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Owlsdude
The opposing middle linebacker didn't have an earpiece either, cancels out.
itslikedejavualloveragain
Montana didn't call his own plays. Bill Walsh was one of the early innovators of scripted plays, which is now the norm, to start games.
shimmernshine
And Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Roger Craig.
AMEN!
XoxSmotpokerxoX
1st NO ONE doesn't think Joe isn't one of the best. 2nd BULLSHIT on them doing it clean. Players paid under the table, silicon on jersey's
If you want someone with a lot of rings that did it clean, look for Bart Starr
PerfectlySymmetricalViolence
This comes off more as a salty Brady-hate post than a praise for Joe. Any fan too stubborn to see multiple sides of the debate is ignorant
Edutittam
Radio doesn't make players suddenly good it's just a more efficient method of delivering plays.
BoneShirt
The greatest tackler since Bobby Boucher!
Tiiimmmaayy
Joe Montana was a Quarterback, you idiot
chumster
whoosh
"I called my own plays" is totally not true. He had the clear to audible but the coach called the plays.
TsubakiTragic
I've heard that QB's hit the receiver on the numbers for a pass. Montana hit between the 8 and the 0. This Aussie boy loves 49ers and Joe.
justbelowme
80. Jerry rice. The best receiver to ever play the game.
StormtrooperTHX1138
You owe me 50 bucks!
JediWithin
You said it was gonna be a touchdown pass you crazy asshole
jeips
i said Joe Mantegna
Bourbonkers
No salary cap or free agency, surrounded by hall of famers. He should have won more. Still, no fan would deny his greatness.
PUNKem733
Wait no one considers him ONE of the greats?! Whaaaa....
lordski
Who would not consider Joe Montana one of the greatest players of all time?
Milomaine
Joe Montana and Barry Sanders are my two all-time faves.
Man, I thought you said Bernie Sanders at first. I had a BILLION questions. Then I saw the Barry and was disappointed...
Ras668
I don't think anyone doesn't consider Joe as in of the all time greats.
EnvelopingDarkness
Wait... Who are these ppl that don't believe hes ONE of the best ever. Cuz they deff aren't real football fans
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Right? I don't think a single person would have him outside the top 3...and most have him as #1
Agreed
domestomp
On the note of no protection. When he was on his way out and his knee was fucked! ppl gave him respect and didn't try to hurt him.
jammasterdjinn
Who doesn't consider him one of the greatest? He is arguably THE greatest! Go Niners
koolkai123
Tbh at this point it's hard to argue him over brady, as much as I hate to say.
I think Brady is definitely great, but he emulates Montana in every way. They'll both end up legends; I think Montana is still the greater.
MATTHEWH5262
Pretty much everyone considers him to be one of the greatest of all time. However if you had LB's and CBs as big and as fast as they are now
dirkpitts
Give him contemporary O linemen and the rules of today and he would eat their lunch, besides the defense in that era were no slouches.
bertmayhem
Jerry Rice
Jerry will always be the best player of all time no question
Meh, great, but not the best player
youhavetocallmeknighthawk
Openly admitting to using stickem
NickBlight
So he didn't break rules before there were rules to break? Somehow not impressed
shdwklown
He didn't, but his teammates did.
QueefyMcKuntfart
I said Joe Montegna
DONYEUE
Shiite why not then intentions thuarels it's commence.
SpannerInTheWorx
TheReal1James
CptRobotNinja
You killed my father. Prepare to die
clairesedai
That's Mandy Patinkin.
TheVelureFog
Best tackler I've seen since Joe Montana!
OverthoughtUnderedited
That episode of SNL was one of the biggest letdowns
HotSpoon
“I’ll just be up in my room masterbating”
Thetingwitdating
Too high?
o2deliveryguy45
Waterboy
dfsmitty0711
I got that reference.
I'm not low.
LuukeSkywalker
Yea but want there not a salary cap or unrestricted free agency when he played? That certainly helped prop up his team and kept others down.
He took money under the table
Noughmad
But did he score four touchdowns in a single game?
alyx680
No, it was 6 in a single game in 1990...
WorfsPruneJuice
Damn straight! Al Bundy will always be king.
whydouwanttoknow
Literally EVERYONE considers Joe Montana one of the greatest QB's of all time.
