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Many of you in the comments have mentioned that there have been some tragedies in Mississippi recently that are not being addressed. People are being lynched, and that is absolutely abhorrent. However, retaliatory violence will not solve any of this. Nor will violence like that that happened to Charlie Kirk. This cannot be condoned and should be condemned. By perpetrating more violence the people in the right who we already saw get riled up when they lost one of their Talking Heads to one of their own mind you, they were ready to march in the street and pull out any minority and do gross things. This doesn't mean don't protect yourself, but this certainly means don't look for a fight, don't try to be a hero, don't try to be a martyr. History within the last 200 years has taught us that a singular person trying to change the world with violence often results in millions dying. Lastly, as a former military intelligence individual, it would be very very ill advised for someone like me to instigate kinetic actions against another, group, organization, or anything else.
There needs to be legal ramifications for shit like this.
Violence * like what happened to Kirk * is not the answer. But this is fucking gross
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-rapper-lynching-song-country-b2827708.html
RenaissanceFaireMan
Sounds like inciting violence.
RooGryphon
When do we just kill these nazis. Fafo
TheDoctorCrankenstein
No, sometimes, violence is exactly the answer.
People who espouse violence against others for things beyond their control should be met equally with the same level of violence in self defense.
If they want to live by the sword, then let them die by it.
LaffertyDanie1
What the fuck did I just read?
AlwaysDownvotesDogs
Amber Rose... what a fucking turd.
georgejimmydoodle
This is what Republicans are.
DrOsmium
"HOW DARE YOU NOT FEEL BAD ABOUT VIOLENCE AGAINST A GUY WHO CELEBRATED VIOLENCE WE'RE GONNA FUCKIN' KILL YOU" -the self-proclaimed christian party
Mattnader
So Pam bongo is going to arrest them all Rico style as promised for hate speech right?
SavageDrums
"Pro Tr*mp rapper" just means "talentless hack desperate for attention"
DynamiteSmoker
Freedom of speech as long as we can kill those that make us cry.
Iblamemyparentstoo
NFSW Tokens simping for Nazis who would stand on their necks till they were dead if given half a chance
LuminoZero
OK.
Time to hang him up high.
EternallyIgnorant
I dont support him being murdered but I would find it hilarious if someone hung him up high and then MAGA were outraged and posting AI generated photos of him in heaven with doves on his shoulder or whatever.
annmiha
Don't be shy... post their names
Eidodk
"RNC parodies Ice Ice Baby"..... That's a bigger problem than they anticipate. They'll get a lawsuit from Queen (who largely receives all of the revenue from that song) who have NEVER been even CLOSELY aligned with their views.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Germany learned the hard way that humans in a society need strong laws and punishments against hate speech. The USA is going to learn the same lesson: I hope less bloodshed will be involved, but knowing the USA, that's not likely.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Paging Marshall....will the real slim shady please stand up with a diss track
LamarTrillington
This is that same no-talent guy from a couple of years ago.
Harm
But you know,that's the left that should 'tone it down'.
OperatorWay
Right-wingers publicly advocating for people's harm, subjugation, and/or eradication = "fReE sPeEcH aNd FaMiLy VaLuEs!"
...Anyone else publicly denouncing hate speech & those who spew it = "RaDiCaL vIoLeNt RhEtOrIc ThAt ThReAtEnS LiBeRty AnD FaMiLiEs!"
ilikepot8os
This is the part I have such trouble with. "He was killed for political reasons!" As if all the kids that are shot in school aren't killed for political reasons.
Bollokovski
In the UK there are laws about this crap, precisely because of people doing this. We wouldn't need the laws if there weren't asshats who think this is acceptable.
Thisisbullshitalready
Because I accept people different from me and refuse to hate people because of their nationality or skin tone, I'm now a violent radical leftist? It's not the left calling for lynching. It wasn't a leftist who killed a legislator, her husband, and her dog. Not a leftist who tried to kill Trump and not a leftist who killed Kirk. This is a page directly out of the 1936 German playbook. These people intend to sieze power and persecute anyone they perceive as "other".
