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Sep 2, 2020 11:54 PM
ChunkyChewbacca
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NessaAesyth
I see it as kind of romantic. If you think about it, all they're doing is hoping he's doing well in his next life.
Urgalicity
It people like this who convince me that religiousity is a mental illness.
Redbeard54
What I wanna know is, if that’s the truth, where did that guy get that fucking information?
dontfuqtheworldupohwaityoudid
Didn’t he ultimately discover love was at the heart of the theory of everything?
commentsivehadafew
onlyspeaksSarcasm
And I approve of that escalation!
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
Technically...
wobblecopterrrr
noonehasthisoneyet
Dudes 90!
OldSchool93
CptNTennille
I’m shaving thish one for later.
cormone
Shavage. The leftovers from a particularly gnarled shaving incident
bripi
One cannot miss a truth that is not there. RIP Hawking, and fuck Franklin Graham. Oh, and I love this post!
squiffy69
What a tit!
NewtGinGrinch
DayakavitaminD
Wept
Nanananahatman
Is his dad Lindsay Graham? Is he dead? Say it is so. Please.
mtnbks
Billy not Lindsay
oilgod
Well, obviously he's got direct communication with God, so he's got that going for him at least...
youreapieceofshitmorty
nullbr
Its Satin
Rickdnger
SneakyEmu2
What exactly was the reason such a response?
ChunkyChewbacca
Televangelist sack of shit son of a televangelist sack of shit
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
I'm still banned from The Cove, I pretended to be an upstanding young man taking a tour. My brief time in seminary finally came in handy.
thechelonianshelmet
Lol at Frankie, all he's ever done is scag wads off the gullible, when he's not bobbing on a fungus.
fastjeff
DaisyfromDownunder
Despite what Stephen advised him, He gave us a lethal Covid virus, because He wants you fuckers dead.
therandombagofmeat
BobKatt
Staggles
wrenchhead
trddygramz
BobKatt
isitmyturn
In the 80s, I put on a firework display for a big private party in the UK. Chatted to the head security bloke while setting up. /1
isitmyturn
Huge, bullet-headed, seen everything. He said his previous gig was security for Billy G's UK tour, and an important part of the job was /2
isitmyturn
sneaking hookers into the hotel for the big man's delectation.
Rhyuji
so enjoy it when religious people make statements as if they are in conference with GOD every day and KNOW what God is thinking about
ChilledOutEntertainer
Its fun to know that apart from the truly self-deceived, they know in themselves that they dont have a clue whether God exists or not, just
ChilledOutEntertainer
like the rest of us.
Camelspotting
That's well acknowledged.
digitalist1
but which God?
moonsaves
It can't be that simple if everyone disagrees on it.
sirbartonslady
You CAN be a scientist and also have faith in a higher power. But insisting that biblical stories are 100% factual and science is a lie...
thatauzzieguy
You can have a profession and love where everything is based on demonstrable facts AND have faith in handed down stories seems strange.
Soldon
Not really. Some people like having a little mystery in parts of their lives, especially when they work to bring order in other parts.
TheDudeOrHisDudeness
faith in higher power is one thing, but believing random fantasy book is just fucking stupid (and holding it above science and/or law)
sirbartonslady
my point exactly. Not every religious person believes the Bible (esp the Old Testament) is 100% accurate. Science & faith can coexist.
chrispydtankPS4
Isn't it contradictory? You save a life where Gods plan was to have it end. We evolved from apes yet we came from Adam and Eve? Nah, silly
sirbartonslady
You can have faith in God and Jesus while viewing the Bible (esp Old Testament) as nothing more than a bunch of stories, not facts.
chrispydtankPS4
Well I made examples but it is all religions I was pointing out. It isn't about the Bible only, especially, we do the deities "work" and
chrispydtankPS4
Know that what would be the deities work is not. Even look at the Universe, it is an odd place to fit a god or gods in.
Markamanic
Does this 'simple truth' have any credible evidence to support it?
Stephen9000
Of course not. If there were any evidence people wouldn't have to resort to faith.
Markamanic
Earth is only 6000 years old bro, it said so in a book of unsubstantiated claims.
Rogwell
Fadetoblack021
checksandbalancesplease
Sorry, I don't talk to invisible friends anymore. You're welcome to do so, but stop trying to write laws to force your agenda.
fmlsuxD
It that a written law?
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Reductio ad absurdum. Reducing an argument to absurd level to discredit it. Also completely ignores nontheistic religions.
checksandbalancesplease
Usually, I prefer an hominem.
physicsisalwaysrelevant
I think most arguments on the internet eventually resort to ad hominem
checksandbalancesplease
Yes, too true. I blush to admit... yeah, if I am pissed enough I will go for the cheap burn.
lawrabbit
Religion was irrelevant to him in the pursuit of knowledge. His views were very clear in "A brief history of time."
