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Attaroo
Depends entirely on what they did.
BillStickers1
and what you expect them to do in the future
ZamboniJonez
One of the first lessons I learned from my mum. (In the sense she'd always say "I may forgive but I won't forget." Always cut me deep.>
Sorry, mum. ( ,..) )
ZLOK
Betsbbett? That's a strange "secret" message.
NotVerySympathetic
I'm dating a girl for the third time and we're gonna get married so eat kakapoopoo
iusedtodream
Imo, forgiveness is the gift you give yourself. It allows you to move on with your life. It has very little to do with 'them'.
Completelyrandomsentence1
Only a Sith thinks in absolutes. Seriously though, in real life use your common sense.
MermaidBiologist
You can forgive someone for your own peace's sake. You don't have to let them back into your life.
bunbunsan
Never trust anyone got it!
Wuz314159
SebastianCrab
Yeah, he just didn't want the media to have a sound bite of him saying, "shame on me".
LuncheonsAndDragons
My brother once continued with, "Fool me twice, shame on you. You know I'm easily fooled, how dare you take advantage of me?"
Gardosurro
Fool me three time... You're officially THAT guy, you know the one
therealamh
He just sits at the bar going “yea this suit is a Georgio Armani *ech* my dad knows him” FUCK YOU! I AAAIN’T HAVIN’ THAT SHIT!
SithShodan
Remember when we thought Bush was stupid and incompetent
skellington01
Ahhhh I miss presidents with close-to-normal IQ :)
pareidoliaperson
With a LOT OF LUCK and HOPE you might have another close-to-normal IQ president next year.
YouHaveNoodsAndIHaveAnInbox
30 isnt close to normal, the scale is just a bit skewed right now.
PooPooInSpaghettiEveryoneUpsetti
Bush II was mocked a lot in here. But damn, he's not as stupid as the clusterfuck you're having right now.
ScrapCode
There's always a stupider fish...
Zuegma197777
Like my grandma would say... Por pendejo. (Cuz u dumb fuck) ... As in u let yrself get to that point.
pritolus
If we're gonna simplify it to one sentence I prefer "Give everyone a second chance, but not a third."
PocketVist
This is a real live laugh love type of quote
HaniiPuppy
This is a rubbish Cards Against Humanity card.
RandAIFlagg
You know what's even better? Just stopping considering them at all. Forgiving is dwelling. Move on, and only remember when they come up.
JollyWatson
Yeah I need to slap my past self in the face with a billboard of this about a thousand times
reaper8891
It may be unhealthy but i see it as a debt. They wronged me and for them to get anything other than cold civility, they gotta earn it.
QuackQuackPontiac
Been there, done that, have several souvenirs...
FartingDragon
A scarf made out of the red flags I ignored!
missymischief13
Me too! Waiting til our lockdown is over to get the scars covered with shiny new tattoos
I prefer the search for someone to help me heal but that works too!
I have found an amazing person who has an awesome positive impact on my life ... met him in comments on imgur..
You mentioned that the other night when we commented back and forth, I'm very happy for you and find it inspiring!
As long as I can inspire I’m happy
sillywilliam
Yo...this hit home for me
ArtsyFartsyParrotMama
You and me both
Masterofdisgust
Did the gravity shift 90 degrees or has graphic design completely lost their fucking minds.
afyrwench
Story of my life.
Pretty sure the knife is still in my back
Malloon
If you can forgive them, you can give them the chance to re-earn trust. Re-EARN trust, mind.
EvilCatCreations
If you can never trust them again, doesn't that mean complete forgiveness isn't possible either? Otherwise trust shouldn't be an issue.
wantfastcars
People don't change. They learn to act differently, but I'd argue that behavioral conditioning is literally the opposite of real change.
hwatL4bloopy
Best I can do is indifferent
delahunt
While I understand the sentiment, if you can't trust them you didn't forgive them.
30Jonseredi
Yeah no. These are not dependent on each other.
I don't think you know what forgive means. I can forgive without restoring the trust that was destroyed.
VagrantDust
I hate these kinds of over simplifications. There's so much of life that doesn't fit into this. But whatever, it sounds nice to say, right?
tarataqa
Welcome to Imgur (and all social media too)
XIXIXimena
Yeah, "Be good enough to forgive ...". "Good" is a construct. I'm not interested in either, frankly.
