I measure my height and weight with metric, velocity in my car by metric and temperature outside in metric. The aircraft that I work on are imperial, oven temperature is imperial and construction material is imperial. It can be confusing living in Canada
looking at the chart it just looks like they're working off the idea that work=specifics and must be accurate. Where everything else is in context of humans. Imperial is "warmer" in conversation relative to humans while metric is formal and specific. Like "Hello, how do you do today my friend?" Vs "yo sup?" both mean the same thing ones a lot more specific and rigidly formal. The others just casual and natural.
On a trip to rural Canada, I was at a deli counter and asked for a quarter pound of ham. The young lady behind the counter just looked at me and sorta cleared her throat. I was like, "Oh, fuck, right. Ok, hold on. One-eighth of a kilogram?" She served me the ham.
I just checked with Wikipedia for "unorthodox units of measurement" and discovered this: the Banana Equivalent Dose as a measure of radiation. One 'average' banana has enough radioactive material in it, mostly potassium-40, to expose you to ~78 nanosieverts, usually rounded up to 0.1 microsievert. Banana for scale, eh?
I could be converted to baking in metric. I've seen people just keep their bowl on a scale and zero it after each ingredient. Not great for like a KitchenAid mixer though, better to just dump measured ingredients while it's going
As someone who grew up in the prairies and has since moved to Ontario - there ARE cartons of milk at the grocery store, meaning bagged milk is a conscientious choice made by psychopaths.
Coastal BC'ian here. Bagged milk was pretty standard when I was a kid, was most of the bulk for basic milks... but it's completely gone these days. Milk now comes exclusively in cartons or jugs. I think bagged might still be available in the interior and the north, though. Any Kamloopers, Kitimathians, or Hundred Mile Housers in the comments?
I don't drive, no licence (over a million of us here in NYC don't need one). When people say places are "20 minutes away, unless it's snowing" I'm like "how the fuck are places physically further away from each other in different weather?"
The funniest unit of distance I've heard is in northern Finland called "poronkusema". It's a distance reindeer can run without needing to pee. So something could be 3 reindeer pees away.
To be clear, this is because we started metricizing inside living memory, and the process is slowed down the fact we're living next door to the world's largest dumpster fire, which exports its steaming culture and ez-bake products using units that we have to learn to convert to and from, whether we like it or not.
Yup, also in that age group: mother born in '59, whom has tried her best to convert but she and I both nevertheless exist as authoring guidelines for the aforelaughed flowchart.
Going to Ireland I assumed I was going to need metric. Then I was having a discussion with someone and them mentioned their own weight in "stone". What the hell is stone? Oh, its 14lbs in Imperial, which is famously Base 12. Then I started noticing road signs. "Salt Hill - 12km/12Mi" What? It can't possibly be the same distance in both! While I was there maybe 1/4 (25%) of the signs I saw were like that.
The older, cast-iron signs, which were in miles, were expensive to make, so a lot of them weren't accurate - my uncle lived about 4 miles from the nearest town, and there were four junctions along the way, all of which had identical signs which said " 2 miles", even the last one which was about 300m from the centre of the town...
Except all official signs and records are in metric here (eg my driver's license says my heigh in cm not ft/in). In the UK they have mixed units on street signs even.
Lots of people do hodge podge mixtures. Canadians do their thing. Brits will measure their height in feet (don't lie I've heard it done!). Americans, like the drunk guy said, use metric when talking about drugs. Liter (litre) of booze, grams of weed. There's commerce science and industry which like to use metric. Like grams of sugar per twinkie!
YMMV but mostly. For cooking there’s a lot of both depending on where your recipes come from or whether you’re using e.g. a stove or a thermometer. Older generations especially tend to still use Fahrenheit for ambient temperature or miles for driving-related distances, at least where I’m from. As for whether a short distance is related to work, that seems pretty arbitrary, but if anything I would have flipped Imperial and Metric, e.g. construction is mostly Imperial like skinner said.
We haven't been hiding it, it's something we grudgingly endure. If the US had converted to metric with us in the seventies, (ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ sᴀɪᴅ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ >=/ ) we wouldn't be in this fuckin situation
Look, hating on America is well and fine, but your country deciding to use both for your convenience because people you trade with do both is not Americas fault. It doesnt matter what we use. If you use ours for ease of trade with us, thats your choice. If we use metric for ease of trade, thats on us. Its nobody elses job as a country to use any specific way for you, its your job to pick whats easiest for you.
As a Canadian engineer, I try hard to do as much as I can in metric, but so much of what we use is still stuck in imperial (think standardised materials in North America), that it's pretty difficult.
