Having been in the service industry for a thousand years, it’s not an age thing. I’ve served ladies who were waitresses 60 years ago that still tidy up their spot. Messy and careless people are always there. That’s why you get somebody who serves tables now and somebody who did it forever ago the stories often are similar. You recall good tables,bad tables, and the weird ones in between
Yep, moreover, after dinner service I go upstairs and run the kitchen on the rooftop patio at a Gen Z focused restaurant and, aha, it ain't at all like this.
I'll be honest, I've never stacked up dishes before leaving a restaurant. Having said that, I've never had to do any of it, because servers always clean up long before I leave. I'll just be sitting there, talking with whomever I'm with, while finishing my drink and served just pick up empty dishes whenever they pass by and notice one.
I'm not from the US, though, so not sure if that makes a difference.
As an American that has eaten in a half dozen or so European countries, the experience is fairly different. It's a lot faster paced in the states, and the system of tips definitely changes the game. There is a cultural element of "I can't linger here if I'm not buying" that a lot of Americans have. Europeans seem a lot more casual about it, in my experience.
Well the experience for me is that if you're out for food with someone, you eat, then maybe finish it all off by ordering a coffee. So the main food plates have already been tidied up (of which you usually help the staff with collection because it's convenient)
It's like the difference between someone that's worked retail and someone who hasn't. Those who have will return the item they changed their mind on back to it's place on the shelf vs the person that hasn't and will place it whatever it's convenient.
My mom's a boomer and she ALWAYS likes to clean up the table herself a bit before leaving. Stacking the dishes a bit, wiping the area around her plate, putting all the silverware on the topmost plate. It's like she can't help herself. I do the same since otherwise I feel guilty.
Blame a generation for personal shit? Oh yeah I forgot when we went to Woodstock and told everyone it was a "Rock Concert" when in reality we all planned on how to fuck future generations. Our evil plan is working, they are so dumb they blame people based on age rather than as individuals.
Last time I went out for dinner it was around 200 euro for 4 people. A basket of garlic bread, 4 mains nothing weird like the most expensive cut of meat/fish. Just 'middle of the menu' items, 6 drinks (soda's) and a few scoops of ice as dessert. Two... hundred... euros. I can eat a whole month from that.
The weirdest (or most remembered) interaction I’ve ever had at a restaurant was at The Melting Pot. We had finished eating and had cleaned everything up and the waitress came with the check, and then she said “Oh, I’m going to wait while you sign. People that clean up the table always steal my pen.” 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
When I was 17 I started my first job as a dishwasher. We were out to eat one night and I started stacking the dishes to make it easier on the whole staff and my dad kinda yelled at me because that’s the servers job. My dad didn’t even tip 15%.
Also seen waitstaff comment that they prefer if you don't stack unless you've done tables before... because people think they are helping but servers have a way they want things stacked, and people usually do it wrong
Millennial with 3 kids. Always pre-buss, always be respectful, always tip 20% minimum. To be fair though my wife and I have both been FOH and BOH before.
Basic human decency knows no generations. 1. Don't leave work for others. 2. Put your shopping cart in the corral. 3. Don't be a jerk to those less fortunate than yourself. 4. Never tease anyone for their family name or for physical characteristics they have no control over. 5. Different, not less. (Temple Grandin)
I started doing that as a kid and got my dad doing it and my mom would tell us to stop. Especially at Chinese restaurants they laugh and love it. After working 10+ years in the industry and I def do this still.
Absolutely. And while I agree with what you stated, verbatim, let's ensure your words don't get twisted into "I'm still going to eat out, it's not my job to subsidize decent wages" - Avoid restaurants out of principle if you're not going to tip because often it ends up hurting the wait staff due to tipout or tip sharing with the BOH.
We were taking in another post about munchkin cats & I saw you here. I’m also Gen X & even though this is disappointing, Gen X is the LEAST POPULATED generation, so, our influence is much smaller. Blaming us for trump is disingenuous when the effects of the much larger groups: Boomers, Millennials & Gen Z voting for trump is staggering. I also like to say we belong in the RAREST of generations, lol.
But, Gen X is the least populated generation. It’s disingenuous to blame them for trump when the effects from the much larger groups: boomers, millennials & Gen z voting for trump is staggering.
I'm Gen X & blaming us, the absolute LEAST POPULATED GENERATION is stupid. If you look at millennials, a much larger generation, and the other larger generations like boomers & gen z, the effects from them voting for trump is much larger.
But, Gen X is the SMALLEST (least populated) generation. It's disingenuous to blame the least populated group for what's happening. The effects from boomers, millennials & Gen Z voting for trump is much more staggering.
I worked at a restaurant, but I don't stack anything as a customer cause I'm worried about being "too helpful". One person's perfect organization system is another person's chaotic nightmare.
100%. I personally do a bit of gathering and tidying, because that seems like just basic courtesy. My partner (who has worked food service pretty much all their life) regularly goes through easily ten times as much effort wiping things down and stacking everything.
