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DrDadJokes
Zodiak Killer look strangely like Ted Cruze
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
I may have to change human suits. Ted Cruz is the worst
DrDadJokes
I understand
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Hitler always loved dogs too. Evil is not a mustache and laughing maniacally. History’s worst monsters appeared like perfectly normal people
WouldYouNot
Sometimes I wonder if there's evil in every one of us and it's waiting for that one moment of our weakness.
slotheroll
ApparentlyImaPsychopath
I went to high school with BTK's son and my aunt and uncle lived a block away from BTK. Thank God the city tore his house down
Ohlookatrashpanda
Went to prison in eldorado Kansas for a year and a half. the btk killer has so many fans and people that send him money it makes me sick.
verdenvidia
I lived out there for a bit. I'm sure you get this a lot... what'd you do lol
Ohlookatrashpanda
I was 17 and I stole cigs from a car
verdenvidia
got 18 months for that??
Ohlookatrashpanda
Yep i was dumb enough to plead guilty for burglary and they gave me the max with no chance of probation
Ohlookatrashpanda
Sent me to a maximum security prison eldorado I was 18
Mrbrown512
I’m divided on this one, this kids case is gonna be interesting
shadowex3
Watch more of the videos and read the eyewitness testimony from reporters who were there and saw him throughout the day, it's open and shut.
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
Yep. Going to jail for a long time. I'm glad.
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
Fedotia
...source?
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
This is so old, I don’t even know anymore
GullahGullahIslander
Relevant username here +1
ILaughAndCryEveryDayFromU
Couldnt be more relevant
GullahGullahIslander
ILACEDFU 2 +1 ......
IBentMyWookie
snooch2thegouch
dogwithahumanface
Did Ted Cruz really make a Simpsons reference? Why?
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
No idea
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HillOfBeans
Username checks out
goodbyeitwasfunwhileitlasted
You missed the one where they introduced Timothy McVeigh
StillChasingFireflies
Ah shit.
FractalShadows
Lol that's hilarious "hey you missed this" "ah shit" (doesn't fix it) +1 my man
KitchenClean
Just redo it. You’ll go FP fo sho.
StillChasingFireflies
Can I edit the post and add them? Idk, never seen FP ?
KitchenClean
1-You’re adorable. I don’t know how to edit the post by adding more pics. I only know how to edit text. I was suggesting starting from
IronGravyBoat
You're adorable!
KitchenClean
2- scratch and then reposting.
gogoGandhiMagicVibratingFingers
That type of attention to detail is why you're the best damn detective this town's got.
thrillho742
Doesn’t play by the rules but dammit, he gets results!
StillChasingFireflies
Looks like there were some good Hitler, Mao, and Stalin ones after too.
JamesRosco
Real communism has never been tried!
springuy8
Redo! That was good shit I need more seriously..
Hurraachneedochnicht
WE WANT MOAR PRETTY PLEASE
StillChasingFireflies
I have more from Twitter but I don't know how to add it. :(
MoonRiverFrost
Don't think you can add photos, just text, do you'll have to make a new post.
MoonRiverFrost
Don't know how wise iyer is to follow the advice of an @evilsalmon but we'll go with it XD
Hurraachneedochnicht
Is there an edit post option? Or does that just work for adding text? Maybe make a new post if that doesn't work
license2kilt
Decorated war veteran, bronze star recipient for heroic deeds, murdered 168 men, women, and children.
DHooligan3485
I'm sure he was a nice guy when he wasn't busy being a terrorist
Maitis
Did any if then defend themselves from a mob of violent attackers?
Seanspeed
Bad people typically think they were justified in their actions and will have other garbage people who try and justify it with BS arguments.
Maitis
Was this Kyle not just defending private property, before falling back, and shooting only after getting attacked and almost shot himself?
Maitis
By a dude committing a double war crime none at the same time none the less?
StevePMM
It bugs me when people use stuff like this in arguments excusing monstrosity, as thought the fact that people aren't defined 1/?
StevePMM
utterly by a single dimension of their character somehow exempts them from the consequences of their actions. 2/?
StevePMM
I call it Nice Boy fallacy, as in "Oh, but he's such a nice boy, he'd never do anything bad!" (I don't know if this is an actual thing 3/3
StevePMM
(Disclaimer; I know that's not what this post is doing, I just raising a semi-related point)
uusseerrssuubb
I’m on the side that believes he was acting in self defense, but I also think that one picture of “doing good” is like a cherrypicked stat.>
uusseerrssuubb
Theres like waaay too much that happened to go off of one picture.
Chefpnut
And I raise you one Jeffrey Epstein with his BFF
Barbanera
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B00P9k
Whoa. When Rittenhouse rape and murder numerous women?
plingplinggoesmydingding
I thought I'd see Hitler petting a dog
Alfadorfox
I was waiting for that picture and was disappointed.
PoorSucker
Bergman777
Looks like a nice lad
electricwizard
Of course it's a gsd
PoorSucker
Other dogs: voff voff, GSD: woffen woffen
mythology333
Evil isn't like it is in movies. No one is cruel all day every day, pretending the moments of humanity erase evil is foolish.
gcHatMan10
Good example from media is Arthur Mitchell from Dexter
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
I could also see kyle just doing these things to build up an image before he went and shot people. His older history wasn’t so pretty.
Kbantar
I've never seen any image where the BTK guy didn't look evil. Maybe not literally a serial killer but definitely a don't turn your back guy.
HalfSong
“One good deed is not enough to redeem a man for a lifetime of wickedness.”
rbudrick
For may evil fucks I can name, they are pure evil, all the time.