Alright Grandpa Rick.
mudstew
There's a part of my life that fits into this pretty well right now. Although stupid isn't the word I'd use.
Who used the word stupid?
The picture in the post dude
I feel the same way. I don't think you ever really forgave someone if you no longer trust them.
I'm not sure if that's true, either. You can forgive someone, but recognize shortcomings and repeated behavior.
For instance, I can forgive an alcoholic, but know that they have something in their life that needs fixing before I can trust them.
Except this says "never trust again." Not like, eventually and stuff.
Right, but "never again" and "haven't forgiven if you don't trust" are two separate arguments.
TheDudeMurph
Agreed
STGxDante
True, alot of these depending on certain situations aren't accurate. Plenty of ppl have been given multiple chances and fixed themselves.
BaklavaMatatas
Yeah. Did you steal my cookie or fuck my husband? There's a difference there. Cookies are serious business.
hippoatemyzebra
Eh, it’s something I really needed to hear since my breakup with fiancé. I’m letting this one slide.
ColoneISanders
Yup. This is the same kind of stuff repeated by people who were cheated on, so that is understandable, but not applicable to every situation
At least in my mind, to truly "forgive" someone means that you are willing to give them another shot, and that trust can be earned again.
That's what I tried to point out as well. I don't think they're using the words "forgive" and "trust" the way they should be.
nopenononope
The only stories I know where someone only cheated once were when they were only given the chance to.
Well, my family is either going to be a great exception to the rule, or in a lot of pain down the road. Let's find out.
numonster
If both work it through, you may be okay. Imgur is often so black and white when it comes to infidelity but human's aren't straight forward.
Agreed. And this situation was anything but straightforward or simple.
Everyone's situation is different. I'm talking straight up affairs or extramarital relationships, not separation or something similar.
Yeah, I know. And I live in a soap opera, except no one has gotten amnesia yet.
Oh shit, who got the evil twin?
No twin, but two brothers married two sisters so... I think that counts.
getmesomepizza1
Eh, this is horse shit "advice". If you're not a bit more understanding, trusting, or forgiving than that, you're gonna run out of people 2
2 to even be around. I get the sentiment, but it's definitely a stupid quote that gets it wrong.
hunted444
Rather be on my own than around someone I can't trust.
Agreed. It's just one of those oversimplified, feel good sayings that fly around on the internet.
bohemezarathustra
Hm. Sounds like you would't give a second chance. If so I diagree. Trusting sb again after they 'disappointed' you is a value imo.
Theory89
Yeah i think everyone makes mistakes. Why is the most important thing if it isn't something truly despicable.
I see it exactly that way.
Bigboxajunk
Could you loan me $20? I promise I'll pay you back on Friday.
dumbarooooooo
why only ask for $20, ask more
Sure, send IBAN.
Not everything deserves a second chance. Wrecked my car? I'm not trusting you to drive it again.
For me that would depend on the person and how the car got wrecked.
Context is king, naturally, but the number of people who might get a second chance are few enough that they're the exception, not the rule.
TheCacklingJackal
That all depends on the level of betrayal now doesn't it? If someone killed my pets for example I would not be calling them to pet sit again
I mean sure. But if a good friend of mine killed my dog in an accident, I'd surely forgive him. I'd value the friendship.
Forgive, not forget. I was thinking more along the lines of intentionally killing them. It's just hyperbole to prove a point on 2nd chances.
quad0321
I mean in that case I probably wouldn't forgive them either
Well. I would.
MackinawPeach
What if it’s been a few years, they went to not-killing-pets rehab and are now certified pet sitters with glowing reviews from friends?
No
Fair enough.
That's a valid argument; personally, probably still no. I'd forgive, not forget. They aren't the only pet sitter in town; why risk it?
Damn! Thought for sure the NKP rehab would seal the deal.
Attaroo
Depends entirely on what they did.
BillStickers1
and what you expect them to do in the future
ZamboniJonez
One of the first lessons I learned from my mum. (In the sense she'd always say "I may forgive but I won't forget." Always cut me deep.>
ZamboniJonez
Sorry, mum. ( ,..) )
ZLOK
Betsbbett? That's a strange "secret" message.