ChibiYui
I have literally never considered Joe Montana before.
Touché
ImBiggusDickus2
life time 49rs fan here, even when they suck. which has been for a while now but whatever.
AstartesLibrarius
Redskins fan currently trapped in the Bay Area. Went with my cousin, also a 49ers fan, to the season opener of the last season in the 1/2
Stick. Had a blast, watched Anquan Boldin set a record, got the Souvenir Cup that is my Sunday Funday cup. Use it every gameday. 2/2
ughimbored
Dude jimmy g is turning y’all around
Shenaniganz80
As a Raiders fan I repsect Joe, but he was a Chief too so I dont like him
TheTurtleBard
As a Chiefs fan, I remember also getting Marcus Allen at the same time from the Raiders. And we still couldn't get the Superbowl. Naturally.
RaiderNation95209
I feel you, but his epic asswhipping of the Broncos in Super Bowl XXIV is one of my fave things ever. 55-10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MYNAMEISBRETT
Silver and black! Just win baby!!!
DoNotTryThisAtHome
https://gph.is/1EtFqdj That suddenly, magically discovered "Tuck rule" was absurd and ultimately cost the Raiders a couple of Super Bowls.
Yeah it did worst thing is I'm a raiders fan that lives in New England, ground zero for the dirty dynasty
I can’t even imagine wearing my Charles Woodson jersey out, walking through Boston. I’d never hear the end of it!
I do it with pride, and I call Eli Manning the champion of justice to piss everyone I know off. Pisses them off so I love it
Muffdiver9
Deflategate is a really stupid thing to cite, the Patriots won by a landslide in that game, the ball had nothing to do with it.
Funny how the stats show fumbles going down after Brady's ball rule was adapted and abused
"We cheated but it didn't matter a bunch so it's cool"
bbirbb
The Wells report and Supreme Court both said there was no evidence so...
Seanspeed
And what about the other QB's who came out and said they altered ball pressures outside 'legal bounds', too? Like Aaron Rodgers?
Plus shit, the lower pressure is entirely explained by the cold temps.
Shh, don't bring facts in to this argument. The haters need this.
BenSnow97
The Patriots is pretty much the "evil empire" of the NFL. As a European it's really easy to root for them but I see why pretty much anyone >
who chooses (or at one point chose) a team based on their location in the US is salty as hell after the last 10-15 years. And salt leads >
to accusations and has an inherent bias, sometimes that's visible even on the referees.
I'm glad this is upvoted. Usually this actually rational stance is quite unpopular among casual fans. Shit was nothing.
I'm not even a pats fan, I just get tired of the constant whining and hating on them. People look for excuses to justify it.
lenonymes
thrillhaus
Not taking anything away from Montana, but Brady is the best of all time. The Super Bowl when they came back against Atlanta was epic.
There is not a single way other than rings that Brady is better than Rodgers, and if rings are what matters, Starr is better than Brady
IVIornin
That was more on the bad play calling of Atlanta. Third down and they go for a drop back pass to get sacked out of FG range to seal it???
Pandameter
Yeah and Seatlle should have ran it two years before. But 25 points isn't a bad call here and there, it is an unreal belief in "never out"
and lots of refs calling in favor for the Pats
skullified
I get that he’s 4/4, so does Tom get penalized for going to 8 Super Bowls but losing 3? Would it have been better to just lose beforehand?
MrTacoPower
Exactly. Montana eliminated in playoffs earlier than Brady.
Radicalsun
Montana was in as many NFC Championship games as Brady has been in a row. 7. I guess 4-3 in NFC Championship games doesn't count.
whattheheckismyline
The Lebron v Jordan argument
fascizio
Except unlike Lebron, who by all accounts is a stand-up guy, Brady cheats to win just like the rest of his organization.
Maybe you should learn to read instead of just being force fed a narrative.
The Patriots organization has literally been disciplined by the NFL for cheating multiple times. It's not a "narrative." It's fact.
It is a narrative. The first was an equipment violation and the 2nd was due to the NFL not understanding science. You do you though.
I think one of his championships was earned honestly, maybe.
PutItInNeutral
Tom gets penalized for being a system quarterback in a cheating system. Wanna know what his career would look like elsewhere? Matt Cassel.
