I live in a small town near buffalo. Can confirm. about 5% of the cops around here are decent human beings who actually serve and care about their communities, the rest are absolute cocks who try to do everything they can to fuck your shit up in some way. I know ACAB but some in my town are genuinely great people doing good things and being helpful, understanding, kind and lenient.
In high school got pulled over. Didnt realize a friend left a roach in my glove compartment. Cop saw it when I was getting registration etc. They cuff me for DWI and proceed to toss everything around in my car. Threw everything out of my book bag (including exploding my graphing calculator) to find nothing but that roach
Part of why you should never consent to a search is they will just trash your car while doing it. Also make sure to say "I do not consent to a search" since they like to phrase the question in a "Do your parents know you're gay" way
I really wonder why citizens in the USA tolerate that. I lived for two years in the USA and I told people already then that in Europe you never have to subdue to Police.
Remember kids, the answer to "may i search your vehicle?" Is "i do not permit you to search my vehicle" unless of course you really feel like picking up your belongings off the side of the road. This kind of ACAB behavior is very common.
Was once pulled over in my at the time brand new pickup truck. They broke the center console by opening and basically ripping it off. I was never charged with anything I was never told why I was pulled over, and to top it all off, I was a white dude in the south. Can only imagine what bullshittery people of color deal with.
Had a couple cops do this to me when I was 18 (21 yrs ago). They didn't find anything, and told me I was free to go. I asked for the badge number of the one that did it, then said I'd turn him in to his supervisor for littering if he left it there. His partner laughed his ass off and made him pick it all up and put it back in my car.
Picking up? Dude, they will tear the upholstery apart looking for something to pin on you and you wouldn't be able to complain because you "consented" to the search.
This is definitely true, but also any criminal defense attorney will tell you that you should consider the constitution basically suspended while you're driving your car. They'll make up a reason to search it, and it doesn't take nearly as much when it's a car instead of a home.
True, but denying them permission opens them up to litigation if they fuck up their shady "technically legal" bullshit workarounds.
Either way you're getting your shit dumped out on the street, but at least this way there's a non-0 chance you end up getting a payout from the city for it.
"Reasonable suspicion" and "probable cause" are purposefully vague. It's generally explained as being something obvious (like a crack pipe on the seat). Usually, it's just them saying you seemed high, or maybe there's some dirt on your floorboards that could potentially be pot if you squinthard enough to blur your vision while looking at it from a distance. It's a convenient excuse they can use whenever they want, by lying about what they saw or how they perceived your behavior.
Yup. Congressman Joe Kennedy III (yes, from *those* Kennedys) advocated against marijuana legalization because it would remove an easy pretext that piece of shit pig motherfuckers could use to justify a search. Remember that anytime anyone tells you that Democrats favor piece of shit pig motherfucker accountability or reform.
I have a couple of genuine questions, since I haven't been a victim of ACAB behavior yet. 1) Do cops really ask for permission or do they just order you around? 2) Is this likely to stop them or is it more of a way to establish grounds for a subsequent lawsuit against them?
They ask questions in statements form. It’s not “can I?” It’s “I need to” and at the point it’s the responsibility of yourself to know your rights. And no you’re not going to get shot or whatever. I’m assuming this situation the lady was being a petty little shit and the cops sunk to her level. They shouldn’t, but everyone is an asshole in 2026
They ask for permission in ways that discourage you from saying no, but some will just ~do~ things and fuck everyone over, including prosecutors that would have to try the case in court
The answer ANY time a search of your car comes up is "No, you may not search my car." That's it. I've been asked to have my car searched, while on my way to church, dressed nice.
The fact that Qualified Immunity prevent the enforcement of a constitutional right tells you all you need to know about the *actual* power of the US constitution to protect you.
Frankly I think the fact that they didn't find anything and drove away without cleaning up their mess is prima facie evidence that the search was unreasonable... and they sure as hell didn't have a warrant issued upon probable cause
No, it's a way of explaining why these fuckers felt the need to do what they did with full impunity. THing is, even if they found crack or other in there, and they took her away for that, would it be any better as well?
