If only there was some kind of legal construction that could be used to force companies into treating people properly. Shame no one, anywhere, ever, figured out how to make that work, not even in thought pieces or books.
Fuck Apple. People try to get in there for years. 3-4 interviews to not be hired. If you already have a job, sometimes you need to take off work to schedule the interview. Then to be left hanging. Doing their job, and following up with them despite them saying they will do so. I had a person interviewing me once and she said that she had spent 3 years trying to get into Apple. That is wild to me.
I was getting ghosted all the back in the early 90's. Employers suck, and then they wonder why we have no loyalty at all and will leave as soon as we can.
I've interviewed for two positions at one of my top choice of companies and both times they said they'd be getting together the paperwork and be in touch in a day or two. Both times ghosted. But I won't be snarky the next time because I *really* want to work there. But goddamn.
And this is why things like two weeks notice are a thing if the past 🤷 if you die, they will have you replaced before your body is in the ground. They don't give a fuck about you, stop giving a fuck about them.
I honestly prefer being ghosted. When I was unemployed I sent out 80+ applications per day for almost a year. If you email me a week after we interviewed, I will have already forgotten that interview took place anyway and I don't want you cluttering my mailbox with rejections I can't take action on.
Van Meter Inc, Walmart and GardaWorld. Damn you all. Damn you all to fucking hell. You fucking motherfuckers got my fucking hopes up just to fucking murder my hopes while you made me watch. Fuck you all.
god it ramped up recently too. I work in IT and I have an *okay* job now. pay is great but commute long, so I'm looking for better closer. I used to have no problem getting interviews and hired right after, but now I have 13 years professional experience in the field and even mid entry positions seem to grit teeth at the idea of a perfect match for them. In 2024 I left a job after 6 years and got hired within 2 days, in 2018 I spent just 7 days looking for a job I was working for for 3 years.
I worked for years then went to college full time for degrees and graduated in 2019. Thought w exp and degrees I'd get hired fast. Got 1 interview then nothing. Realized fast all the scammers abound. Then realized I had to plug my ed into my work history bc people asked why i had a gap...they didn't make it to ed part. Smh. Then realized if i didn't look "employed" current month nobody would contact me. So i always added a project or ed to my work history every month to keep the interviews going
"I went to a job interview and after it was over the guy asked if I had any questions so I said if you're driving at the speed of light and you turn on your headlights would anything happen and the guy said I don't know so I said then forget it, I don't want to work for you anymore."
If you're moving at the speed of light that means that the movement to turn on your headlights would cause your arm to be moving *faster* than light, which then means it cannot slow back down to the velocity of your body, and so turning on your headlights would either fling you from your car or rip your arm off. Or cause you to explode into plasma
If you're moving at the speed of light, then "you" and "your car" and everything associated are no longer physical objects, they're just energy. There is no light switch, no arm, nothing to reach or reach for. Easy peasy.
If it were possible to reach the speed of light (which it's not), time would move infinitely slow for you, though you would experience this as the rest of the universe moving infinitely fast. Meaning you would immediately experience the end of the universe or the destruction of your vehicle, whichever came first.
Well yes of course, but the question presupposes that a) you [and your vehicle] can move at the speed of light, b)that you are capable of perceiving time, c) capable of moving your body and mechanisms of your vehicle [and therefore moving faster or slower than light] and d) you and your vehicle are still composed of matter. Probably a lot of other things besides, but those are the major ones that immediately come to mind
In a practical sense, yes it's impossible. But so is Maxwell's Demon, and that doesn't stop it from being an extremely important thought experiement people still teach, reference and even publish papers about to this day. Also, that's an incredibly boring response, live a little.
I'll prove it by asking you a question. If you were in a car only going 50 mph and you move your arm to turn on your headlights, is your arm moving faster than 50 mph?
Two trains pass each other at the same speed their speed relative to each other is twice their speedometer. But wanna know something neat? If 2 beams of light pass each other their telative speed remains c (the speed of light). This is because light always travels at a constant speed - never faster, never slower, never changed by the frame of reference. Likewise, it is impossible for something to achieve the speed of light, be that by speeding up or slowing down. Thus, my response
If you won't it proved, it won't fit in a comment reply, but is actually really cool. Pull up a YouTube vid from a decent science educator of your choice. Search something like if I run on a train, am I moving faster than the train
Oh wow, okay, we're really starting from the basics here. Light does not behave as matter does. Two objects passing head on at the same velocity pass eachother at double that velocity relative to the other. When two beams of light pass each other the relative speed is not 2•c, it is c. The speed of light it a limit that cannot be matched - from either direction. This also means it is impossible for light to move faster or slower (in a given media), its velocity is constant.