Suppliers are mostly American, still stuck in the neanderthal era, so you have to use whatever we provide. It is not a matter of choice, even for civil engineer
machinist and i haveto work in both but i find it easier to visualize in imperial. i try to use metric more , especially because some of the metric measuring devices are more accurate
Same, and previously in HS and such we were pushed to use just metric, I'd use imperial for measuring people, cooking, or building construction stuff. So using both for everything ended up with me using imperial more.
I'm an operator at a water treatment plant. We measure water coming into and out of the plant in metres cubed per second, but filter flow in litres per second. We measure chemical flows in litres per second, but the amount of chemical used is measured in kilograms. So yeah i guess it's all still metric, but even the metric-ness isn't consistent either. And we measure pressure in pounds per square inch so...idk.
This makes perfect sense except for the pressure. And m3/s and l/s is easy relatable as it's just a factor 1000 in difference - like the metric system is designed for.
I bet you procure your chemicals by weight, and you most likely dispense it by g/l, hence it makes sense to track it by that metric as well.
Sorta. It is indeed easier to convert, but there doesn't seem to be a reason why some flows are m3/s and others are L/s, was my point. Just arbitrarily decided at some point when all our processes were becoming automated in the 2000s.
And I misspoke, our chemical feed rates are litres per minute. Except for chlorine, which is fed in kg/hr lol
Looks like the system largely based on human anatomy/biology/perception gets favored when measuring personal/subjective things (hence personal height and weight, pool temps, etc) while the system built for efficient calculation and scientific function gets used in more abstract or formal situations. I suspect the “work” being imperial thing is largely about older folks not wanting to change.
Distance measured by time makes sense anywhere travel time isn’t primarily a pure function of distance.
There's a size factor to cooking too. 1 tbsp or less? spoons, nobody's gonna write 5mL for a teaspoon even though technically it'd be better. More than a cup? I think the writers decide based on if it's a simple fraction of cups or not. Also our ovens show both.
You could make one of these for the US and it gets even messier. Volume "is it soda" yes "is it a lot of soda: metric, is it a little soda: imperial". Distance: "are you running?"
I am stealing this, so I can show it to any Canadian that dares blast us for sticking to Imperial. Our system is wholly outdated, but at least we apply it consistently.
... I still wish we WOULD catch up to the rest of the world, but if Britain and Canada are anything to go by, the transitional period will be messy, and long.
Since you're one of our largest trade partners, we are forced to use imperial for one of our largest exports : Lumber. If we didn't have to deal with Americans, all our trades would be in metric which would significantly reduce the forced reliance on imperial standards. America is literally holding us back in a huge way because you REFUSE to use any metric.
And now that we're not, you can probably fix that one, and the oven temperatures one. I wish you well in this endeavor.
But why measure distances to work in imperial (while still using kph for speed)? You work in Canada. Why put your height and weight in it? That's actually not a criticism - I'm curious about the nature of this dichotomy.
It gets worse! In aviation you just kinda answer this question with a shrug! Each airline has different standards, and uses both interchangeably. Some even use imperial for size, but metric on weight. Its great.
This is rational because that's really what you need to know about it. Your speed is going to be relatively consistent. It is more or less a known Factor and thus irrelevant. The exact distance is only going to matter if there's something very specifically tied to it, like if you're figuring out how much telephone line or pipe you need for public works. In all other cases, all you really need to know is how long it takes.
We do that in parts of the US too. That location is about 30 minutes away, that city is 4 hours away. 10 miles could take 15 minutes or over an hour depending on traffic, so distance just doesn't tell you what you need to know.
This is because Time is the precious commodity. My evening isn’t measured in kilometres, it’s measured in hours and minutes, so if I have to drive somewhere I care about how many hours and minutes, not how many kilometres.
I once heard someone say “poor people measure things in dollars, rich people measure things in time” - speaking as though this was some kind of wisdom that successful people had that poor people lacked. They failed to realize that instead people just tended to measure in what was most constraining - money for poor people, time for rich people.
I've found thats also a country/urban divide in the USA. I'm from the country and I measure distance in time. My cousin is from a city and measures in miles, because at rush hour its a 2-hr drive, during the rest of the day and evening its a 1hr drive and late at night its a 15min drive.
Depends on the distance. Long distance is time short distance is imperial, if I'm designing something in cad, I use metric because it's fucking easy...
If it’s short then distance is in whatever’s convenient - centimetres for real tiny, metres for mid size, city blocks if somethings just a little ways away, etc. I’m Canadian and the only time I use imperial for length is measuring height and clothes (waistline, inseam, etc.)
Lol hell, rush hour? Just let 3 people slowly down to look at something on the side of the road..... backed up for days... I grew up in Atlanta.... I try not to go there anymore JUST because of the traffic
In the US too. I remember in grade school, 1980s, in MI they started teaching us because supposedly the change was going to happen soon then. In some parts AZ down about an hour from the Mexican border you'll still find all the speed limit signs in kilometers.
