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If extraterrestrials were ever found on Earth, what're the odds that they're gonna look just like a Spielberg character? The fact that they got an audience of people to take them seriously is insane.
https://www.ladbible.com/news/world-news/truth-alien-bodies-mexico-335503-20230914
sarahsaurroar
Wait.....THAT'S the 'alien' Mexico found? I thought it was misshapen cardboard egg carton all this time that just got memed! People are ready to believe anything aren't they?
ideasbychuck
The sad part of this story is the fact that these might be mishandled and unreasearched human funerary relics of archeological importance.
FudgeWeasel
baldbear
There are some really strange stories about UFOs and aliens that make me wonder, these here are not among them.
aycaramba
I live in Mexico. I am so embarrassed. Our government is full of clowns đ€Ą. While they do this stupid things there are no medicines, no good health care, our country is overwhelmingly going more violent.
Colopty
The complete lack of imagination is striking. Dude's trying to sell the idea of a creature from a completely different planet and the best design he could come up with is paper mache'd ET from Alibaba?
Marcolorn
At least they could hire an artist that knows something about anatomy.
HollerinAtTheVoid
I really want these to be real, not because i believe they are, but because i just want to see the cognitive fallout of everyone being like "they're not fake?!?! You're telling me they just look like dried out ET miniatures? I guess i still 'believe', but I'm very upset about this."
Seanspeed
Of all the abundance of insanely weird lifeforms here on Earth, it turns out interstellar beings look just like small, deformed versions of humans. Lazy job God, lazy job.
ArgumentativeArguerJustBecause
I mean, I know you're joking, but like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution this is a thing after all.
ShitsNGiggelz
PT Barnum called and he wanted his exhibit back.
Isorikk
The likelihood that "aliens" would ever find our world is so insanely small you can't imagine it. Then the likelihood they could travel here AND would be humanoid and bipedal? If you think this is remotely in the realm of possibility then you might as well start dancing to summon the rain.
JustTryingToLiveLife
The same person who presented these remains 2 years ago was debunked then and hes DUBUNKED still
ahorseelbowdeepinme
It looks like someone you'd try to sell chocolate to
lordyhalvey
Brilliant.
ZeRootOfAllEvil
trigonman3
I laughed when I saw him in Resident Alien.
Nuttsy
Jenny Hanniver in THIS day and age!?
Revicus
Sometimes you gotta play the classics, y'know?
oggyswe
They resemble asgards from stargate more. And they dont look mumified more like they are grovly stony?
hotdoginathermos
SherMattLockSmith
The dude was known for a previous fraud along these same exact lines. Why anyone even entertained his claims is mindboggling.
OriginalSyn
You mean the guy that tried to pass off fake alien mummies years ago is at it again? Quelle surprise.
circlebreaker
Literally the exact same person. Un-fucking-believable.
cyberspork
Don't you mean "Qué sorpresa"?
OhIfIMust
Seriously, is it the 90s again? This is some serious Alien-Autopsy-level bullshit.
keenidiot
This stuff goes in waves, it's not super surprising.
OhIfIMust
Pff, the first one was bad enough, I'm none too thrilled to be witnessing another.
keenidiot
Oh it goes back to the Betty and Barney hill sighting and before. Each one is then used as evidence for the next one.
OhIfIMust
cosonfused
It's in Mexico, so it's Qué sorpresa. ( i think, blame DeepL)
cyberspork
efb
JustTryingToLiveLife
And its funny because its the same remains
doppelfisch
Seriously? That's what I first thought when I saw the pictures yesterday! You wouldn't happen to have a link for that, would ya? Help me win a bet! đ€Ł
100KushUps
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BlastFX
IIRC, they weren't the same fakes he got busted with in 2017, but these exacts ones were already debunked in 2021.
DidItForScience
Why would he let them be x-rayed? He must be an actual alien trying to discredit the UFO research community. Yeah that's the ticket!