IncrediblySTIFF
Lol what the hell you smoking. That's like saying Jordan was a product of Phil Jackson
To your first question: the strain is called "Mr Good Chem. It's a sativa with a 21.05% THC content. Nice and mellow.
Such a low thc
No it's not. Jordan and Jackson never got caught cheating.
Because the Patriots wasn't shit before the Brady and Belichick era?
But the niners were arguably better when Joe left so that makes no sense.
That's what I'm saying, my sarcasm game is just weak. Brady has five rings, sure, but that's all the Super Bowl wins the Pats ever had. >
They weren't that great of a team, and even nowadays they aren't as good, for example their defense sucked hard the entire last season.
They were not necessarily terrible either. The Bledsoe years were decent. The Grogan/Eason era wasn't absolutely atrocious.
Caught cheating twice, and easy road in the AFC
Even the coaches that move on get caught cheating. McDaniels got his ass fired from the Broncos for taping opponent's practice sessions.
Broncos are another team with a * next to their Superbowl trophy for cap cheating
True
>sitting in wrong seat. Cheating. >Wells report and Supreme Court say no evidence. Cheating. Yeah, ok bud.
Lmao you mean the judge that ]artied with the owner the same weekend
LMAO you mean the Wells report, paid for by the NFL to condemn Brady, was basically a big shoulder shrug and "we don't know shit."
Only, that's not really what happend. Make it up as you go though to fit your narrative. NFC has sent two sub 500 teams to the playoffs.
jeffasaurusrex
1/? Matt Cassel played for one of the best Patriots rosters. People forget about the seasons Tom carried the team. In 2011 he brought the
31st ranked defense to the Super Bowl. You also need to think about the years the Pats won it all. When did Brady have an all star receiver?
He doesn't need all star recievers when he has system receivers in a cheating system.
Ok.. so tell me. Do you honestly think that spygate or deflategate dictated their success?
Moss, Welker, Gronk, Cooks, A TE who shall not be named, Edelman. Brady's issue is that, other than Gronk, the Pats haven't kept that talent
Bryceromo9
Who the hell doesn't consider Montana one of the greatest of all time? No one that knows anything about football.
Juicyjay
Literally everyone in New England...
New Englander here. Montana was phenomenal...one of the best ever.
HalfIagoHalfFuManchuAllBastard
Me, but I'm not American so don't know the sport well.
justGeorge
Yes, one of the best.
PatRudy
GOAT
JarnoF
I don't know anything about football, but seems he doesn't either. His equipment tells me he plays more likely that American handball game.
IAmTheBadW01f
Remember, handball is a distinct sport. This is handegg.
scarscantstopme
Even people who don't know anything about football know who he is
Welkin
Nope, never heard of him
Bigcurly2000
Yeah I'm a Brit who has no interest or ever even seen a game on TV, and I'm pretty sure I've at least heard his name!
huckitchuckit
Zero interceptions thrown in 4 superbowls. Thats amazing
I believe Bart Starr had less in the playoffs
StephenDaniels
This isn't about Montanna's greatness(it was off the scale) this is about insulting Brady. Its author is likely a jest fan.
ChrisRyan36
That’s some next level sports narcissism right there
ffips
J-E-T-S! SUCK SUCK SUCK
Konpiok1
Haha jets and jest are interchangeable.
ImHereSoIWontGetFined
Poor guy
rayhatesu
to be fair, it's easier to find someone that's willing to tear Brady a new one for the shit he and the Pats have done than to find a fan.
Right, 5 SB Championships, tons of wins and records. Haters going to just listen to ESPN and not look into what actually happened. whatevs.
But only 1 legitimate championship
Owlsdude
The opposing middle linebacker didn't have an earpiece either, cancels out.
itslikedejavualloveragain
Montana didn't call his own plays. Bill Walsh was one of the early innovators of scripted plays, which is now the norm, to start games.
shimmernshine
And Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, Roger Craig.
GoldenBoy45
AMEN!