NotVerySympathetic
I'm dating a girl for the third time and we're gonna get married so eat kakapoopoo
iusedtodream
Imo, forgiveness is the gift you give yourself. It allows you to move on with your life. It has very little to do with 'them'.
Completelyrandomsentence1
Only a Sith thinks in absolutes. Seriously though, in real life use your common sense.
MermaidBiologist
You can forgive someone for your own peace's sake. You don't have to let them back into your life.
bunbunsan
Never trust anyone got it!
Wuz314159
SebastianCrab
Yeah, he just didn't want the media to have a sound bite of him saying, "shame on me".
LuncheonsAndDragons
My brother once continued with, "Fool me twice, shame on you. You know I'm easily fooled, how dare you take advantage of me?"
Gardosurro
Fool me three time... You're officially THAT guy, you know the one
therealamh
He just sits at the bar going “yea this suit is a Georgio Armani *ech* my dad knows him” FUCK YOU! I AAAIN’T HAVIN’ THAT SHIT!
SithShodan
Remember when we thought Bush was stupid and incompetent
skellington01
Ahhhh I miss presidents with close-to-normal IQ :)
pareidoliaperson
With a LOT OF LUCK and HOPE you might have another close-to-normal IQ president next year.
YouHaveNoodsAndIHaveAnInbox
30 isnt close to normal, the scale is just a bit skewed right now.
PooPooInSpaghettiEveryoneUpsetti
Bush II was mocked a lot in here. But damn, he's not as stupid as the clusterfuck you're having right now.
ScrapCode
There's always a stupider fish...
Zuegma197777
Like my grandma would say... Por pendejo. (Cuz u dumb fuck) ... As in u let yrself get to that point.
pritolus
If we're gonna simplify it to one sentence I prefer "Give everyone a second chance, but not a third."
PocketVist
This is a real live laugh love type of quote
HaniiPuppy
This is a rubbish Cards Against Humanity card.
RandAIFlagg
You know what's even better? Just stopping considering them at all. Forgiving is dwelling. Move on, and only remember when they come up.
JollyWatson
Yeah I need to slap my past self in the face with a billboard of this about a thousand times
reaper8891
It may be unhealthy but i see it as a debt. They wronged me and for them to get anything other than cold civility, they gotta earn it.
QuackQuackPontiac
Been there, done that, have several souvenirs...
FartingDragon
A scarf made out of the red flags I ignored!
missymischief13
Me too! Waiting til our lockdown is over to get the scars covered with shiny new tattoos
QuackQuackPontiac
I prefer the search for someone to help me heal but that works too!
missymischief13
I have found an amazing person who has an awesome positive impact on my life ... met him in comments on imgur..
QuackQuackPontiac
You mentioned that the other night when we commented back and forth, I'm very happy for you and find it inspiring!
missymischief13
As long as I can inspire I’m happy
sillywilliam
Yo...this hit home for me
ArtsyFartsyParrotMama
You and me both
Masterofdisgust
Did the gravity shift 90 degrees or has graphic design completely lost their fucking minds.
afyrwench
Story of my life.
afyrwench
Pretty sure the knife is still in my back
Malloon
If you can forgive them, you can give them the chance to re-earn trust. Re-EARN trust, mind.
EvilCatCreations
If you can never trust them again, doesn't that mean complete forgiveness isn't possible either? Otherwise trust shouldn't be an issue.
wantfastcars
People don't change. They learn to act differently, but I'd argue that behavioral conditioning is literally the opposite of real change.
hwatL4bloopy
Best I can do is indifferent
delahunt
While I understand the sentiment, if you can't trust them you didn't forgive them.
30Jonseredi
Yeah no. These are not dependent on each other.
RandAIFlagg
I don't think you know what forgive means. I can forgive without restoring the trust that was destroyed.
VagrantDust
I hate these kinds of over simplifications. There's so much of life that doesn't fit into this. But whatever, it sounds nice to say, right?
tarataqa
Welcome to Imgur (and all social media too)
XIXIXimena
Yeah, "Be good enough to forgive ...". "Good" is a construct. I'm not interested in either, frankly.
VagrantDust
Alright Grandpa Rick.
mudstew
There's a part of my life that fits into this pretty well right now. Although stupid isn't the word I'd use.
