I've stopped laughing out loud entirely. Realized it the other day. Thought about it... & it's the world at the moment. A lot of us are exhausted. I see a great comedy, or hear a great joke, & ten years ago I would have laughed LOUD, full-body guffaw, big Billy T James giggles. Now I'm lucky if I muster up a 'heh' & a closed mouth smile. Weird realization. I'm going to try & get my laugh back.
Best case scenario they are simply harvesting your most accessible data to sell on the dark web. Worst case, especially if you start clicking around on the malicious website, it can install malware on your device that can brick your device or install spyware that can track much of what you do on your device.
I'm guessing the other 44 who all had pets were very performative. Trump is kind of like, what you see is what you get. He's not hiding the fact that he's an awful piece of shit and he would never use an animal to even try to look like he's capable of loving anything.
So... you're saying Obama got a dog to perform to the American electorate rather than to make his family happy like most humans do? I mean, okay, it's a legitimate point insofar as it's not conclusively disprovable, but man, Occam's razor is REALLY not on your side with that one.
Presidents tend to work very hard on making themselves seem like they're just regular dudes who ascended to the office of the presidency because they're just regular people, like you and me. We like dogs. I'm not saying Obama is like that but other presidents who were clearly trash humans still has dogs. This particular trash human doesn't have a dog because he's not trying to hide the fact that he's trash.
And why would a politician not hide the fact that he's trash? Because he lacks the insight or self-awareness. You're still trying to draw some weird equivalence between Trump and other presidents, even as you yourself identify the point that there's something uniquely pathological about him.
Not to mention that the only President that in recent memory could even be construed as having gotten a pet performatively would be Nixon. He was the one giving speeches about his dog as VP candidate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkers_speech
It's fair to mention that Obama did politicise the dog to some extent, at least to the extent of mentioning it in a speech: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/05/uselections2008-barackobama-sasha-mali-puppy-dog But the question raised by the earlier comment is whether he got the dog *in order* to politicise it, and that's gotta be a fairly safe no, just as he certainly didn't have kids in order to politicise them in the same speech.
Exactly. What Nixon did was politicizing the family pet. I can't think of another person much less President that's done that. I could be wrong, but I don't know of another example.
"In a lot of these cases, when human traffickers, who are some of the worst individuals on planet Earth, they don't traffic you for prostitution — they traffic you for degrading acts of all kind, and they force you into that type of conduct. Some of these individuals would go on to be law enforcement officers who qualified to be law enforcement officers and later applied to the FBI," Patel said.
I hate it, but I don't think I disagree with him there.
Yea, but that's bullshit because the victims of human trafficking are not charged for the acts that they are forced to do while being trafficked. If you are raped, you don't get charged with rape. It's a ridiculous line of reasoning.
Without looking at the actual case, you could just look at him, see he was convicted for recording and distributing child pornography, and be done with it.
That is a good point. But the solution to that would be to change the law that is charging those children. Not to allow child pornographers into the FBI. 😂
Being fair, which is possibly more than the shit strain deserves, there's context around those that are forced into it. Not that they did it out of their own volition but rather were trafficked or otherwise coerced. Makes it slightly better but I feel that's a separate clause that should cover other broader acts.
I believe that victims can move on and make a good life for themselves, especially with help. But maybe we don't want to argue that people who were sex trafficked or coerced into doing something most people find abhorrent would make good FBI agents.
Because they've been compromised already. You don't want people who can be coerced into doing stuff to be in positions like that. Similar reasoning to why you're not supposed to be able to be an agent if you have a lot of debt. There are over 300 million Americans, somebody else can do it.
Victims of sexual crimes aren’t generally convicted. So that user was using the same lame excuse Patel did to normalize the behavior being discussed. I’d love to see instances to support this line of thinking. Surely there are an overwhelming no amount to justify such an obscure change, no?
Yeah it almost sounded like he was defending gays with the whole "why politicize what happens in the bedroom?" But it was about animals and people fucking instead. Possibly coercive bestiality...all kinds of wierd.
It does say that it's designed to consider people who were forced to commit bestiality whereas willing participants are still barred. Strangely specific thing to have to account for though.
I know it's a funny meme to place Patel as the defender of bestiality, but what they were discussing is a sensible policy for rare cases (basically not to punish someone for having raped). I doubt he is the one that came up with it, given that he could do fuck all to argue for it, but I think we should focus on his utter incompetence and drug abuse instead.
Except the old policy never banned them in the first place as it was only if you had a conviction for it. The whole excuse was made up after the fact to hide that Patel fucks dogs.
The rule change also only applies to people who were under the age of 18 at the time of the incident. Given that teenagers can be (and in some cases are) convicted for possession of child pornography when they have nudes of themselves on their own phone, I don't know if I can see a standing conviction as a slam dunk.