Technically, it did happen, it just wasn't enforced in a meaningful way, and never actually became true. Pretty sure there's still a law or order on the books establishing it as a metric nation somewhere.
We should have just taken over all those years ago when we burned down the White House the first time and forced metric on y'all. Would have avoided so many of our current headaches.
Yep - I pointed out elsewhere that the only times I use imperial for distance is measuring height and clothing (waistline, inseam, etc.). If we weren’t getting the exact same pants that are sold in the states, we probably wouldn’t have imperial measurements on our clothes.
Honestly I think the height thing is all about imperial being a bit less accurate than metric meaning you can "fudge" your height a little bit more either way without technically lying about it. Much harder to say you're 183cm vs actually being 182cm and have that sound impressive while saying you're 6' tall vs actually being 5'11" is a bit more ego boosting without really lying all that much. Those example measurements are approximately the same height btw.
Actually, people who live in South America are so desperate to be seen as important as the US that they will in fact consistently say they live in America. While us Canadians are the exact opposite and wish to distance ourselves from the association with the US as much as possible.
It's apparently normal in Portuguese and Spanish language traditions. I think it's unfair to try to sub in explanations of what's essentially a cultural norm.
Representing the statement that Canada is in America as a correction is also not really a fair argument, of course.
It's important to note where that cultural norm stems from though. Culturally, South American nations have been repeatedly and consistently ignored or exploited by other Western nations and have been vying to be more respected on the world stage for decades. One thing that has worked for them is to associate themselves with one of the most powerful nations in the world. Also, the correction of saying Canada is in America from their perspective is 100% valid. It is only because the US of A has >
I have a few Canadian friends, said something about "French Canadian" one time and had to listen to a tirade about "Quebecers" and "you can be French, or you can be Canadian, but you can't be both!" -_- decided not to poke that bear again lol. It seemed mostly like good natured ribbing though, at least from the outside.
1 stone = 14lbs. I'm a Brit myself and have no idea why we (and I think Ireland) are the only countries that still (ever?) use stones as a weight measurement.
Only because your measurements are anti-science. Our "official" measurements are metric in Canada, but if I want the best options for weather they are Detroit tv stations. People using Imperial at work it's because they work for an American owned company.
I mean, no different than the US in that regard. We are also technically supposed to be a metric country. The government just never bothered to enforce or pursue in in any meaningful way, so it never became true.
Not sure what anti-science is supposed to mean. Inches deny climate change or something?
Yes, Metric is more consistent and intuitive and better for literally anything. I'm not advocating for imperial, and I thought calling it "measurement bullshit" made that obvious, but clearly I have to clarify
But anything that is consistent and repeatable is compatible with science.
Most of what you said has me in disagreement; building codes and construction is all local and all in inches and feet.
I'm more inclined to believe that when Canada decided to switch to metric all the tradesmen said. "F it." and if you can't lay down a foundation in metric, you sure as hell can't build a frame or fit it that way.
The building code in Canada is definitely in metric. Any mentions of imperial use soft conversions like 1" =25mm instead of 25.4mm or 1m =3ft instead of 39.37"
Definitely should have looked that up but the answer divides nicely in both measurements; 400mm or 16 inches. I've never heard anyone use metric in construction, and I've worked on multiple jobs, with multiple crews.
QuartzPoker
All of North America is like this. England, too. Don't let anybody tell you the US is the only country that uses the Imperial system.
Travelcedric
I measure my height and weight with metric, velocity in my car by metric and temperature outside in metric. The aircraft that I work on are imperial, oven temperature is imperial and construction material is imperial. It can be confusing living in Canada
viva93
looking at the chart it just looks like they're working off the idea that work=specifics and must be accurate. Where everything else is in context of humans. Imperial is "warmer" in conversation relative to humans while metric is formal and specific. Like "Hello, how do you do today my friend?" Vs "yo sup?" both mean the same thing ones a lot more specific and rigidly formal. The others just casual and natural.
Atomic2
#1 this kills the German
TheJuiceLoosener
On a trip to rural Canada, I was at a deli counter and asked for a quarter pound of ham. The young lady behind the counter just looked at me and sorta cleared her throat. I was like, "Oh, fuck, right. Ok, hold on. One-eighth of a kilogram?" She served me the ham.
Dannyalcatraz
Dude got worked by the crowd!
Farfel8088
I just checked with Wikipedia for "unorthodox units of measurement" and discovered this: the Banana Equivalent Dose as a measure of radiation. One 'average' banana has enough radioactive material in it, mostly potassium-40, to expose you to ~78 nanosieverts, usually rounded up to 0.1 microsievert. Banana for scale, eh?