Yeah I don't know the busboy's preference so I just make sure that all the dishes are towards the end and all table fixtures are back in their place. I worked at a grocery store for 6 years, all I ever asked was don't damage things, anything else I get paid for dealing with.
This is the truth. People who tip without bitching and organize their mess worked as servers and thus appreviate how hard the job is. It's not about age.
More phony intergenerational conflict. The 1% is your enemy, not boomers. You think GenXer Jared Kushner cares if you live or die?
Change your statement to " If you have the means to tip but choose not to on "principal" while dining in the US then I don't like you" as things are not the same the world over.
Icantrecall
Vague generalization. But the arrows help the blind.
GetHimABodybag
Having been in the service industry for a thousand years, it’s not an age thing. I’ve served ladies who were waitresses 60 years ago that still tidy up their spot. Messy and careless people are always there. That’s why you get somebody who serves tables now and somebody who did it forever ago the stories often are similar. You recall good tables,bad tables, and the weird ones in between
DOcelot1
I always clear up. It's only polite. I'm a Boomer btw
OldBikerDude
I call BS. Technically I am a boomer, and I always stack our shit. And I don't harass wait staff, or customer facing people. Ever.
CogentMoment
My dad's a boomer and he has done this since I was little. Some people just don't care, regardless of age.
Arcygenical
Yep, moreover, after dinner service I go upstairs and run the kitchen on the rooftop patio at a Gen Z focused restaurant and, aha, it ain't at all like this.
camn333
I'll be honest, I've never stacked up dishes before leaving a restaurant. Having said that, I've never had to do any of it, because servers always clean up long before I leave. I'll just be sitting there, talking with whomever I'm with, while finishing my drink and served just pick up empty dishes whenever they pass by and notice one.
I'm not from the US, though, so not sure if that makes a difference.
plantpr0n
As an American that has eaten in a half dozen or so European countries, the experience is fairly different. It's a lot faster paced in the states, and the system of tips definitely changes the game. There is a cultural element of "I can't linger here if I'm not buying" that a lot of Americans have. Europeans seem a lot more casual about it, in my experience.
Omnimorph2112
Well the experience for me is that if you're out for food with someone, you eat, then maybe finish it all off by ordering a coffee. So the main food plates have already been tidied up (of which you usually help the staff with collection because it's convenient)
5omeWhiteGuy
am millennial. Im also in the picture on the right.
QuigleyDownUnder
It's like the difference between someone that's worked retail and someone who hasn't. Those who have will return the item they changed their mind on back to it's place on the shelf vs the person that hasn't and will place it whatever it's convenient.
QuigleyDownUnder
I've found packets of raw chicken in with the magazines. Fucking animals!
sarahsaurroar
My mom's a boomer and she ALWAYS likes to clean up the table herself a bit before leaving. Stacking the dishes a bit, wiping the area around her plate, putting all the silverware on the topmost plate. It's like she can't help herself. I do the same since otherwise I feel guilty.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
My mom's same way.
Arcygenical
100% I swear my mom would sweep and mop the bathrooms if the restaurant would let her.
Polymathena
Identity politics trap. Divide and conquer. People can suck in infinite ways. It is fatal to fall for this.
donsterkay
Blame a generation for personal shit? Oh yeah I forgot when we went to Woodstock and told everyone it was a "Rock Concert" when in reality we all planned on how to fuck future generations. Our evil plan is working, they are so dumb they blame people based on age rather than as individuals.
GrandmasterSpank
Last time I went out for dinner it was around 200 euro for 4 people. A basket of garlic bread, 4 mains nothing weird like the most expensive cut of meat/fish. Just 'middle of the menu' items, 6 drinks (soda's) and a few scoops of ice as dessert. Two... hundred... euros. I can eat a whole month from that.
PeaceOnEarthGoodPornToAll
The weirdest (or most remembered) interaction I’ve ever had at a restaurant was at The Melting Pot. We had finished eating and had cleaned everything up and the waitress came with the check, and then she said “Oh, I’m going to wait while you sign. People that clean up the table always steal my pen.” 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
pelon77Cleveland
When I was 17 I started my first job as a dishwasher. We were out to eat one night and I started stacking the dishes to make it easier on the whole staff and my dad kinda yelled at me because that’s the servers job. My dad didn’t even tip 15%.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
Also seen waitstaff comment that they prefer if you don't stack unless you've done tables before... because people think they are helping but servers have a way they want things stacked, and people usually do it wrong
Bubbertubs
Millennial with 3 kids. Always pre-buss, always be respectful, always tip 20% minimum. To be fair though my wife and I have both been FOH and BOH before.
woozle
"come on, Brenda. Church is over. We need to hurry up and go be cunts to the staff at IHop"
Thresholdpush
My wife is GM of a large restaurant. She'll attest to this very thing.
Chattafaukup
I have been guilty of both depending on my service.
ASERIOUSGOOSE
Basic human decency knows no generations.
