WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
95899
1059
22
This case is disgusting, and for the sake of those who don't want to know, I won't post the story below. You can read more at the source though:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62158357
But what resonated with me was how a Republican - Jimmy Gymshorts Jordan - can immediately and baselessly discredit a story, and then quietly reverse course when it becomes apparent that this will be a "bad take".
Public figures NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR LIBEL. That is a crucial, unavoidable step towards stemming the spread of misinformation. It does not impinge in any way whatsoever on freedom of speech.
Side note: now that it's more beneficial to confirm the story rather than deny it, you can 100% bet that he will pivot to the offender's immigration status, and not even try to defend the horror of state-mandated child pregnancy.
IrishCyko
Gym Jordan covering up sexual abuse? Well I'm shocked.... /s
JohannesParabola
Wasn't sure about this story bc of the lack of info. Then I realized I just wanted it to not be true. Why? Because it's disgustingly inhuman
kaarbaakimgr
Who is the aggrieved party?
bigtexhand
"Listen up buddy, I'm an expert on child rape!" - Gym Jordan
PiercedViking
Has Fox News already shifted to the "Well, look how she was dressed! She was obviously asking for it!!" narrative, yet?
bourbonandbaddecisions
Gym Jordan let his students get raped and tried to cover it up. He won’t care about a 10 year old he doesn’t know.
gobbin
Cut his dick off.
Abi53
that's so fucking disgusting
poscduke
ERselly
Indy star- the same company that took down Larry Nassar? Can they do Gym Jordan next??
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I've been thinking every time a politician makes a statement as a representative it should be considered legally binding.
BigMuskie77
What if politicians had a 90 day no delete feature on social media? Anything they say must stay posted for 90 days before it can be deleted.
wadatahmydamie
Conservatives are fighting for this guy’s right to be a dad.
SageSalven
And to get shared custody, like he won't rape his granddaughter too. And the mom should totally have to face her rapist baby daddy everyday
[deleted]
[deleted]
HumbabaEpic2
DuckPlanetKing
Yes I do.
mt77932
I just threw up in my mouth
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Be a real baller, throw up in their mouths.
Ninjainslippers
This comment thread took a nice turn. I needed some levity.
GlenL
Prominent pedophile defender defends pedophile, film at 11
ALG0RIDDUM
There are some states worse than other but there aren't many worse than ohio.
Heavenissize17socks
Libel doesn"t exist anymore. It's a product of the other, better timeline.
HPCmonkey
Look, Gym Jordan is a complete piece of shit. I still struggle to understand how you can call a scummy tweet as libel, though.
Scientist99
I'm hated Gym Jordan with a passion since I first saw and heard about him. Ain't a pit deep enough in hell for the likes of him.
hotaru251
GOP on laws: It didn't happen how u think ti happened...unless it looks bad and is confirmed and then we'll act like we agree with it.
cabalin
The proud Papa
Hexrowe
I quite object to the use of "questioned" and "sceptic", here! Outright declaring it a lie was neither questioning nor skeptical.
max9275ii
Coach must’ve left his republican playbook in the rape locker room, bcuz come on, Fuentes? These clowns love an excuse to “build the wall!”
TravelinSoulja
There's a difference between healthy skepticism and being an asshole
Gosuamakenatek
The right were so willing to die on the hill of this one story being fake, as if that would mean it can never happen for real.
Gosuamakenatek
I guess burying their heads in the sand and pretending it's fake is easier than justifying why a 10 year old should be forced to give birth.
aloharamada
I'd also wager they just don't have a concept of how common this actually is and thought the timing was just "too convenient to be true".
activeracer28
All the conservative forums say he is an illegal immigrant. Anyone know? Or do they see a Mexican criminal and assume?
DuckPlanetKing
He isn’t Mexican, he is from Guatemala.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Per the article above, an ICE agent is the source. Doesn't make a lie impossible, but on the balance it appears to be the case.
jekath
I believe he did it. I do. But still it doesn't sit right with me to spread his name and picture before conviction.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Apologies. If it sits any better with you, he has made an admission of guilt, per the article. And there's no "grey area" with a 10yo.
jekath
I agree. And I don't think this will be mob justice at all. I think he did it. But I don't think the courts should go public with names 1/
jekath
and pics until conviction. Because sometimes they are wrong. Even with admission of guilt.
PostalHeathen
I'm surprised that the rapist wasn't a family member. It usually is in these cases. In any case, as you said, all the right's attention /1
mycatsings
The Supreme Court rules that the 10 year old girl was dressed in provocative attire thereby causing the rape ......./S
PostalHeathen
You joke, but some people really do victim blame a child. I've heard it first hand.
Richter12x2
I'm surprised it wasn't Gym Jordan
PostalHeathen
will now focus squarely on the rapists immigration status. That way they can blame it on the democrats while simultaneously minimizing /2
PostalHeathen
what happened to the victim here. Don't let them get away with it! /3
FishieStardust
I am curious as to what the connection is between the victim and rapist, but I know that's not the most important thing right now
Lurkerdraegon
Probably a neighbor someone who was somewhat close BCS he abused her twice. Anyway it does not matter right now only he rots in jail
PostalHeathen
It's usually a family member or a friend of the family. Much rarer for it to be a stranger. I'm wondering if the DNA test is going to /1
StarscreamAndHutch
Pretty sure they are already going after the doctor that initially saw her.