NoMuffinsToSpare
I could be converted to baking in metric. I've seen people just keep their bowl on a scale and zero it after each ingredient. Not great for like a KitchenAid mixer though, better to just dump measured ingredients while it's going
skinnermarinkykinkydink
100% accurate.
salunatics
GravyEducation
That's not a very sorry gif
BitLizard
Just wait until he hears about how we measure things in the aviation industry.
mercyPandaRunner
I am German and I don't find him particularly funny.
Is this a joke? Am I serious? Yes.
circlebreaker
It gets worse than Metric vs. Imperial, ask them about the milk.
Translicious90
Honestly this is fine compared to that chaotic list.
prufock
Only if they're under 30.
Septcanmat
As someone who grew up in the prairies and has since moved to Ontario - there ARE cartons of milk at the grocery store, meaning bagged milk is a conscientious choice made by psychopaths.
Athol
West Coaster here, but if I remember correctly from my childhood, bagged was a bit cheaper than the other options so it had that going for it
wyrframe
Coastal BC'ian here. Bagged milk was pretty standard when I was a kid, was most of the bulk for basic milks... but it's completely gone these days. Milk now comes exclusively in cartons or jugs. I think bagged might still be available in the interior and the north, though. Any Kamloopers, Kitimathians, or Hundred Mile Housers in the comments?
noobyorkcity
I don't drive, no licence (over a million of us here in NYC don't need one). When people say places are "20 minutes away, unless it's snowing" I'm like "how the fuck are places physically further away from each other in different weather?"
dripstone
As a canadian I buy my pizza by the inch!
LarryR1
Distance for travelling is measured in time. Even airlines do that. I don't care how far a place is. I care how long it takes me to get there.
Macetheace50
Sounds about right, Eh!
psyord
The funniest unit of distance I've heard is in northern Finland called "poronkusema". It's a distance reindeer can run without needing to pee. So something could be 3 reindeer pees away.
dpat13
I’m not sure why tho is confusing. It makes perfect sense to my Canadian ass.
myhumblecontribution
Washington's Dream - SNL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk
wyrframe
To be clear, this is because we started metricizing inside living memory, and the process is slowed down the fact we're living next door to the world's largest dumpster fire, which exports its steaming culture and ez-bake products using units that we have to learn to convert to and from, whether we like it or not.
Affray
1)They started teaching it in school when my mom was a kid. My whole age group was raised by people who reflexively used imperial for
Affray
2)everything instead of adapting, or at best used both. It's a weird thing how long change can take.
wyrframe
Yup, also in that age group: mother born in '59, whom has tried her best to convert but she and I both nevertheless exist as authoring guidelines for the aforelaughed flowchart.
SOLARvsFACISM
Going to Ireland I assumed I was going to need metric. Then I was having a discussion with someone and them mentioned their own weight in "stone". What the hell is stone? Oh, its 14lbs in Imperial, which is famously Base 12. Then I started noticing road signs. "Salt Hill - 12km/12Mi" What? It can't possibly be the same distance in both! While I was there maybe 1/4 (25%) of the signs I saw were like that.
Septcanmat
Here’s a video that explains (if I had to guess) how they got a road sign that said 12 in both units; https://youtu.be/kH_bSvf7EVA
Type17
The older, cast-iron signs, which were in miles, were expensive to make, so a lot of them weren't accurate - my uncle lived about 4 miles from the nearest town, and there were four junctions along the way, all of which had identical signs which said " 2 miles", even the last one which was about 300m from the centre of the town...
Affray
That's fucking funny.
gitguuud
Ah, so the Canadians are just like Brits.
theworldcouldbeflat
No, but are you offended by people suggesting Brit's are just like Americans.
gitguuud
As an American, seems somewhat unfair to the Brits.
theworldcouldbeflat
When you do Red State vs Blue State comparisons for countries you are kind of both the same with different accents.
skinnermarinkykinkydink
Except all official signs and records are in metric here (eg my driver's license says my heigh in cm not ft/in). In the UK they have mixed units on street signs even.
GravyEducation
Lots of people do hodge podge mixtures. Canadians do their thing. Brits will measure their height in feet (don't lie I've heard it done!). Americans, like the drunk guy said, use metric when talking about drugs. Liter (litre) of booze, grams of weed. There's commerce science and industry which like to use metric. Like grams of sugar per twinkie!
Californiajackson
If you're in the grocery store, it's metric. Lumber store--feet. Unless it's the hardware department. Sigh.
BallsLikeWatermelonsPeckerLikeAThimble
Holy shit is this true?
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
YMMV but mostly. For cooking there’s a lot of both depending on where your recipes come from or whether you’re using e.g. a stove or a thermometer. Older generations especially tend to still use Fahrenheit for ambient temperature or miles for driving-related distances, at least where I’m from.
