No, that is not gaslighting. That is lying. Gaslighting is eroding someone's sense of reality. Deliberately trying to drive them insane by making them question their perception and sanity.
Please stop using gaslighting as a synonym for lying.
The little piece that I'm happy was mentioned, but feel like was buried - this whole thing is about someone that goes into the ER potentially *Dying*. If someone came to my door bleeding from the neck asking me to call 911, I don't give a FUCK how much they "paid in taxes". I'm grabbing a towel, putting pressure on it with 1 hand, and calling 911 in the other - because I don't want them TO DIE. That's what it comes down to. Stop bullshitting about cost.
They want the undocumented workers to be there on the farms, harvesting crops. But if they get injured? Well... "that's too bad for you--you probably did something wrong that made you get injured. NEXT?"
People will absolutely fall for this over and over again because news companies are owned by billionaires who are allowed to lie and there's no consequences.
Glad I'm old and lived a long and pretty decent life before having to be The North again and come down from Canada to fight you guys. Though I think most imagurians will be part of The North as well.
Somebody, please: how do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? Like, I need to enter my social security number when I submit my taxes. I've heard of TINs mentioned before... but I would assume one cannot legally work or get a TIN if they are undocumented.
Wrong. You can get a TIN from the IRS while undocumented, and many do. Some employers want it to stay legal on withholding and SS taxes. Sometimes a worker, say a house maid, will get a TIN to pay taxes on their cash wages. They do this for because it shows they’ve worked and lived by the law in all possible ways they could aside from their immigration status, Too, if amnesty is offered, their tax paying history would prove their time here. We ride on their taxes, they get no Medicaid, no SS.
0.004 of Medicaid. Reagan signed The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) into law in 1986, mandating that hospital emergency departments provide medical care to anyone needing it, regardless of their ability to pay or their immigration status.
Gaslighting is a Goebbels premise that the Republicans have adopted in full.
It is taking a very small and/or minor issue, and making it seem gargantuan, all for the purpose of pushing a specific agenda.
The entire Trump administration and FOX News gaslights the American people day after day. Stephen Miller is one of the key bringers of that gaslighting. He has set the stage for Trump and Project 2025 to gaslight America in order to control it. https://imgur.com/xHyFIOz
Anyone who's going to listen to this already knows. You CANNOT persua them. They will not listen. They do not care and/or they do not understand and both makes them dangerous. You have to swat their asses and put them in the corner. One big problem is the bullies have access to things that could hurt us all. What to do...
There is not a day that goes by that I don't go into the Fox News YT comment section and try to remind people that it is a propaganda machine. It's not much, but it's honest work.
My ex husbands grandparents were interred in Japanese camps and it is heartbreaking and disgusting to watch them consume fox news like it is the only media they trust.
"That's too many cups man! This doesn't even affect me anyway cause I live 2 hours away from the hospital and going to ER would be admitting defeat - something I am WAY too proud for and will NEVER do. I'll just die! Or I'll use duct tape like a REAL man!" - my ex husband
They won't even look at things like this. Fox will just keep saying "They cost Medicare 3.4 billion dollars!" which sounds like a lot if you don't mention that the total cost is 872 billion, and they contribute 92 billion dollars in taxes to it. And really any big number just sounds big. When you say 900 million or 700 billion people just mostly hear "a lot"
They don't care. They just care that "those illegals" aren't benefiting. They don't care about who is actually getting hurt by this, which is weird because it's definitely them.
Fox is interesting, bc when trump is on a roll they're his greatest prop up. But when he starts f'ing around rupert murdoch has them run stories pulling the curtain back and making him look bad. Rupert doesn't have to call trump or anything. He just indirectly jerks him around via fox. Trump is the biggest useful idiot the robber barons have ever had.
Which isn't the worst part, but I get you. It's That blatant and still, people refuse to act. They'll delude themselves into all sorts of filth. I've heard everything from "american police are more brutal" to "don't give them justification to do worse!" It's beyond demoralising, it's outright inhuman to hear.
Its effective communication for the way they've been wired, and might make them think. Tough althletic sports coach authority figure using simplified sentences, with confidence and easy to understand visuals, confidently showing how they are being fooled. Conservatives HATE being made a fool of, and they respect confident plain-talking authority figures, especially sports-coach types as opposed to intellectual, educational types.
