That is the poetic justice I need in my life. How sweet would it be if Stephen Colbert were to replace Lindsay? After all, it was maga that caused Stephen Colbert to be canned - now is a perfect time to put Colbert in the Senate.
I have had it with celebrity politicians. I want normal, boring politicians who argue over a quarter of a percent to fund the high school football team
Not a chance he gets elected down there. SC is DEEP RED. Graham's seat is safe. His sister is serving in the interim, and some other feckless MAGA Republican will take over in November.
Okay but does he WANT to do that? Didn't some aquarium offer him a dream job as an oceanic researcher, which he's always wanted, or something along that line? We mustn't expect Colbert to go to DC for us if he's fucking tired and just wants to research the fuckin Mariana Trench now, after all.
Ok we always just talk about the fact he’s an entertainer but he is highly intelligent, has common sense, and keeps up with all the current news, politics, and finance…..
Andrews had to leave MUSC after Mace attacked her with anti-trans rhetoric which lead to death threats against Andrews, her family, and MUSC forcing Andrews to take a leave of absence in which she was "not invited" back to her position.
Basically, the hospital acted like all heartless corps, saw her as a liability and cut ties.
MUSC might have saved my life a few times, but they're clearly no longer interested in being a force for good and haven't been for a long time. The doctors, nurses and physicians who work there are still good people and healers first, I'm sure, but the hospital as a whole unit is now very obviously a business first, and one that is trying desperately to take over every medical facility in the state.
None of this changes the qualifications and candidacy of Andrews, of course.
Yeah, that sucks, the monopoly part, not the life savings. It seems like that's everywhere now, corporations keep absorbing practices and regional hospitals while decreasing staffing, compensation, at the detriment of patient care.
I'm not sure about SC's laws exactly but IIRC anyone appointed would just be in the seat until the next election so he'd just be there until Jan then if she won she'd be in there.
-Barring members of congress from trading stocks and getting rich off of insider information -Supporting term limits and stronger ethics rules -End tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy and corporate polluters -Universal background checks for gun owners. Even if she's not as progressive as most would like, sounds a hell of a lot better than Graham.
I'm really hoping Dr. Andrews takes the seat. Hell I'd vote for her if she was running to replace McMaster, but having her in the Senate would be a big step in the right direction.
This is why Trump is president. Bc people didn’t get their perfect democract that doesnt exist so they either didn’t vote or voted for the republican. It’s so dumb
That guy from The Colbert Report could probably convince enough (R) voters that he's legit. Apparently it wasn't clear to them that the character is pure satire.
This is terrible but I can't tell if you're referring to Dubya having Colbert host the correspondents dinner, or saying that Dubya was a character based in pure satire.
So honest question, can you run contrary to your actual party (like based on beliefs and values) and then win and switch? Obviously politicians make false promises and shit, but I mean like an actual full fake campaign.
The reality of politics is and has always been that the name means nothing. "Communist" countries were never actually Communists. They were one party, authoritarian states, where power was generally held by a dictator and their inner circle. Guess who wants that while decrying "communism"
As intelligent (and likable) that both Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart may seem; I don't think television celebrities are ever a good choice to serve as politicians.
Television celebrities are typically actors or directors or producers, no? Then yeah that's a bad idea because what qualifications do they have to run government.
But Colbert and Stewart? Highly intelligent, highly educated and experienced with law and governance, and have worked with teams of highly intelligent researchers for decades creating their shows that literally had fact checking prerequisites before being able to show on air. They are HIGHLY qualified to be politicians.
For the typical celebrity, I agree with you. For celebrities that are actually paying such attention to current affairs, they would do a better job than what we have now
I disagree. To say anyone should be barred from public office is fascism. The current president of Ukrain, the man that they now revere, has proven that not only can TV celebrities lead, they can go up against historic tyrants and not flinch. Just cause someone is on TV doesn't make them less-than. This is pre-school logic here. Stop the double standards.
If they are intelligent, and i firmly believe that comedians ( especially satirists) are some of the smartest people in showbusiness, what's the obstacle for them to do a good job?
Why does it always have to be lawyers, businessmen and the like that form the pool of political leaders? Look at where that got us.
As @509tigerfish noted, Volodymyr Zelenskyy started as a comedian, who's satirical show Servant of the People segued into starting a political party of the same name, and then the Ukraine presidency.