DVSBSTrD
@OP They have lynched two black men in Mississippi since Kirk died. If you don't believe in violence, then you don't want repercussions.
DontSayRepeat
I need to be clear. Because I am an online content creator, and a former targeter for the United States military and government. I cannot condone and violence like Kirk had happened to him.
That being said, I was not aware that there has been another person lynched. This is absolutely grotesque. And very much needs to be dealt with. However, if it is not dealt with had a larger level without using violence, and changing the systematic issues that cause this there will be no actual repercussion.
DontSayRepeat
2) right now no one is being held accountable, and the attention is not being given to these atrocities. I do not see where violence would make any of this any better. Instead it would instigate the right, and give them the ammunition metaphorically that they need to go on their Purge that they want to. In layman's terms hitting the aggressor in the head with a brick and walking away is not going to change anything other than there will be more aggressors that will seek vengeance for the one.
DVSBSTrD
Then keep hitting them. Because they never stopped hitting us.
DontSayRepeat
You're not wrong, and please know that I and implying that you are.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
I won't hold my breath for the rights outrage on the calls for violence and murder ...
psych0bunneh
No no Pam Bondi JUST said that hate speech that calls for violence will be prosecuted across the aisle. And I'm sure she meant it. Super sure. Sooooo sure. Any minute now....
SpartaWolf117
but yeah, it's the left that have the monopoly on political violence. /s
Dracology
We aren't even minority shareholders in political violence. Not that all the studies and stats in the world can convince people otherwise.
loveThemLulz
Could you provide the source for this "information", or is it merely your opinion?
28dayslaterwasawarning
Yes. Yes I can
johnvictor
That chart is misleading, because Islamic Extremism is essentially the same as right wing extremism.
Leaveittojebus
Pretty sure they count protests disrupting traffic as "political violence".
clonedeeznuts
They did a study on how the left does more political violence! I swear it's real!
InTangier
If only the left did. I mean, the death toll of the two Trump admins, so far... they only think the left is more violent because they can't really measure the amount of people capitalism has killed.
johnvictor
They NEED to make people imagine the left is violent to excuse and legitimize THEIR violence. They know they're full of shit, they're playing the crowd.
Eldis
They only think left is more violent because that's what's been told to them by every outlet they follow.
InTangier
Pretty much, and there isn't really an official death count for capitalism, the numbers vary wildly. But if you take the same standards as those in the Black Book of Communism, it makes Stalin look like a schoolyard bully.
ToasterDent
Watch the whole video, but this section at 2:59 is relevant:: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRdkrDk0BQ0&t=179s
symmetry7
Just singing about a *tire swing.*
theadamabrams
I immediately thought of this sketch when I read the headline.
JohnnySilverballs
This country and a LARGE number of people in it absolutely disgust me.
TheMellowMoron
my favorite part of all of this is every conservative assuming that they're just going to be able to sweep through communities with absolute impunity to "root out anyone they don't like and call antifa" like they're the only ones that are armed. this shit is only going to end one way. it's just a matter of time before we get there
snizzorky
I'm European and always tried to convince myself the US people are nice and it's the government which I dislike but shit like that makes me question myself
PervertedTango
How far can the First Amendment be interpreted?
tyr2180
Further than this. It’s hateful destructive trash, but legal.
lurkerthatoccationallywantstocomment
Yep, but it's the complicit that really piss me off. Namely my family and friends that don't condemn their actions
ImAGrower
Yup. I warned my mother shit is going to hit the fan soon, and she and others I know need to wake up. If she wants to ignore what her generation has and is continuing to do to this country, sadly, I will have less respect for her.
lurkerthatoccationallywantstocomment
Quote from my ma in law. People don't change. She can take her religious right belief system and go straight to hell
tinydog
Mine too. Idiots.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Same. Only have one parent still in contact; they are an absolutely brain dead person who just believe everything at face value that the algorithm feeds them. Spends all day watching those copaganda body cam shows and browsing Facebook.