Easy enough for them to lie their way out of those charges, unfortunately. They likely are actually understaffed, and most of the workers would attest that they need more help, so the job postings can be justified. As far as never actually hiring someone, they can just claim that they didn't find what they were looking for in a candidate, and lie about why each one didn't fit the criteria.
I saw this at a company where I worked, for the team I ran. "It's just something we do to stay active in the market" yeah cool... But I am well known in that tech community so now I am getting pinged by people for jobs that don't exist off a job posting I didn't even know about - where I had already been told we couldn't hire when I asked...
My goodness, "they" are so fortunate that no shareholder has EVER determined this. Even given the vast swaths of info from Bloomberg terminals [and even better/worse subscriptions], Nikkei, US financial disclosure rules, actually serious EU financial transparency rules - odd that keeps happening. Almost as if you're trying to make a nice, clean scapegoat for a complicated matter.
It is also meant to get tax breaks designed for companies that are hiring. And to lure in wanted applicants while rejecting anyone who they cant get to work for lower than they are worth.
a government is required to not rape children. a government is required to use taxes to pay for infrastructure. we don't live n a world where a thing being required by law actually happens as required
I applied to 2 internal jobs last year that were removed and then magically new title positions were made and they just put their buddies into it. Not hiring, restructuring.
That's happened to me in the past. Pretend interviews for internal jobs, it's obvious within a couple minutes they already made up their mind - and if it were me I'd have known long before that - we're just wasting our time.
I've been watching Jennifer Brick videos on YT. Every single one I've seen so far about toxic people / toxic jobs has been dead on. I don't like her AI clip art animations for some of it but I like the information.
You mean how many times a day? Hard to gauge, lately, a lot. I've been where I'm at for decades, and currently it's at or very close to the worst it's ever been. I do have reasons for staying though.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
I was once ghosted applying for an internal job at a place I worked for. That's when I knew it was time to leave.
idiotsonfire
With the move towards AI, jobs that disappear will never come back.
cousteau
With 3-4 reports per company at the top of the list, I'd say it's too early to consider this a proper ranking.
pomax
If only there was some kind of legal construction that could be used to force companies into treating people properly. Shame no one, anywhere, ever, figured out how to make that work, not even in thought pieces or books.
NinjaCongo
Condescending Nasty
imjustagurl87
Fuck Apple. People try to get in there for years. 3-4 interviews to not be hired. If you already have a job, sometimes you need to take off work to schedule the interview. Then to be left hanging. Doing their job, and following up with them despite them saying they will do so. I had a person interviewing me once and she said that she had spent 3 years trying to get into Apple. That is wild to me.
Loctavius
I was getting ghosted all the back in the early 90's. Employers suck, and then they wonder why we have no loyalty at all and will leave as soon as we can.
Snooj
I've interviewed for two positions at one of my top choice of companies and both times they said they'd be getting together the paperwork and be in touch in a day or two. Both times ghosted. But I won't be snarky the next time because I *really* want to work there. But goddamn.
MotoCanuck
Just wait til you see what a lot of tech companies do with the information of the applicants..
LeekofLegend
And this is why things like two weeks notice are a thing if the past 🤷 if you die, they will have you replaced before your body is in the ground. They don't give a fuck about you, stop giving a fuck about them.
potatoispeople
I honestly prefer being ghosted. When I was unemployed I sent out 80+ applications per day for almost a year. If you email me a week after we interviewed, I will have already forgotten that interview took place anyway and I don't want you cluttering my mailbox with rejections I can't take action on.
MrGhostbuster
Van Meter Inc, Walmart and GardaWorld. Damn you all. Damn you all to fucking hell. You fucking motherfuckers got my fucking hopes up just to fucking murder my hopes while you made me watch. Fuck you all.
futhor
Are hiring managers generally pretty secure in their jobs or is it more of a chaos reigns situation
Trondason
They are if they only hire hiring managers less competent than themselves.
