factory and/or scrap surface stock whose dimension's variance is eleventy billion times the precision of the working calipers. "I can still use them." Can't throw out a still useful thing even if you'll still never use them bc you'll just use the more useful working ones anyway. Same deal as 1 working ear earbuds; still useful as long as you don't use 'em to listen to The Beatles
Honestly, I had broken a couple sets of calipers from what I'm assuming was just overuse and normal wear. One was a digital set and the little roller or whatever it is on the inside that measured its movement was slipping. The other was a cheap af manual set, and the numbers/lines were painted instead of imprinted, so when they wore out, that set was dead.
You get your tools calibrated, the simplest option being buying a small calibration block, that's kept in a safe box most of the year. Then occasionally you'll need to get someone external to calibrate your calibration block.
Both, and that the tips come to a sharp point to measure accurately, which have now been slightly flattened. Which is why they also should never be used as a scribe to scratch a line along the edge of something at a set width.
Both? All? They are expensive. This will destroy the accuracy and calibration of they continue to function at all. They are absolutely not intended or rated or designed as impact tools. And the damage cannot be repaired (throw em in the trash). Imagine buying a 300$ ruler and breaking it in half trying to use it as a crowbar.
initial search was just for a black and yellow caliper, but noticed the box on the table after your comment, says Mituoyo (obscured by the edge of the screen) Digimatic caliper
yeah, but in another tiktok clip, in which she is abusing the chinese pair of caliper she shows of both a set of proper Mituoy caliper and some cheap chinese knockoffs.
Alternatively, get a fucking actual punch. The right tool for the right job will save you a lot of headaches in the long run. Like buying new tools because you keep using them wrong. Then again, their tool, their money..
Lol what?! Jokes on me? I work in high-precision manufacturing and your hobby calipers would screw me over with their unreliability and lack of significant accuracy.
Roll call. Who here like dial calipers, and who likes digital?
Personally, if I’m on the mill or lathe I want dial, hands down. Always prefer them. But I admit digital are convenient for conversion when I’m hopping between metric and imperial drawings (a sin in its own right).
Dial, I can’t explain why but I just prefer them. Digital is better for when you need to measure a difference or depth since zeroing them is just a button
Why not both? I love cheapo digi calipers, they're good enough most of the time so the really nice stuff can stay out of sight and I'm not tempted to overuse them and nobody else "borrows" them.
Exactly. Sure, they will wear out 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘢 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘦, but if you treat them right you can recover from an apocalypse, and honestly, any tool that hits that benchmark is good enough.
Depends on what I'm doing. If I'm inspecting a lot of the same part, I like the mindlessness of the dial. Just look to see if the needle goes to the same place. If I'm doing unique measurements, I like the digital.
I like digital fine, but I actually use my set that only has vernier markings most often. (Like the Mitutoyo 522-601) Maybe that makes me a hipster engineer. I tried them after a recommendation by This Old Tony and really like them.
while these are obviously not an awl or a punch my biggest issue is how delicate the digital calipers are. Whacking them like this will throw them out of alignment & subsequent measurements are off. I hope those are her calipers, but I have doubts. Sincerely, a Jeweler.
Just a general note… If you think calipers are delicate you might be buying cheap calipers. That said, obviously nobody builds calipers to withstand hammer impacts.
Like, I’ve never had dial calipers break on me from use. I view them as no more delicate than a hard drive or a magnifying glass, or most other precision tools. Dont drop it, but otherwise? Like, not as delicate as a feeler gauge, shit.
As someone who works in a factory. If you misshandle calipers or accidentally drop them it's off to maintenance for checking and if it is fixable recalibration. Most that goes to maintenance aren't coming back. "oh that coating that should go on the product is a fraction of a millimeter off. The products we have been producing the last few days needs to be scrapped. And we already have a backlog."