XoxSmotpokerxoX
1st NO ONE doesn't think Joe isn't one of the best. 2nd BULLSHIT on them doing it clean. Players paid under the table, silicon on jersey's
XoxSmotpokerxoX
If you want someone with a lot of rings that did it clean, look for Bart Starr
PerfectlySymmetricalViolence
This comes off more as a salty Brady-hate post than a praise for Joe. Any fan too stubborn to see multiple sides of the debate is ignorant
Edutittam
Radio doesn't make players suddenly good it's just a more efficient method of delivering plays.
BoneShirt
The greatest tackler since Bobby Boucher!
Tiiimmmaayy
Joe Montana was a Quarterback, you idiot
chumster
whoosh
Edutittam
"I called my own plays" is totally not true. He had the clear to audible but the coach called the plays.
TsubakiTragic
I've heard that QB's hit the receiver on the numbers for a pass. Montana hit between the 8 and the 0. This Aussie boy loves 49ers and Joe.
justbelowme
80. Jerry rice. The best receiver to ever play the game.
StormtrooperTHX1138
You owe me 50 bucks!
JediWithin
You said it was gonna be a touchdown pass you crazy asshole
jeips
i said Joe Mantegna
Bourbonkers
No salary cap or free agency, surrounded by hall of famers. He should have won more. Still, no fan would deny his greatness.
PUNKem733
Wait no one considers him ONE of the greats?! Whaaaa....
lordski
Who would not consider Joe Montana one of the greatest players of all time?
Milomaine
Joe Montana and Barry Sanders are my two all-time faves.
lordski
Man, I thought you said Bernie Sanders at first. I had a BILLION questions. Then I saw the Barry and was disappointed...
Ras668
I don't think anyone doesn't consider Joe as in of the all time greats.
EnvelopingDarkness
Wait... Who are these ppl that don't believe hes ONE of the best ever. Cuz they deff aren't real football fans
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Right? I don't think a single person would have him outside the top 3...and most have him as #1
EnvelopingDarkness
Agreed
domestomp
On the note of no protection. When he was on his way out and his knee was fucked! ppl gave him respect and didn't try to hurt him.
jammasterdjinn
Who doesn't consider him one of the greatest? He is arguably THE greatest! Go Niners
koolkai123
Tbh at this point it's hard to argue him over brady, as much as I hate to say.
jammasterdjinn
I think Brady is definitely great, but he emulates Montana in every way. They'll both end up legends; I think Montana is still the greater.
MATTHEWH5262
Pretty much everyone considers him to be one of the greatest of all time. However if you had LB's and CBs as big and as fast as they are now
dirkpitts
Give him contemporary O linemen and the rules of today and he would eat their lunch, besides the defense in that era were no slouches.
bertmayhem
Jerry Rice
koolkai123
Jerry will always be the best player of all time no question
XoxSmotpokerxoX
Meh, great, but not the best player
youhavetocallmeknighthawk
Openly admitting to using stickem
NickBlight
So he didn't break rules before there were rules to break? Somehow not impressed
shdwklown
He didn't, but his teammates did.
QueefyMcKuntfart
I said Joe Montegna
DONYEUE
Shiite why not then intentions thuarels it's commence.
SpannerInTheWorx
Joe Montana was a Quarterback, you idiot
TheReal1James
You owe me 50 bucks!
CptRobotNinja
You killed my father. Prepare to die
clairesedai
That's Mandy Patinkin.
TheVelureFog
Best tackler I've seen since Joe Montana!
OverthoughtUnderedited
That episode of SNL was one of the biggest letdowns
HotSpoon
“I’ll just be up in my room masterbating”
Thetingwitdating
Too high?
o2deliveryguy45
Waterboy
dfsmitty0711
I got that reference.
QueefyMcKuntfart
I'm not low.
LuukeSkywalker
Yea but want there not a salary cap or unrestricted free agency when he played? That certainly helped prop up his team and kept others down.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
He took money under the table
Noughmad
But did he score four touchdowns in a single game?
alyx680
No, it was 6 in a single game in 1990...
WorfsPruneJuice
Damn straight! Al Bundy will always be king.
whydouwanttoknow
Literally EVERYONE considers Joe Montana one of the greatest QB's of all time.
ChibiYui
I have literally never considered Joe Montana before.
whydouwanttoknow
Touché
ImBiggusDickus2
life time 49rs fan here, even when they suck. which has been for a while now but whatever.