JustinSane6
Think so? Let me introduce you to the president of the United States.
mythology333
And he is, without a doubt, a "living" turd. But he once gave directions to the kid in Home Alone 2". Its impossible to be 100% evil all the
rbudrick
There being evil sometimes, and then there's the broken clock who is right twice a day.
mythology333
Time. He gets by with 99% of the time.
mikeatike
Or letting people believe "they are monsters, a real human would never do that." Yes, Karen, humans can be evil piles of shit.
mythology333
Its why I don't like people calling Hitler a monster. He waa evil never question that, but calling someone a monster removes them from-
mythology333
Human expectations. There was nothing magical or special about Hitler and those like him, every person has the capacity for horrendous evil-
mythology333
And pretending like only monsters are capable of it blinds us to evil around us. We aren't monsters so we couldn't be evil. And slowly we-
mythology333
Blindly creep towards more wicked decisions and actions.
VulcanP90
The people who really seem to hate Hollywood sure do like to pretend life is like any movie they've ever seen.
AgentPothead
^^^ That's why the rest of the universe wants nothing to do with shaved apes. "Occasionally not evil" isn't the same thing as "not evil".
extralargehobo
Osama bin Laden played Animal Crossing and watched anime. Just sayin”
StillChasingFireflies
Obviously, but people using single "good" acts to negate the bad is equally futile. That's the point.
Inkfinger
I doubt he's an angel but that doesn't make a self defense shooter a serial killer
SquabbleMcSquadson
The point is he was not there simply looking for trouble. But why be bothered by details when we already have the story we want, right?
mythology333
That is, literally what I just said.
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
Loving dogs does not excuse killing millions, no
StillChasingFireflies
My apologies, I thought you were implying the other side. In my defense, I'm realllyyy hungry right now and miss cheese.
mythology333
No worries. Hope you get some food soon. And I recommend a nice English coastal cheddar.
StillChasingFireflies
That sounds amazing! My husband recently came out as lactose intolerant, so I'm craving cheese in this house HARD! I'll look up the recipe!
jaydawgx7
Right?! I got pulled over for speeding once. That doesn't mean I always drive over the speed limit
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
I've never been pulled over for speeding. And the only time I've done the limit is when I'm accelerating from a stop
LetsBeFair
Except he didn’t do anything bad?
CrazedZealot
You are talking about Kyle and not Hitler right?
LetsBeFair
Since you can’t tell the difference that makes you what is wrong with America today
CrazedZealot
I was joking
Starcatcher1986
I've literally seen people here say that Hitler did nothing wrong. We don't know you and what you might mean to say.
Ihazcheeseburger
Comparing a kid that arguably acted in self defense (will not be convicted of murder) against some pretty shitty people to Ted Bundy?
mythology333
Yes, the boy with the ar 15 was so helpless and scared only 2 killings and a maiming could make him feel safe again.
Ihazcheeseburger
1) Yeah the pedophile spouting the n word and telling him too shoot him and making threats before later chasing and trying to assault him
Ihazcheeseburger
4) Without a gun there is a good chance the kid is dead. Don't cry because that racist pedophile knowingly brought his fists to a gun fight.
Ihazcheeseburger
3) Do you really think a larger, adult pedophile beating on a kid while the kid is trying to retreat isn't a threat to his life?
Ihazcheeseburger
2) got shot in the head during his assault. Boo freaking hoo. Find better heroes.
slinkiisu
Speak for yourself I'm always evil
daguq
Reminds me of when people criticised "Downfall" coz it humanised Hitler. Well, yes. Hitler was a human, and humans do BAD shit.
YeaThoughIWalkThroughTheValleyOfRandom
Someone said it was dangerous to dehumanize evil, like because it blinds you to evil humans
SatansLeftNipple
Right. Let’s ban humans then, obviously that shit is never going to work out.
theoneandonlyandrewtheonly
Exactly! It's much more terrifying, imo, to witness the mundane and familiar in those who commit unspeakable acts.
TacTheScribbler
Seems to me this is the basis for a lot of great literature. To name one off the top of my head: The Fall of the House of Usher, by
TacTheScribbler
Edgar Allen Poe.
LyraTheLycan
Remember the 'Dead Giveaway' dude? He said in the interview "I *barbecued* with this man!" "And you didn't know.." "Not a thing!"
SupercoolThanks
I wonder how many people saw the footage
shadowex3
Remember these are the same people who'll watch CNN reporters in front of a burning building say "Peaceful protest" and go along with it.
SupercoolThanks
Lmao so true
amadteaparty81
amadteaparty81
amadteaparty81
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKrL9GO1JuA&feature=youtu.be&t=7https://youtu.be/LKrL9GO1JuA?t=7 video of the first img, this stuff is redic
Seanspeed
Nope. But y'all are the type who take selective media footage and ignore that the vast majority of people are peacefully protesting. Cuz
shadowex3
"vast majority"? Tell that to the people whose businesses were burned down, who were raped and murderedin CHAZ, who were murdered in riots..
Seanspeed
YOU are the ones who believe what you want to believe. Cuz you're bootlicking scumbags who hate BLM and what they stand for.
SupercoolThanks
Dude. I dont understand this outrage. You know nothing about the guy who commented. They could be left leaning but not agree with everything
shadowex3
Sounds like the only one licking any boots here is you chief, i'm not the one backing a movement whose big names quote hitler in public.