My coworkers often dropped them on counters & the floor. I’ve lost count at how many sets we ordered over the years. We don’t buy cheap ones. They are delicate measuring instruments for when fractions of millimeters genuinely matter & mistakes can mean thousands of dollars. Slamming them around breaks them. Note: The ones I prefer are not digital & are easily recalibrated. I suggest some like these https://www.ottofrei.com/products/diamond-gauge-by-micromat-formerly-leveridge-gauge-with-book
SepiaSkies
Oh my god thats a Mitutoyo. I know this creator is super competent, so this is ragebait but still - I am having some big feelings
stshank
A little background on the caliper video: It's a joke from a very mechanically skilled individual. Original video: https://www.tiktok.com/@cayleependerass/video/7396315927987359022
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https://www.tiktok.com/@cayleependerass/video/7382032338298981675
Urgalicity
Well, those calipers are ruined. Way to go "engineer", this is what I mean when I say they don't even teach em how to use a screwdriver.
DiracsDelta
As an engineer who as very familiar with wide ranges of tools, I share in your frustration with my “peers”.
4vie
That lady should be prosecuted for crimes of aggression against tools.
Sheldonian
squishybaker
I winced, how dare you mistreat precision tools.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Omg, a friend showed this to me at work and I kinda died inside, those are some really nice calipers what the hell, you just set us women machinists back years with that stupidity!
Iblamemyparentstoo
That said, I'd expect no less from an engineer.
69thStPepper
This kills the calipers
Debberz
illmx
Kingstonboy
GTFOADCB
TheSaltyCaptain
Crazy how we can come across an acronym we'd never seen before yet instantly understand it.
Kingstonboy
WYSIWYG - try this one.
Jagernot
What you say is what you get?
Kingstonboy
What you see...
Otomasoteraph
I can understand that poor guy
Shaows
Isn't this Square Hole girl?
Shaows
hotaru251
or you nkow what else?? You the correct fkn tool? theres literally a center punch whos job is to make a point into material :|
nxrble
soon as that hammer hit OUT OF CALIBRATION
splud
Crap, now I need to google how to calibrate a hammer. I did not know that was a thing.
nxrble
ASTM STP32183S is a good start; set the test and affirm with the standard ✌🏼
Northwindlowlander
You can get perfectly decent calipers now for just a few bucks, which takes away the need to be precious about it. So I have some that are only used for measuring, and I have some that are used for scribing and marking (usually this just means it's one I've retired from precision work because I hurt it somehow, cracked the screen or dropped it or whatever) I'd never use one for the other job but it's no different really to having sharp chisels and butchered old chisels.
Northwindlowlander
(I can't id the tool in the video- can't see it well enough, don't recognise the box. If it's a nicer tool then I retract but if it's an everyday usable cheapo tool then I say tools are for using.
GKerr
That's a Mitutoyo Digimatic. I have the same one. Cost ~$150
Also, you definitely can not get "good" calipers for a few bucks, by my definition of good. I need calipers to reliably measure to +/- 0.0005" (outside measurements) when used properly. I also need them to remain accurate for years.
I'm a cheap-ass, with many harbor freight tools,
GKerr
Well, it posted while I was typing.
If you only need to know +/- 0.010" in wood or plastic, you can use the cheap stuff. When building real stuff, you need the good ones (and anything closer than ~0.003 should be checked with more than just calipers)
StopCallingMeIAmNotYourBrother
Or you can take her credit card and buy a new pair so she understands that a good pair of calipers costs more than all of her make-up together.
michBeast
Has to be ragebait
whitebbwolf
elvisdumbledore
This content creator is a treasure. She 100% knew what she was doing. :D
Girl1inturrupted
It is, and the guy stitching is in on the joke. She's an engineer!
Elkarlo77
Yes looked through it, what a pain until she showed that those are cheap chinese ones.
crodrigues
right? everyone knows calipers are meant to be used to scribe lines on steel bar stock, not to punch centers.
keyserv
Congratulations, your calipers are now completely fucked. Don't bother taking an extra 3 seconds to pick up a punch that is designed for that, either.
rezexelon
I would literally murder anyone that did that to my calipers.
littlecoatfatguy
I struggle to believe this isn’t ragebait.
baldpope
elvisdumbledore
https://www.tiktok.com/@cayleependerass
richardstinks
I made the same face before his face popped up. That lady is not allowed around any of my tools.
celestedrake
Yeah.
carr99
Around any tools
TheGodEmperorOfChaos
That's not even the whole clip, it's cropped. The reason for the hole was to use it so her drill doesn't wander, and she couldn't even do that at the end.