Yup. That goes out to all the people that whine about tagging political posts too. "I just want to get away from the political shit..." IT'S YOUR FUCKING LIFE. Politics is everywhere.
I can understand that you want to take a break from the dramatic stuff happening all over the world (it was even recommended by the WHO during Covid that people don't constantly expose themselves to the news of the pandemic), but these aren't good times anymore. Bad things will happen, and one needs to be prepared, one way or the other.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
No, that is not gaslighting. That is lying. Gaslighting is eroding someone's sense of reality. Deliberately trying to drive them insane by making them question their perception and sanity.
Please stop using gaslighting as a synonym for lying.
VelvetWarhol
Rendova
And so close to Halloween!
marshall1084
You set the leg. Doctors are not instruments of the state.
https://youtu.be/0zEy0Cgb1NE?si=skDggvTyYoEoZX64
freakdiablo
The little piece that I'm happy was mentioned, but feel like was buried - this whole thing is about someone that goes into the ER potentially *Dying*. If someone came to my door bleeding from the neck asking me to call 911, I don't give a FUCK how much they "paid in taxes". I'm grabbing a towel, putting pressure on it with 1 hand, and calling 911 in the other - because I don't want them TO DIE. That's what it comes down to. Stop bullshitting about cost.
cytherians
They want the undocumented workers to be there on the farms, harvesting crops. But if they get injured? Well... "that's too bad for you--you probably did something wrong that made you get injured. NEXT?"
woozle
13579rocket
This is literally my dad. https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlYTQxYWJ5djIyemd1cnJybzF2M2k3YXpsNmMyd3Z0NmdxZm15ZDM4MCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/113RhN1oBm1yCc/200w.mp4
MotoCanuck
The answer seems obvious. Remove Mike Johnson as house speaker. How do you do that? Well, I'd suggest violence.
Whitebeardthepirate
Ree81
If anyone comes into an emergency room begging for help, I suppose MAGAs want the doctors to cross their arms and say "No".
rbudrick
People will absolutely fall for this over and over again because news companies are owned by billionaires who are allowed to lie and there's no consequences.
Dannyalcatraz
This is the exact same kind of thing my Econ profs pointed out back in 1986-1990.
Kimsgrim
Glad I'm old and lived a long and pretty decent life before having to be The North again and come down from Canada to fight you guys. Though I think most imagurians will be part of The North as well.
AdroitCudgel
MAGA doesn't want to know that Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act was signed into law by Reagan...
jamiedBreaker
Somebody, please: how do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? Like, I need to enter my social security number when I submit my taxes. I've heard of TINs mentioned before... but I would assume one cannot legally work or get a TIN if they are undocumented.
Thanks in advance.
EkeRoust2
Wrong. You can get a TIN from the IRS while undocumented, and many do. Some employers want it to stay legal on withholding and SS taxes. Sometimes a worker, say a house maid, will get a TIN to pay taxes on their cash wages. They do this for because it shows they’ve worked and lived by the law in all possible ways they could aside from their immigration status, Too, if amnesty is offered, their tax paying history would prove their time here. We ride on their taxes, they get no Medicaid, no SS.
jamiedBreaker
Thank you very much~
dogdayafternoon13
0.004 of Medicaid. Reagan signed The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) into law in 1986, mandating that hospital emergency departments provide medical care to anyone needing it, regardless of their ability to pay or their immigration status.
cytherians
Gaslighting is a Goebbels premise that the Republicans have adopted in full.
It is taking a very small and/or minor issue, and making it seem gargantuan, all for the purpose of pushing a specific agenda.
The entire Trump administration and FOX News gaslights the American people day after day. Stephen Miller is one of the key bringers of that gaslighting. He has set the stage for Trump and Project 2025 to gaslight America in order to control it. https://imgur.com/xHyFIOz
Painalschmainal
Hard when they won't listen to reason
Becker37
Anyone who's going to listen to this already knows. You CANNOT persua them. They will not listen. They do not care and/or they do not understand and both makes them dangerous. You have to swat their asses and put them in the corner. One big problem is the bullies have access to things that could hurt us all. What to do...
bexxMaker
MAGAs:
DynamoJoeHoHo
This guy in his garage/ basement gives out more good gas than any of the suits on the tee vee.
CelestialSea
That's not why they shut it down. They shut it down to stop the Epstein/Trump file release and so bad economic data isn't reported by govt. agencies.
