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arrkay
This doesn't seem that much safer than the way police used to ram people off the road.
klar971
"Deploy the fuck you strap!"
Darthajack
Haha, looks like a good prank!
ChiefMasterAirmanFirstClassSelectInCharge
Did somebody say Bonkers?
KeeleonOhms
TOTALLY NUTS!
CaptainOfCrunch
PrivateNoodles
Shake and bake
Yorou
How out-of-control-dangerous can your car get when entangled like that?
Cataleast
Less than what the alternatives do. The car in front also gets tethered to the police car, who can just gradually bring the car to a halt.
kuriosly
Cept for the single wheel breaking issue.
SinsOftheErectPhoenix
cool but we need googly eyes people. i need googly eyes!!
thecanadianhero
XelaDarks
Shark Tank years ago.
fisop20
7.62mm still exists people
MrOni
Yeah, just fire a bunch of rounds, way safer. Police are so well trained with firearms as it is....perfect
Pauu3r
will this also work on USSR nuclear submarine?
overnopethousand
Well the cars either stopped or continued on in a very sweet drift
yotsuya
Just don't get greedy with your target:
DoSheGotTheJetSkiSeaDoo
Neat, but definitely not new.
mellino19
The 2001 Tahoe gives it away (unless they just need a cheap mule to mount the device to)
Caiusj
This is actually a pretty clever idea
circlebreaker
Considering that Police typically panic so bad that they can't hit the broadside of a barn w/o firing 10+ rounds, I don't think it will work
kaztas
Actually Police seem to do better with driving. PIT maneuvers need skill to pull off too,
AlIYourBaseAreBelongToUs
If they were chasing me ( what would never happen ), then I would brake really hard before they deploy it and let them crash in the back ;)
Mithi
You are not the sharpest tool in the shed, aren't ya? The offsett hit from the cop car will send you spinning as well.
Gorgrim
You know pulling over would have the same effect, right?
squirrelfury
That would accomplish what exactly?
Damaging the rig, before it can be properly deployed.
That would likely damage your car also, with high possibility that it would stop running. It would also let them catch up to you.
The car he follows is a 'chunky' 4x4 that can take quite a hit from the rear, before it becomes incapacitated. I would risk it.
But I also would never come to a point where they would want to stop me in that manner! So this is all purely hypothetical of course.
HoonHoonSaysMoonbeam
Great for stopping professional drivers on a closed track...
Wazzamaniac
That seems dangerous
More so than a PIT maneuver or blowing someone's tires with a spike strip and having them blast away on the freeway on just rims? :)
Crime IS dangerous...
billymaditsdone
This has been out for a looooong time. For some reason, the police are not using it. Might be dangerous in some way or still in testing.
Politics......SOMEBODY'S not getting enough of a kickback.
themooseof603
probably because locking up a wheel can make a driver lose control which would lead to injured bystanders
I'm pretty sure it's still being developed and improved, not to mention the amount of red tape it has to go through. Nonetheless, it's ->
a significantly better option than PITing or spike strips, regardless of what the Internet High Speed Chase Professionals will tell you :)
HumpbackWhale89
I still prefer the Swedish way http://thechive.com/2012/04/30/if-youre-ever-involved-in-a-swedish-police-chase-pull-over-8-hq-photos/
imbapro
Just press "stop" quickly after photos are loaded and the paywall never loads :P
pigwitz
Volvos are badass
bisqwit
Paywall / loginwall.
DrDadJokes
Can we have this thing made for fudget spinners?
rabidkitty4
Mmmmm, fudge...
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
Use your fingers.
klubai4
Add razorblades for additional learning effect.
kilmore
TRY AND STOP ME!
Crazywelderguy
man, he just keeps hitting that ramp, over and over.
Smarterthanyoureaveragebeer
do you ever take it off any sweet jumps
"Those Duke Boys are at it again..."