As for whether a short distance is related to work, that seems pretty arbitrary, but if anything I would have flipped Imperial and Metric, e.g. construction is mostly Imperial like skinner said.
skinnermarinkykinkydink
Yep
Septcanmat
Am Canadian. Can (mostly) confirm. I don’t use imperial for work. For cooking I use whatever the recipe says.
skinnermarinkykinkydink
For work stuff it depends on the job but anything construction uses all imperial because we share parts with the US, even wood cut sizes.
charondaboatman
My god. How long has Canada been hiding behind this schizophrenic bullshit???
IUsedToHaveARealUsername
For at least 300km, or pounds idk
Neednoggle
We haven't been hiding it, it's something we grudgingly endure. If the US had converted to metric with us in the seventies, (ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ sᴀɪᴅ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ >=/ ) we wouldn't be in this fuckin situation
BorkSamson
Look, hating on America is well and fine, but your country deciding to use both for your convenience because people you trade with do both is not Americas fault.
It doesnt matter what we use. If you use ours for ease of trade with us, thats your choice. If we use metric for ease of trade, thats on us. Its nobody elses job as a country to use any specific way for you, its your job to pick whats easiest for you.
azarza
Iirc it was their idea
Affray
If true, that somehow feels way more on brand for America than just refusing to change. Refusing to change to something that they promoted.
Neednoggle
As a Canadian engineer, I try hard to do as much as I can in metric, but so much of what we use is still stuck in imperial (think standardised materials in North America), that it's pretty difficult.
TinkerThinker42
Oh didn't you hear? /s
The US no longer uses Imperial units. It's "Customary Units" now which is measurably different from Imperial.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_customary_units
MySushi
Suppliers are mostly American, still stuck in the neanderthal era, so you have to use whatever we provide. It is not a matter of choice, even for civil engineer
jjsjosCreator
machinist and i haveto work in both but i find it easier to visualize in imperial. i try to use metric more , especially because some of the metric measuring devices are more accurate
skinnermarinkykinkydink
I started using imperial units more when I was taking engineering classes.
Septcanmat
I remember first year engineering - “what the fuck is a slug?!”
skinnermarinkykinkydink
Yep!
Neednoggle
With the exception of truly just scientific stuff, I learned pretty much everything in both systems.
skinnermarinkykinkydink
Same, and previously in HS and such we were pushed to use just metric, I'd use imperial for measuring people, cooking, or building construction stuff. So using both for everything ended up with me using imperial more.
OldDickSlap
I'm an operator at a water treatment plant. We measure water coming into and out of the plant in metres cubed per second, but filter flow in litres per second. We measure chemical flows in litres per second, but the amount of chemical used is measured in kilograms. So yeah i guess it's all still metric, but even the metric-ness isn't consistent either. And we measure pressure in pounds per square inch so...idk.
Affray
1)I've done a lot of construction/warehouse/manufacturing work and it's definitely the scale of a thing that decides how people rationalise
Affray
2)the measurement scale. Truck shipments, skids, palettes, carts, always in kilos. The forklift I used to move all that shit had posted lift
Affray
3)limits in pounds, drove in miles per hour and all the fluids involved were measured in ounces and pounds per square inch. We just dance
Affray
4)this stupid line up here somewhere between logic and how America demands to function.
Skrydern
This makes perfect sense except for the pressure. And m3/s and l/s is easy relatable as it's just a factor 1000 in difference - like the metric system is designed for.
I bet you procure your chemicals by weight, and you most likely dispense it by g/l, hence it makes sense to track it by that metric as well.
OldDickSlap
Sorta. It is indeed easier to convert, but there doesn't seem to be a reason why some flows are m3/s and others are L/s, was my point. Just arbitrarily decided at some point when all our processes were becoming automated in the 2000s.
And I misspoke, our chemical feed rates are litres per minute. Except for chlorine, which is fed in kg/hr lol
Woogyface
RichardPotato
I once saw a UK version of the same, and it was next to the comparatively simple US one (just science and soda for metric, I think)
Sonicschilidogs
Science, soda, drugs (illegal and legal), and some booze.
frozenlake247
Looks like the system largely based on human anatomy/biology/perception gets favored when measuring personal/subjective things (hence personal height and weight, pool temps, etc) while the system built for efficient calculation and scientific function gets used in more abstract or formal situations. I suspect the “work” being imperial thing is largely about older folks not wanting to change.
Distance measured by time makes sense anywhere travel time isn’t primarily a pure function of distance.