SupercoolThanks
Also, we all know that the rioters and looters are different groups. We arent the ones putting then in the same box
nonCanadianGoose
I raise you Hitler instating strict laws against animal abuse
jeffpesos
Which goes to show the standard he held a good chunk of tne European population to for decades :/
shadowex3
And yet today we're told that if bad people agree with you that automatically makes you as bad as them.
heinstein
Serial killers vs dude that defend himself.
Skuxlife
Makes complete sense
Seanspeed
Serial killer vs person who wanted to his opportunity to kill liberals/black people. Fuck off bootlicker.
heinstein
People who actively found victims, vs man who had to defend himself being attacked. Bootlicker? Is your moms snatch called boot?
DubaFilajDIICOT
People who chased him and one of them even had a gun.
7000plus
One of these things is not like the other
Icantbieveyouatethewholething
Don't try and use logic.
theyar
At least two.
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
Animorphs
Trump was right, his wife is ugly.
R4nd0m3rr0r
The one on the left is not his wife. It's him.
Animorphs
No that’s Patrick.
Nothrazim
The fucking trees, my sides have entered the stratosphere
senseihugo
The bushes as well!
dizzyturtle
Hopefully there is one thing everyone can learn from this. Don't bring a skateboard to a gun fight.
ReginaKasteen
You just gave me a great idea for the next Tony Hawk game.
shadowex3
Also "Don't be a violent child rapist or violent wifebeating abuser and try to attack local businesses defended by other locals".
Harambaegel
This is shitposting right? The 17 year old kid defended his own life from criminals seeking to harm him and businesses. Apples to oranges.
TimeFoDat
You can’t claim you’re “just defending yourself” when you’re in the middle of committing a crime. The crime taints your defense.
Mimsey
He's also a fanatical "blue lives matter" type who wants to be a cop. He was there LARPing as a cop despite having no training.
Mimsey
His motive and actions demonstrate a willful disregard for human life. He's a criminal.
Harambaegel
Please nobody engage this troll Mimsey. This user has demonstrated a clear inability to objectively look at facts and conclude.
shadowex3
His motive? You mean spending an entire day cleaning graffiti and giving people medical aid while publicly voicing support for BLM?
Mimsey
He came from out of state with a rifle, declared himself protector of a random business, sparking deadly confrontations with protesters.
shadowex3
Wrong, he came from twenty minutes away and volunteer cleaning graffiti and giving people medical aid the entire day. He didnt bring the gun
Rayxzerox
He came from out of state, it was also a 20 minute drive to do so.
shadowex3
Funny how you guys are so open borders right up until someone drives over a state line and you can use that
Rayxzerox
It's a state's right to police the transportation of arms into their state, did you forget which side you were pretending to be on?
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Except the deadly part wss started by protesters it wss self defence no matter if the rifle was illegal https://youtu.be/ts43EskooaA
Mimsey
The 17 year old came from out of state to point a gun at protesters and threaten them. This had predictably lethal consequences.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
He apparently worked there already. Not out of state.
shadowex3
He lived twenty minutes down the street and came to clean graffiti and give people medical care, he didn't bring a gun from out of state.
Hookkid1
I forget why is Cruz the zodiac killer?
UncleMeaty
https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/PPP_Release_FL_22516.pdf
Hookkid1
Sorry, I'm not reading a reply that is 52 pages long. What's the summary?
UncleMeaty
Question 19 of the poll.
Hookkid1
Lol nice.
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
SithElephant
Because of all those people he killed.
Trollero
Maybe he had a difficult childhood
SJohnson23
Because he likes to hear the fear in their voices as he cuts them.
daguq
Have you ever seen them together?
mrbubblesisalie
Omg
getotterhere
PapaSammich
Hey look, Cruz saw your comment n downvoted it lol
graehall
I was swallowing some food when I read that &ended up nearly coughing it out with laughter. Damn you daguq!
Itsonporpoise
Coincidence? I think not.
Nerfgunner
Are you saying Dwayne Johnson is actually the rock?
1CunningStunt
No ones saying that
Gradwin
Judsom
You're blowing my mind, Jerry
BeckysaurusRex
Well now, let's not get carried away there buster
Nerfgunner
My knowledge doesnt end at cereal killers. Where is Honey Smacks?
Cadpig
He looks like the drawn up police artist sketches based on survivor accounts
WaffleBrat
Also I think someone said the timeline adds up agewise
WaffleBrat
Apparently I need to clarify someone said this as a joke. Obviously it's not true
angryquills
It does if he was able to murder someone before he was even born lol
Counterfit
They may have said it, but they weren't right
WaffleBrat
I never said they were
UncommonGuest
I don’t think he was even born when the zodiac was killing, so he probably figured out time travel.
WaffleBrat
I wouldn't put it past him
OutOfStock
I read somewhere he was 4yrs old at the time of the last confirmed zodiac killing, iirc??? In any case its a fun conspiracy theory
YayItsMillerTime
Cjamhampton
You believe a man born in 1970 was able to commit murders in the 60s? One of the key suspects would have been 87 today. If the Zodiac
WaffleBrat
I said I think, I didn't say it was true or that I believed it
Cjamhampton
I'm not trying to be rude, but for you to make the mistake you would have to have pretty much zero knowledge on the topic. Despite this,
Cjamhampton
killer is still alive then they're an elderly man at this point.
butdaditssharkweek
Get outta here with your math and logic!
CosmicCharles
It’s because ted Cruz is the worst
StillChasingFireflies
He really is.
shyasen
Nope, Donsld Trump is the worst killer with over 182,000 and it is believed he is responsible for significantly more deaths.