BSUCLA
ryandickens
Mighty ducks
Treblaine
DashingThroughTheNope
"he says his name is RALPH'
BarfTittiesGalore
Great flick (The Chase, IIRC)
PAPASQUATT
Malcom in the middle
Plus one shows what I know geez
DefinitelyNotDavidDuchovny
Love that episode of Malcolm in the Middle
killroy225
Which episode was that?
Somewhere in season 2. Reese is learning to get his license
Tsamane
The faster we're falling, We're stopping and stalling
CharlesOConnor
I love fucking goats but to each his own.
"I love fucking goats" and "I fucking love goats" mean 2 different things...
Which ever states beastiality is the one i intended.
I love this comment, but 'the fuck do I know about goats.
ragingzealot
This will last until somebody careens into a bystander and the police get sued.
DamnedAustin
Which is why it likely wouldn't be used in a situation where bystanders are present. Police are already careful about when they use (1)
spikes and PIT maneuvers, this isn't very different. (2/2)
Kaydiddilybro
It caused damage to one of the vehicles at least from what it looks like to me. How couldn't the police be sued for that?
if you wipe out a tire a vehicle can jerk causing a loss of control injuring nearby drivers and pedestrians
SpartaWillBurn
The police aren't deploying this for the normal traffic stop. This is used if the person is a danger to others.
Then again, the situation is significantly more controlled than a PIT or a spike strip.
Dunno. Single wheel lockup is a bit less controlled then a spike strip.
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
significantly less controlled. single wheel tire or brake failures at high speed would be catastrophic especially in a high CG vehicle.
What is it with people thinking this is going to be used as often as the lights and siren? You have an entire cop car attached to 1/
the perp's car. still dangerous, but safer than pitting. this has a right time to use just like the pit or spike strips.
SpectralFringe
once the straps hook to the wheel, they are released from the cop's car allowing him to safely retreat
Nah, it's a tool which can be deployed when the situation is right. Worse case, they increase restrictions on deployment
are there a lot of highway chases in unpopulated straight stretches of road where you live?
Are there a lot of idiots where you live, or just you?
most highway chases occur in populated areas, where this would be super dangerous therefore it's all but useless in the real world
Most ≠ All. So as I said, it would just be used where appropriate. Just like every other tool the police have.
besides, it's not like the police limit where they carry guns on the off chance they shoot innocent civilians...
This is safer than pitting, and that is used in populated areas with a good track record of not killing innocent people.
proof? proof that an untrained driver wouldn't cut the wheel and roll, specifically in too heavy vehicles? and pitting does kill innocent
Never said pitting killed, I said this was safer than pitting, which already has a record of NOT killing people. Proof? how about the video
people that's why in populated areas many police chases are called off and they just follow the suspect by air and keep cars nearby
Dr4ake147
But if you do that to a properly tuned Civic then it will just pull away from you with a trail of smoke after it.
MacClay
And that Civic would need the 'missing rear bumper cover' mod so this thing can actually snare it.
True
NotTakenImgurAccountName
Love how it looks like the metal arms quickly tie the rope around the wheel like some sort of cartoon!
islippedonmyslipper
they don't tie the rope, it just gets tangled in the tire
longoriaisaiah
Pit stop.
Automatvapen
https://media.giphy.com/media/Xo8p9phgs742I/giphy.gif
Icommentoncomments
Well then, it is quite bonkers
ImShaqILaughAndWalkAway
Someone needs to add the eyes to this to make it perfect.
warmyourbeans
Wait a minute... Bonkers? Cartoon? http://imgur.com/mhCutp8
Boy, that sure brings back some mammories...
Katateochi
that was one of my fav cartoons as a kid
grilledslug
It looks that way because that's exactly what they are doing. Robots!
theyar
It does not look to me like that is what's happening.
Wobbixx
... No. Its the car wheel spinning that tangles it. The bars simply flex to react.
amothertruckingunicorn
That's the joke.
Nope, it's a robot. From an advanced civilization.
HighrockTendales
This really needs googly eyes
ofivefive
im still waiting
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2SpooookyCrisps
Kittendoodles
Waiting...