I noticed the same. But the car next to her with the flashers on has a passenger and no driver. My guess is she was pulled over and they didn't find whatever the hell they were looking for. Then they took off from a likely undocumented/officiated stop.
okay, that works too. Thought that was odd they might have been harrassing a woman who might be homeless, or at least having to take her laundry by hand. I can see WHY they would want to search, that's likely a good spot to hide shit, but without a warrant or probable cause...*shrug*
No respect, no excuses, throwing the basket and not tidying their mess in the end is a despicable attitude. WTF were they looking for ? Dirty panties, drugs, explosives ? I remember once i got angry at a police control in France, i started undressing in the street and throwing angrily my clothes on the ground, the cops played down and it went well, they saw i was mad as hell and anything could happen. (i was being played with after quitting my adults teacher job)
psmith00
welcome to America, the Police State. they could have fined her for littering after that.
richardstinks
Bullies with guns and a superiority complex.
Slugsie
(checks notes) Ah yes, doing laundry while black. Straight to prison.
Relictivity
The way he tosses the laundry basket and walks off is so arrogant. Fire that disrespectful asshole. He’s a threat to the community.
FuManLu
I think it was because he didn't find the drugs he was wanting to find
CedricDur
America is wild.
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
It's not just the US, people need to open their eyes more
wd12aadvwaa
Passive aggressive outrage is still just social media thoughts and prayers
Jamesstin
Just because you take this passively doesn't mean others are
egoAristippos
Vote then! You need reps that do something about it.
Durgon8tr
fucking assholes. that's harassment!
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
that'll teach her for whatever she did to annoy those cops! like existing, maybe?
newwoolmonosta
thats a shit-gobbler’s move, that is.
flordelasantillas
Racists cops. Higher ups will see this and promote one or both.
enderite
They just need to start getting got.
I have very little patience left for our species. Time to start culling.
VinnyVeritas
Assholes
Blunderwriter
At least she lives another day to do laundry again. Right?
CHARCHIMUS
I live in a small town near buffalo. Can confirm. about 5% of the cops around here are decent human beings who actually serve and care about their communities, the rest are absolute cocks who try to do everything they can to fuck your shit up in some way. I know ACAB but some in my town are genuinely great people doing good things and being helpful, understanding, kind and lenient.
SavageDrums
ACAB just for the "fun" of it.
FelonyRaptor
"To bully and to humiliate"
ButtscratchMcPherson
Christ, what a bunch of cops.
philmoregraves
In high school got pulled over. Didnt realize a friend left a roach in my glove compartment. Cop saw it when I was getting registration etc. They cuff me for DWI and proceed to toss everything around in my car. Threw everything out of my book bag (including exploding my graphing calculator) to find nothing but that roach
Roqinn
I live how they just dump her clothes on the road and then get in their vehicles to leave. What was the actual point of this stop?
AverySillyName
Part of why you should never consent to a search is they will just trash your car while doing it. Also make sure to say "I do not consent to a search" since they like to phrase the question in a "Do your parents know you're gay" way
egoAristippos
I really wonder why citizens in the USA tolerate that. I lived for two years in the USA and I told people already then that in Europe you never have to subdue to Police.
You pay them with your tax they serve you!
funone77
Remember kids, the answer to "may i search your vehicle?" Is "i do not permit you to search my vehicle" unless of course you really feel like picking up your belongings off the side of the road. This kind of ACAB behavior is very common.
DragonThunderUndertaking
Was once pulled over in my at the time brand new pickup truck. They broke the center console by opening and basically ripping it off. I was never charged with anything I was never told why I was pulled over, and to top it all off, I was a white dude in the south. Can only imagine what bullshittery people of color deal with.
theshinobi23
Had a couple cops do this to me when I was 18 (21 yrs ago). They didn't find anything, and told me I was free to go. I asked for the badge number of the one that did it, then said I'd turn him in to his supervisor for littering if he left it there. His partner laughed his ass off and made him pick it all up and put it back in my car.
InnerBushman
Picking up? Dude, they will tear the upholstery apart looking for something to pin on you and you wouldn't be able to complain because you "consented" to the search.
CatMeme37
Not just your belongings. A friend let the police search his vehicle and they left the seats on the ground.
funone77
Yup. Search and disassemble are synonyms to cops.
thanatos777
This is definitely true, but also any criminal defense attorney will tell you that you should consider the constitution basically suspended while you're driving your car. They'll make up a reason to search it, and it doesn't take nearly as much when it's a car instead of a home.
LoudBirb
True, but denying them permission opens them up to litigation if they fuck up their shady "technically legal" bullshit workarounds.