AstartesLibrarius
Redskins fan currently trapped in the Bay Area. Went with my cousin, also a 49ers fan, to the season opener of the last season in the 1/2
AstartesLibrarius
Stick. Had a blast, watched Anquan Boldin set a record, got the Souvenir Cup that is my Sunday Funday cup. Use it every gameday. 2/2
ughimbored
Dude jimmy g is turning y’all around
Shenaniganz80
As a Raiders fan I repsect Joe, but he was a Chief too so I dont like him
TheTurtleBard
As a Chiefs fan, I remember also getting Marcus Allen at the same time from the Raiders. And we still couldn't get the Superbowl. Naturally.
RaiderNation95209
I feel you, but his epic asswhipping of the Broncos in Super Bowl XXIV is one of my fave things ever. 55-10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MYNAMEISBRETT
Silver and black! Just win baby!!!
DoNotTryThisAtHome
https://gph.is/1EtFqdj That suddenly, magically discovered "Tuck rule" was absurd and ultimately cost the Raiders a couple of Super Bowls.
Shenaniganz80
Yeah it did worst thing is I'm a raiders fan that lives in New England, ground zero for the dirty dynasty
DoNotTryThisAtHome
I can’t even imagine wearing my Charles Woodson jersey out, walking through Boston. I’d never hear the end of it!
Shenaniganz80
I do it with pride, and I call Eli Manning the champion of justice to piss everyone I know off. Pisses them off so I love it
Muffdiver9
Deflategate is a really stupid thing to cite, the Patriots won by a landslide in that game, the ball had nothing to do with it.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
Funny how the stats show fumbles going down after Brady's ball rule was adapted and abused
Edutittam
"We cheated but it didn't matter a bunch so it's cool"
bbirbb
The Wells report and Supreme Court both said there was no evidence so...
Seanspeed
And what about the other QB's who came out and said they altered ball pressures outside 'legal bounds', too? Like Aaron Rodgers?
Seanspeed
Plus shit, the lower pressure is entirely explained by the cold temps.
shdwklown
Shh, don't bring facts in to this argument. The haters need this.
BenSnow97
The Patriots is pretty much the "evil empire" of the NFL. As a European it's really easy to root for them but I see why pretty much anyone >
BenSnow97
who chooses (or at one point chose) a team based on their location in the US is salty as hell after the last 10-15 years. And salt leads >
BenSnow97
to accusations and has an inherent bias, sometimes that's visible even on the referees.
Seanspeed
I'm glad this is upvoted. Usually this actually rational stance is quite unpopular among casual fans. Shit was nothing.
Muffdiver9
I'm not even a pats fan, I just get tired of the constant whining and hating on them. People look for excuses to justify it.
lenonymes
thrillhaus
Not taking anything away from Montana, but Brady is the best of all time. The Super Bowl when they came back against Atlanta was epic.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
There is not a single way other than rings that Brady is better than Rodgers, and if rings are what matters, Starr is better than Brady
IVIornin
That was more on the bad play calling of Atlanta. Third down and they go for a drop back pass to get sacked out of FG range to seal it???
Pandameter
Yeah and Seatlle should have ran it two years before. But 25 points isn't a bad call here and there, it is an unreal belief in "never out"
IVIornin
and lots of refs calling in favor for the Pats
skullified
I get that he’s 4/4, so does Tom get penalized for going to 8 Super Bowls but losing 3? Would it have been better to just lose beforehand?
MrTacoPower
Exactly. Montana eliminated in playoffs earlier than Brady.
Radicalsun
Montana was in as many NFC Championship games as Brady has been in a row. 7. I guess 4-3 in NFC Championship games doesn't count.
whattheheckismyline
The Lebron v Jordan argument
fascizio
Except unlike Lebron, who by all accounts is a stand-up guy, Brady cheats to win just like the rest of his organization.
shdwklown
Maybe you should learn to read instead of just being force fed a narrative.
fascizio
The Patriots organization has literally been disciplined by the NFL for cheating multiple times. It's not a "narrative." It's fact.
shdwklown
It is a narrative. The first was an equipment violation and the 2nd was due to the NFL not understanding science. You do you though.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
I think one of his championships was earned honestly, maybe.