JaydashCub
/a/LyUZDIb
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BassMonkeyBravo
Could be wrong, but pretty sure that's his daughter.
Judsom
I think I heard someone say that, but either way, yikes on bikes
sqabbit
Cringyist thing I've seen all week
StillChasingFireflies
Yikes, that was disturbing. She clearly didn't want the contact, he persisted, and the adult with her did nothing to intervene :(
sqabbit
Because the adult was the one who actually wanted the kiss and clearly living vicariously through his children
caenmeabaethaeparse
Goddamn you idiots. Watch his interview before the shooting, kid was going to help people. He showed his medical kit! What's wrong with you?
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GetToTheChiappa
BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ATTACKED HIM. https://mobile.twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1299086141329563648 SELF DEFENSE.
GetToTheChiappa
It’s sad to see how many people are judging him based on the sole fact that he brought a rifle. People literally wanted to murder him.
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GetToTheChiappa
He didn’t start shooting until he was attacked. Show me where he punched and shot people.
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jeffpesos
Whose people? The people he shot or his 2A friends and cops only? Fucking LARPers
Seanspeed
You're a dishonest fucker and you know it. And so is every scumbag upvoting this.
Philliphobia
so why the fuck did he have an AR-15 with him? He obviously wanted to put himself in a situation like this, and get to play vigilante cop
TimeFoDat
What is wrong with you? You cannot justify going somewhere with an illegal firearm. I don't care if he had a basket of fucking puppies.
PeculiarBaguette
Honestly, the more I read these comments, the more I think the US is doomed. They are mental.
TimeFoDat
The strong support for this kid exposes the large base of imgurians who aren’t as progressive as people assume. It’s a toxic male subculture
PeculiarBaguette
I’m honestly astonished by the pro-gun argument.
TimeFoDat
The same people who circle jerk anti-LGBT, sexist and racist content under the guise of “equality for all”—but it’s really just bullshit.
stsword
We're smart enough to know that you don't need a rifle to give people medical aid. Sorry that ruins your narrative. Try harder.
GetToTheChiappa
How about this? https://mobile.twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1299086141329563648
BSwann
Apparently you need it when people chase you down for stopping them commit arson though.
schocker28
Protesters don't need to burn and loot businesses but here we are.
ChemicalG
It doesn't, the 2 aren't mutually exclusive, one is for protecting and one is healing
ebury
False, read the facts, the police report, and watch the videos before speaking. You sound ignorant.
Mimsey
Goddamn you idiot, go read his social media. He was a wannabe cop who defended police brutality left and right. He went there to LARP.
schocker28
And the 2 that died were wanna be thugs.
GetToTheChiappa
All 3 that Rittenhouse shot had criminal records. Not by coincidence
ebury
False, read the facts, the police report, and watch the videos before speaking. You sound ignorant.
PeculiarBaguette
He is a 17 yes old kid who murdered two people.
PeculiarBaguette
And don’t you fuckin start with the whole defense bullshit. He brought a rifle to a fuckin protest. You guys are mental.
GetToTheChiappa
https://mobile.twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1299086141329563648
GetToTheChiappa
HOW IS THAT NOT SELF DEFENSE?
shuryou
Yeah he had some bandaids, totally makes up for killing 2 and seriously injuring another.
GetToTheChiappa
Yeah poor babies. https://mobile.twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1299086141329563648
schocker28
Don't start fights you can't finish.
ebury
He did not kill anyone. They commit suicide trying to kill him. Why is your media lying to you and why are you falling for it?
shuryou
Go ahead and tell me what media I watched that lied to me, because all I saw was the footage taken by the people who were there
Philliphobia
why are you so desperate to defend an idealistic murderer? this isn't the wild west, altercations shouldn't end in gunfights
PeculiarBaguette
You guys are mental. Or trolls.
BSwann
Idealistic 17 yo goes to town 20 mins away to clean graffiti, protect businesses and be a medic. Stops attempted arson so is attacked by...
Seanspeed
Just so everybody knows, this guy is pushing propaganda and also defended the cops who shot the black guy in the back SEVEN times.
Seanspeed
He will literally say anything to defend these people cuz he hates leftists.
BSwann
Lol I'm left of centre, but continue to try to discredit me rather than my facts.
TimeFoDat
Idealistically the fucking idiot decided to walk around with an assault rifle he had no legal business brandishing, UNJUSTIFIABLE.
BSwann
Wisconsin Law says irregardless of having done a crime. With no escape left, lethal force is JUSTIFIED if you fear GBH or death.
TimeFoDat
It literally specifies that scenario? I’m incredulous.
Seanspeed
17 year old Trump supporter brainwashed by hatemongering right wing rhetoric went to find his opportunity to kill liberals/black people.
BSwann
And yet shoots no black people or people who didn't chase and assault him...weird. it's almost as if you should leave your bubble.
Seanspeed
I said liberals/black people, you dishonest fuck. He was an agitator and got exactly what he was looking for.
Seanspeed
You also defended cops who shot the black guy in the back seven times. You are a piece of shit.
BSwann
I did I thought he should have surrendered rather than resist arrest.
BSwann
I disagree with the I'm a piece of shit part.
BSwann
The mob, tries to run but gets caught so with no options left shoots the 36 yo arsonist paedo attacking him. Retreats again but is still...
Seanspeed
Y'all are just straight up making up garbage lies. Who is upvoting this? Right wing garbage scumbags taking over this place too?
BSwann
Have you watched the videos? It's 100% accurate, where's the lies?