HypnagogicHallucinations
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MW5kbGI2bDZqcmRka3V3ZXhnZGNoZTlyMnNqYzJocTJyYnY3MG11NyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/f9wlGsHke4vB2aQ5Re/200w.webp
Alistairetheblu
There's a size factor to cooking too. 1 tbsp or less? spoons, nobody's gonna write 5mL for a teaspoon even though technically it'd be better. More than a cup? I think the writers decide based on if it's a simple fraction of cups or not. Also our ovens show both.
YELLOWnotYELLOW
Wait. Am I the only one who measure distance by number of songs?
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
Packets of beef jerky
Evenmoreuselessname
You could make one of these for the US and it gets even messier. Volume "is it soda" yes "is it a lot of soda: metric, is it a little soda: imperial". Distance: "are you running?"
DukeDarkwood
I am stealing this, so I can show it to any Canadian that dares blast us for sticking to Imperial. Our system is wholly outdated, but at least we apply it consistently.
... I still wish we WOULD catch up to the rest of the world, but if Britain and Canada are anything to go by, the transitional period will be messy, and long.
Moriarte
Since you're one of our largest trade partners, we are forced to use imperial for one of our largest exports : Lumber.
If we didn't have to deal with Americans, all our trades would be in metric which would significantly reduce the forced reliance on imperial standards.
America is literally holding us back in a huge way because you REFUSE to use any metric.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
Not totally. Once we learned that litres are bigger than quarts, the 2-litre soda bottle reigned supreme.
DukeDarkwood
And now that we're not, you can probably fix that one, and the oven temperatures one. I wish you well in this endeavor.
But why measure distances to work in imperial (while still using kph for speed)? You work in Canada. Why put your height and weight in it? That's actually not a criticism - I'm curious about the nature of this dichotomy.
circlebreaker
YoureNotMadeOfTuesday
And therefore, the world.
azazyel
koffiejuffrouw101
Hero
TheBlackSonOfTheHonestMan
... you disappointed me today Canada
Sanguinius4893
Sorry bud
TinkerThinker42
leechdemon
That one's metric, surprisingly. 🤣
NairouTryyshokk
It gets worse! In aviation you just kinda answer this question with a shrug! Each airline has different standards, and uses both interchangeably. Some even use imperial for size, but metric on weight. Its great.
acountrymember
I bet Air Canada uses metric pretty consistently though, ever since the incident.
NairouTryyshokk
We dont talk about the incident... but you are correct.
tReasonoustRump
BarryTheCyborg
Is that not internationally standardized?!
NairouTryyshokk
"Kinda" basically it is for international shipments, but then a lot change back for domestic. Soooo...
Evo435
Am I blind, I don't see time as a distance measurment.
judyblue
There were edits in the footage; that may have been verbalized by the audience at some point.
NooPogodi
Well, for me, Chilliwack is about an hour away, Kelowna is 4-5 hours away
CommunCreator
If you were going to drive to Toronto, would you cross the border?
AnotherBeardedCanadian
Not anymore I won't
ipokeangrycats
I think he means the whole “time” segment from the comedian doesn’t seem to be linked to this picture. No where in the picture is “time” found.
AnotherBeardedCanadian
Hello fellow vancouverite o/
notsurewhattocallthis
Distance is measured in Time.
IWantedOneOfThoseLongUsernamesTooSoIGotOne
When you're traveling, it's the only sensible system. Walking a mile up Mt. Everest is a lot different from walking a mile on a flat, level road.
nosilazurc11
The drive from calgary to Banff, is 1 hour
sittingherethinkingthinkingimsittingherelisteningtoyou
People trip out that in CA not only do we often use time, but it almost becomes a test as to who can do it faster.
Vectron
The moon is 3 days away, give or take.
SwampApe75
distance traveled
PowerPedant
That's indeed the actual definition nowadays: 1 meter is the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second.
Larktonguesinadicecup
This is rational because that's really what you need to know about it. Your speed is going to be relatively consistent. It is more or less a known Factor and thus irrelevant. The exact distance is only going to matter if there's something very specifically tied to it, like if you're figuring out how much telephone line or pipe you need for public works. In all other cases, all you really need to know is how long it takes.
TinyBadger101
We do that in parts of the US too. That location is about 30 minutes away, that city is 4 hours away. 10 miles could take 15 minutes or over an hour depending on traffic, so distance just doesn't tell you what you need to know.
Septcanmat
This is because Time is the precious commodity. My evening isn’t measured in kilometres, it’s measured in hours and minutes, so if I have to drive somewhere I care about how many hours and minutes, not how many kilometres.
notsurewhattocallthis
Measurement in the amount of your life given up. Yes.