PutItInNeutral
Tom gets penalized for being a system quarterback in a cheating system. Wanna know what his career would look like elsewhere? Matt Cassel.
IncrediblySTIFF
Lol what the hell you smoking. That's like saying Jordan was a product of Phil Jackson
PutItInNeutral
To your first question: the strain is called "Mr Good Chem. It's a sativa with a 21.05% THC content. Nice and mellow.
IncrediblySTIFF
Such a low thc
PutItInNeutral
No it's not. Jordan and Jackson never got caught cheating.
BenSnow97
Because the Patriots wasn't shit before the Brady and Belichick era?
koolkai123
But the niners were arguably better when Joe left so that makes no sense.
BenSnow97
That's what I'm saying, my sarcasm game is just weak. Brady has five rings, sure, but that's all the Super Bowl wins the Pats ever had. >
BenSnow97
They weren't that great of a team, and even nowadays they aren't as good, for example their defense sucked hard the entire last season.
shdwklown
They were not necessarily terrible either. The Bledsoe years were decent. The Grogan/Eason era wasn't absolutely atrocious.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
Caught cheating twice, and easy road in the AFC
PutItInNeutral
Even the coaches that move on get caught cheating. McDaniels got his ass fired from the Broncos for taping opponent's practice sessions.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
Broncos are another team with a * next to their Superbowl trophy for cap cheating
PutItInNeutral
True
bbirbb
>sitting in wrong seat. Cheating. >Wells report and Supreme Court say no evidence. Cheating. Yeah, ok bud.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
Lmao you mean the judge that ]artied with the owner the same weekend
bbirbb
LMAO you mean the Wells report, paid for by the NFL to condemn Brady, was basically a big shoulder shrug and "we don't know shit."
shdwklown
Only, that's not really what happend. Make it up as you go though to fit your narrative. NFC has sent two sub 500 teams to the playoffs.
jeffasaurusrex
1/? Matt Cassel played for one of the best Patriots rosters. People forget about the seasons Tom carried the team. In 2011 he brought the
jeffasaurusrex
31st ranked defense to the Super Bowl. You also need to think about the years the Pats won it all. When did Brady have an all star receiver?
PutItInNeutral
He doesn't need all star recievers when he has system receivers in a cheating system.
jeffasaurusrex
Ok.. so tell me. Do you honestly think that spygate or deflategate dictated their success?
shdwklown
Moss, Welker, Gronk, Cooks, A TE who shall not be named, Edelman. Brady's issue is that, other than Gronk, the Pats haven't kept that talent
Bryceromo9
Who the hell doesn't consider Montana one of the greatest of all time? No one that knows anything about football.
Juicyjay
Literally everyone in New England...
Bourbonkers
New Englander here. Montana was phenomenal...one of the best ever.
HalfIagoHalfFuManchuAllBastard
Me, but I'm not American so don't know the sport well.
justGeorge
Yes, one of the best.
PatRudy
GOAT
JarnoF
I don't know anything about football, but seems he doesn't either. His equipment tells me he plays more likely that American handball game.
IAmTheBadW01f
Remember, handball is a distinct sport. This is handegg.
scarscantstopme
Even people who don't know anything about football know who he is
Welkin
Nope, never heard of him
Bigcurly2000
Yeah I'm a Brit who has no interest or ever even seen a game on TV, and I'm pretty sure I've at least heard his name!
huckitchuckit
Zero interceptions thrown in 4 superbowls. Thats amazing
XoxSmotpokerxoX
I believe Bart Starr had less in the playoffs
StephenDaniels
This isn't about Montanna's greatness(it was off the scale) this is about insulting Brady. Its author is likely a jest fan.
ChrisRyan36
That’s some next level sports narcissism right there
ffips
J-E-T-S! SUCK SUCK SUCK
Konpiok1
Haha jets and jest are interchangeable.
ImHereSoIWontGetFined
Poor guy
rayhatesu
to be fair, it's easier to find someone that's willing to tear Brady a new one for the shit he and the Pats have done than to find a fan.
shdwklown
Right, 5 SB Championships, tons of wins and records. Haters going to just listen to ESPN and not look into what actually happened. whatevs.
XoxSmotpokerxoX
But only 1 legitimate championship