DumPutz
Kohl's is a chaos reigns situation.
7qd26tttv7
Results drive security.
Do they want short, medium or long growth is entirely up to them and likely wrong?
viva93
god it ramped up recently too. I work in IT and I have an *okay* job now. pay is great but commute long, so I'm looking for better closer. I used to have no problem getting interviews and hired right after, but now I have 13 years professional experience in the field and even mid entry positions seem to grit teeth at the idea of a perfect match for them. In 2024 I left a job after 6 years and got hired within 2 days, in 2018 I spent just 7 days looking for a job I was working for for 3 years.
sadurdaynight
I worked for years then went to college full time for degrees and graduated in 2019. Thought w exp and degrees I'd get hired fast. Got 1 interview then nothing. Realized fast all the scammers abound. Then realized I had to plug my ed into my work history bc people asked why i had a gap...they didn't make it to ed part. Smh. Then realized if i didn't look "employed" current month nobody would contact me. So i always added a project or ed to my work history every month to keep the interviews going
spontaneous9
"I went to a job interview and after it was over the guy asked if I had any questions so I said if you're driving at the speed of light and you turn on your headlights would anything happen and the guy said I don't know so I said then forget it, I don't want to work for you anymore."
-- Steven Wright
SailorPupitar
All the light rays travel with you at the same speed, forming a battering ram of pure blinding light
spontaneous9
It merely illuminates how often Steven Wright's humor is misinterpreted.
RocMage
Of course they work. They just don't do anything.
tentacularfleshscape
Or they'd spray the photons behind vehicle?
wejustdontknow
Depends on your point of reference.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
They'd increase the intensity of the light
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
If you're moving at the speed of light that means that the movement to turn on your headlights would cause your arm to be moving *faster* than light, which then means it cannot slow back down to the velocity of your body, and so turning on your headlights would either fling you from your car or rip your arm off. Or cause you to explode into plasma
Fahrenheit536
If you're moving at the speed of light, then "you" and "your car" and everything associated are no longer physical objects, they're just energy. There is no light switch, no arm, nothing to reach or reach for. Easy peasy.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
The question implicitly assumes that you remain normal matter at light speed
Fahrenheit536
Then you're operating outside any known parameters of our universe, so all answers are equally valid, and pointless.
SpikesGuns
If you're driving a car at the speed of light then you have a lot bigger problems than what happens or doesn't happen when you flip a switch
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Obviously you can state the obvious, but that's no fun
BillandTedsUnremarkableTripToCostCo
If it were possible to reach the speed of light (which it's not), time would move infinitely slow for you, though you would experience this as the rest of the universe moving infinitely fast. Meaning you would immediately experience the end of the universe or the destruction of your vehicle, whichever came first.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Well yes of course, but the question presupposes that a) you [and your vehicle] can move at the speed of light, b)that you are capable of perceiving time, c) capable of moving your body and mechanisms of your vehicle [and therefore moving faster or slower than light] and d) you and your vehicle are still composed of matter. Probably a lot of other things besides, but those are the major ones that immediately come to mind
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
The scenario is impossible therefore there are no "results". The correct answer is "Mu" - "Please unask the question".
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
In a practical sense, yes it's impossible. But so is Maxwell's Demon, and that doesn't stop it from being an extremely important thought experiement people still teach, reference and even publish papers about to this day. Also, that's an incredibly boring response, live a little.
spontaneous9
I don't want to work for you anymore.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Unfortunately, I'm gonna make you a (job) offer you can't refuse. You start on thursday at 10:37 sharp, be there. Or else.
spontaneous9
Look. I need you to find me 11,780 more dollars per hour.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Best I can do is 0.99 racehorse heads in your bed per hour
DaOutlaw
Wrong.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Prove it
DaOutlaw
I'll prove it by asking you a question. If you were in a car only going 50 mph and you move your arm to turn on your headlights, is your arm moving faster than 50 mph?