Seanspeed
I have. And you're pushing a bullshit narrative about it because you're a lying right wing scumbag.
Seanspeed
Holy shit, you were defending the shooting of the black guy shot in the back by cops too. Absolute SCUMBAG
Seanspeed
Jesus you've been making HUNDREDS of posts on this pushing your fucking shameless lies here,smh
shadowex3
Don't forget the mob of people with the child rapist also had a gun and fired at him first, that was when he turned to face them.
Seanspeed
There was no 'child rapist'. Y'all are clearly just dishonest fucks spreading bullshit propaganda to defend a right wing murderer. Pathetic
shadowex3
Joseph Rosenbaum was a class 3 sex offender for raping a child. His sex offender registration was public data while he was alive.
shadowex3
They chased rittenhouse. They attacked rittenhouse. They shot guns at rittenhouse. Only AFTER all of that did he shoot back.
shadowex3
Also even the new york times themselves has publicly admitted that overwhelming video evidence proves Rosenbaum's mob fired guns first.
Seanspeed
You're a lying son of a bitch with this 'pedo arsonist' bullshit, too. Dishonest to the bone, all y'all pathetic right wing assholes.
BSwann
Arsonist is harder to prove it was in a video I watched. But watch donut operators breakdown on YouTube and you'll see.
BSwann
https://www.bustedoffenders.com/arizona/tucson/sex-offenders/joseph-d-rosenbaum/050896
BSwann
Chased doesn't shoot again until he's hit to the ground, and with a skateboard as a man approaches with a gun. This is Self Defence.
TimeFoDat
That's like saying you were robbing someone's house & shot a second robber who pointed a gun at you & somehow want all charged dropped.
BSwann
Can you elaborate I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
TimeFoDat
You can’t claim self defense when the only reason you need to defend yourself in the first place is that you’re committing a crime.
Domehammer
Is evidence someone started shooting at him first too. Because first guy to die wasn't shot in head but the back. So is a unknown 1/2
Seanspeed
There was no evidence anybody shot at him first. Y'all are lying scumbags.
Domehammer
shooter that opened fire on Kyle and killed the pedo accidentally. 2/2
BSwann
I believe he had 5 injuries despite Kyle shooting 4 times but may be misremembering. But yeah head was just a graze.
Skuxlife
If you think comparing Kyle Rittenhouse to a bunch of serial killers makes sense, you are fucking retarded.
Seanspeed
That anybody is upvoting this really proves this community is fucking hopeless and dumb as shit.
crisscross98
They all killed people. That's a comparison.
Skuxlife
They have one thing in common and therefor he is a serial killer. Flawless logic.
GetToTheChiappa
Indeed. Hitler, born in Germany. Flula Borg, born in Germany. Therefore, Flula is basically Adolf Hitler.
Skuxlife
Makes sense
AdmiralNyano
I agree, Kyle was defending himself, they tried to kill him for putting out a trash can fire, kid did what he had to.
Seanspeed
Y'all are scumbags. This community is full of genuine trash scumbags.
Seanspeed
You know that's a fucking lying ass narrative.
AdmiralNyano
Seriously, a complete video storyboard of the events as they transpired I don’t understand how you think it was anything but self defence.
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Malarsto
Dude you are human trash
AdmiralNyano
There is ... video evidence, literally undeniable proof? How can you deny that ?
Malarsto
Undeniable proof of unarmed people getting killed by a little shit
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DubaFilajDIICOT
Ironic
GlennBecksChalkboard
You missed the point. Just because there is a picture of someone doing something selfless or nice doesn't mean they are incapable of evil.
Skuxlife
I don't recall ever disagreeing with that.
Drmantis84
No shit. That's called common sense.
Vlurk
>implying Kyle's actions were evil. Nah I think his point is spot on.
Mmmmm337
It would be different if it were a random picture of him once doing something nice in his life. That was earlier that day.
SquabbleMcSquadson
It's like nuance doesn't exist. The reason the photo is relevant is for ppl who claim he went there looking for trouble, not proof but relev
schocker28
But what it does show is his mindset for being there. If he went there to murder people he wouldn't of been helping clean up.
Allrighty
That is also not true.
GriffinMann41
If he went there to clean up he wouldn't have illegally had a rifle and been kitted out, and he wouldn't have ended up shooting three people
OrbitalSloth
Him having the rifle is likely not illegal. He went there to work, then cleaned up, then hung out with friends.
ABillionDucks
17...
schocker28
What kit did he have other then a med kit and slung rifle? I dont know anyone who would call that kitted out.
Lethous
The issue isn’t even Kyle. It’s how the police reacted to him when he surrendered that gets me. They just told the guy with the AR to move
Lethous
Out of the way and drove right past him without even arresting the shooter they were responding to
Skuxlife
To be fair, they were arriving at a chaotic scene with lots of gunfire happening. First thing they did was offer aid.
BSwann
Lots of people were armed that night, he had his arms in the air, and it's hard to know what's going on when everything is on fire. People..
BSwann
May have been shouting but in an armoured vehicle with sirens and megaphone going not a stretch to think it'd be hard to hear them.
astrangehop
I believe the intent is to much the "he's good because community service" aspect of the first image.
BSwann
I mean if I had to pick between a graffiti cleaning, property defending medic or a paedo arsonist coming to my town I know who I'd pick.
Seanspeed
What the fuck kind of equivalence is that? Why is anybody upvoting this? Are y'all all seriously that fucked up and braindead?
BSwann
Also you don't really need the extra all after y'all.