CyanideBreathMint
Don’t be a dumb ass, explain the problem with what they do and show them the proper way. Way more beneficial than getting some fake points from strangers of similar ilk.
darkninja2992
I think i actually felt my blood pressure shift after processing what she did
petresun
My eyes grew 2 sizes larger and I started sweating because I realized what she was gonna do.
imakesoap
I gasped and scared my cat
DrQui
I have a microscope and it has a pretty heavy flat base. Should I start hitting nails with it?
DevCatOTA
My wife would smack her.
maddmurph
Same.
IgnisInvictus
No. Just no. Use your BROKEN calipers maybe... not the ones that freaking work. Those are precision instruments.
This was painful.
vegivamp
Yeah, but the presumable point of this hack is "oops, I don't have my center punch, but I have these calipers that are also hardened"... Except why would you even HAVE broken calipers with you?
IgnisInvictus
... I have broken calipers. It's a hoarding / recycling / farming thing.
Anything that could be useful, you keep. Springs from a trampoline, fabric from old Carharts, expired caulk.
Springs are useful everywhere, I use the fabric to patch other pants, caulk doesn't go bad just because it says it does.
vegivamp
Yeah, but how often do you have them on hand in a place where you would not have an actual center punch on hand as well.
Donoiw
nclu
I keep whispering to myself, "they must have already been damaged, and she's posting as a joke. Yeah, that has to be it. They were already broken. No way anyone would actually do that if it wasn't a bit."
tigoisactuallymynameontheperiodictable
That lady is actually an awesome engineer and this video takes one of her jokes and reduces it to a gender stereotype
CanOnlySayYes
Oh, so as per fucking usual, @OP doesnt even bother with the source, but also has a really cringe worthy title on top of it. Epic!
richardstinks
I am unfamiliar with her. If this is a joke, boy howdy, it got me. The box is right there on the table, so I assume those are the "good ones."
I don't think of it as a gender thing. Some of my fav yootoobers get comments about how they handle tools, using calipers to make marks and such. No matter how you do it, someone won't like it.
thamagorian
https://www.tiktok.com/@cayleependerass/video/7396701825166232878 is another of her videos, that explains it a bit better.
CreativeThief
And then you clamp it down with your micrometre. /s
4vie
Yes, officer, there's the criminal.
bassaro
You have to use a lot of them though, just one doesn't stand up to much shear force.
androgenoide
Precision C clamp.
PrastaryOrk
Mal1t1a
RaftingRyan
I flinched when she did it.
iamthemanwithnoname
In fairness I have like 5 pairs of broken calipers in my toolbox. This gives them a purpose I suppose.
mas0chist
Broken or just a dead battery? Mechies... xD
iamthemanwithnoname
Sometimes it's a loose battery, but I am electro- mechanical so can fix some sparky issues.
mas0chist
That explains it xD I know a few mechies that could pass for a sparks
Urgalicity
Those sir are children's toys or door stops now. Or at best a shitty set of scribes.
IgnisInvictus
I've also used sunscreen and eyeliner before because I had them in my pocket and it worked. Couldn't stop the job just cause I didn't have approved markers. I wouldn't use a good pair of calipers for this and I don't care how many extras I own.
Barasu
Yeah but those look like the mitoyo calipers which are too and cost around 250 dollars ouch
JAVSmasher
Genuine question but can you rework one to have a flat and tip point to be purposed for what the vid showed?
iamthemanwithnoname
Yeah. It'd be worse than a mark tool but you could do it
JAVSmasher
I see. Thanks for the reply. o7
DarthAndy
Why do you keep the broken ones? Is it to lend to idiots?
Icommentandpostmypets
I know my lab does to have readily available spare parts.
iamthemanwithnoname
General hording brain. "Can't throw these away, never know when I'll need broken calipers"
50m31AW
They're also still useful for cases where the precision doesn't matter, like woodwork, or check the size of rough factory and/or scrap surface stock whose dimension's variance is eleventy billion times the precision of the working calipers. "I can still use them." Can't throw out a still useful thing even if you'll still never use them bc you'll just use the more useful working ones anyway. Same deal as 1 working ear earbuds; still useful as long as you don't use 'em to listen to The Beatles
Shutupandpour
I have to ask. How do you break calipers?