Revicus
Decent writeup at https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/world/americas/alien-mummy-congress-mexico.html that specifies these are the same "Nazca mummies" this guy was trying to peddle back in 2017.
doppelfisch
Thank you!
DidItForScience
Hmm the article you linked doesn't say that. It's a really short two paragraphs. Are you a subscriber? Maybe you get more article?
Revicus
That's weird. I'm seeing *way* more than two paragraphs, but I'm definitely not a subscriber. I'm sorry, I have no earthly idea why it would be showing differently on your end. The last sentence of the last paragraph should be: "While debunking the contention that the mummies were extraterrestrials, the researchers expressed wonder as to how the specimens were made centuries ago, appearing to be 'constructions of very high quality.'"
pr3viso
For a moment there I was expecting that when they showed aliens in Mexico it would be a bunch of Americans
Sheldonian
I mean, just go to Polanco or [insert favorite beach]
besn
JarJarBinksKisser
But legit tho. Imagine if it WASS real. That aliens would be these fragile 20 inch tall beings? THEYD NEVER CONTACT US. Wed be giant scary massive beasts compared to them. Advanced tech or not. We'd be able to tear them to bits.
Mmbear
My favorite part about âalienâ remains always seem to be humanoid in shape. Like you really think if live evolved on another planet thousands if not millions of lightyears away that they would evolve in exactly the same way as on earth to produce a bi-pedal mammal with the same biological layout as humans?
Slander7
It was even worse than that. They claimed to have extracted DNA from the remains, and they knew it was 'alien DNA' because 30% of it was unidentified.
torokunai
I enjoyed these arguments 25 years ago in alt.alien.visitors LOL. my take on it is that space-faring aliens might very well look a lot like us due to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution . . . there are good physiological reasons we have the body plan we do
androgenoide
Or they might look like crabs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinisation
Marcolorn
If the planet conditions are the same as Earth, the lifeforms would be very similar, according to evolution.
Mmbear
Only if they started from a similar base organism. Also there are major random events that largely effected evolution such as mass extinction events. Ice ages. Isolated land masses. The chances are essentially zero.
Marcolorn
It's obvious that the chances of the exact same conditions are zero. Even in similar conditions, the most advanced lifeforms would likely be bipedal vertebrates.
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
You mean to tell me that the obviously fake aliens are... fake?
justherefortheconfession
They look like a 4th grader made them in art class
androgenoide
Or, at least, someone not too familiar with anatomy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmDHF6jN9A&t=1179s
Fishkeeper
Admittedly, mummified things can look pretty weird. Not that these are actually mummies.
RedLetterMediaReactionGifs
I've seen plenty of mummies and how their anatomy shrivels over time.
Twrecks123
Pretty sure a 4th grader could do a better job.
desolatorx
Paper mache
flasgod
As a Mexican, more than a fake, those things have become a meme. We all have known maussan to be a bit of a quack and are using the pics of the aliens as memes for being too high or hungover. nothing serious to see here
Kodan00
How the hell does a known hoaxer even make it into a hearing in front of congress, let alone be allowed to cart in a faked mummy to show it off to politicians BEFORE they were scientifically analyzed and cleared?
Colopty
It was a slow week and they needed a laugh.
Babomonkey
I guess the same way a known conman gets elected president of a country.
turkizno
Apparently the hearing was not even as serious to begin with, the swearing in was just a "please don't lie" thing rather than an actual law to not lie during the hearing.
Sheldonian
Some corrections, the fraudulent mummies presented by the grifter and self-called "ufologist" Jaime Maussan, were "found" (built) in Nazca in 2016-2017 that's what he presented a few days ago "the Nazca alien mummies" that's also why there's so many ch information about the fraud
Sheldonian
*much
SteveMND
Do we know if there is evidence that Jaime is the one actually behind the creation of these fake bodies, or is he just one of those exceptionally dim individuals who will believe whatever someone shows him as long as it meets his existing expectations? He was also involved in claiming an earlier ancient mummy that was found was 'an alien,' but that turned out to be of a plain old human child.