But he was less the talent and more the documentary subject. He wasn't acting, or responsible for rapid responses etc. in fact, if reports are to be believed, there's lots of tape of him that was cut.
Trump has always been a brand, not a person. That's the difference in this case. It takes intelligence and wit to make it the way Colbert and Stewart have, among others. Trump has always ridden on the coattails of his name to make it in television. He was the "host" of a show, never a showrunner.
True, but some critics cite missteps/nepotism/corruption allegations as reasons his celebrity-to-leader transition was a poor choice. Albeit he has done an admirable job holding his own against some of the more corruptible world leaders.
You're missing the point. Trump is uniquely terrible but the reason he gets to be uniquely terrible is because he was an unqualified outsider with a TV show who got elected. Stewart and Colbert are also unqualified outsiders even if they're funny and opinionated in a way you enjoy.
Citing Zelensky who is using war emergency powers to reform the government every 2 years to fight corruption is a silly comparison
It's not that they're never a good choice, to me, it's more of... do they want to do this? Are they ready for the absolute fucktastrophy they're walking into, that joking won't get them out of? No shame on any of them if they look at the option and say "HELL to the NO. I ain't got it in me to fix THAT mess."
Zelenskyy is an extraordinary man, this is true! But he also willingly went into the mess. I don't see Colbert volunteering himself, I only see OTHER people volunteering him and Stewart for high political office. It's okay if Colbert and Stewart don't have it in them to measure up to Zelenskyy, ya know?
The best candidates for positions of power are those who do not want that power.
(Because the people who do want power almost without fail want it for selfish reasons, while those who don't want it but still accept it recognize the responsibility it entails.)
I suppose you're right... Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Clint Eastwood, Jesse Ventura, Donald Trump, Al Franken, and Jerry Springer were all excellent politicians.
Ya, some were, and some weren't. Just like every other human classification. You're no better than someone saying, "All black people are bad." But because celebrity isn't a race, you feel justified in your prejudice. Like Jesus fucking christ, have a logical thought.
I mean Franken wasn't a bad politician. Some questionable jokes, but in the light of the last few years, shit is quaint by comparison. Not that we shouldn't expect people to behave themselves. Unless there's more about him I missed.
tjinme
That is the poetic justice I need in my life. How sweet would it be if Stephen Colbert were to replace Lindsay? After all, it was maga that caused Stephen Colbert to be canned - now is a perfect time to put Colbert in the Senate.
karlfrack
In SC????? I worked there for 7 years. Intelligence is out. A solid drumpf jeaneyuss will be there next. Book it.
NotSoFastener
I have had it with celebrity politicians. I want normal, boring politicians who argue over a quarter of a percent to fund the high school football team
redditmcredditface
The man has too much class to become a congressman im afraid
bloxxing
not great. not fascist enough.
intercitydude
Colbert 2028
unluckyandbored
Not a chance he gets elected down there. SC is DEEP RED. Graham's seat is safe. His sister is serving in the interim, and some other feckless MAGA Republican will take over in November.
apneax3n0n
i am not even a murican but from europe this would be great
Howlingowl
TV stars do not make great politicians- that’s why things are fucked in the first place.
sirbartonslady
Okay but does he WANT to do that? Didn't some aquarium offer him a dream job as an oceanic researcher, which he's always wanted, or something along that line? We mustn't expect Colbert to go to DC for us if he's fucking tired and just wants to research the fuckin Mariana Trench now, after all.
PileOfWalthers
A moldy sponge from the kitchen sink would make a great replacement for Lindsay Graham.
slopwizard
How? It won't pay men for sex
Nightcaste
But men who have sex with it will still get an infection
whereismymind86
Careful I just got banned from Reddit for making a joke about that
gtollie
He tried to run in the SC primaries back in 2008. The GOP was too expensive. He paid the Democrat’s filing fee but the party denied his application
https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/stephen-colbert-denied-south-carolina-primary-run-idUSN01486775/
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
Omg that would be so amazing… He would give them all the shits!!!!
stolenkiss37
Ok we always just talk about the fact he’s an entertainer but he is highly intelligent, has common sense, and keeps up with all the current news, politics, and finance…..
nintendolunchbox
Yeah. People like that don't want the responsibility
phuey200311337
Please let it come true
Urgalicity
Better yet, vote him in as an independent.
fyrekitten
I would move to SC just to vote for him!