Elkarlo77
I have a broken analog caliper, the scale got lose so it is no longer a precision instrument. It is 30 years old.
MCNewYorkLives
By doing this
theshinobi23
Honestly, I had broken a couple sets of calipers from what I'm assuming was just overuse and normal wear. One was a digital set and the little roller or whatever it is on the inside that measured its movement was slipping. The other was a cheap af manual set, and the numbers/lines were painted instead of imprinted, so when they wore out, that set was dead.
iamthemanwithnoname
They are no longer accurately calibrated. The metal wears down, the roller slips. I am doing high precision work so a 0.5mm inaccuracy is too much.
LeggoMyEggoJudas
I agree .5mm is too much inaccuracy but how do you wear them down that much? Are you measuring sandpaper?
metalmouth
How do you find out? Measure your calipers with a new caliper?
Legrooveth
You get your tools calibrated, the simplest option being buying a small calibration block, that's kept in a safe box most of the year. Then occasionally you'll need to get someone external to calibrate your calibration block.
incorrectrectum
That really does not seem like precision at all... I'm doing fairly ordinary milling and anymore than 0.1mm on a measuring tool is not acceptable.
swellerelk
Even .1 seems like a mile to me, but I don't use calipers. *Someone who measures in microns
HumansArePrettyNeat
we'd do stuff to the .001 or .0001 of an inchin valves
Bossvoss
Is he mad because this messes with the calibration or just so expensive that you would never risk it?
AnalFistingPornstarLegendWolverine
Yes.
TheMouseOfMadness
Both, and that the tips come to a sharp point to measure accurately, which have now been slightly flattened. Which is why they also should never be used as a scribe to scratch a line along the edge of something at a set width.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Scribing is fine. But scribe ink, not for gouging the metal
DiracsDelta
Both? All? They are expensive. This will destroy the accuracy and calibration of they continue to function at all. They are absolutely not intended or rated or designed as impact tools. And the damage cannot be repaired (throw em in the trash).
Imagine buying a 300$ ruler and breaking it in half trying to use it as a crowbar.
HarryBeauner
Say you have a tool that measures precise measurements(9/108). Now, I want you to smack it with a hammer.
Ionico
Boom, 250 bucks gone. Cuz I am never using that.
kohrah
How's the solid gold calipers? I hear they're too soft to use and lose precision long-term.
maddmurph
Caliper Sales People love this trick!
seamuspip
HAHAHAHAHA
grezmos
Fake mitutoyos are around $25 and these are almost certainly those for this obvious joke.
MasterMookie
Yupp can't trust those calipers anymore.
rbudrick
I think they are like 15 to 25 bucks at harbor freight. Mine seems exactly as accurate as the expensive one I was given once.
DumpsterSauce
Why not? They're apparently a good hole punch now
Ionico
Well... ya... now they are... :(
IgnisInvictus
Three times max.
psmith00
and it has a handle so you don't accidentally hit your finger holding it
Broonstar
This is them by the looks of it https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/calipers/2455676
thamagorian
I would guess https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/150mm-200mm-300mm-DIN862-Electronic-Vernier_1600471555522.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.60115cf65HQJPF rather.
Broonstar
initial search was just for a black and yellow caliper, but noticed the box on the table after your comment, says Mituoyo (obscured by the edge of the screen) Digimatic caliper
thamagorian
yeah, but in another tiktok clip, in which she is abusing the chinese pair of caliper she shows of both a set of proper Mituoy caliper and some cheap chinese knockoffs.
grezmos
Or more likely a fake, £25 on ebay and quite a lot of the "used" ones on Gumtree.
Ionico
In fairness you can get the ( junior level ) for about 100. But I only use the higher end ones.
stew9703
She definitely has a high end set (the guy doesn't though) I actually work with the pair she has and have the pair he has at home.