Septcanmat
I once heard someone say “poor people measure things in dollars, rich people measure things in time” - speaking as though this was some kind of wisdom that successful people had that poor people lacked. They failed to realize that instead people just tended to measure in what was most constraining - money for poor people, time for rich people.
pdp1
v = d/t and in Canada d=t, therefore you're always traveling at velocity 1 in Canada
SOLARvsFACISM
I've found thats also a country/urban divide in the USA. I'm from the country and I measure distance in time. My cousin is from a city and measures in miles, because at rush hour its a 2-hr drive, during the rest of the day and evening its a 1hr drive and late at night its a 15min drive.
rowzdowr
I lived in rural Indiana before, and we definitely measure everything that way. I live in a city in update NY now and still do, FWIW.
My brother lives down in NYC, though, and measures everything in city blocks.
GravyEducation
Minnesota here.
tzahtman
Sometimes in parsecs
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
CyberHexx
Depends on the distance. Long distance is time short distance is imperial, if I'm designing something in cad, I use metric because it's fucking easy...
Septcanmat
If it’s short then distance is in whatever’s convenient - centimetres for real tiny, metres for mid size, city blocks if somethings just a little ways away, etc. I’m Canadian and the only time I use imperial for length is measuring height and clothes (waistline, inseam, etc.)
RainierAlt
and if the dimensions of something are given in imperial, convert, the continue on with the rest of the design in metric. 😁
neaxi
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
from Peachtree to Peachtree
gitguuud
Oh man, must not be rush hour for it to be that quick to get from Atlanta to Atlanta
xFlenserx
Lol hell, rush hour? Just let 3 people slowly down to look at something on the side of the road..... backed up for days... I grew up in Atlanta.... I try not to go there anymore JUST because of the traffic
Wolfshead009
Now do Chicago. :D
TheUnnamedPoet
I live four hours away from Vancouver.
Athol
Assuming no wait time for the ferry I guess I'm about an hour or so from Vancouver
tReasonoustRump
serleth
So I'm probably about ten hours away from you
crimpitdown9001
Would that be Portland?
serleth
No, I'm drinking maple syrup with the moose
AnotherBeardedCanadian
I'm in Langley, so depending on time of day I'm either 2.5 hours from Vancouver or 30 minutes. There is no in-between
dpat13
Yes fellow Langley-ite. This is true of going in any direction
KolliFlaur
Me too op!
GravyEducation
Spider-man measures distance in time too. How fast can you get there. And Spidey is cool so
TinaEveFox
I live in Toronto so I'm about an hour away from Toronto.
Affray
UpNorthAndFreezing
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theworldcouldbeflat
You only really live in Toronto if you have the TTC.
LordOfTheFleas
And curse it every day
BishlamekGurpgork
As an American, I always thought we were #1 at measurement bullshit.
emu314159127001
Holy Christ. Canadians really go in for the fuckery. Hat's off to you all
B99Reactions
well you're still #1 at bullshit in general, so there's that
BishlamekGurpgork
See, I knew we were #1.
B99Reactions
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nclu
Lot's of things in the US (our calendar format for instance) comes from when it split culturally from England. There's a good chance we all would have been on metric over here if it hadn't been for pirates sinking our kilogram https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/28/574044232/how-pirates-of-the-caribbean-hijacked-americas-metric-system
LinemanMatt
Super interesting, thanks!
YouRadicalizedMe
You are
rbudrick
Americans are a dual system as well. We're just bad at celsius and kilometers. Military uses kilometers tho. Everything else we use every day.
bitemark
In Canada there was a big push to move everything to metric in the 80s, then they sorta gave up halfway through
LinemanMatt
In the US too. I remember in grade school, 1980s, in MI they started teaching us because supposedly the change was going to happen soon then.
In some parts AZ down about an hour from the Mexican border you'll still find all the speed limit signs in kilometers.
BishlamekGurpgork
Technically, it did happen, it just wasn't enforced in a meaningful way, and never actually became true. Pretty sure there's still a law or order on the books establishing it as a metric nation somewhere.
threepotatoesinatrenchcoat
Typical American, always thinking you're #1
Anfalicious
At least you're consistently doing it wrong
BishlamekGurpgork
I mean, we still get soda in liters, but mostly consistent.
Alozar
We aren't even close. They do this same shit in Britain too they just pretend they don't and then act high and mighty about it.
johnhatten2
In britain they measure their bridges twice. Once in metric, once in imperial
StellarJay77
And their fucking weight in "stones" whatever that is.
Neednoggle
We would be far more metric here in Canada if it weren't for our relationship with the US.
thetonestarr
Yeah the mess you guys have going on is 80% our fault, 20% your short-sighted lawmakers' faults.
StellarJay77
We should have just taken over all those years ago when we burned down the White House the first time and forced metric on y'all. Would have avoided so many of our current headaches.
thetonestarr
Is it too late to request a do over?