Niiorkl
I was expecting him to pick the yellow cup and show how all the rest just crumbles down....i'm disappointed
AdroitCudgel
"I love poorly educated." - Trump
Osiricus
There is not a day that goes by that I don't go into the Fox News YT comment section and try to remind people that it is a propaganda machine. It's not much, but it's honest work.
MapleSyrupMafia
https://imgur.com/K5kwJSV
yeahhedugit
We need more show and tell like that.
nikkilaurakevin365
Divided States of America 🇺🇸
ElleW1988
My ex husbands grandparents were interred in Japanese camps and it is heartbreaking and disgusting to watch them consume fox news like it is the only media they trust.
HogWashDiddler
The problem is the people who watch fox news arent smart enough to realize this
nccomputermechanics4
Can simplify this statement to people who watch fox news arnt smart.
LitterBoxKing
Also, the people who choose to watch Fox News will never, ever be given information like this.
CookieMonstersCrumbs
They won't listen to the proof of information like this either because they don't want to. They want their permission to hate and discriminate
powwerbottom
"That's too many cups man! This doesn't even affect me anyway cause I live 2 hours away from the hospital and going to ER would be admitting defeat - something I am WAY too proud for and will NEVER do. I'll just die! Or I'll use duct tape like a REAL man!" - my ex husband
StubbDubya
You can be smart, you can be good, you can be a trump supporter, but you can't be all Three.
StarscreamAndHutch
I saw a graphic the other day on here that fox viewers are actually less informed than people that do not pay attention to the news at all.
Thanks, Reagan. You wanker.
AnythingMuchShorter
They won't even look at things like this. Fox will just keep saying "They cost Medicare 3.4 billion dollars!" which sounds like a lot if you don't mention that the total cost is 872 billion, and they contribute 92 billion dollars in taxes to it. And really any big number just sounds big. When you say 900 million or 700 billion people just mostly hear "a lot"
Sticklebrickk
That yellow cup though....
mairusupawa
"We can not keep falling for this"
Some folks voted for Trump three times.
Bollramm
And FOX doesn't care. They know they're lying. They are lying on purpose.
Rivalyn
They don't care. They just care that "those illegals" aren't benefiting. They don't care about who is actually getting hurt by this, which is weird because it's definitely them.
spaghettron3000
It's like trying to argue with a narcissist. Not only will they never admit to wrongdoing, they are incapable of understanding they have done wrong.
nclu
The problem is that he didn't pick up the fucking cup and make the whole thing tumble down!
sadurdaynight
Fox is interesting, bc when trump is on a roll they're his greatest prop up. But when he starts f'ing around rupert murdoch has them run stories pulling the curtain back and making him look bad. Rupert doesn't have to call trump or anything. He just indirectly jerks him around via fox. Trump is the biggest useful idiot the robber barons have ever had.
CurbYourClassWar
Yeah you can show them this and they’ll just laugh like an idiot and say it’s fake.
Goldensands
Nor are the people who are smart enough willing to fight fascism, evidently. It's been a fking decade
CurbYourClassWar
That’s the part that really messes me up. It’s so blatantly obvious what they’re doing.
Goldensands
Which isn't the worst part, but I get you. It's That blatant and still, people refuse to act. They'll delude themselves into all sorts of filth. I've heard everything from "american police are more brutal" to "don't give them justification to do worse!" It's beyond demoralising, it's outright inhuman to hear.
PastureofMuppets
Send this video to your Maga family.
Its effective communication for the way they've been wired, and might make them think. Tough althletic sports coach authority figure using simplified sentences, with confidence and easy to understand visuals, confidently showing how they are being fooled. Conservatives HATE being made a fool of, and they respect confident plain-talking authority figures, especially sports-coach types as opposed to intellectual, educational types.
youreathing
The Right: "But I don't like non-white people, so why should I care?"
michiyl
Reminds me of:
youreathing
Yup. That goes out to all the people that whine about tagging political posts too. "I just want to get away from the political shit..." IT'S YOUR FUCKING LIFE. Politics is everywhere.
michiyl
I can understand that you want to take a break from the dramatic stuff happening all over the world (it was even recommended by the WHO during Covid that people don't constantly expose themselves to the news of the pandemic), but these aren't good times anymore. Bad things will happen, and one needs to be prepared, one way or the other.