Sheldonian
I don't know how involved he's into this specific fraud, I think they were "discovered" by someone else in Peru but I actually can't find information about how they appeared. But then Maussan got involved presenting them in the History Channel shows and his own show
NomadFeetWanderingToes
Jaime is one of those ppl who started out being serious and professional about investigating UFOs (he was an actual journalist decades go) but has staked EVERYTHING on it so much over the years he's either turned to outright grifting or he's just so desperate he'll grasp any straws floating in the wind anymore.
NaughtButOne
Meanwhile receiving little attention is that the JWST has potentially discovered methane on an exoplanet - a gas that, as far as we know, is only created by metabolic activity of living organisms.
torokunai
CH4 doesn't sound so hard to form by natural processes
Seanspeed
That's simply not true. Methane is common. Like, jesus christ, the whole blueish color of Uranus comes from its methane gas.
rumandbass
It wasn't just methane. It was dimethyl sulfide.
Seanspeed
Well that's different, obviously. lol The claim that methane is only 'created' by metabolic activity is just so clearly a false statement it's unbelievable.
rumandbass
The articles I've read on it do specify dimethyl sulfide. I think people get confused with science news as well as all the junk science news out there.
AsAHistorian
Isn't there methane on Titan, or something like that, one of those moons?
Seanspeed
Methane exists all over the solar system. Basically all the outer planets have lots of it. No idea where that person's claim is coming from.
MrSmilingDeath
Methane can also be created non-biologically, but requires water, high heat and high temperature.
MrSmilingDeath
*high pressure. Saying temperature was redundant, my brain mixes words a lot
LRADIKAL
Nope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_methane_on_Mars#Potential_sources
Revicus
Dangit!
Revicus
Nice. That's actually potentially really cool.
TheMeatIncident
There's two kinds of people in this world. Those who watch ancient aliens to laugh at the idiocy, and those who watch it and believe it's real.
ThaWhiteRanger
I get high as balls and watch it and freak myself out. Same with Ghost shows. It's just fun. Not to be taken literally
cadesama
Three kinds. You forgot the person making money off the first two idiots.
love027
Nah, the 2 kinds of people in this world are people who put others into stupid, meaningless categories and shit on their enjoyment; and those that don't.
nemocares
I'll add in a third, those who don't truly know who they are and what they believe, so they'll just watch and re-post shit looking for what the reaction is until they find a persona they feel gives them a sufficient amount of attention. Being mostly teens and adolescents this is a pretty significant demographic online.
SJBSavageInk
Omg when that person went to congress and talked about aliens tech being held by Boeing and other military contractors...I was still skeptical. My mom said it's real! Immediately, and said they found a portal on that blind frog ranch show. Lol literally everything on there can be replicated by people. đ
GraemeDynard
The idea that all religions talking about gods and angels descending from the heavens were actually talking about aliens is pretty plausible. The rest is just story fluff.
keenidiot
Gods came from the sky, from the mountains, from the underworld, from the waters, from the deserts. Or didn't come from anywhere and just were in the cities where they were worshipped.
krotuskang
I do believe in aliens and watch Ancient Aliens to learn about past cultures I never knew existed. I dont discount the ability of humans to build crazy stuff.
ilasid
I watch the show for the archeological stuff, but ignore their opinions
wingweaver415
Its the same with that stupid show ghost hunters. My ex loved that show and nothing could ever prevent me from making fun of it if i was in the room and heard that jackass host open his dumbass mouth
TheGoatEmporium
Definitely laughing. Tbf though, the very first special, before it was a series, I caught it live on History Channel back in high school. It's much more well done and not as openly cheesy and they bring up evidence/stories that are compelling enough to at least ask yourself, as the viewer, if it's real. I was watching it alone in the living room at night.
MrStealUrChange
I do believe in ancient aliens......but I see no reason to believe they ever showed up here
MechaNinja
Which kind are the jackasses that present these fake ass aliens?