Ivalicenyan
We should elect more TV personalities into office.
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubman
CrispyNougat
Her sister was appointed
hufflesnuff
It's South KKKarolina folks. Some things just are what they be.
hufflesnuff
Put otherwise, they weren't voting in Lindsey repeatedly because he cared so much about Palmettos.
helyx
As a SC resident, Colbert has my vote. Give us someone decent, with integrity.
MostAwesomeDan
As an SC resident, you should look up Annie Andrews, the current dem nominee. She's a pediatric physician at MUSC
spittleteets
Andrews had to leave MUSC after Mace attacked her with anti-trans rhetoric which lead to death threats against Andrews, her family, and MUSC forcing Andrews to take a leave of absence in which she was "not invited" back to her position.
Basically, the hospital acted like all heartless corps, saw her as a liability and cut ties.
MostAwesomeDan
MUSC might have saved my life a few times, but they're clearly no longer interested in being a force for good and haven't been for a long time. The doctors, nurses and physicians who work there are still good people and healers first, I'm sure, but the hospital as a whole unit is now very obviously a business first, and one that is trying desperately to take over every medical facility in the state.
None of this changes the qualifications and candidacy of Andrews, of course.
spittleteets
Yeah, that sucks, the monopoly part, not the life savings. It seems like that's everywhere now, corporations keep absorbing practices and regional hospitals while decreasing staffing, compensation, at the detriment of patient care.
barf1189
He would destroy the republican nazis if he took office
spattr
He should run as a Republican
silentjay01
Can anyone vote in the Republican Special Election Primary do-over, or is it a closed primary where only registered Republicans can vote?
bitemark
It would be like people who run for HOA boards, who shut them down once they're in
doesTheUNmatter
It'd be like fetterman that ran as dem but is a POS Republican.
Wardonk3y
That is ridiculous enough to actually happen. That would be fantastic
TheS4ndm4n
As Colbert from the Colbert report.
GingerGoddess357
Even out the the fetterman effect
cgt9803
Haha, that would be such a mindfuck. Playing his right-wing jerk character and the rednecks all think it's real.
Snarkywisecrack
I worked with some of them who were genuinely confused by that show. It's hard to believe Colbert could do it for so long.
IIikethecutofyourjib
I couldn't believe just how many dumbasses really thought he was right wing...
nintendolunchbox
Haha and disassemble from the inside
ChewyTheWookie
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MjE3cGR3Y2N6dzM0Z254Y3p2Z3UyZGFjMGI2MnFzYWc2YnJvdjUzeCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/ZU27SQn1qVlORr2dMa/200w.webp
evildadunit
akshully that is how it's done.
The fifties repubs championed unions and set up the Railroad Workers Pension Fund
WolfgangVonTittySprinkles
If you can’t beat them, join them… Then beat them.
nintendolunchbox
Maybe that's what the USA needs . A party switch. Fool the maga into wanting rights and healthcare.. it's been done before. Lincoln was a Republican.
4chanrefugee
That's called pulling a uɐɯɹǝʇʇǝℲ
PutItInNeutral
Just say a Reverse Fetterman.
MacKelvey
As a Pennsylvanian :
nintendolunchbox
Make it stop!!!!!!!!!
Felberin
Also, hasn't he said he doesn't want to be in politics? Or was it some other latenight host that was well liked for their political takes.
nintendolunchbox
I believe them. Same with Michelle Obama. Shed win but doesn't want to do it.
ukalliq
She would not win, unfortunately.
fformulaa
Not sure about this dude but jon stewart from the daily show has mentioned that
Felberin
Clearly all the white charismatic latenight hosts are blending together, they should not all look exactly alike >:|
PirateArrrgument
The governor has already appointed LG's sister, without election, to take his place.
602BeBe
He lives in New Jersey, so there’s that.
nintendolunchbox
That's never stopped a politician
Scobragon
You want more celebrities in politics, literally why you're in this mess in the first place.
nintendolunchbox
We need something to yank our greatest experiment back into place.
Scobragon
What a laughable statement. Either you're unbearably naive and optimistic or damned ignorant.
nintendolunchbox
Stated by no posts and three favorites. Thanks for your opinion bot.
Scobragon
You're just not in the club.
nintendolunchbox
Naw. I don't need to see your mom anymore.