VagrantDust
Who used the word stupid?
mudstew
The picture in the post dude
EvilCatCreations
I feel the same way. I don't think you ever really forgave someone if you no longer trust them.
VagrantDust
I'm not sure if that's true, either. You can forgive someone, but recognize shortcomings and repeated behavior.
VagrantDust
For instance, I can forgive an alcoholic, but know that they have something in their life that needs fixing before I can trust them.
EvilCatCreations
Except this says "never trust again." Not like, eventually and stuff.
VagrantDust
Right, but "never again" and "haven't forgiven if you don't trust" are two separate arguments.
TheDudeMurph
Agreed
STGxDante
True, alot of these depending on certain situations aren't accurate. Plenty of ppl have been given multiple chances and fixed themselves.
BaklavaMatatas
Yeah. Did you steal my cookie or fuck my husband? There's a difference there. Cookies are serious business.
hippoatemyzebra
Eh, it’s something I really needed to hear since my breakup with fiancé. I’m letting this one slide.
ColoneISanders
Yup. This is the same kind of stuff repeated by people who were cheated on, so that is understandable, but not applicable to every situation
ColoneISanders
At least in my mind, to truly "forgive" someone means that you are willing to give them another shot, and that trust can be earned again.
EvilCatCreations
That's what I tried to point out as well. I don't think they're using the words "forgive" and "trust" the way they should be.
nopenononope
The only stories I know where someone only cheated once were when they were only given the chance to.
VagrantDust
Well, my family is either going to be a great exception to the rule, or in a lot of pain down the road. Let's find out.
numonster
If both work it through, you may be okay. Imgur is often so black and white when it comes to infidelity but human's aren't straight forward.
VagrantDust
Agreed. And this situation was anything but straightforward or simple.
nopenononope
Everyone's situation is different. I'm talking straight up affairs or extramarital relationships, not separation or something similar.
VagrantDust
Yeah, I know. And I live in a soap opera, except no one has gotten amnesia yet.
nopenononope
Oh shit, who got the evil twin?
VagrantDust
No twin, but two brothers married two sisters so... I think that counts.
getmesomepizza1
Eh, this is horse shit "advice". If you're not a bit more understanding, trusting, or forgiving than that, you're gonna run out of people 2
getmesomepizza1
2 to even be around. I get the sentiment, but it's definitely a stupid quote that gets it wrong.
hunted444
Rather be on my own than around someone I can't trust.
VagrantDust
Agreed. It's just one of those oversimplified, feel good sayings that fly around on the internet.
bohemezarathustra
Hm. Sounds like you would't give a second chance. If so I diagree. Trusting sb again after they 'disappointed' you is a value imo.
Theory89
Yeah i think everyone makes mistakes. Why is the most important thing if it isn't something truly despicable.
bohemezarathustra
I see it exactly that way.
Bigboxajunk
Could you loan me $20? I promise I'll pay you back on Friday.
dumbarooooooo
why only ask for $20, ask more
bohemezarathustra
Sure, send IBAN.
RandAIFlagg
Not everything deserves a second chance. Wrecked my car? I'm not trusting you to drive it again.
bohemezarathustra
For me that would depend on the person and how the car got wrecked.
RandAIFlagg
Context is king, naturally, but the number of people who might get a second chance are few enough that they're the exception, not the rule.
TheCacklingJackal
That all depends on the level of betrayal now doesn't it? If someone killed my pets for example I would not be calling them to pet sit again
bohemezarathustra
I mean sure. But if a good friend of mine killed my dog in an accident, I'd surely forgive him. I'd value the friendship.
TheCacklingJackal
Forgive, not forget. I was thinking more along the lines of intentionally killing them. It's just hyperbole to prove a point on 2nd chances.
quad0321
I mean in that case I probably wouldn't forgive them either
bohemezarathustra
Well. I would.
MackinawPeach
What if it’s been a few years, they went to not-killing-pets rehab and are now certified pet sitters with glowing reviews from friends?
EvilCatCreations
No
MackinawPeach
Fair enough.
TheCacklingJackal
That's a valid argument; personally, probably still no. I'd forgive, not forget. They aren't the only pet sitter in town; why risk it?
MackinawPeach
Damn! Thought for sure the NKP rehab would seal the deal.