I'm an environmental scientist and had to educate my own dad who kept sending me youtube clips from people sitting in their basements with a whiteboard, trying to convince people that anthropogenic climate change is a hoax. SciCom is needed more than ever these days, with the reach and scale and influence of the mind rot we're seeing.
Lee Mcintyre: How to Talk to a Science Denier would be a great resource for people in similar situations. Facts don't care about his feelings. People are scientifically shown to value confidence over empirical data.
I started reading IPCC reports at 16. My brother is an environmental scientist. Our dad...still believed the propaganda machine instead. We need scientific literacy, digital literacy, financial literacy, social ethics, civics, and the arts.
Who has that meme of the guy taking off the clown makeup and wig next to the series of flat-earther youtube videos that go from "testing to prove the world is flat" to "could the world be round" to finally "how science proved to me the world is round"?
There have been a few flat earthers that publicly chronicled their departure from the dark side. There are also a grip of flat earthers that continue to accidentally prove globe earth models, and stick to their schtick. They have a brand and a livelihood to maintain, after all
So, I watch anti-Science debunking videos (SciManDan, Dave McKeegan, NDT, etc...) cuz I am a big fan of the details on how we did stuff.... e.g. how did we carry enough air in Apollo to last 13 days (the answer is they only pressurized the spacecraft to 5psi of pure O2, so they didn't have to carry the other gases and just carried super-cooled LOX).
I think they are great Science educators... Dave McKeegan and TheVintageSpace do great jobs of sharing the intimate details of Apollo, Gemini and Mercury (TheVintageSpace's breakdown of Apollo 13 was amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQUHVYYHTb0 )
I follow the facts and the evidence to the best of oir interpretations. Ive seen zero concrete evidence that proves unquestionably that there is a god but ive certainly seen enough weird to recognize that there is a god sized hole in our understanding of the universe. Is god the only thing that could fill said hole? Absolutely not. But he would fit quite snuggly in said hole. Whenever i see say someone say their is a god or that god is "pretend" im always eager to hear their logic.
as my grandmother told me shortly before she died, "nature is my god." The entire academic category of philosophy cannot satisfy the assertion of the existence of a spooky father figure living in the sky, if you need proof of that..it becomes a matter of faith.
No one here asserted god was real. You asserted god was pretend. Is your evidence just "it jasnt been proven to my satisfaction so it cant exist" or did you have some basis for your assertion?
Or it's science but then the same argument could be made (we imagine there's a scientific explanation, therefore it must be so) but i dont think that really proves or disproves anything
KleptoKea
I'm an environmental scientist and had to educate my own dad who kept sending me youtube clips from people sitting in their basements with a whiteboard, trying to convince people that anthropogenic climate change is a hoax. SciCom is needed more than ever these days, with the reach and scale and influence of the mind rot we're seeing.
theSoulciologist
Lee Mcintyre: How to Talk to a Science Denier would be a great resource for people in similar situations. Facts don't care about his feelings. People are scientifically shown to value confidence over empirical data.
oneduringwanderer
I started reading IPCC reports at 16. My brother is an environmental scientist. Our dad...still believed the propaganda machine instead. We need scientific literacy, digital literacy, financial literacy, social ethics, civics, and the arts.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Who has that meme of the guy taking off the clown makeup and wig next to the series of flat-earther youtube videos that go from "testing to prove the world is flat" to "could the world be round" to finally "how science proved to me the world is round"?
theSoulciologist
There have been a few flat earthers that publicly chronicled their departure from the dark side. There are also a grip of flat earthers that continue to accidentally prove globe earth models, and stick to their schtick. They have a brand and a livelihood to maintain, after all
bippityboppitybuttsex
So, I watch anti-Science debunking videos (SciManDan, Dave McKeegan, NDT, etc...) cuz I am a big fan of the details on how we did stuff.... e.g. how did we carry enough air in Apollo to last 13 days (the answer is they only pressurized the spacecraft to 5psi of pure O2, so they didn't have to carry the other gases and just carried super-cooled LOX).
theSoulciologist
Debunkers are doing incredible work out in the world. Debunking channels have vastly more followers than the disinformation channels
bippityboppitybuttsex
I think they are great Science educators... Dave McKeegan and TheVintageSpace do great jobs of sharing the intimate details of Apollo, Gemini and Mercury (TheVintageSpace's breakdown of Apollo 13 was amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQUHVYYHTb0 )
ispendtomuchtimehere
as a skeptic and a humanist I appreciate reproducible empirical evidence and assert that god is just pretend
theSoulciologist
Science also gives us social statistics that humans value confidence more than empirical data. Turns out, feelings don't care about facts!
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Can you prove that?
ispendtomuchtimehere
put me in a lab and you can test it..but really good jab!
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I follow the facts and the evidence to the best of oir interpretations. Ive seen zero concrete evidence that proves unquestionably that there is a god but ive certainly seen enough weird to recognize that there is a god sized hole in our understanding of the universe. Is god the only thing that could fill said hole? Absolutely not. But he would fit quite snuggly in said hole. Whenever i see say someone say their is a god or that god is "pretend" im always eager to hear their logic.
ispendtomuchtimehere
as my grandmother told me shortly before she died, "nature is my god." The entire academic category of philosophy cannot satisfy the assertion of the existence of a spooky father figure living in the sky, if you need proof of that..it becomes a matter of faith.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
No one here asserted god was real. You asserted god was pretend. Is your evidence just "it jasnt been proven to my satisfaction so it cant exist" or did you have some basis for your assertion?
3rdoption
God "would fit quite snuggly" exactly because by definition he would fit any knowledge hole snuggly. We imagine him to be so, therefore he is so.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Or it's science but then the same argument could be made (we imagine there's a scientific explanation, therefore it must be so) but i dont think that really proves or disproves anything