VitaminJay
a fresh mars account wasted another weekend being mad they're not king of the world.
spittleteets
Dems already had their primary, Annie Andrews won.
Urgalicity
You don't have to vote for the private club's favorite pick.
meme2zombie
I'm not sure about SC's laws exactly but IIRC anyone appointed would just be in the seat until the next election so he'd just be there until Jan then if she won she'd be in there.
azgrak1
Graham’s sister was just appointed to hold his seat.
spittleteets
McMaster would *NEVER* appoint Colbert.
sequeezey
Just read a little of her platform:
-Barring members of congress from trading stocks and getting rich off of insider information
-Supporting term limits and stronger ethics rules
-End tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy and corporate polluters
-Universal background checks for gun owners. Even if she's not as progressive as most would like, sounds a hell of a lot better than Graham.
KuroFluff
Oh shit, I'm surprise the Dems allowed her to win the primary
Lycanthian
I'm really hoping Dr. Andrews takes the seat. Hell I'd vote for her if she was running to replace McMaster, but having her in the Senate would be a big step in the right direction.
spittleteets
Things All Americans Want → GOP propaganda machine = She might as well be Stalin
unluckyandbored
I really hope she wins more than 20% of the vote. Winning is out of the question, but I'd like the race to at least be kinda close.
GeneralPrower
She taking AIPAC money?
Mannypettyaf
Luke warm, pro-corporate platform. Just another Dem grifter getting ready to sell us out to the fascists with performative opposition.
spittleteets
You realize there is more than one type of social change right?
crann
So not voting in November then?
noonehasthisoneyet
This is why Trump is president. Bc people didn’t get their perfect democract that doesnt exist so they either didn’t vote or voted for the republican. It’s so dumb
TheBigBadBonerBiter
Considering Lady G was their senator for two decades that's still a marked improvement.
MikesMakery
It's better, and it's the best we're gonna get from SC for now.
GFYandyourstupidrequirements
He could run as a Republican
abtei
anyone before a democrat! /lol
FinancialRavioli
That guy from The Colbert Report could probably convince enough (R) voters that he's legit. Apparently it wasn't clear to them that the character is pure satire.
Mitheral
It would be a hard row to hoe because Trump has been dumping on Colbert.
wadatahmydamie
Hey, it worked on Dubya
FinancialRavioli
This is terrible but I can't tell if you're referring to Dubya having Colbert host the correspondents dinner, or saying that Dubya was a character based in pure satire.
choppedliveraldente
Here's a clue. Hes annoyed by pantyhoes.
slopwizard
I don't know. I heard he's been listening to Rage Against the Machine even after they got all political
4etherling
Tom really needs to do a college course in political science or history before he starts running his mouth on social media.
spiffylookingnerfherder
He would say himself that he is a conservative, he just doesn't have much in common with the current Republican party nor MAGA movement.
DefaOmega
So honest question, can you run contrary to your actual party (like based on beliefs and values) and then win and switch? Obviously politicians make false promises and shit, but I mean like an actual full fake campaign.
Squatchyhiker
You mean Fetterman?
DefaOmega
Shit! Actually that's a good point that I didn't immediately think of. Can Fetterman actually change parties while in office though?
McMasterx
The other guy started talking about systems of Government, but yes, Politicians have in the past changed their party affiliations while in Office.
Squatchyhiker
The reality of politics is and has always been that the name means nothing. "Communist" countries were never actually Communists. They were one party, authoritarian states, where power was generally held by a dictator and their inner circle. Guess who wants that while decrying "communism"
JawanaDjinnAndTonic
As intelligent (and likable) that both Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart may seem; I don't think television celebrities are ever a good choice to serve as politicians.
notblat
Television celebrities are typically actors or directors or producers, no? Then yeah that's a bad idea because what qualifications do they have to run government.
notblat
But Colbert and Stewart? Highly intelligent, highly educated and experienced with law and governance, and have worked with teams of highly intelligent researchers for decades creating their shows that literally had fact checking prerequisites before being able to show on air. They are HIGHLY qualified to be politicians.
slopwizard
For the typical celebrity, I agree with you. For celebrities that are actually paying such attention to current affairs, they would do a better job than what we have now
notmyrealface
I disagree. To say anyone should be barred from public office is fascism. The current president of Ukrain, the man that they now revere, has proven that not only can TV celebrities lead, they can go up against historic tyrants and not flinch. Just cause someone is on TV doesn't make them less-than. This is pre-school logic here. Stop the double standards.