PineappleLoopsBroether
To be fairâŠ. That show is on the History Channel⊠some poor dumb kid mighta had no chance
BBQatCirces
I'm the third kind. I absolutely cannot stand stupid shit like that and paranormal investigators and other dumb shit that somehow gets made.
randomwalrus
And one of those groups is incredibly racist, as only non-whites (and out group whites) are the ones who needed alien help for their deeds.
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
There are a 3rd type of people: those who don't watch it.
Marciluphigus
And those who laugh and also see that it's far more likely there are trillions of other "civilizations" throughout this Universe alone, much less looking at the possibility of a Multi-verse. Calm your ignorance, open your mind, and give Tom DeLong a goddamned apology...
wwilddoge
I want to believe
TorchMobInstigator
The alien story is more plausible than the God story. But both are weak.
jasonboison
Always yes, always
hesbeginningtobelieve
Iâm not saying these are aliens, and that show is ridiculous, but âaliensâ have been aware of our little blue rock and around for a looooong time :)
hesbeginningtobelieve
Downvote the crazy guy if you must :)
FirePrinceZuzu
Ok. Just until you show us your evidence.
hesbeginningtobelieve
Hear me out.. Magnets.. how do they work?
Akurei00
Not aliens. Miracles.
reverendbonobo
I watch it to get ideas for RPG settings.
Lalael
There's a live show coming to my town next week. I can't even imagine what people would spend money to see that. Seems like a panel show with people spouting conspiracy theories.
MerlintheRogue
Me and my wife went to see them on tour for the lulz because not a lot of events comes through Iowa. There was a dude behind us that said that this was the best day of his life, and another said he wanted to talk to them about his abduction.
NOYLL
Three kinds of people, those who never watch it.
CloseupCaptionReaction
4.. those who are high as fuck and live through the episode
Eli93
And then there's the people who listen to "It's probably not aliens" an excellent podcast about ancient aliens.
hiyesthisissatan
I stopped watching it when I realized my husband was the ladder. :(
RandomAXEofKindness
You take a drink every time they say "Ancient alien theorists say yes" and you will be loaded by the end of the episode.
RowanUnderwood
and BOTH types contribute to the problem . .
FirePrinceZuzu
Exactly!
3rdoption
I don't watch that crap. Wait... THAT MEANS I'M THE ALIEN!!!
shiggitymiggity
You might want to lay low for a while.
ThaWhiteRanger
Fuckin called it.
OtterlyDelicious
I'm the first one, it's perfect to have in the background to fall asleep to đ
moomaid1
I'm out like a light before they have given me the first ridiculous notion.
CuntCrotchula
I watch it with the intention of laughing, and then by the end I'm pissed off. Like i can handle the absurd claims, but they'll make a claim and then make another claim 5 mimites later thats completely contradictory
rshini
I get pissed because it's fucking racist from top down
CuntCrotchula
Well heave you ever seen brown people build something cool? Checkmate, lib /s
Lampmonster
Yeah I've tried, it's too terrible. Their logic fails on its face, like before they get past the introduction.
CelebRP
I don't think I've ever said "Fuck OFF! No it's not!" more times than if I ever watch Ancient Aliens :D
joe6paques
Seriously â have some self-respect, guys!
MerlintheRogue
I watch it with that same intention, but I end up getting a massive headache trying to rationalize their logic.
Radix865
I just got tired of the repetition that is in almost all similar "fact" shows from US. It feels like they're talking to a fucking goldfish.
Radix865
I did like laughing at the stupid "theories" though, but the repetition made me feel like I was losing braincells...
ButtersTheCat
They crack me up by how certain they are. They're just confidently asserting complete bullshit, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up, like it's been proven as fact.
Sweatyfireballs
My favorite thing to do is during an episode I try to find where they lose me. Especially in earlier episodes they would usually build a solid foundation for the episode, almost believable. Then at some point in every episode they would just open the flood gates. I love trying to find where the episode allows the batshit dam to break open.
billstranger
But, but, but...THE NAZCA LINES tho!