ViperMD
Alternatively, get a fucking actual punch. The right tool for the right job will save you a lot of headaches in the long run. Like buying new tools because you keep using them wrong. Then again, their tool, their money..
iamlegendinjapan
Joke's on you. My calipers were like 25 if that. It suits my needs for hobby 3D printing. Nothing fancy
JayEnfield
The calipers being used in this video currently retail for $168 on Amazon.
kawkamawaq
Ouch!
grezmos
They are almost certainly fake ones or they were already dropped.
JayEnfield
Agreed.
Ionico
Lol what?! Jokes on me? I work in high-precision manufacturing and your hobby calipers would screw me over with their unreliability and lack of significant accuracy.
tekcor
Well sure. But for 3D printing, you're never reaching the level of accuracy that better calipers would matter.
iamlegendinjapan
I would still never hit mine with a hammer
Ionico
DiracsDelta
Roll call. Who here like dial calipers, and who likes digital?
Personally, if I’m on the mill or lathe I want dial, hands down. Always prefer them. But I admit digital are convenient for conversion when I’m hopping between metric and imperial drawings (a sin in its own right).
CompletelyUniqueUsername
Digital. By a lot. And for 99% of uses cheap ones are fine. Also it's good to have a cheap one specifically for being abused.
Elyeli
Dial, I can’t explain why but I just prefer them. Digital is better for when you need to measure a difference or depth since zeroing them is just a button
jridley
Digital for calipers. Also for my precision (.000005) micrometer. Dial indicators and less precise micrometers, I like dial.
LittlePinkAnimal
When working I use digital. At home I use whatever is closest.
Northwindlowlander
Why not both? I love cheapo digi calipers, they're good enough most of the time so the really nice stuff can stay out of sight and I'm not tempted to overuse them and nobody else "borrows" them.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Rotary dial, in/mm dual scale. All the convenience wiithout the batteries.
FallingStar7669
Exactly. Sure, they will wear out 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘢 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘦, but if you treat them right you can recover from an apocalypse, and honestly, any tool that hits that benchmark is good enough.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Hm, I suppose you mean the teeth on the rack and pinion.
longjohnsilicon
I have both. I find I tend to use the digital to measure existing parts, and analog for stuff I'm making.
hadan8088
Still learning metric and I'm not really up on thousandsthsths of 64nds so I like the digital ones.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Thousandths are the closest measurement to metric in scale.
hadan8088
So just go metric, got it.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Yup
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Depends on what I'm doing. If I'm inspecting a lot of the same part, I like the mindlessness of the dial. Just look to see if the needle goes to the same place. If I'm doing unique measurements, I like the digital.
michaelrcolton
I like digital fine, but I actually use my set that only has vernier markings most often. (Like the Mitutoyo 522-601) Maybe that makes me a hipster engineer. I tried them after a recommendation by This Old Tony and really like them.
DiracsDelta
Fuck dude. Vernier calipers are the real deal.
michaelrcolton
You know it!
smorsdoeuvres
while these are obviously not an awl or a punch my biggest issue is how delicate the digital calipers are. Whacking them like this will throw them out of alignment & subsequent measurements are off.
I hope those are her calipers, but I have doubts.
Sincerely, a Jeweler.
DiracsDelta
Just a general note… If you think calipers are delicate you might be buying cheap calipers. That said, obviously nobody builds calipers to withstand hammer impacts.
DiracsDelta
Like, I’ve never had dial calipers break on me from use. I view them as no more delicate than a hard drive or a magnifying glass, or most other precision tools. Dont drop it, but otherwise? Like, not as delicate as a feeler gauge, shit.
MasterMookie
As someone who works in a factory. If you misshandle calipers or accidentally drop them it's off to maintenance for checking and if it is fixable recalibration. Most that goes to maintenance aren't coming back. "oh that coating that should go on the product is a fraction of a millimeter off. The products we have been producing the last few days needs to be scrapped. And we already have a backlog."
smorsdoeuvres
My coworkers often dropped them on counters & the floor. I’ve lost count at how many sets we ordered over the years.
We don’t buy cheap ones.
They are delicate measuring instruments for when fractions of millimeters genuinely matter & mistakes can mean thousands of dollars. Slamming them around breaks them.
Note:
The ones I prefer are not digital
& are easily recalibrated. I suggest some like these https://www.ottofrei.com/products/diamond-gauge-by-micromat-formerly-leveridge-gauge-with-book