PballQhead
Sorta - the doctor is being investigated for potentially not reporting the rape, *not* for terminating the pregnancy.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
FFS... Source on that?
TheoryOfRelativeTea
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/13/todd-rokita-investigating-caitlin-bernard-reportin/
Tootsie1
We need to stop doxxing people who are helping us. The fascists make lists
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
I would like for this Mr Rokita to be in some way removed from the planet. I am so sad and angry for having read this.
[deleted]
[deleted]
starlord56
cases like this cannot be dealt with reasonably. The argument that it should be used for rape, threat of life, incest..etc. Is fine, the 2
starlord56
issue comes when people use it as their first like of birth control because they can't wrap it up or use any other contraception. Then 3
starlord56
we end up with a good amount of people seeing a moral problem and push back further than what the original argument for abortion wanted 4/4
Greenwaxy
No. It’s what you get when ambition and superstition trump reason and patriotism.
[deleted]
[deleted]
Greenwaxy
Starlord56’s comment.
starlord56
Can you narrow it down, we have gone back an fourth for like 45 comments and about to take it to DMs. Like I am open to discussing it more
Greenwaxy
Ambitious politicians reject all of science and history history in order to pander to their superstitious base. This is why for example Ohio
Einbrecher
I'd love to see the statistics about abortion being used as first line birth control that you're basing this conclusion on.
[deleted]
[deleted]
starlord56
all these groups say is the point of abortion and those are .5% and thats being very generous.Legit how many people have multiple forms fail
Einbrecher
Most of them? Non-viable fetuses, failed birth control, birth control disrupted by antibiotics, unreported rapes, poor sex education and /
Einbrecher
lack of knowledge/access to birth control (usually from abstienence only households) - this list goes fucking on.
[deleted]
[deleted]
starlord56
I didn't like US policies so I moved outside the US to europe because of its social policy,education.Abortion is legal here,but not an issue
starlord56
In the end it got left up to states, and as people always threaten to move, then they can get their asses up and move to a different state.
starlord56
Sure the list goes on, but you know what the underlying issue is. Poor social and educational policy. So lets solve that by more poor policy
unappalled
That’s because he is an illegal immigrant. They’re pushing the abortion angle but won’t report his illegal status.
GlenL
You're a lying sack of shit
GlenL
From the very article you're commenting on "Mr Fuentes is a Guatemalan national and is in the US illegally"
SerenePrincess013
Name relevant? You seem so concerned about his ability to cross a mythical boundary set in place to control the sheeple population, & yet>
SerenePrincess013
Seem completely unfazed by the idea that he raped a child. Get your priorities straight, you fetid fuckwit.
Skye537
Holy shit this users comment history is a shitshow. I'd say troll behaviour but could also just be stupid
Trelis
It's in the article, but how does this change any argument? It's ok to deny a 10 year old abortion because it was an illegal immigrant?
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump, and Gym Jordan are all also sex offenders. They're ok because they're not "illeguls"?
wadatahmydamie
So what you’re saying is that conservatives are torn between helping child molesters become fathers and their Great Replacement narrative.
ryukochan
Tell me you’re unliterate without telling me you’re unliterate. (I believe you can read - just that you don’t.)
ILovedUnicornsFirst
You want to know something funny? I didn’t know, “unliterate,” was an actual word. I assumed what it meant. Just never heard it.
GlenL
There's no time to read when there's pedophiles to defend
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
I mean, it's there in the BBC post. Also, immigration status doesn't make someone a rapist, which was the crime here, so it's a side-story.
YouWillNeverFindMe
Doesn't really matter in the big picture, unless you believe no US citizens rape young girls.
ryukochan
That’s what Y’all-quaeda believes. Sex is men’s right, women & girls are always asking for it, & aren’t actually human anyway, so it’s fine.
YouWillNeverFindMe
I only get turned on when I'm desired and wanted, I don't get how anyone can get horny when forcing themselves on someone... Sociopaths?
ryukochan
People who are ok with rape or dismissive of it definitely have an empathy deficit.
Greenwaxy
There’s a well documented black empathy gap. It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a female empathy gap, too.
tomatoboy
Why don’t you have a seat and explain to the crowd why you think that’s the most important factor in a case involving the rape of a child.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Because he has a brain the size of a lentil and it confirms the biases Fox tells him to have.
GlenL
I'm guessing he's a racist pedophile
PostalHeathen
Every article I've read on this includes that detail. Doesn't matter, it's a red herring to steal focus from the victim being required by /1
PostalHeathen
state law to carry her rapists baby to term regardless of the fact that she's too young for that. /2
boobs675309
a guy rapes a 10 year old, who then has to leave the state for an abortion, but the real crime here is that guy's papers? fuck you
unappalled
Oh ok then. Never mind.
Krossis
Name checks out