VibratingNipples
I do believe aliens are real but I don't watch Ancient Aliens. I want undeniable proof that they exist. Not some grainy videos, photos or some kind of marks on a stone wall.
Drix1942
Also there's a possibility that the "alien spaceships" are from Earth, from another species more advanced than us.
VibratingNipples
it also a possibility that they're us from the future
Drix1942
"Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your contributions to our Time Zoo Foundation. Now, look out the window; to your left you can see how we fucked the environment to oblivion, lol."
AlexKeed
The famous "Shut up you fucking explorer of unknown things, shit's burning yo" argument. I don't think the whole technology that allows us to have this conversation could exist if dreamers didn't dream.
CSlice06
I will say the first few episodes or first season is a bit compelling, how all across the ancient world, at the same time, different civilizations all individually decided to start worshiping a similar sky god at the same time. Makes you think maybe aliens did visits Earthâs peoples and this was their interpretation of the aliens (viewing them as sky gods). After that, though, everything on the show is trash.
noneofthemknewtheywererobots
Agreed. The first season was interesting. After that it fell apart.
TastyBrainMeats
Even if that were the case, which I tend to doubt, then there are SO many simpler, more plausible explanations than "aliens". Could have been solar flares! Could have been a weird storm season or two! Could have been a lot of things!
LoudBirb
"All over the world" and "at the same time" are both incredibly wrong on their face, so I don't know that that's very compelling. Even if it were true, the hypothesis that it was "aliens" would be just as free of actual evidence as that it was "god(s)". It's equally silly to assume either.
Rpgjgb
But the gods WERE ancient Aliens! The primitive peoples of the world just didn't recognize them as such and after all, wht would you call a being that descended from the sky in a column of fire and smoke, if not a god?! You need to watch more episodes to see the TRUTH! /s
LoudBirb
Thank you for not forgetting the /s. Poe's law and all that.
CSlice06
Yeah so thereâs not actually a lot of evidence of anything from thousands of years ago and Iâm just saying they made a compelling argument based on the info that is available. If you think aliens are real at all then this idea shouldnât be seen as âsillyâ. It could be true, which doesnât mean it necessarily IS true.
LoudBirb
There's tons of evidence of stuff from 1,000 years ago. My issue is that "aliens" are a "god of the gaps" argument. People trying to use something for which there's no evidence at all to explain gaps in knowledge is silly, regardless of what they believe in. Even sillier when there is no knowledge gap, and they just didn't know we already have an answer.
keenidiot
No they presented just enough evidence to seem credible. There's a difference. There's a reason most of their claims are really hard to track down.
SubTrout
Hey younger folks! This isn't a dig on you, just some info from an older fuck: Shit like this used to be relegated to tabloid papers like Weekly World News that were basically sold as joke papers at newsstands and grocery checkouts. This is what the first Men in Black movie was making fun of. They didn't used to post it to news sites like obvious bullshit nonsense like this could be true.
joot
They didnât used to give formal government testimony about it, either. Try to grasp the difference.
Iwannaseeit
Sorry to shit on the other person's parade: it isn't about critical thinking or fact-checking by kids. Higher ups want more money, which means more clicks, which means everyone needs to generate bullshit to try to pull views
PennsylvaniaPalindrome
Critical thinking and fact-checking need to go back into the curriculum.
SubTrout
Can "Building Your Bullshit Alarm" be an elective please?
OhIfIMust
No, it needs to be core curriculum, and taught WAY earlier.
Seanspeed
It needs to be like a regular class, that gets more advanced as you grow up. Critical thinking isn't just something you learn and then 'have'. It needs to be continually developed and importantly practiced and maintained. It's a skill, not just knowledge.
SubTrout
Boy, just imagine the manbaby crying from conservatives about "liberal thought police" classes teaching kids to... use factual sources and critical thinking. I feel like we'd get into that situation where a pre-Musk twitter said they couldn't use bots to filter out hate speech, because it would ban right wing politicians using the same algorithms.