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Two trains pass each other at the same speed their speed relative to each other is twice their speedometer. But wanna know something neat? If 2 beams of light pass each other their telative speed remains c (the speed of light). This is because light always travels at a constant speed - never faster, never slower, never changed by the frame of reference. Likewise, it is impossible for something to achieve the speed of light, be that by speeding up or slowing down. Thus, my response
Forensickle
If you won't it proved, it won't fit in a comment reply, but is actually really cool. Pull up a YouTube vid from a decent science educator of your choice. Search something like if I run on a train, am I moving faster than the train
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Oh wow, okay, we're really starting from the basics here. Light does not behave as matter does. Two objects passing head on at the same velocity pass eachother at double that velocity relative to the other. When two beams of light pass each other the relative speed is not 2•c, it is c. The speed of light it a limit that cannot be matched - from either direction. This also means it is impossible for light to move faster or slower (in a given media), its velocity is constant.
Jimthebutler
Companies put postings for jobs up and they never intend to hire anyone. It should be considered actual fraud but nothing is ever done about it.
LincLoud
Agreed
theshinobi23
Easy enough for them to lie their way out of those charges, unfortunately. They likely are actually understaffed, and most of the workers would attest that they need more help, so the job postings can be justified. As far as never actually hiring someone, they can just claim that they didn't find what they were looking for in a candidate, and lie about why each one didn't fit the criteria.
megalodonburi
I saw this at a company where I worked, for the team I ran. "It's just something we do to stay active in the market" yeah cool... But I am well known in that tech community so now I am getting pinged by people for jobs that don't exist off a job posting I didn't even know about - where I had already been told we couldn't hire when I asked...
TheNextFreud
The whole applying to jobs and interviewing stuff is so shady in the US. Not sure about other countries, but it's probably the same.
xj4low
It's made to keep shareholders thinking that the company is still growing and a good investment.
2774
My goodness, "they" are so fortunate that no shareholder has EVER determined this. Even given the vast swaths of info from Bloomberg terminals [and even better/worse subscriptions], Nikkei, US financial disclosure rules, actually serious EU financial transparency rules - odd that keeps happening. Almost as if you're trying to make a nice, clean scapegoat for a complicated matter.
Jimthebutler
It is also meant to get tax breaks designed for companies that are hiring. And to lure in wanted applicants while rejecting anyone who they cant get to work for lower than they are worth.
Noahbalboa82
I'm guessing so that they can say they can't find anyone to fill the position and need to hire a foreign worker on visa?
Jimthebutler
Which sounds like fraud.
Noahbalboa82
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eDYyZmJ2MjRrNzI4Y2J1b2d2cnNyZ3lzOXp1YzZ0bWptMWVqZDVtbyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/cXblnKXr2BQOaYnTni/200w.webp
PunnyTiger
for some reason they stopped punishing fraud aound the end of the 20th century
PourMeAPuppersPlease
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bmZma2o2ZmkxaGZ0bzFycWRkcXV0NmIyaTgwaGNnbnNyM2lxN3JrMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Uuj2gEGqbVQFq/200w.webp correct, nothing will ever be done about it
wejustdontknow
Nothing is ever done about anything related to corporations.
ope1
I wonder if anything will ever be arson about it
MADchemEE
RadicalRecluse
a government is required to punish fraud.
PunnyTiger
a government is required to not rape children. a government is required to use taxes to pay for infrastructure. we don't live n a world where a thing being required by law actually happens as required
RadicalRecluse
i was suggesting we do not have a government, but i can understand why you read it the way you did.
FckleberryFarms
Where I work does this all the time. They're required to post the jobs, but usually it's been decided before there is even an actual opening.
WPIII381
Veterans Affairs
idothingsheren
Same. We had a contractor that we wanted to convert, but legally, we had to open a role to the public so he could get converted
MoxieMonster
I applied to 2 internal jobs last year that were removed and then magically new title positions were made and they just put their buddies into it. Not hiring, restructuring.
FckleberryFarms
That's happened to me in the past. Pretend interviews for internal jobs, it's obvious within a couple minutes they already made up their mind - and if it were me I'd have known long before that - we're just wasting our time.
Jimthebutler
Sounds like the place you work at sucks. Sorry you hav3 to deal with that kind of organization.
FckleberryFarms
I've been watching Jennifer Brick videos on YT. Every single one I've seen so far about toxic people / toxic jobs has been dead on. I don't like her AI clip art animations for some of it but I like the information.
Jimthebutler
How many times a week you feel an urge to quit?
FckleberryFarms
You mean how many times a day? Hard to gauge, lately, a lot. I've been where I'm at for decades, and currently it's at or very close to the worst it's ever been. I do have reasons for staying though.