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https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/mayor-says-he-was-incorrect-in-saying-every-person-arrested-in-minneapolis-protests-was-from-out-of-state/#10fdf1b5233c
This narrative is straight out the 1960s anti-civil-rights playbook. It deligitimizes protests by suggesting that they are caused by a few anonymous wrong-doers.
I know this was an attractive narrative for a lot of people who'd like to believe that it was only a few bad actors responsible for violence. Things are chaotic right now and there are many people peddling a variety of narratives on social media. Expect things to continue to be fluid; expect unconfirmed and false reports to continue over the coming days.
I saw at least three posts promoting this now-retracted statement on the front page today, let's see if a lie really goes around the world before truth gets its pants on.
Jonnoatpeace
Thanks for the honesty
Damndonkeys
Inaccurate briefing from ... the police!? *GASP* I’M SHOCKED I TELL YOU. SHOCKED.
captaintern28
We have some great agitators here - let them be recognized!
FailedCrate
That's why you don't trust police reports completely. Ever.
Gra55hopper
Where’s the video gone from yesterday showing a man all in black calmly smashing windows then walking away when the real protesters stop him
Gra55hopper
That was some sketchy shit - looked like someone trying to delegitimise the protests and change the narrative..
kilo38
The only outside agitators have been the agents provocateurs
Yokuho
If I learned anything from The Wire is that the stat game they play is taught by the government wanting positive numbers. Reap what you sow.
Jatenffxiv
Yeah, really, we need more of this. Someone willing to correct themselves when given evidence to the contrary of what they said
SlappedStupid
It's not enough to satisfy me, given the circumstances, but this is true.
steerAwwPrincess
I fucking told you so!! Beware politicians lying.
York13
its not a lie if you believe it be true..
pvtwestbrook86
Riots*
blakeatwork
So it's not Agent Provocateurs after all?
trojanplatypus
Why would that even matter? What happened to him affects us all as Americans. This shit needs to stop.
RideTheStimutacs
An undercover cop broke a bunch of windows and was later identified. They know what they're doing and they know how to make people look bad.
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
Who's running things? The police or the mayor?
grazaoth
Co-op game. Lying in unision.
Orangemanbadisyourdad
But... white nationalists...
ArtfullySane
...are murdering more people than Al queda.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Ok, as a complete outsider, I don't know who to believe anymore, or which would be better. Do we WANT the looters and rioters to be local?
dschuma
Both sides will the same answers for different reasons. Everyone is insane
Sensenotsocommon
Didn't they say 80% of the people who were arrested were from outside the city? I would assume they know who they arrested.
LordJonStarkandLadyYgritte
As soon as I saw the other claims being pushed by others on this site I found it reaaaal convenient and hardly likely lol
FlatPlutoSociety
Remember, folks. Do not ever take anything the police say at face value.
grazaoth
Never take anything anyone says at face value, everyone can lie, cheat and mislead.
Jomini001
Oof. That didn’t take long.
caine224
Obvious to anyone who wasn't looking for "proof" of the narrative they wanted to push
Jomini001
And honestly so very tiresome. At least the walk back was public and quick enough people are still paying attention.
Camelspotting
Aside from being immediately obvious.
Jomini001
Lol, right? Like all those guys rolling 5 TV’s and 40 pairs of shoes out of a target are going to take them home to Idaho or PA or wherever.
Zeddicuszull
I first saw Barr saying this and knew right away that it was wrong. Good for me to be correct to distrust the AG.
palmo
We burned down the police station and I'm not mad about it. They burned down a bunch of businesses and I am mad about that. The ratio was (1
imgurisgo
you don't pay taxes do you? you'll just pay to build a new one, just stupid.
palmo
Closer to 80% out of state. But to say it doesn't exist is bullshit a black SUV. Shot at a restaurant tonight and at people while they (2
palmo
Shouted the n word. There absolutely are outside agitators here undermining our actual protests. We're not perfect and there is some (3
palmo
Violence. A lot of it has been in retaliation to police escalation of peaceful protests. Nothing here is monolithic. Stop acting like it is.
Sprixxen
"Nearly all of the arrests were locals" does not sound like "80%". Where'd you get that statistic?
thepeacefrog
this.
