a little history for you

May 22, 2013 6:28 AM

a little history for you

wild animals still have unacceptably high levels of radiation. (4)

11 years ago | Likes 100 Dislikes 0

Radiation is one of the most scary things I can imagine, next to microwaving yourself

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

And plot twist- microwave is a form of radiation. Just a longer wavelength than gamma and shorter than visual light (also radiation).

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I know that.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

What's the point of the "geiger counter" if it's limit is at a safe level of 3.6?

13 years ago | Likes 277 Dislikes 0

The meter indicates only the working environment,its like taking a kelvin thermometer to the sun and saying"oh yeah it`s hot here"

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Dosimeters come in two varieties. Low radiation for everyday use & high radiation for disasters. Going to maximum is a big warning.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

soviet safety standards were lacking to say the least

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

They didn't need a measurement higher than that, and they knew when it hit 3.6 that it was over 3.6 and bad news.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

we have CO detectors that have similar function, they don't go over 250 because at 250 we are expected to vacate the area.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That's just what I was thinking. "Here's a thermometer to make sure we don't overheat, but it can only read up to 98.6 degrees F."

13 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 1

It was probably there to measure small doses over long periods, eg. a woker's yearly maximum allowable dose, not signal evacuations.

13 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

...nobody was diving in any pools "during the meltdown".. this is bs.

13 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Wait... We're putting wolves in radioactive areas? Haven't you heard of werewolves people?

13 years ago | Likes 573 Dislikes 1

i think thats what we're going for

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What about turtles? TMNT fo' realsies.

13 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

we got to find 4 turtles and a martial artist willing to be genetically transformed into a rodent it may take time but damn it..must be done

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My thoughts went more on the side of Moon Moon...

13 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

Oh, for god's sake.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You know that they moved there of their own accord, right? Besides, no hunter in their right mind would ever go to Chernobyl.

13 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

There are people out there trying to make Dire Wolves like in Game of Thrones

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My exact thoughts...we are weird

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

We didn't put the fucking animals there, they settled all by themesefles

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

in the first two years after the meltdown, 200.000 socalled liquidators, workers who cleaned the shit up, worked there. today 50.000 (1/2)

13 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 5

fun fact that's 1/4

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

(2/2) of them are dead... those who are still alive suffer from radiation sickness

13 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 4

50,000 people used to live there. Now it's a ghost town.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Cheers Captain Price.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

To be honest, I'm surprised not more of them are dead. Horrible that they are mind you, but that number surprises me.

13 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

"Breaks down irradiated particles for energy". Please, tell me more of a fungus that performs the fission process. I laff'd

13 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

this isn't new info i remember reading about it a year or two ago. Also it was on the discovery channel.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Number 5 seems like pure slavic logic.

13 years ago | Likes 491 Dislikes 3

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13 years ago (deleted Mar 11, 2015 3:46 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

That's cool, and i knew there was probably some scientific foundation. Just growing up with part my family from ukraine/poland (1/2)

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I started to notice the use of vodka to solve things lost its scientific value and became just the thing to do. (2/2)

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"You are dying a slow painful death...drink vodka" - Every Russian Everywhere

13 years ago | Likes 80 Dislikes 1

Well, that's just the most logical thing to do, right after smoking all the marihuanas you can find.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

apparently snorting cocaine reduces the chances of getting cancer....the more you know

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"slavic logic"

13 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

This messed me up... I thought you meant the OTHER #5

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Me too, which I was about to happily point out as something that is possible now.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*slagic

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

slogic.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So does #7. "So what if radioactive? WE MAKE SHIELD. BIGGER THAN PUNY STATUE."

13 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 4

That's nonsense. A bigger containment structure because the existing sarcophagus has been deteriorating (in danger of collapse).

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Learn the properties of vodka before you bash a nation by stereotypes.

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Got a problem? Vodka!

13 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

What are you saying... that vodka isn't a panacea? :p

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Meh, It work for me comrade.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Has anyone not noticed there is 2 #10's?

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 #9's too

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fucking Majestic.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

make that 2 everythings

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

there's two of each one to show that those two are related, hence the way they did "3 guys went into the reactor pool, then died heroes"

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

BBC documentary on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3-XUe0oEU

13 years ago | Likes 288 Dislikes 0

Yeah let me just click a link and watch it for an hour.....pffft

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

(commenting to return to this later...)

