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https://www.cleveland.com/news/2026/01/jim-jordan-bernie-moreno-file-supreme-court-brief-on-birthright-citizenship.html
Bizarkly
A gym teacher and a used car dealer walk into a Federal Court...
tzahtman
Jim Jordan has spent much of his adult life protecting sexual assaulters
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
But - we should deport Malaria and her kids first.
GarmBlack
Jim Jordan has always been a monster. Guy never should've set foot in politics. Prison cell though...
foxnfloof
Dismantling the Republic is what's happening. I can think of three forces that want to see this happen; the Heritage (lmaooo) Foundation, the Tech Bros or Putin. I don't know if any are working together or each running an independent agenda.
Sqeezytzatziki
American apartide
mrsdowneyjr
He makes me so embarrassed for Ohio
evilgriff
And Jordan and Moreno.
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FrankTheWallaby
Jimbo is in the latest Epstein file dump.
WolvesAreTheBestPeople
Remember everyone, SCOTUS is the one who intentionally brought us down this Nazi road.
NOYLL
More importantly: the six judges appointed by Republican presidents.
InTangier
Facilitated by Mitch McConnell, that sad excuse for a human being.
invaderjak
Citizens United, contrary to the name, has done more to divide us and is easily identifiable as the cause of our current downward spiral.
Ac1dBurn72
So like. Being born in the country no longer grants citizenship? So then who gets to become a citizen? Where does that line go?
If my grandparents were immigrants. And my parents were born here, and I was born here. Does that invalidate my parents citizenship, and mine?
Slick. Fucking. Slope.
nobletrex
“10h term”. Booooooo
Flodos
Imagine thinking Teddy and Gym care in the slightest about naming&shaming. They wear their evil like badges of honour.
mrthewhitee
You can name them but you'll never shame them.
psmith00
by the time they are done there will be no birthright citizenship for anyone an the only path to being a citizen will be Trump's $5 million gold card.
Kiares
Once again, fuck Ohio
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
You mean “Gym” Jordan.
Osiricus
And by "Gym" we are talking about sex crimes.
509tigerfish
Take Melania and Baron - bye bye bitch
quade
Strip trump's dad's citizenship posthumously, then strip trump's for being born to a non-citizen.
Osiricus
Jim Jordan, hey, that's the guy involved in a bunch of different sex crimes.
philroberts14
Let's strip Rafael Cruz' s citizenship - he was born in Canada. P.S. His name is NOT "Ted". He was assigned the name Rafael at birth.
Futuron
Ever since someone posted it, I now can't help but picture Ted Cruz as "Flaccid penis claws Wolverine"
bourbonandbaddecisions
Where was Rafael Cruz born again?
EmployedEnglishMajor
Is this the same Gym Jordan who knowingly abetted the sexual abuse of athletes under his purview by a team staffer during his time as a wrestling coach at Ohio State University, ALLEGEDLY. That Gym Jordan?
Rogahar
And Ted Cruz, the guy who flees the state he represents every time it gets a little bit chilly.
mmoser35731415
Isn't Cruz from some other country, then his family moved to Canada then here. Is he even a US CITIZEN! doesn't matter but what right would he have saying anybody else doesn't belong here?
CaldariBob
The very same!
ElvisParsly
RigidGristle
Moreno was born in Colombia to a family that soon immigrated to the United States, where he grew up in Florida.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Moreno
todayok
Somewhat ironic, but also serves to hopefully shake imgur out of it's echo chamber that "All Brown people and all people of color support unrestricted immigration". Hard imgur-denying reality is that many many many of the newer Americans who immigrated lawfully hate the absolute hell out of illegal immigrants who said, "Screw it" to following the law. In many areas Republicans have the tens of millions of Latino and Caribbean votes absolutely locked fukin down.
Daliena06
And Rafael Edward Cruz was born in Canada, the son of a Cuban immigrant. Hypocrisy is, as ever, a feature rather than a bug with them.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Some of the loudest immigrant haters have immigration histories themselves. It's like they decided they were the last good one to get in and everyone else sucks and needs to be shot at the border.
sokernick
Moreno has Vance's old seat and he is a skeezebag in OH.
aflarge
If there's no birthright citizenship, how am "I" a citizen, exactly? Sure, I've had ancestors over here since the fourth boat of colonists, but.. I never took any test to become a citizen, so that would be birthright citizenship.
Without birthright citizenship, wouldnt that mean that the ONLY citizens would be those who immigrated and earned it?
SinStar87
how europe and commonwealth's set things up, everyone's a citizen who's got the paperwork currently, if atleast one of your parents has paperwork you're a citizen and get paperwork, but born in say germany with parents that don't have paperwork, piss off. These assholes want that for USA, where I hope europe fixes their bs.
todayok
Not exactly... in fact not even really that close. But the TLDR is that many (quite a few actually, maybe even most) countries impose at least some requirements on one or both parents and if neither parent chooses to meet those then the newborn's citizenship reverts to the country/countries one or both parents are from. Basically only in the exceedingly rare case when a county ceases to exist is there the potential of the child being born 'stateless' and even then there are ways to handle that.
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
What does the constitution of the US of A have to say on this?
wargames
whatever trump wants it to say in a 6-3 decision. /s
SinStar87
No /s needed, that's exactly how the system's designed, hopefully we gain the strength and character to fix it.
Daliena06
Now now, it might be a 5-4 decision. You know, let one of them pretend to be the voice of reason - as long as it doesn't change the result, of course.