LittleWindow
CrystalCry
LordChip
ohidunno
Here you go.
ODSTsRule
awwwwwwww *thevoiceofdisappointment*
sigh, take your upvote
doyouthinkyoucanfuckmeupson
Kill urself
BishlamekGurpgork
If deserevingness of suicide was measured in downvotes, well . . .
Perhaps later
nightfury11
CleverNomics
DakianDelomast
That's not what's happening....
LloydMadel
You illiterate retard, he clearly says it LOOKS like it.
TransGirlsDoItBetter
IAmTheSlothKing
v
Jackeea
"it looks like"
heislegend
A couple yrs ago I heard that my town has cameras n squad cars that takes pictures of license plates & scans them to notify of various stuff
Jowrdan
In CT all state troopers have that
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Now all that's missing is ad companies joining in. "Driving down 5th alot? Why not visit Starbucks! Or else... *Car starts weaving* "
rikm
shhh- don't give those salesman types any more ideas...
rsm958
Our local cops regularly scan the Walmart parking lot when they are low on actual things to pursue. Almost always gets a hit.
So does mine....4 of them, I believe. Question is, which 4? haha
RatBastard516
Download Waze, it's amazing what this free app can do. For starters, it points out all camera intersections as you approach
MissLynnLew
Waze points out the location of cops if someone else has seen them and reported it. I worry about their safety and people going after them.
DoWnVoTeToThEkNeE
Don't they all? My town has street lights.. Pretty amazing.
"Recovery Agents" in Florida
MericanNightmare
I didn't know about this, live in Florida. Fuck this place.
HsuDoNihm
Pretty standard. Cop drives along and the car tells him if someone needs to be pulled over for paperwork or outstanding warrant.
Welcome to 1984. Its double plus good.
Taokan22
The police have better notice of when my insurance or inspection lapses than I do.
MetaSomma
You never check your mail?
You'd kind of expect they'd mail you, wouldn't you? Nope, but Johnny on the spot with the fancy plate scanner.
halborski
They had that in Ohio. I got pulled over because their scanner ran the name on my plate, then looked up my name, realized my Ohio license...
...was expired, and notified him to stop me. I had a valid out-of-state license at the time since I'd just moved.
TheOneTrueNerd
I had the same happen in Michigan. They just didn't update their records.
Denturedog
Then that gives him the chance to see if you are drinking and driving or anything else so they can corn hole yah
spacecatexplorer
In the UK this is common practise, most road traffic police cars are fitted with these and scan every car that drives past
byerss
The UK is crazy about it's CCTV cameras, so makes sense you guys want to be tracked literally everywhere, every way.
TakeMeToFrontPageAndBackFiveTimesADay
What are you on about? If you have all the paper work then what's the problem with them making sure you've got them? It stops non-insurance
AxCharm
same here in Australia.
SithRuleOfTwo
yea they can tell if your lic is suspended, no insurance...etc.
tivvybrixx
dont always work i got pulled over at gun point accused of stealing my car. the plate was read wrong....
Like amber alerts, expired insurance, & past dui charges. Crazy how far tech is getting.
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GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
I'm surprised it took so long to implement. Open source image processing libraries could've done this 10 years ago
Here's one for anyone to use: http://www.openalpr.com/
Tonberryc
The technology isn't the problem. The records and databases they're referencing are typically archaic and difficult to access.
sunyudai
They started this about eight years ago, as I recall.
Hell, six years ago I was doing code work for a small missouri town that wanted to get license plate readers installed on all traffic...
lights, then tie it to a notification system so cops could tell when there was an open warrent in town. Idea got scrapped for budget, but...
Stuey1221
It's called ANPR. Automatic Number Plate Recognition
PorneliusHubart
yet they still charge you extra for running a toll as if it costs them more money for you to do that
Snooj
My dash cam does it.
WhereDidTheLastHourGo
Why does a dash cam need ANPR.
TheSenorPanda
..