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm watching it now... :S

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

it's very difficult to watch this, because Ade Edmondson is in it. I just keep expecting him to break out into Vyvyan.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bloody hell I thought it was him! He's an awesome actor

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Commenting to watch when i'm not at work. Thanks!!

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm just commenting so I can find this again...

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Brilliant docudrama. Thanks for the link.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They went inside the shelter in this bbc documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eVubF9TkBo

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is the best one I've ever seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPgsesupDQ

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like this one, too. It helps explain the questions people seem to have about how it actually exploded.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well thank god, I finished watching all the documentaries on my current Must Watch. Now I have 5 more to watch, Game of Thrones S3 can wait!

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I like this because it is pure fact no bias, no spin, no agenda just simple facts.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Awesome. This I can do at work. Thank you!

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I need to be studying for an exam today. You have effectively taken away an hour of that time...

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Seconded

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It looks like a docudrama-- how reliable is the information? I don't know much about Chernobyl and I would love to know more.

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

this one is more documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPgsesupDQ

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Thank you!

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's a lot of cool pics of the remains here http://www.kiddofspeed.com Internet classic!

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The photographs were fascinating. Thanks!

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

SO that explains Moon Moon.

13 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

also, 50,000 people used to live there. now it's a ghost town.

13 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 3

approx. around 100-300 people live in the exclusion zone.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And all of them were evacuated in 3 hours.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

because of the radiation

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I made this exact comment 3 hours before you. Mine got downvoted. It would appear that you are luckier than I. Have an upvote.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh shit son. I looked for this comment before posting mine, but didn't think to check the downvoted posts I guess

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

S'all good man, no worries at all

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

SOAP!

13 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Bullshit.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Fungus that feeds off of radiation. I guess life......uh..........uh uh uh......fin-uh-ds a way.

13 years ago | Likes 220 Dislikes 9

Yes! Best comment I've read all day.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Checkmate!

13 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

This was exactly what I thought when I read that. +1!

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's the melanin. It doesn't really feed, but uses it as an energy transporter. If you ate the mushroom you would get all the Cs137 it had.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Idk but to me it makes sense...life adapts to its environment and new life forms based on it...did you know there are shrimp that live (1/2)

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

in water 4 times hotter than boiling point, deep down in the sea where there is volcanic activity? (2/2)

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

As someone who's seen The Andromeda Strain, right now I'm terrified.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is a Japanese superhero/monster movie waiting to be made -- wake up, people!

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

so you mean nausica?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It only absorbs radiation like plants absorb solar radiation. It doesn't "break down irradiated particles". That would be nuclear physics.

13 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

But it can't harness that radiation for metabolism, it just takes the dose like every other creature- ie completely different from solar.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, the mechanism isn't tied down and I haven't looked into the research, but from wiki.p., it looks promising that melanin = chlorophill.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And that's what i have a problem with. This is observation, not proof of mechanism. Correlation my friendly imgurian.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In any case, you agree that there isn't mini particle accelerators or nuclear piles in the fungus, "breaking down irradiated particles". No?

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Correct, the fungi are not doing nuclear physics. They might be using normal reactions using radioactive versions of normal stable isotopes

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

does anyone else see that wolf eating the other wolf's tail?

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

... Moon Moon -_- WTF are you doing there?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

yesss, I love reading about chernobyl

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

My uncle was in russian army when this happened. And he was one of the guys forced to clean ths mess up. He is now 10 years dead. Cancer.

13 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 3

Bit more background to that: He was estonian. At 1986 we were still part of ussr and were forced to go to their army. That was his fate.

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

So how come when I try to explain that there were no volunteers and they were all forced to go there I get downvoted...sheesh

13 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Cause everybody in russian army were "volunteers" nobody was ever forced to do anything there. But yes. There were "volunteers".

13 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Sorry about your uncle. I totally read your comment with a Russian accent. Sorry about that too.

13 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

But wouldn't the radiation also affect the animals?