BSwann
What in particular do you disagree with, its 100% accurate?
ABillionDucks
That's...not the choice. What a dumb equivalency.
BSwann
I mean it's 100% factually accurate, what do you disagree with?
ABillionDucks
That's like saying "what would you rather have: a psychotic 17yo murderer or a peaceful protestor?" "Those are your only options btw"
BSwann
Woops I forgot there's video of the paedo arsonist shouting racial slurs so let's add racist too.
Inkfinger
Comparing a stuljd kid who shot in self defense and immediately surrendered himself to serial killers. Seems reasonable.
Dystopianlocke
They just got to get that daily circle jerk in.
Rayxzerox
does standing around, making a call, trying to flee the scene, and shooting two more people count as "immediately surrendered?"
Inkfinger
Unless there is a different vid? The one I saw, he ran, fell, opened fire then surrendered
Rayxzerox
there are multiple. If you've only seen one, you don't have the full story, and even though, we don't see the actual start to the conflict
Rayxzerox
are referring to the one in the parking lot, where he was standing between two cars?
Rayxzerox
he also never actually surrendered, he left the scene, he had to be extradited cause he returned to his home state.
Inkfinger
I guess they let him go at the time? Cause in the video he's walking up to them with hands up
Rayxzerox
they didn't know he had just killed anyone
Counterfit
If he immediately surrendered himself, why was he arrested in another state?
DropKickHead
You can't force the cops to arrest you. If they tell you to leave, you leave. The cops told him to fuck off, at first
Karrakazul
He attempted to surrender on scene, but the cops he approached turned him away. He went back to his home state and turned himself in there.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Police didn't take him in. They where doing the secure the area crap
ABillionDucks
Secure the area but don't take in the shooter. Amazing work.
Toastfrog
Lol right ...like those cops sound pretty fucken incompetent..if that happened in nz those cops would be stood down I reckon.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
As if they knew anything that's going on when they arrived.
ABillionDucks
Didn't he turn himself in? Didn't he say "I killed someone"?
TimeFoDat
Why does this BS comment have up-votes? We're talking about a kid who traveled to a different state w/an illegal firearm & shot people.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Read updated articles. He was apparently working in that town already. And the shot people details are very important.
Inkfinger
Because I'm chasing facts not feelings?
GriffinMann41
Wel then why did you lie about him surrendering himself
Inkfinger
I didn't lie. I was going by the video. He attempts to surrender but I guess the police let him go at the time. That part I didn't know.
TimeFoDat
The fact is that he was 17 and walking around with an assault rifle. Every action he took happened while committing a crime.
SithElephant
Do note that the 'self defense' many are claiming are defense from acts after he had already killed people.
zriten
No the first death is very well in the "self defense" claim too.
zriten
You should read the prosecutor criminal compliant against Kyle. They've set it up to be a self defense case through and through.
TheGrapistHasArrived
"killed people" - *after he kill the man that was chasing him down.
TimeFoDat
So there's no accountability for people literally looking for a fight, carrying illegal weapons? Oy
BSwann
What part of he ran away until cornered to shoot his attacker sounds like looking for a fight?
TimeFoDat
The fact that he was there with an illegal weapon in the first place. He wasn’t standing in his yard & randomly attacked.
BSwann
For stopping their Arson...
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BSwann
It's what triggered them to attack him so is very relevant. Even though by chasing him as he retreats casualty 1 is the aggressor.
pills92
Difference is, Kyle killed in self defense
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pills92
Yes. He did
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pills92
Pull your safety blanket over you eyes and ignore reality if you wish. But this kid is getting cleared of all charges
RanchoCucamonga
He was open carrying and out after curfew as a 17 year old, punish him for that. Few guys charged him, he defended himself, nothing wrong
MarioBoon
Sure thing, Kyle's mom.
Rayxzerox
"WEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLL-" "Don't do it, Cartman!" "WEEEEELLLLLL-" "I'm warning you!" "Ok ok..." "I'm getting pretty sick of him call my mom a-"
jeffpesos
And like every right wing fucktard these days, I bet he's very happy he had the opportunity to do so!
crisscross98
Nope
pills92
Yup
Mimsey
After taking a rifle across state lines with the intent to designate himself protector of a random car dealership and confront protesters.
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RanchoCucamonga
He should be punished for minor open carrying out after curfew. But it was self defense? He was rushed by people in a volatile situation?1/?
BSwann
Ah yes me putting out the fire you started is confrontation worthy of trying to chase and assault me.
shadowex3
Except he didn't, he'd been volunteering in kenosha all day cleaning graffiti and giving injured people medical care.
RanchoCucamonga
I don't support blue lives matter, but what's wrong with what he did? He was knocked down and people started going at him. Id do what he did
ididthisforthedogs
Exactly.
BilboBagginsBarrelRider
Typical right. Push a false narrative relentlessly and ignore facts. That man took two lives and he is a domestic terrorist. Those are facts
BSwann
Watch donut operators videos on it. He was an idealistic kid attacked for stopping arson, he tried to flee but had no choice but to shoot.
TheGrapistHasArrived
Typical left. Misrepresent the facts and compare a teenager with a rifle to serial killers. He was attacked by a mob. Those are the facts.
schocker28
Wouldn't the rioters and looters be the terrorists? They are the ones terrorizing a community.
BilboBagginsBarrelRider
They're criminals, no excuse. This freak took two lives, shot one more but luckily missed. He s the terrorist
TimeFoDat
If someone attacks you in your neighborhood maybe—very different from SEEKING OUT a fight w/an ILLEGAL firearm in ANOTHER STATE.