1. Don't leave work for others.
2. Put your shopping cart in the corral.
3. Don't be a jerk to those less fortunate than yourself.
4. Never tease anyone for their family name or for physical characteristics they have no control over.
5. Different, not less. (Temple Grandin)
flamedance58
I started doing that as a kid and got my dad doing it and my mom would tell us to stop. Especially at Chinese restaurants they laugh and love it. After working 10+ years in the industry and I def do this still.
frenofafren
You guys can still afford to eat out?
majortool
If you have to pay for it, I wouldn't recommend eating it out.
Newitt
If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat out.
Metallica93
A good reason not to eat out, honestly. It's not the consumer's job to pay decent wages for companies that don't.
Arcygenical
Absolutely. And while I agree with what you stated, verbatim, let's ensure your words don't get twisted into "I'm still going to eat out, it's not my job to subsidize decent wages" - Avoid restaurants out of principle if you're not going to tip because often it ends up hurting the wait staff due to tipout or tip sharing with the BOH.
CloudStrife668
I tip, because Mr Blue was right.......servers make shit for regular paycheck.
CloudStrife668
Less you work at a country club or something of that nature.
CloudStrife668
https://youtu.be/M4sTSIYzDIk?si=emMH6RzuGmxBo8Ms
Makerofthingsmasherofstuff
Just my girlfriend
macrolet
I also choose this guy's wife.
frozenbabylon
As a Gen X, we're the one who taught Z the way to do it.
PapaUbu
wargames
you mean the generation that went hardest for trump?
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
frozenbabylon
Damn. I didn't know that. I'm disappointed in my generation.
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
We were taking in another post about munchkin cats & I saw you here. I’m also Gen X & even though this is disappointing, Gen X is the LEAST POPULATED generation, so, our influence is much smaller. Blaming us for trump is disingenuous when the effects of the much larger groups: Boomers, Millennials & Gen Z voting for trump is staggering. I also like to say we belong in the RAREST of generations, lol.
frozenbabylon
THANK YOU! That makes me feel a little better. Haha.
lackadaisycull
I wanna hate this statement, but I looked up the stats and made myself sad: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzl7zygpmo
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
But, Gen X is the least populated generation. It’s disingenuous to blame them for trump when the effects from the much larger groups: boomers, millennials & Gen z voting for trump is staggering.
wargames
I know it turbo sucks, but they are the generation that huffed the highest amount of lead.
Gragnor
I assure you we did not.
Housemaster
wargames
facts dont lie https://jjmilt.substack.com/p/how-gen-x-delivered-the-election
Gragnor
I'll take a look at that. Thanks!
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
I'm Gen X & blaming us, the absolute LEAST POPULATED GENERATION is stupid. If you look at millennials, a much larger generation, and the other larger generations like boomers & gen z, the effects from them voting for trump is much larger.
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
But, Gen X is the SMALLEST (least populated) generation. It's disingenuous to blame the least populated group for what's happening. The effects from boomers, millennials & Gen Z voting for trump is much more staggering.
UncleRat
It isn't generational; it's people who haven't worked in food service and those of us who have.
halcyon742
Yeeeppppppppp
UNHchabo
I worked at a restaurant, but I don't stack anything as a customer cause I'm worried about being "too helpful". One person's perfect organization system is another person's chaotic nightmare.
robotlaserninjashark
It’s also about whether you can sympathize with the realities of anyone other than yourself.
Gragnor
^^ And those of us who aren't savages.
LespritDeLescalier22
I see you are a person of culture
Smidge204
And those of us with some measurable amount of OCD...
GentryFriedRichFillets
Don't forget those of us with guilt issues!
CheesecakePi
100%. I personally do a bit of gathering and tidying, because that seems like just basic courtesy. My partner (who has worked food service pretty much all their life) regularly goes through easily ten times as much effort wiping things down and stacking everything.
FishieStardust
And also remember if you do stack, stack in a helpful way. So silverware isn't sliding, trash is kind of contained
peeopeepeee
Yeah I don't know the busboy's preference so I just make sure that all the dishes are towards the end and all table fixtures are back in their place. I worked at a grocery store for 6 years, all I ever asked was don't damage things, anything else I get paid for dealing with.
glovelyday
This is the truth. People who tip without bitching and organize their mess worked as servers and thus appreviate how hard the job is. It's not about age.
More phony intergenerational conflict. The 1% is your enemy, not boomers. You think GenXer Jared Kushner cares if you live or die?
cptcr
he's a millennial.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Jared is quite literally the arse end of Gen X.
mycatwontletmeclosemybedroomdoor
Can some of us former busboys get some love?
glovelyday
You should have been getting a cut. Where I worked it was 10% from each server.
mycatwontletmeclosemybedroomdoor
I got 15% but some of the servers would snatch the tips and say they got stiffed. My hourly was .62/hour.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
I don't care about who my enemies are or what they think of me, if you don't tip then I don't like you.
CogentMoment
Change your statement to " If you have the means to tip but choose not to on "principal" while dining in the US then I don't like you" as things are not the same the world over.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
Same thing.
CogentMoment
Yes, your world is the only world