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azimir
Along with everyone else born or naturalized in the United States.
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
It seems VVV was trying to sidestep the actual words.. hoping I would not notice.
azimir
It's a common white supremacist talking point to fuzz the issue into a specific historical situation so you have to argue the historical context and not the actual content of the text. It's just more right wing awfulness being spewed into the world.
urusername2
14th Amendment
PoliticalWanderer
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” - Relevant text of the 14th Amendment
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
That's what I kinda remember from the info coming north.
I guess the US of A must have had a constitutional change lately.
theVodkaCircle
They did. It was called an election.
DaravinDK
These people don't read history. That was literally the point of the 14th Amendment: to give citizenship to all those people recently freed after the Civil War.
westellar
Going a step further, a major aspect of the debates surrounding the ratification of the 14th amendment was the presence of chinese workers in california. Immigrant workers, in extremely direct parallel to all of our immigration discourse today. They acknowledged that the amendment would grant their children citizenship - some dipshits spoke about how it could lead to replacement of "true" californians.
And they voted on it. Spoiler alert: it passed.
epicurusaquinas
I love "extremely direct" parallel. Lol. It's so modern that 'in parallel' is not be enough. It must be exaggerated.
Twice.
What does that even mean? XD
I'm not even kidding. XD
(The joke is the word "even" is unnecessary in those 2 sentences like "extremely" or "directly* in the immigration discourse sentence)
Please note: I'm making fun of contemporary society's need to amplify language to feel heard by others. It's common. You're not weird. I AM weird for pointing it out.
invaderjak
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
It is literally not possible for the 14th amendment to be more clear on this subject. If they can interpret this to mean it doesn't apply to children of non-citizen parents, they'll use it to strip any right from any group they choose.
RooGryphon
Thats the idea
Pokegeologist
I'm still wondering how they override or nullify an amendment without passing a new amendment.
Rhythmaster
It's another test to see if they can just blatantly go against the constitution and whether anyone will stop them. Who knows, maybe SCOTUS will agree with them.
meme2zombie
Which is why they want to interpret it like that.
KitchenClean
Do they not realize that Ted Cruz was born in Canada?
todayok
Not quite that simple. The constitution has tons of out-dated language which the courts have found a way to get around and, shocker, most of those workarounds were actually what imgur would call good: specifically on more equal rights. Sooo, as legal things go, if there are updated interpretations of some parts of the constitution buckle up because now all parts are open to the same thing. Toss in the very very very different Civil War (1861-65) context in 1868 when the 14th Amdt was ratified.
1stDrunkJoe
Since SCOTUS has given Trump immunity for everything he does in office is he still under the jurisdiction of the US? Cause if not:
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Unfortunately you are right. There isn’t any recent reaffirmation of birthright citizenship that would make it hard for the current SCOTUS to have to address and counter.
todayok
Exxxxxactly. SCOTUS rolls things back and rolls them forward all the time. It's literally their job.
ButtscratchMcPherson
It gets dumber; they're arguing that children of illegals can commit crimes and the US can't prosecute them.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Yeah they are trying to argue that “illegals” aren’t under the US jurisdiction, but we can somehow prosecute them.
Kotarisu
Simple: they do not define them as "persons"
Zyankali
Life starts after you vote republican. Before that you are just temporarily accepted in their country. You See it every Day how they treat children there.
Sonicschilidogs
"originalist" interpretation, those "people" weren't people when it was written, so it clearly doesn't apply to them, sorry, not sorry, also, second amendment doesn't mean state militias and a bunch of other shit that was originally meant I will conveniently ignore for the benefit of myself and corporate greed.
BeaverOnFire
Scientifically speaking the amount of melanin in your skin determines whether or not you are human! Don't you people science? /S
invaderjak
probably
CallMeCourierSix
THAT'S THEIR EXACT GOAL.
THAT'S WHAT THIS HAS *ALWAYS* BEEN ABOUT!! CREATING THE PRETENSE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST *ANYONE* FOR *ANY* REASON!!!!!
NotThePoint
This is the goal of the administration. However, the goals of SCOTUS may not be fully aligned with the administration.
CallMeCourierSix
SCOTUS goals are Republican goals. And Republican goals are Trump's goals. And Trump's goals are dictated by Putin. End of story.
You think them defying him on a handful of edicts is them trying to do the right thing? FUCK NO. It's Spin Doctoring. They're pushing back on the shit that doesn't matter, so it LOOKS like they're not sycophants doing his bidding. But that's all they are: bought and paid-for judges doing GOP bidding, every single day.
NotThePoint
CallMeCourierSix
Yeeeeup. Every single thing they've "blocked" has turned out to be meaningless. If you think for one fucking second that the conservatives on SCOTUS are anything other than bought-and-paid-for stooges, you're delusional.
tetondons
it's worse than that. It allows them to flat out IGNORE the constitution on all matters. We no longer need an amendment to change it. They can do it by decree.
CallMeCourierSix
That's what I was implying. They create the pretense, then normalize it, and then it no longer matters that they're breaking the law. That's been their strategy for decades. The Nazis did it too. And when the pretense can't be normalized, they pull a Wiemar.
They use plainclothes members to instigate violence, then tell everyone only THEY can end the violence, then have their own members stop, and "TA-DAAAA! We stopped the violence!"
CallMeCourierSix
*Weimar
NCPBullet
News flash they've been ignoring the constitution on all matters the whole time