JifLover
Except when that couple were holding guns, standing on their property because a mob busted in on their gated community... that was too far.
TimeFoDat
I didn’t mention them, what does that have to do with what I said?
JifLover
How do you not see the correlation? Does it matter if YOU mention him? They were charged for protecting their property not firing a shot.
TimeFoDat
But you’re replying to MY comment which wasn’t related to them so I’m asking why, how is that relevant?
shadowex3
First off he lives 20 minutes away, "AnOtHeR StAtE" is bullshit. Second he didn't bring the rifle, he spent all day volunteering in kenosha.
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shadowex3
We don't know yet, just that he didn't bring it from his home
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
Allegedly
GetToTheChiappa
Allegedly my ass. The attackers all had criminal records. One of them told his friend he regretted not killing him faster.
GetToTheChiappa
https://mobile.twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1299086141329563648
stsword
His lawyer's public defense is that he was defending property. Which isn't self defense, legally or morally.
shadowex3
It's not allegedly, there's a half dozen videos from almost as many angles AND eyewitness accounts all saying the same thing.
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
According to the United States justice system it's alleged until he's either convicted or acquitted. Your interpretation of a limited data
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
set doesn't make it the truth.
obamabeenbowlin
Must not seen the same vids I did.
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
I watched all the videos. It's allegedly self defense until proven in court. You're the same kind of person that asks "what led up to this"
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
On videos of police shootings, or "what happened before they started recording". The same applies. Until all the facts are available it's
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
Allegedly self defense. I don't need you to interpret any videos for me, I've watched them, and it's a close call that will depend on what
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
https://youtu.be/ts43EskooaA
JifLover
There's video. They were chasing him, beating him. He didn't instigate any encounter and was actually there providing medical support.
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JifLover
Yes...he was. There is video of exactly that happening. Not me fucking myself (I hope) but of him providing medical support to protesters.
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YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
For fucks sake people. It's still alleged, if video evidence comes out later showing him being the initial aggressor will your tune change?
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
I'm advocating reserving judgment until all the evidence is available. Just because it looks like self defense in a handful of videos
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
Does not mean it is for sure self defense. This is how wrongful convictions happen all the time.
JifLover
Like if there's video evidence to show he just started firing into a crowd of people just holding signs? Absolutely.
YouSignedTheGodDamnedContract
So stop trying to "correct" people saying it's "allegedly" self defense. Because until it's proven, it's alleged.
suckmyjagon
The cognitive dissonance going on here is incredible. Watch the video.
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
Watched it. Hopefully goes to jail for a long time.
Gaschambergerhan
It's not about reality, it's about confirmation bias. If you're not burning shit and looting (peacefully protesting), you're a racist.
ForbinDallas
Which video? The one where he shot the guy in the head?
suckmyjagon
Yep. Justified.
ForbinDallas
How so? Not when he was being chased down, before that in the car lot.
BunkerJohn
This is why I don't comment on these sorts of posts so often. So much anger and reacting without knowing what happenedd.
fleekazoid
Exactly thanks for saying this
Seanspeed
I did. I saw a cowardly agitator with a gun get his opportunity to kill people like he wanted to.
Seanspeed
FUCK all you folks trying to twist the narrative to something it wasn't. But I'm not surprised. This community hates BLM.
NotAnotherFNG
If that's what he went there to do, there would be a lot more dead people.
suckmyjagon
Kinda sounds like you didn’t watch the video. Tried to pull a sneaky didn’t ya?
Dirgu
Guess who’s about to be downvoted for wrongthink!
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Gababu
He shouldn't have been there armed with that weapon. But the dude that charged at him was a psychotic pedophile, that's who started it all.
Allrighty
This is disgusting slander and you are a perverse ideologue.
Gababu
no he actually was, i just found out about it yesturday. The dude that charged at him was a sexual molester of minors. Joseph Rosenbaum
Allrighty
You've been lied to by propagandists, but at any rate, it's not like Rittenhouse had any idea who he was shooting, so it's moot.
Gababu
he didn't have any idea but the psycho is still a psycho. And while kyle should have 100% not been there, the adults with him are to blame.
AllRicksAreJerrys
So I can threaten people with a gun, and when they fight back kill them in self defense? Good to know.
ABillionDucks
Only if you're white
TheGrapistHasArrived
No, but comparing that teenager to serial killer is stupid. They're not defending his actions.
Mondvogel
he didn't thread anyone. they attacked him and he defended himself
Dystopianlocke
Show him threatening someone any proof that he started and escalated that's not fucking here say.
AllRicksAreJerrys
I'm speculating, same as you since you don't know what happened before the video started. Underage. Cross state lines with gun, not good.
Nerfgunner
Dont speculate. He looks like a POS, cannot confirm. Let's let them do it.
TheReverie
Difference is he is assuming innocence until guilt can be proven. You should try it some time
deruug
Oh shit!
Craizie
His lawyer says the gun is from WI. Can you confirm he traveled across state lines with said gun, or are you speculating again?
BSwann
He prevented arson and was attacked for it. He tried to flee but they chased him, left with no resort he shot his attackers.
Alysium
Theres actually a lot of good footage and many people/outlets have created a comprehensive timeline leading up to the shootings. Hes inno.
BSwann
Check out donut operators breakdown on YouTube there's like 6 or 7 videos from the night.