I stopped trying to explain to them when they still infantilize me and just spout "I'm older than you, and my life experience tells me more than any of your fancy book learning"
You cannot reason with illogical people.
conflictmuffins
It makes me feel physically ill to know I'm related to/was previously friends with people that support this regime and americas descent into fascism.
laurapede83
Same, I'm truly alone now. Thank God for my cats. They're better company anyways!
Puntifex
So does a big part of the rest of the world. It sucks the fall of the US will bring so much shit to other countries too.
ImAGrower
Then maybe the world needs to step up and help crush these facists' regimes rising and so on. But everyone just talks a good game, but is too afraid to do anything. Why Good will ultimately always loose to Evil. Good is too weak or unwilling to take the measures to eliminate evil because of silly reason like we just become them or so on. While the few of us willing can't get any proper support because the whole government is corrupt or complacent.
Puntifex
I agree and am most likely part of that same group who talks a good game. Absolutely I'm not envious of your position in this one.
scaredshirtless
You mean Charlie Kirk who died of a fentanyl overdose? He would have been fine if he didn't have all that fentanyl in his system. I heard he also had an enlarged heart, which lead to his death. (Again, I'm treating him like he treated George Floyd.)
pareidoliaperson
Yeah we knew, didn't need to add the parenthesis.
powwerbottom
"He was resisting"
StellarJay77
Nah, he died of rapid onset lead poisoning.
3andAHalfLivesAgo
Huh, I heard his neck just kinda did that.
StellarJay77
Common misconception but that is more typical of neckbeards as opposed to Nazis.
3andAHalfLivesAgo
Thank you for the clarification good madam or sir.
Attritshun
Time to stop playing nice
DaveSamsonite
Agree
nofucksgivin
Facts! Do what needs to be done!
DontSayRepeat
Not insinuating violence, legal things need to happen
pandemicmodedad
You forgot who owns the courts (its not the people).
RagtimeBetty
You don't have to insinuate, but I hope you all are ready to defend and push back hard.
- scared canuk
johnxbear
The second amendment is legal
janelPositivityHero
Right 😉
DontSayRepeat
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Wingshark
Legal things have failed us.
DontSayRepeat
You are not incorrect
OmenJones
Maybe violence, too.
sethb1978
If everything works out peacefully I’m all for it but I will not turn the other cheek regarding violence
janelPositivityHero
Perhaps
Targe0
Only once all other options are attempted. Because there's no going back once that become the standard response.
SophieClockwise
Somebody needs to look into whether these people were at Delta State University recently.
albaboss
For those not in the know
https://www.mississippifreepress.org/delta-state-university-students-body-found-hanging-in-tree-no-foul-play-suspected/
Itry2dostuff
Damn
ForlornFennec
"No foul play"... yeah, and Russian oligarchs just happen to fall out of windows all the time.
prosper020
I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, but I feel like lynching oneself is a little more effort than most want to put in, in such time of desperation. It’s often about finding an end to pain, not about exerting effort to make a statement. And if a statement is to be made, it’s most often in the form of a “written” message.
As someone who’s tried a few times, knows people who have also tried, and knew people who have succeeded, self-termination is more about ending torment than sending messages.
Zeterai
"We've investigated the situation and found that we left no evidence of foul play."
smashpro1
Some of those that work forces...
johnvictor
Hang black men and make them corpses.
FetteredJuvenescence
They're claiming it's suicide, which... It's *possible*, but EXTREMELY rare for someone to hang themselves in a public area.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Suicide where he broke his arms and legs
Benegesseritwitch75
Have we had confirmation of that I've seen anything from he had a previous broken leg (and that's why his friends couldn't figure out how he would have been able to) to this with arms and legs broken found after the death. I've seen nothing solid lots of I heard but no official report?
SchuKadaj
not just extremely unlikely, it's also ridiculously hard to set up for oneself. there's almost no way it's suicide.
Benegesseritwitch75
11 years in EMS I've been to and have many coworkers as well respond to suicides in all these years 1 was from a tree in his backyard and PD initially considered it suspicious until a text was found to his ex
FetteredJuvenescence
Right? 11 years of calls and just one, and backyard so still semi-private. I'm sure hanging one's self in a public place has *happened*, but...