IamfunatpartiesIknow
Yes, but he was clearly an atheist. At least that's how I read it
VaultGirl69
I feel the same way. The universe is chaos and order is a human abstract.
shyasen
Who downvotes provable facts & information? Oh, right.
IamfunatpartiesIknow
This is an opinion though not a fact
shyasen
What tenaciousjeebs said.
tenaciousjeebs
It’s a fact that this was Hawking’s view on religion.
IamfunatpartiesIknow
No, this is how you interpreted his book. My understanding was that he has a pretty clear opinion on religion
tenaciousjeebs
What are you even trying to argue? It’s a documented fact that he was an atheist, and is quoting as saying that although god may have made
LordofSandvich
From a purely scientific perspective, that's what it boils down to. God existing or not does not change reality, nor should it.
HsuDoNihm
Precisely. It is what it is, *whatever* it is. Proving the unprovable is a futile effort when there's so much we *can* know.
ChilledOutEntertainer
I dont think so. A universe created by a god *could* be demonstrably different to one which wasn't. It seems like a huge statement about
ChilledOutEntertainer
reality to say a conscious being created the universe, or one didnt.
AncientSeraph
It's unprovable, though, so it's a bit of a wasted effort. Better to look at provable stuff. More fun.
ChilledOutEntertainer
Is it unprovable? What if God re-arranges the stars and writes "I am God and I created the Universe" out of them. That would be a good bit
LordofSandvich
It's a logical axiom; in ours, there is no proof or disproof. I can't actually prove yesterday is anything more than a memory.
nonsensecomment
As a devout Christian, I strongly support this message
Hullaballoonatic
If God existing has no impact on the universe then that is entirely no different from god not existing.
Septcanmat
Science and religion seek to answer completely different questions. They’re completely orthogonal to each other.
kitamuramiike
At this point in human history, for sure. Though I'd argie that religion before a certain point was a catchall to explain natural phenomena
Ireallylikepuzzles
But maybe does impact the souls universe? Idk how to call it but according to religion it does make a difference... after you die tho
WhatBackWaterCountry
There’s no such thing as a soul and after you die you stop existing. I don’t know why people find that so disturbing.
LordofSandvich
It's a logical axiom; we have no proof or disproof due to its physical irrelevance.
Ireallylikepuzzles
People can think whatever they want about their existence and purpose. I don't know why people find that so disturbing
Hullaballoonatic
It's easy to understand why people find nonexistence disturbing. We're traveling in one direction in time. We want to protect ourselves. If
JudgementalMan
It absolutely does???
LordofSandvich
Like Orein says, it doesn't. Morals are good for us whether God told us about them or not. That's why sola fide is bad - you are exposed to/
LordofSandvich
God without ever practicing what he tells you, so you are no longer ignorant but instead living in willful sin.
JudgementalMan
This has nothing to do with morals. If god existed it would be an entity of enormous power, a phenomena of paramount scientific importance.
Orein
How? If God exists, things operate the way he decided they do. If he doesn't, they operate the way they operate. Either way, it's the same.
Orein
The only thing that would change that is if God decided to take a more hands-on attitude with the universe and reveal his existence.
Orein
However, until that happens, there is absolutely no way to tell whether he simply does not exist, or has decided to keep himself hidden.
vitaminalgas
Who's the top twat?
ChunkyChewbacca
Televangelist sack of shit son of a televangelist sack of shit
gotreference
Jerry Falwell Jr?
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
Nah, though can we really be sure he's the Jr? *winks in Miller Tale*
NZSheeps
No, he's over there in the corner .... watching
SoLongSaulGood
Same ilk different name. Fuck the televangelist family named the Grahams. I hope they all burn in hell.
EnjoyThisGIFofYourUsername
mcpma
Are you basing your judgment of his father solely on being a preacher? Even the bare minimum of Googling shows his father as decent, 1/2
UnitedGalactic
He still poisoned American Conservatives with his bullshit.
mcpma
speaking against racism when it was widely accepted and at the least having positive interactions with MLK Jr. 2/2
WoodORama
Billy Graham was a raging antisemite, a racist and hypocrite who buddied up with Richard Nixon. The devil is in the details, seems fitting?
Stephen9000
Oh well how can anyone compete with your bare minimum?
mcpma
If a cursory Google search and browsing of articles of a famous historical figure doesn't turn up anything objectively bad, asking why 1/2
LychFinderGeneral
A public figure speaking against racism wasn't minimal 60 years ago, obviously