13 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 3

Yes, but animals with much shorter life spans are less affected by diseases such as cancer which are the result of long term exposure.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2/2 generations of them. Their lifespan is shorter, therefore the mutation/adapting is faster. (Malcolm's quote here ;) )

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

1/2 Also, scientists have been keeping eye on particular mice there. It seems that since the dissaster there have been 43 (or more!)

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

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13 years ago (deleted May 27, 2014 9:59 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

You cant really say it that way

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is patently false.

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

There's increased mutations (frogs with six legs, etc.) however the animals seem to be doing okay generally. It should be noted that (1)

13 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

countries have to monitor radiation levels in meat or animal feed. Wild game is banned in some countries (such as Germany) because some (3)

13 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

plants across Northern Europe (From Britain to Germany to Norway) still contain residual levels of radioactivity from fallout, and these (2)

13 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 2

They figure their lifespans are short enough on the whole that they don't suffer as many issues.

13 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

wild animals still have unacceptably high levels of radiation. (4)

13 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 1

I forgot I'd asked this, saw my notifications and thought 'what the fuck have I done' - so thank you for your answer!

13 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Yeah I always freak out when I get replies. Usually because I said something more offensive than this.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

yeah that's why I was confused, I couldn't think of anything controversial I'd said recently!

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So I'm supposed to believe that the Russians drank vodka... to reduce the chance of thyroid cancer? Riiiiiight -wink-

13 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 8

I am. Just to be safe.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

keyword was they believed. probably just to improve morale on an otherwise dreadful/suicidal mission

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*Ukrainians. Not Russians.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Technically it's Ukrainians.

13 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Nuclear Ukrainians. Say that five times fast.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not technically, but actually! Thanks for pointing this out :)

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

TIL: I don't ever have to worry about getting thyroid cancer due to radiation.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Pretty much every point is bullshit (coming from a physics person).

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Rad suits do not protect the way people think. The suits simply allow you to keep contaminated materials off skin & out of eyes, lungs.

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

upvote for you, and completely correct. Short of covering yourself in hundreds of pounds of lead...

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So basically wearing a radiation suit is like using TP to pick up a hairball?

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

kindof? The idea is to prevent ingestion and prolonged contact (this is why fukushima workers showered- to remove potential particles)

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then in K19 when they only have chemical suits and they say "They may as well give them raincoats!" the chemsuits would work just fine?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yes. Any sealed suit would work.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I assumed radsuits were basically full body versions of the aprons they give you when the dentist takes X-rays. Not so?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not at all. The suits are designed just to keep dust and other contaminated materials away from skin, eyes, mouth etc.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Kurt Vonnegut's brother Bernard discovered that silver iodide could create rain clouds. So Kurt claimed in many essays, at any rate.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Number 4 - Guess we know where Moon Moon came from.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There was never any danger of an explosion 10x bigger than Hiroshima.

13 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

I really would like to see a credible source on that statement, yeah.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Either they mean the fallout would be 10 times worse, or they're suggesting a multi-kiloton steam explosion.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure a nuclear power station can't turn into a nuclear bomb just because they both have the word "nuclear" in their name.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

wait... we can make it rain? And yes, that IS what I got from this...

13 years ago | Likes 2294 Dislikes 12

why didnt ted mosby use this method?

13 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Lack of access to artillery probably.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

wait, people didn't know this?

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I heard the chinese did it during the beijing olympics. But I may be wrong. I am surrounded by gas bags.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Or before, to prevent rainy days after.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Also, the silver they use can accumulate and be dangerous to the environment and cause even more problems if used too much

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

read Michael Crichton's State of Fear

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

It is also possible to purchase "sunshine" on a cloudy day, or when its rainy. You can purchase a clear part of sky where you want it to be

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

It basically forces already-present cloud to form density and thus cause rain. It can never work on a clear sky.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I can see how we could put this to really good use in drought areas, if the had clouds of course.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Look up the Geritol Solution to global warming and making rain will not surprise you.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yeah they use "cloud seating" every year in the plains states to help with rainfall in areas that are prone to drought that year.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yeah. It's called seeding.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

holy crap man - that was 2 years ago. Where did you come across this post again?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I searched "history"

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

BUT.. can we make it hail?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Someone should tell California

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Holy Frack - I can't believe I have a top comment. I'm upvoting every single reply to this. Smack my sally and call me fanny.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

you can make it snow too. they did that over moscow.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2. By creating rain we also screw over nearby areas that were supposed to receive that rain

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

we can even set fire to it

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's also been said that by us creating rain, 1. we screw up the natural rain cycle and potentially decrease the amount of rain in area

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's called Cloud Seeding

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tasmania has multiple planes that disperse silver iodide to create clouds over their dams (they rely on hydro electricity quite a bit).