Irishda
And I got downvoted for pointing out how dumb his statement was
haggerton
Imgur is social media. It is dumb by nature.
TheStealthHippopotamus
Same here
scJazz
Argued about this with someone earlier in usersub.
infiniteflux
Could have been me. Still the point remains valid that there are shitbirds among the protesters stirring shit up. Still my bad.
Gababu
not that person but i also believed this in hopes that people wouldnt destroy their own city. This is shameful but i'm glad the truth is out
T0go
to be fair this was signal-boosted by government and media accounts who really ought to know better
grazaoth
They do know better. Know what "news" better make money.
scJazz
thecakefartisalie
You mean there isnt nazi caravans storming minneanapolis to rob the local businesses?
haleyb128
There are actually a lot of out of state people and white supremacists coming here. They’re targeting minority owned businesses.
thecakefartisalie
Got a source?
haleyb128
My eyes and those of my close friends?
TheStealthHippopotamus
Don’t forget the hordes of Russians!!
grazaoth
Chinese coming out of the wetworks too.
sfrinlan
Straight to the front page with this!
Link01
The sad part is he had so much credibility because he was a victim of police misconduct. Now he's just part of the machine.
AsTheDrugsWearOffIRealizeImActuallyACat
But if this goes to the front page, it'll contradict all those posts and comments in user sub!
dingofdong
Honestly? It's kind of refreshing to see a public figure admit error and provide corrected information.
TheeAccountant
I love our mayor ❤️ Mayor Carter isn’t perfect, but he’s present and he cares
fermtenn
Amen to that
letspretendthisisntmyusername
Thankyou!!!
Rayxzerox
He needs to address who (the cops) gave him that information, too, but I agree otherwise, it's important that he gave a timely, open apology
MyLittleVenus
Damn, you guys are really desensitised to being lied to, when you give kudos to a person because they later admit they lied.
PookyButt
The mayor was claiming the violent people were out of state and the peaceful protesters were from in. I don't think outside agitator fits /
PookyButt
That narrative. It sounds like the mayor was trying to sound like he was on the side of his community by saying "ohh no we're only /
PookyButt
Arresting those people from out of state. I'm still on your side"
ipoopdogpoop
I dont even know what's going on anymore dude. I've seen conflicting info and videos for days now
Zeuski
Same here, everyone had a narrative to push. I just tune it out
ReaperCDN
Which is why there are riots. Because people aren't listening.
grazaoth
Also because people are.
ReaperCDN
Lol very good point!
Dreigiau
https://jailroster.hennepin.us/JailRosterOnline/jail-roster
Gababu
aren't police records public? you can do your own research and find out who was lying to you.
Dreigiau
Here you go: https://jailroster.hennepin.us/JailRosterOnline/jail-roster
grazaoth
It's like you can't trust "news" anymore.
wallyparadise
The internet is good at making long-established information available, but very bad at real-time information, because of stuff like this
EvilDeadTed
Welcome to the Free Marketplace of Ideas!
wallyparadise
I should qualify that. It’s good at real-time sports scores. Which I look forward to using again someday.
TinFoilKat
So, locals trashed the city rather than out-of-state? How is that better?
York13
because its not my city..
iwrotethisonthetoilet
I’m glad you seek information rather than assume :)
s0cratez
It's not but it shows the authorities are using old school segragationist methods.
craftinscrap
Its not about better or worse it just is
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Police violence against "external agitators " is seen as more acceptable. Makes for a more controllable narrative
dschuma
Keep in mind that many were using the outsider claim to support theories of a conspiracy to make protestors seem like rioters. Also false.
SidneyHarbor
Exactly - people are naturally tribalist, so they don't care about police violence against people not from their tribe (city).
T0go
it's better because it's the truth
Zeddicuszull
What separates liberals from conservatives. Liberals don't lie to themselves.
grazaoth
I bet the conservatives would reverse that statement. Both seems rather deluded to an outsider.
Toderdj
Well said sir
caustickiwii
The truth is important, i.e. it's the narrative that should be told. That's not the same as "better".
thegreatwhiteblackartblackestmaster