The same Polk who, for better or worse, accomplished everything he said he intended to do in one term and so chose not to seek re-election. I can respect his integrity there, at least.
With age taking Trumps mind completely it appears when Miller whispers past his forked tongue into Trumps ear Trump goes along with anything Miller tells him.
VinnyVeritas
See? MAGA can be inclusive after all !
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
At least Noem isn't in the room anymore...
boobsalot
Bunch of perverts.
januarylover
I've stopped laughing out loud entirely. Realized it the other day. Thought about it... & it's the world at the moment. A lot of us are exhausted. I see a great comedy, or hear a great joke, & ten years ago I would have laughed LOUD, full-body guffaw, big Billy T James giggles. Now I'm lucky if I muster up a 'heh' & a closed mouth smile. Weird realization. I'm going to try & get my laugh back.
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ALTEFFFOUR
Bot account. One of the ones that votes up the only-vids or whatever the youtube link replacement scam is.
WigglyBlondeNoodle
fluorophores
what happens when you open the link? I'm curious but don't wanna do it.
WigglyBlondeNoodle
Best case scenario they are simply harvesting your most accessible data to sell on the dark web. Worst case, especially if you start clicking around on the malicious website, it can install malware on your device that can brick your device or install spyware that can track much of what you do on your device.
MyFinalForm
I'm guessing the other 44 who all had pets were very performative. Trump is kind of like, what you see is what you get. He's not hiding the fact that he's an awful piece of shit and he would never use an animal to even try to look like he's capable of loving anything.
NickRivieraMD
Nope. He lies about everything all the time. The fact that he's too fucking stupid to do it well doesn't make him honest or transparent.
TheDildoOfConsequences
So... you're saying Obama got a dog to perform to the American electorate rather than to make his family happy like most humans do? I mean, okay, it's a legitimate point insofar as it's not conclusively disprovable, but man, Occam's razor is REALLY not on your side with that one.
MyFinalForm
Presidents tend to work very hard on making themselves seem like they're just regular dudes who ascended to the office of the presidency because they're just regular people, like you and me. We like dogs. I'm not saying Obama is like that but other presidents who were clearly trash humans still has dogs. This particular trash human doesn't have a dog because he's not trying to hide the fact that he's trash.
TheDildoOfConsequences
And why would a politician not hide the fact that he's trash? Because he lacks the insight or self-awareness. You're still trying to draw some weird equivalence between Trump and other presidents, even as you yourself identify the point that there's something uniquely pathological about him.
draqsko
Not to mention that the only President that in recent memory could even be construed as having gotten a pet performatively would be Nixon. He was the one giving speeches about his dog as VP candidate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkers_speech
TheDildoOfConsequences
It's fair to mention that Obama did politicise the dog to some extent, at least to the extent of mentioning it in a speech: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/05/uselections2008-barackobama-sasha-mali-puppy-dog But the question raised by the earlier comment is whether he got the dog *in order* to politicise it, and that's gotta be a fairly safe no, just as he certainly didn't have kids in order to politicise them in the same speech.
draqsko
Exactly. What Nixon did was politicizing the family pet. I can't think of another person much less President that's done that. I could be wrong, but I don't know of another example.
JustFeedMePieDammit
Umm, I'm almost afraid to ask but what did Kash do to a dog?
sharK11
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/15/politics/kash-patel-hiring-bestiality
dghughes
He said beastiality charges shouldn't disqualify candidates who apply to the FBI.
TheMostKink
"In a lot of these cases, when human traffickers, who are some of the worst individuals on planet Earth, they don't traffic you for prostitution — they traffic you for degrading acts of all kind, and they force you into that type of conduct. Some of these individuals would go on to be law enforcement officers who qualified to be law enforcement officers and later applied to the FBI," Patel said.
I hate it, but I don't think I disagree with him there.
slaight46
Yea, but that's bullshit because the victims of human trafficking are not charged for the acts that they are forced to do while being trafficked. If you are raped, you don't get charged with rape. It's a ridiculous line of reasoning.
TheMostKink
Yeah, generally I agree, but then there are cases where teenagers in the US are charged/convicted for possessing child pornography because they have pictures of their own dicks on their own phones. Or this one: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/teen-sends-dick-pic-to-22-year-old-now-hes-a-child-pornographer/
Without looking at the actual case, you could just look at him, see he was convicted for recording and distributing child pornography, and be done with it.
slaight46
That is a good point. But the solution to that would be to change the law that is charging those children. Not to allow child pornographers into the FBI. 😂
PhailRaptor
He recently testified to Congress, openly stating that conviction of Beastiality should no longer bar applicants from employment at the FBI
JustFeedMePieDammit
Thank you and @Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea for the reminder. I managed to scrub that one from my mind!
sharK11
here is is
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/15/politics/kash-patel-hiring-bestiality
anarchoFeline
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YmZhbG44NGcyMHV4enU5NHFkMXlkeXg2NG0xN2pqa2p1emt0Y2RoYiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3orieUyda3QynAL8ek/200w.webp
impotence
Being fair, which is possibly more than the shit strain deserves, there's context around those that are forced into it. Not that they did it out of their own volition but rather were trafficked or otherwise coerced. Makes it slightly better but I feel that's a separate clause that should cover other broader acts.