OEAO1337
Not directly but they are immensely helpful in just causes like when Jon Steward helped the 9-11 first responders.
rbudrick
Cuz the businessmen and lawyers have done such a great fucking job, right?
FPAlpha
Why? Honestly why?
If they are intelligent, and i firmly believe that comedians ( especially satirists) are some of the smartest people in showbusiness, what's the obstacle for them to do a good job?
Why does it always have to be lawyers, businessmen and the like that form the pool of political leaders? Look at where that got us.
marsilies
As @509tigerfish noted, Volodymyr Zelenskyy started as a comedian, who's satirical show Servant of the People segued into starting a political party of the same name, and then the Ukraine presidency.
Zalagzny
I mean. Trump is a pretty good reason.
Mustakraken
But he was less the talent and more the documentary subject. He wasn't acting, or responsible for rapid responses etc. in fact, if reports are to be believed, there's lots of tape of him that was cut.
crann
Trump has always been a brand, not a person. That's the difference in this case. It takes intelligence and wit to make it the way Colbert and Stewart have, among others. Trump has always ridden on the coattails of his name to make it in television. He was the "host" of a show, never a showrunner.
petpet3d
Couldn't be worse than the type of people who serve now.
509tigerfish
ummmm - the people of Ukraine might have a good argument against that
JawanaDjinnAndTonic
True, but some critics cite missteps/nepotism/corruption allegations as reasons his celebrity-to-leader transition was a poor choice. Albeit he has done an admirable job holding his own against some of the more corruptible world leaders.
jaggcomputing5
I"ll see your Zelenski and raise you Reagan and a Trump.
Trunkmonkay
Hey whose our president right now and what did he do before this.
Arracor
Pedophilia, rape, and fraud. Don't blame Hollywood for this, his crimes are entirely his own doing.
Trunkmonkay
You're missing the point. Trump is uniquely terrible but the reason he gets to be uniquely terrible is because he was an unqualified outsider with a TV show who got elected. Stewart and Colbert are also unqualified outsiders even if they're funny and opinionated in a way you enjoy.
Citing Zelensky who is using war emergency powers to reform the government every 2 years to fight corruption is a silly comparison
fleetmind
He did terrible things to kids for one thing
sirbartonslady
It's not that they're never a good choice, to me, it's more of... do they want to do this? Are they ready for the absolute fucktastrophy they're walking into, that joking won't get them out of? No shame on any of them if they look at the option and say "HELL to the NO. I ain't got it in me to fix THAT mess."
wadatahmydamie
Zelenskyy seems to be doing all right
sirbartonslady
Zelenskyy is an extraordinary man, this is true! But he also willingly went into the mess. I don't see Colbert volunteering himself, I only see OTHER people volunteering him and Stewart for high political office. It's okay if Colbert and Stewart don't have it in them to measure up to Zelenskyy, ya know?
Rogahar
The best candidates for positions of power are those who do not want that power.
(Because the people who do want power almost without fail want it for selfish reasons, while those who don't want it but still accept it recognize the responsibility it entails.)
OmNachoMama
That's the same question that every single one of us has to ask if we decide to go into politics with the intention of trying to fix anything
nintendolunchbox
Well if you have any proof of your hypothesis, let it be known !!
khaoselement
Dude...look at our fucking president. I'm not saying I agree with the guy you're responding to but...come on.
JawanaDjinnAndTonic
I suppose you're right... Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Clint Eastwood, Jesse Ventura, Donald Trump, Al Franken, and Jerry Springer were all excellent politicians.
nintendolunchbox
Yay baby!!!!!!!!!!!
notmyrealface
Ya, some were, and some weren't. Just like every other human classification. You're no better than someone saying, "All black people are bad." But because celebrity isn't a race, you feel justified in your prejudice. Like Jesus fucking christ, have a logical thought.
zFUBARz
I mean Franken wasn't a bad politician. Some questionable jokes, but in the light of the last few years, shit is quaint by comparison. Not that we shouldn't expect people to behave themselves. Unless there's more about him I missed.
atoyot
Jesse Ventura actually was an excellent politician though?