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dubai does it.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

but can whe make it "CHOCOLATE RAIN?"

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

china has been known to use this for a while

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Have we learned nothing from One Piece?!

13 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Took the words right out of my mouth. That's all I thought of when I saw that.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

<3!!!!!

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

OMG I JUST GOT TO THIS PART I'M ON THE AR/ALABASTA ARC!

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was looking for someone to mention this. You did not disappoint.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

that's nice, but right now it would be much better if we could make the f**king clouds go away... I need sun, I really need it, RIGHT NOW!!!

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Seattle?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Worse, LUXEMBOURG!

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Only on 'dem hoes

13 years ago | Likes 172 Dislikes 0

There are two types of people. You're my favorite type.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I even stretched my fingers to type this.. +1

13 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I signed in to upvote this comment.

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

i make it rain, i make it rain!!!

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Aren't you the person who now has to fuck an Ikea chair?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Chocolate rain

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

China does it like most of the time, they fire a cannon up in the sky to make it rain.

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

a cannon with chemical particles* -now anyone care to tell me which particles?

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Silver Iodide

13 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I thought they would fire a cannon up there to make it not rain?

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Obama money! "where did it come from?" His stash, I don't know!

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Thanks Obama

13 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

That guy balancing money on his head in the back...

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's incredibly expensive, and it doesn't always work. Also, there need to be clouds already there, basically. It's called cloud seeding.

13 years ago | Likes 373 Dislikes 1

coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.......

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I heard about that on that show about the podcast, I think its called stuff you should know. Awesome show/podcast

13 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

They did it last month here in the UAE. Made a weekend's worth of clouds last for a week. Everyone lost it, lol.

13 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

why though

13 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 1

They also did it during the Beijing Olympics because air pollution was so out of control.

13 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

It almost never rains here. Trying to improve loval agriculture.

13 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 0

It will take the rain from other regions. Similar effects are created by mtns. water particles condense up 1 side, dry air down the other.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

interesting stuff here.

13 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

oh, well than. carry on

13 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

UAE could probably afford it as a monthly thing. No racism here. Average car from what I hear is a Range Rover.

13 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

credit to alltime10s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWwhRjGBNb4

13 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 2

yes i know the user but op dint gave and credit :(

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

subscribed!

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good. I was scrolling through the comments looking for a credit link because I knew this wasn't his. Also saw this last night on YT.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

THANK YOU. op is a top douche for blatantly stealing other people's work. -___-

13 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

haha i actually watched the video just a few hours before seeing this post, and recognised it immediately!

13 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

same here :D

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

me too. i've actually been subscribed to the channel for a few months now.

13 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

#10: nuclear explosions are not possible whatever goes wrong with a nuclear reactor.

13 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

THANK YOU. I doubted everything after that.

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

1/3 It would have been a thermo explosion, not a nuclear one. The core was on fire and eventually melted through the concrete floor, into a

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Totally true. But that would be like 0.001x Hiroshima, not 10x. That's not within 10 ballparks of a nuclear explosion.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/3 chamber underneath the reacter that was fillied with hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. Had the two mixed, it would have created

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

..an explosion 10x bigger than hiroshima? hardly...

13 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 8

Yep. Reactor fuel CANNOT undergo a fission explosion.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Actually, in this case, it can. Check out around 32:30 and after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPgsesupDQ

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sure it can explode, but not a nuclear explosion. The u235/238 mix in a power plant is never capable of it.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think that's where people seem to be getting hung up. Or, I could just be misreading some of these comments as "explosion" is impossible.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think the point is the outcome(i.e. the amount of contamination). Even at 100kts, the explosion is small relative to the rest of (1)

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nuclear power plants don't explode the way nuclear weapons do. The fissile material used in power plants is far lower grade. So no way 10x

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

yes and no - it's not as much a question of radiochemical purity as it is of construction.