KinetoPlay
I believe that victims can move on and make a good life for themselves, especially with help. But maybe we don't want to argue that people who were sex trafficked or coerced into doing something most people find abhorrent would make good FBI agents.
CasionProjects
Why?
KinetoPlay
Because they've been compromised already. You don't want people who can be coerced into doing stuff to be in positions like that. Similar reasoning to why you're not supposed to be able to be an agent if you have a lot of debt. There are over 300 million Americans, somebody else can do it.
THISISYELLING
Why would a victim catch a conviction?
Keru
Because laws are strange and arcane things that aren't always up to date enough.
THISISYELLING
Victims of sexual crimes aren’t generally convicted. So that user was using the same lame excuse Patel did to normalize the behavior being discussed. I’d love to see instances to support this line of thinking. Surely there are an overwhelming no amount to justify such an obscure change, no?
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Nothing directly. Just admitted he was okay with dog fucking
Hashbrown123
https://i.imgur.com/XAaDxfv
johnxbear
Was it specifically dogs he was interested in? I haven't read much on it other than he really weirdly defended bestiality.
Probablyimaginary
Yeah it almost sounded like he was defending gays with the whole "why politicize what happens in the bedroom?" But it was about animals and people fucking instead. Possibly coercive bestiality...all kinds of wierd.
iguanodont
What thin line is that?
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
#e5cd6c, #8c6239, #f9f3b9, #ae6427, #2f1313
Bastion144
Red rocket?
shadowmaster004
Thanks, Smokey.
chiefrunswithscissors
It does say that it's designed to consider people who were forced to commit bestiality whereas willing participants are still barred.
Strangely specific thing to have to account for though.
Leetri
How often does this happen for it to apparently be a problem?
chiefrunswithscissors
Probably not often but it would have been altered to allow a specific person in
jsexton
Hazing bullshit, I think.
ThatDoodSkip
"Only James K. Polk, Andrew Johnson, and Donald Trump did not have any presidential pets" says a lot about them
PatrickDenStore
Sure, but this time Putin has a pet in the white house.
detry
Trump doesn't have any animal pets, but he does have an attorney general, sec def and many others.
TI99Kitty
Trump doesn't have any pets? What about Natalie Harp? She even runs behind Trump's golf cart!
SalmonTheWise
She has a smile of a horse.
Me1iss0
We don’t have to make fun of how she looks- her personality is bad enough.
HandoB4Javert
TheMostKink
I know it's a funny meme to place Patel as the defender of bestiality, but what they were discussing is a sensible policy for rare cases (basically not to punish someone for having raped). I doubt he is the one that came up with it, given that he could do fuck all to argue for it, but I think we should focus on his utter incompetence and drug abuse instead.
BarryTheCyborg
Except the old policy never banned them in the first place as it was only if you had a conviction for it. The whole excuse was made up after the fact to hide that Patel fucks dogs.
TheMostKink
The rule change also only applies to people who were under the age of 18 at the time of the incident. Given that teenagers can be (and in some cases are) convicted for possession of child pornography when they have nudes of themselves on their own phone, I don't know if I can see a standing conviction as a slam dunk.
Snooj
James K. Polk? The eleventh president? The guy who founded an independent treasury? And made the English sell the Oregon Territory?
realGeorgelucas
in 1844? When the Democrats were split?
IWouldLickThat
His oratory filled his foes with fear!
BluePaladin42
The same Polk who, for better or worse, accomplished everything he said he intended to do in one term and so chose not to seek re-election. I can respect his integrity there, at least.
Snooj
What a Napoleon. Of the stump.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
Not true, Trump has Stephen Miller. Leashed but not house broken.
imakegoodmashedtaters
Trump has that horse that follows him around too
ReallyOG
Genital Warts do not classify as a pet of any sort
Especially Emotional Support Warts
genida
And when Miller drags the leash, Trump walks gladly into more white power dogshit.
Azazellosarmour
With age taking Trumps mind completely it appears when Miller whispers past his forked tongue into Trumps ear Trump goes along with anything Miller tells him.
tricerabottom
I question which one holds the leash in that relationship
Azazellosarmour
This