Dystopianlocke
Your right aim but every new thing I see is while yea he shouldn't of been in that situation, there was no initial intent of malice
Dystopianlocke
If that changes so will my Opinion
EnderWarPet
He was rimming away from them you jackass
SmugandFurry
After he shot someone in the fucking head.
EnderWarPet
Watch the goddamn video
SmugandFurry
The video(s) don't show every second, now do they? Read the reporters goddamn statement. And the charges.
Karrakazul
He was also running from that guy, that's why he got shot.
SmugandFurry
He shot at him first and missed. Also, called his pal to brag about it afterwards, instead of calling the police, who were closer.
removekarling
Watch both videos
fleekazoid
??
shadowex3
Watch all of them AND read the eyewitness testimony from multiple reporters that saw him throughout the day giving medical aid.
Allrighty
This sort of "he's such a good boy, he must be innocent" mindset is EXACTLY what this post is intended to debunk.
shadowex3
What part of "watch the half dozen videos from a half dozen angles and read eyewitness testimony" did you not understand?
Allrighty
You can find half a dozen more and it doesn't change a thing. Give medical aid one moment, shoot someone another, you still shot someone.
ebury
We did. He is innocent.
Bergman777
Well except for carrying the gun right? But definently self defese.
Conser1
Did you see the other guy carrying a gun? Also see the video of protesters carrying rifles while circling a sheriff's APC?
Gtrinker
There's like 9
Taketheshot56
Kid shouldnt have been there, but does that mean its murderer? NO, If you put most people in that same situation, they would have shot.
Seanspeed
The kid's life wasn't in danger. Him bringing a rifle deliberately added unnecessary danger to the situation and why he was chased off.
Taketheshot56
So what about the hundreds of others at the riot who were also armed? Did they add a deliberately unnecessary danger?
amadteaparty81
"life wasn't in danger" Did you watch the video and read the reports? Even in the charges against him they say they were going for his gun..
Allrighty
Being disarmed doesn't put you in danger, it puts others out of danger.
amadteaparty81
Having your rifle stolen by an angry convicted pedo/domestic abuser doesn't put your life in danger? I thought we all agreed that they were
Taketheshot56
It fuckin sucks, the kid may have been stupid but he wasnt a bad guy, now his life is going to be ruined, hopefully he gets a big payout.
Antelino
Fucking yikes. Can’t wait to hear your response to a protestor shooting someone who attacks them. I think I already know tho ;)
RJF2009
I have. A 17-year-old boy, with no law enforcement training, brought a gun (illegally) to menace a group of people he has an animus for, the
Karrakazul
There's video of him mingling with the crowd and offering to help someone who had been struck by rubber bullets, hardly menacing.
ebury
False, read the facts, the police report, and watch the videos before speaking. You sound ignorant.
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Doubledragondickpunch
1. Racism is evil, and any means are justified to stop its spread. 2. Not agreeing is racist. 3. Get clapped by a child on livestream.
Domehammer
The violent mob that showed up to burn, loot, and murder shot first. Plus gun wasn't illegal.
GriffinMann41
A single person shot into the air. And it wasn't even the person he shot. He first the first threatening shots, and killed a man.
BSwann
An idealistic 17yo who had gone through a police cadet academy brought a gun to defend himself while cleaning graffiti, protecting...
ebury
He, and a the others, were asked by the business owner to protect the property.
TheBestSpiderQueen
A radicalized 17yo with a weapon he was not legally allowed to possess killed someone and ran away from the scene leading to confusion.
chrisw328
Which law are you referring to?
BSwann
Killed someone who was chasing him, threw stuff at him then tried to take his gun. A.k.a self defense.
letmesetthisstraight
I thought he called the police and immediately surrendered himself
BSwann
He called a friend, tried to escape from the mob, shot 2 more attackers then walked at police with his hands up but they just drove past.
TheBestSpiderQueen
In the video he does take out his phone, but he runs away from the body leading protesters to think he was attempting to get away. 1/2
BSwann
Businesses and being a medic. After stopping an act of arson he attempted to retreat when threatened, when caught with no options left...
BSwann
He shot his attackers.
RJF2009
lack of training resulted in him being stupid and murdering two people. But let’s live in a world where that is reasonable...
Emanon2
TBF one of the people he killed assaulted him with a skateboard, and the man he shot in the arm was pointing a glock at him...
ebury
False, read the facts, the police report, and watch the videos before speaking. You sound ignorant.
RJF2009
I have. None of those things dispute my comment.
ebury
Then you are either lying or have difficulty with basic comprehension. No worries, you will be proven incorrect in the end anyway.
HerpaDerpaBob
All your posts are from today, and over half are copy/pasted. You sound ignorant.
ebury
You can either do your own research or be proven wrong in a couple days. Your choice.
Emanon2
Not saying he should have been there armed, but he had cause to fear for his life.
ChemicalG
To menace? He went to help, he was also caring a medic kit helping people who had gotten injured before the mess went down and got assaulted
TheBestSpiderQueen
To project force encouraged by the police in doing so, killed someone and ran away from the scene leading to confusion.
ZombiesAreNotOkay
False again. He didn't run away. That night he walked towards the police and they told him to keep moving. Later he turned himself in.
TheBestSpiderQueen
https://youtu.be/EYjG4uequWQ At 1:55 you can see him run away from the people attempting to perform aid. He should have stuck around.
RJF2009
Oh, yes, totally. Carrying a dumbed-down military rifle across your chest is a perfectly sensible way to “help.” Again, let’s live in a
RJF2009
world where we’re ok with 17-year-olds pausing their Call of Duty game to play maladroit policeman for an evening...