Either way you're getting your shit dumped out on the street, but at least this way there's a non-0 chance you end up getting a payout from the city for it.
theshinobi23
"Reasonable suspicion" and "probable cause" are purposefully vague. It's generally explained as being something obvious (like a crack pipe on the seat). Usually, it's just them saying you seemed high, or maybe there's some dirt on your floorboards that could potentially be pot if you squinthard enough to blur your vision while looking at it from a distance. It's a convenient excuse they can use whenever they want, by lying about what they saw or how they perceived your behavior.
thanatos777
Yup. Congressman Joe Kennedy III (yes, from *those* Kennedys) advocated against marijuana legalization because it would remove an easy pretext that piece of shit pig motherfuckers could use to justify a search. Remember that anytime anyone tells you that Democrats favor piece of shit pig motherfucker accountability or reform.
WoeToHice
I have a couple of genuine questions, since I haven't been a victim of ACAB behavior yet. 1) Do cops really ask for permission or do they just order you around? 2) Is this likely to stop them or is it more of a way to establish grounds for a subsequent lawsuit against them?
ThinkThisOut
They ask questions in statements form. It’s not “can I?” It’s “I need to” and at the point it’s the responsibility of yourself to know your rights. And no you’re not going to get shot or whatever. I’m assuming this situation the lady was being a petty little shit and the cops sunk to her level. They shouldn’t, but everyone is an asshole in 2026
WhyDontYouMakeMe
They ask for permission in ways that discourage you from saying no, but some will just ~do~ things and fuck everyone over, including prosecutors that would have to try the case in court
Jimmah1
They ask permission but like to intimidate you into doing it. Then they completely go through your car, often breaking shit to find nothing.
Not all of them will do this, but none of them will call it out.
xxPaulCPxx
The answer ANY time a search of your car comes up is "No, you may not search my car." That's it.
I've been asked to have my car searched, while on my way to church, dressed nice.
penclnck
Paid vacations are not handed out freely, they are earned.
MajorNikon
4th amendment violation proves cops hate the Constitution after swearing an oath to uphold it
livingonagiantfireball
Breaking the constitution as a cop shpuld be a minimum mandatory 1 year jail + being blocked from ever having a job as cop.
scout27302
They don’t know what’s in the constitution. Very similar to tfg’s swearing in.
necessity
The fact that Qualified Immunity prevent the enforcement of a constitutional right tells you all you need to know about the *actual* power of the US constitution to protect you.
bippityboppitybuttsex
They also write 'to serve and protect' on the side of their vehicles while having no duty of care to anyone (exceptions apply).
MajorNikon
They just forgot to put (other cops only) in the fine print
bippityboppitybuttsex
And they only mean the cops that maintain the Blue Code of Silence.
TheMoonBnuuy
Frankly I think the fact that they didn't find anything and drove away without cleaning up their mess is prima facie evidence that the search was unreasonable...
and they sure as hell didn't have a warrant issued upon probable cause
boxbackknitties
Seems like a lawsuit.
20MB13
And a ticket fot littering
TheMoonBnuuy
qualified immunity says the lawsuit is unlikely to work
DeadWhiteMale
Buffalo Police Commissioner Erika Shields defended Deputy Commissioner Craig Macy. Somehow she thinks what he did was justified.
bigdix69420
That looks like a lot of stuff not just laundry
friendsofsandwiches
Might be homeless or semi homeless.
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
Does that make it better somehow?
friendsofsandwiches
No, it's a way of explaining why these fuckers felt the need to do what they did with full impunity. THing is, even if they found crack or other in there, and they took her away for that, would it be any better as well?
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
Ok good good. Douchey in any context really. Homeless ppl have rights still obviously. Cops suck
guitarfourtysix
I noticed the same. But the car next to her with the flashers on has a passenger and no driver. My guess is she was pulled over and they didn't find whatever the hell they were looking for. Then they took off from a likely undocumented/officiated stop.
friendsofsandwiches
okay, that works too. Thought that was odd they might have been harrassing a woman who might be homeless, or at least having to take her laundry by hand.
I can see WHY they would want to search, that's likely a good spot to hide shit, but without a warrant or probable cause...*shrug*
friendsofsandwiches
Well was she causing any sort of disturbance?
Or was it, "oh, homeless lady, need to check for crack"?
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friendsofsandwiches
Kinda like stopping you and then asking "you know why I stopped you?" Or even better, 'where ya going?'
Frencheeseater
No respect, no excuses, throwing the basket and not tidying their mess in the end is a despicable attitude. WTF were they looking for ? Dirty panties, drugs, explosives ?
I remember once i got angry at a police control in France, i started undressing in the street and throwing angrily my clothes on the ground, the cops played down and it went well, they saw i was mad as hell and anything could happen. (i was being played with after quitting my adults teacher job)