Link that dash cam, i want one
CongratsYouAreHereNow
fuck your dash cam. don't we have our 4th amendment right to privacy anymore?
I promise I won't drive my car into your livingroom.
JudgeMentaI
DamnItTrudyWhatAboutThePineapple
ISeeDeadpool
~
Shit should be illegal
absolutely. fuck these idiots downvoting you. the 4th amendment exists for a reason
Thank you atleast someone understands sir
you're very welcome. thanks for not deleting your comment after a few morons downvoted it
dartech2461
Shit can catch more baddies
Just losing more freedom for security
acliberti
Freedom to do what? Drive a stolen car?
BlackOpalGalaxy
The freedom to commit crimes, and for a human to have to catch you to get punished is an important freedom.
Zezlan
Is your username after the band?!
Sorry, didn't read til just now. But yes it is for HIL
Suck out the poison was and is their best album!
SheriffHD
MY country is covered with such cameras
maxiboyfm3a
Same here, its how they know to pull you over if your registration is expired
MerToo
welcome to the police state
Begotten
Those are everywhere. Even tow trucks have them now.
ThySausagePrince
Texas Troopers are equipped with this tech. Mostly for out of date registration.
LogosCosmosAtomos
I'm surprised someone hasn't taken that to the supreme court. Searching and probing without due cause. Sounds unconstitutional to me
FewestEvergreen
I don't think plain sight applies here-- With plain sight you still have to have Probable Cause
IStoleALoafOfBread
Prior to scanners they have the ability to search plate numbers and records associated. Scanner just speeds up the process
I see your point but I don't necessarily agree because people shouldn't be breaking the law to begin with.
choggie
oh gawd, one of THOSE people....
Which constitution? This is essentially the same as them pulling everyone over and running the plates.
US constitution. Equivalent to investigating without due cause IMO
But they will only ever get notified if there is due course, eg expired rego or if the car was reported to have been involved in a crime
Seriously, scan my plates all you want, as long as it doesn't inconvenience me. I've got nothing to hide so IDGAF
charondaboatman
Privacy is a right. Driving is a privilege. They can run your plates and act on that information only. They walk by your car and see 1/2
2/2 suspected dope on the seat, they have probable cause to search, but if it's in the glove box out of sight, no search.
That's very different scenario to auto license checking though. If the system returned a result, they DO have probable cause
No, it's allowed under plain sight rules.
That applies to "searches and Seizures". There's no supreme ruling, but state and local courts routinely uphold that single-hit database...
OutOfScope
This is how genocides are justified. "it's not genocide if they aren't people" even the act of looking up your history is "investigating"
AncientSeraph
Yes, checking a numberplate in plain sight on public property is exactly genocide. Damn fine argument.
... It's called self-justification. It has caused a lot of shitty things.
skincancerisfun
Well I thought it was a dubious point, but given your reputation AS I'll believe you. DEATH TO ALL NUMBERPLATE CHECKERS!
Dverg
The slippiest of slopes.
Not to mention the plate is government-issued. Why *wouldn't* they have a right to validate it?
In the UK this is common practise, most road traffic police cars are fitted with these and scan every car that drives past. 1/2
2/2 Can't argue against it, if driving without insurance, tax or licence, then you deserve to be caught, your fine if you do nothing wrong
Convergent
*You're
Apologies, wrong your/you're, you know what i meant.
icantspellsrry
Lol since when is it the cops job to play Mario kart on the freeway and where did they get all the special upgrades
AngryRaven
money from search and seizures, government grants from the war on drugs, military surplus, and from speed traps.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/10/11/asset-seizures-fuel-police-spending/
http://drugwarfacts.org/chapter/economics
http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock
http://www.spacesaver.com/small-police-departments/funding-sources-for-police-departments/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program
YuffieK
Note, it pretty much destroys the rear axle (you can see a tie rod coming off one car) and these are pro drivers.