HandsomePenguin
Yuuuup
Septcanmat
Yep - I pointed out elsewhere that the only times I use imperial for distance is measuring height and clothing (waistline, inseam, etc.). If we weren’t getting the exact same pants that are sold in the states, we probably wouldn’t have imperial measurements on our clothes.
StellarJay77
Honestly I think the height thing is all about imperial being a bit less accurate than metric meaning you can "fudge" your height a little bit more either way without technically lying about it. Much harder to say you're 183cm vs actually being 182cm and have that sound impressive while saying you're 6' tall vs actually being 5'11" is a bit more ego boosting without really lying all that much. Those example measurements are approximately the same height btw.
theskepticinme
Sorry
SVcross
Canada is in America.
BishlamekGurpgork
Have you ever before in your life, ever referred to the entire continent of North or South America as "America" without irony or confusion?
Like, if you go out on the street and tell people that Brazil is in America, they'll look at you like you're demented, and you know it.
SVcross
Yes, I have. In Chile, Argentina, Perú and Ecuador.
BishlamekGurpgork
Huh. Apparently that IS a thing in specifically Portugese and Spanish traditions. TIL.
I still believe you knew exactly what the intended meaning was, and knew you were switching out definitions to get to a gotcha moment.
BishlamekGurpgork
(Specifically, the traditions of that spoken language, not the countries.)
StellarJay77
Actually, people who live in South America are so desperate to be seen as important as the US that they will in fact consistently say they live in America. While us Canadians are the exact opposite and wish to distance ourselves from the association with the US as much as possible.
BishlamekGurpgork
It's apparently normal in Portuguese and Spanish language traditions. I think it's unfair to try to sub in explanations of what's essentially a cultural norm.
Representing the statement that Canada is in America as a correction is also not really a fair argument, of course.
StellarJay77
It's important to note where that cultural norm stems from though. Culturally, South American nations have been repeatedly and consistently ignored or exploited by other Western nations and have been vying to be more respected on the world stage for decades. One thing that has worked for them is to associate themselves with one of the most powerful nations in the world. Also, the correction of saying Canada is in America from their perspective is 100% valid. It is only because the US of A has >
TeddyMoment
At least the Canadians are sorry about it.
Athol
Ha, no we're not.
myhamstergotdead
I heard the word "sorry" in my head.
TheBunnyPants
Sawry
wejustdontknow
Soory
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Unless you’re French Canadian.
spookyu
I have a few Canadian friends, said something about "French Canadian" one time and had to listen to a tirade about "Quebecers" and "you can be French, or you can be Canadian, but you can't be both!" -_- decided not to poke that bear again lol. It seemed mostly like good natured ribbing though, at least from the outside.
MrFancyPanzer
Wait until you hear about the Brits
GordonFreeman59
If the metric system had not been invented in France, they'd be using it ;)
whatisimgurallabout
I still have to look up conversions every time I hear how many stone someone weighs
LokiShade
I'm American, mom's side is English. I'm 48 and still don't know how tf to use "stones".
NeverDunNuffin
1 stone = 14lbs. I'm a Brit myself and have no idea why we (and I think Ireland) are the only countries that still (ever?) use stones as a weight measurement.
theworldcouldbeflat
Only because your measurements are anti-science. Our "official" measurements are metric in Canada, but if I want the best options for weather they are Detroit tv stations. People using Imperial at work it's because they work for an American owned company.
BishlamekGurpgork
I mean, no different than the US in that regard. We are also technically supposed to be a metric country. The government just never bothered to enforce or pursue in in any meaningful way, so it never became true.
Not sure what anti-science is supposed to mean. Inches deny climate change or something?
theworldcouldbeflat
Actually the math for physics (engineering) is easier in metric. That's why most of the world uses it, lol.
BishlamekGurpgork
Yes, Metric is more consistent and intuitive and better for literally anything. I'm not advocating for imperial, and I thought calling it "measurement bullshit" made that obvious, but clearly I have to clarify
But anything that is consistent and repeatable is compatible with science.
theworldcouldbeflat
Sorry, antiscience is more a slur used by the other English countries, no offense intended.
Kennleth
Most of what you said has me in disagreement; building codes and construction is all local and all in inches and feet.
I'm more inclined to believe that when Canada decided to switch to metric all the tradesmen said. "F it." and if you can't lay down a foundation in metric, you sure as hell can't build a frame or fit it that way.
theworldcouldbeflat
Forgot about 2 by 4's my bad.
Subwayfootlong3
The building code in Canada is definitely in metric. Any mentions of imperial use soft conversions like 1" =25mm instead of 25.4mm or 1m =3ft instead of 39.37"
Kennleth
How far apart are studs?
Kennleth
Definitely should have looked that up but the answer divides nicely in both measurements; 400mm or 16 inches. I've never heard anyone use metric in construction, and I've worked on multiple jobs, with multiple crews.