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

the damage caused.(2)

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i believe that indeed the explosion itself was meant (-> see "fact" no. 10)

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

the effects could well have been as large, barring the physical explosion. It's just an awkward wording of a misunderstood fact.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hiroshima's bomb was 13-18 kilotons. The US detonated a 15,000 kiloton device in 1954. 10x for Chernobyl is 130-180kt, and this was in 1986.

13 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

what i wanted to express is that it is technically not possible for a nuc. power plant to explode like a nuc. bomb

13 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

The explosion issue explained. Check out around 32:30 and after aroiund 33:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPgsesupDQ

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

nuclear engineer here, trying to swat away the ignorance. It hurts, it hurts a lot

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

thanks man, i just upvoted every comment you wrote on this so called "the more you know" post

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

why not?

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The how and why of a 2nd explosion is explained around 32:30 (and after) around 33:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPgsesupDQ

13 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They are built in such a way that an exponentially growing chain reaction needed for a big explosion is impossible.

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

actually it's the fuel that isn't good enough and "eats" too many neutrons. That's why weapons-grade uranium exists, it has less "stuff".

13 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The same way an airport can't fly like an airplane. They have similar names but they're different things.

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On a more serious note, I believe they use different nuclear fuels. One for sudden energy release, the other for slow sustained output.

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hard to explain briefly - but essentially, the explosion of the reactor was a "conventional" explosion while a nukebomb explodes by (1/2)

13 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

totally consuming its radiactive ingredients in a nuclear chain reaction. for further information please consult wikipedia :)

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As a nuclear engineer, i call BS on #10, 9, 3 and 1. Divers in a pool during the meltdown? No. Sorry. (cont)

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It is true that divers entered the containment pool below the reactor knowing they would die but I believe this was to check for damage.

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http://moralcourageheros.weebly.com/chernobyl-divers.html They dove to open a valve to prevent a possible bigger steam explosion.

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Exactly, and a meltdown does not mean nuke explosion. The explosion was from steam buildup. Radiation was spread by the force of steam.

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How bad it was at Chernobyl during the disaster is that some people climbed on roofs to get a better view. They never came back down.

13 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Google alexei ananenko, valeri bezpalov, boris baranov

13 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Typical Sensationalist BS, I'm really sad and angry on how many people buy this shit without questioning. :<

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They actually did send soldiers into the plant for short periods of time, it was obviously detrimental to their health, but in return, they

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were honorably discharged by the Soviet Military as a way to repay them.

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However, I do not know whether they sent divers into the pool. But I know they did send troops inside the reactor immediately afterwards

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They did, and they did not die. One is still alive today.

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"No. Sorry." Come on you can explain better than that.

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You can't get a 200 kT TNT explosion from power-grade uranium in pretty much any amount. This... this is just retarded.

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I'm just curious about the pool, is there just not a pool to be jumping into or what?

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If you want to get insta-cooked... Radiation tends to heat water up. That's why Chernobyl exploded, after all--steam blew up. 1/3

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2/3 I presume it's about preventing more water reaching the exploded part, so there wouldn't be a secondary *steam* explosion.

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cont- #9 was specific to workers clearing graphite (from the core) off the roof after the steam explosion, and 40 sec wasn't safe either...

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cont- #3 no creature fungus or otherwise can 'harness' radioactive decay for metabolism. Radioactivity destroys indiscriminantly

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And with that you lost any credibility.

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Ionizing radiation cascades through crystals, cells, biologicals or steel structures. They cause damage. Some can be repaired. Why the loss?

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He might refer to the post in general?

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and finally #1- the military may have used shells but that didn't stop the airborne radioactivity- Trace amounts can be detected anywhere

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It's from an episode of The Colbert Report, and it's alright. Mainly a lurker here anyway. Got the wife addicted though ;)

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Rain was used to reduce the airborne radiation, it was never going to completely remove it but radioactive particles would be attracted 1/2

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2/2 to the water and fall closer to the source than when dry. It was a desperate attempt to stop the spread

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Did they ever tell you the story about SL-1; the Army reactor?

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Our professor did actually, if only to tell a gruesome tale of a man impaled upon the ceiling.

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