Overnine5
Sway bar.
birrdd123
It seems if they were going slower, it'd cause the front car to very stop quickly. I bet a lot of cops will hit the suspects car.
svoka
I am not concerned with rear axle of anyone running from law enforcement, honestly.
jimmyjamz11
(Tie rods are up front)
CKOD
"Stop, or well use this thing that rips out your brake line and locks up one wheel. Good luck then, asshole"
yeah, the 2-3 ton police car that will be braking and is attached to the bad guy's car. won't have any stopping power.
GarbageManCan
There's also one wheel that's locked up would be pretty easy to stop with one wheel locked up just have to let off the accelerator.
very true, especially since it will be a rear wheel.
webimgur
Tie rods are usually part of the front suspension.
zanoii
The rear axle, the differentials and the gearbox on an awd car, I would guess.
MetalMil
This kills the car.
Cereaza
This could be really dangerous if it could cause them to lose control of the car. Any hint of that?
Mercykillin
This kills the car axle.
/a/fUQrx
ImAnActionBirb
That's not a tire rod, it's the police tool arm dropping back down
Recreationaldrugsnuggler
Lol police tool.....
unknownmale
went back and checked and was about to write the same thing +1
Degbis
Tie Rods turn wheels. So you almost never see them on the back and Tire rods are magical fanciful things, and that is the tool arm. Ole
OdinYggd
It can damage wheel bearings and brake lines, but suspension components should withstand it. tire might blow out though from skidding.
aguacatedeldiablo
I can't see any such thing, but I can't say I'm too concerned
popejubal
Sure, because the police never target innocent people by accident.
I know what you are trying to say, but it doesn't apply to tools/techniques like this, the pit maneuver, or spike strips.
Except it kind of does since the police do sometimes sweep up "good" people while chasing "badguys". It's less likely, but not impossible.
(and that includes people swept up in the pursuit when the fleeing suspect loses control of his car and crashes into bystanders)
Voydom
For me the problem is ... they have to catch up to the speeding car first, right ? And then what if there is trafic and other cars ...
You have the same exact problem with the pit maneuver, except the cop is not attached to the bad guys car. I get what you mean, but I 1/
don't think this is supposed to be the end all solution. Just a safer alternative to pitting, and more mobile alternative to spike strips
ImAkuTheShapeShiftingMasterofDarkness
Obviously they will do what ever they can depending on the situation. It's not like they are only allowed to use this.
Sure, but these posts ... making it look like this tool is the end of car chases. And I am like ... wtf are you smoking, it has 97 faults.
It's like the kitchen tool you buy that is usable every 2 months, if you are willing to waste your time, and moon is at that one position ..
Mairoa
It's easier for cops to catch up speed-wise. Their cars are souped up to be extra fast and agile
The big problem with this thing is it only works against vehicles that don't have a realistic chance of getting away anyway.
mBsquared
Tie rods are a steering component. They aren't on the rear axle.
AllThePups
No, tie rods are used with independent rear suspension. In this case, id assume it was a damper though cuz trucks rarely have irs
TheBlueMuppet
Torsion bar. Not tie rod.
fearandloathinginaz
Well the 1st Gen MR2 comes to mind. None other though.
I believe some new Porsche's have rear wheel steering as well. Though it could easily outrun any of these cops!
Oh right, then there were some Preludes with four wheel steering. The 1st gen MR2s had rear tie rods because the engineers were lazy.
Some GMC trucks had rear steering as well.
In actual use, I would not be surprised if it caused a bad rollover wreck.
Vortain
Just nuke'em. Stop the criminal AND guarantee high causality rates.
RobertLSU
this is meant to replace spike strips and PIT maneuvers. It's not meant to protect the driver of the car being stopped
Applepotamus
MrDeadsr
Karma
MidgetHumper
I hope so
ImaCarGuy
Good.
thoushaltnotpass
This thing *will* definitely kill people. No way a normal driver can continue driving straight with this on a wheel.
skeptical4spectacles
Isn't that kind of the point? This is BETTER than the pit maneuver, b/c the bad guy's car is attached to something.
there will be a 2-3 ton anchor attached to the perp's car though. I dont see this being any more dangerous than spike strips or pit.
It's, in fact, significantly safer, as the car is now tethered from behind as well.
it's in fact not safer to have your car tethered to a crashing car. Especially if it outweighs the police vehicle.
spike strips are less dangerous to the officers because they can set them up and be out of the way of a vehicle that may crash.
note that spike strips are still crazy dangerous just not as dangerous as being tethered to a crashing car
TehHammer
On a rear tire? unlikely.
SpartaWolf117
spike strips and PITing also carries that risk. depends on the situation
Splosions
When did they start calling it PITing? I always heard of it being called the Fishtail. This was 10 years ago in CA
Fishtailing is what happens when the rear loses traction and the driver makes it worse by overcompensating for the oversteer. ->
PIT (Pursuit Intervention Technique) is however an intentional maneuver.
Rtkwe
I've always heard it call the 'PIT maneuver' which seems to be it's official name.
interesting. I've never heard it called fishtail, but can see why it might be. I've only ever heard it called the pit maneuver.
When Semitrucks do it you can definitely see why it's called fishtail
Because fishtailing can happen without outside interference, where as a Pit maneuver is a deliberate action to spin out another vehicle
the PIT maneuver is the title for the act
jayliu1984
No it will not, it is very different from breaking hard because the front wheel are still turning. The car is in very stable condition.
adk2852
Bullshit.
blow a tire at high speed, it can certainly flip a vehicle, this isn't much different
Yes it will. This locks up one wheel. Unless the driver is highly skilled the car will spin and if it has a high CG flip.
GalaxyTrashPanda
Depends on if it's RWD/FWD/AWD
1dogsfordays1
Or a motorcycle
TheBalto
Try your car's handbrake full load at highway speed and report your findings. Don't die.
locking both wheels is much safer than locking one wheel. One locked wheel will cause the car to spin, two will not.
I have. If you do it perfectly straight you continue in a straight path (fwd) But do a little scandinavian flick and wave to the cop.
CultofCedar
I feel like when they hit the point where they need to force a car to stop, risking the criminal is safer then innocent people so¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Halykan
Accidents are dangerous to bystanders too. It's why they've been trying some new tactics to prevent chases from being high speed.
WookieJebus
At the very least the safety of the officer
That poor officer lohdy lohdy
public>officer>offender
Yeah, Killing someone over a ticket is totally a way to go.
If they're forcing you to stop like that it's beyond a ticket. You have to be driving in a manner that's a danger to others lives.
Calaros
The thing is though, a huge high-speed accident can very well put innocents at risk too.
GadenKerensky
It's a question of immediate risk vs risk over time; could he do more damage with his dangerous antics or get away to cause grief later?
Sophie1998
Yes, I agree with that order.
iwaslikeduuude
There have been cases where cops were sued because the risk of danger to others on the street was heavier than the threat of the criminal.
TangyGraffiti
This. Baltimore, as wrll as others, is now a no chase city for motorcycles because of this.
Well not every decision is good
teargsiiatneh
A car tumbling at 200km/h is hardly "minding the safety of bystanders"
InvadingYourSpaces
No one would use this on a car going that fast, sheesh.
You literally can't say that as it hasn't been used in a real situation so you have no evidence to support you.
If you watch a car chase they stop then on open stretches of road and they have cop cars in front and behind the car
BurntMomWarfare
A man in my town needed this. Sped down the highway chased until he made it into the town. Smashed into an ambulance at the first light.
CalebKills
Of all things an ambulance seems like the best to crash into
I don't think they would use it in heavily populated areas
Most chases are done inside a city
Slashinhobo
Then they will never use it. There aren't many highspeed chases going across an empty stretch of the road these days unkess they are shootin
idiotn00b
Yeah but that's a price we have to pay
Endangering innocents to stop some criminal?
arrkay
This doesn't seem that much safer than the way police used to ram people off the road.
klar971
"Deploy the fuck you strap!"
Darthajack
Haha, looks like a good prank!
ChiefMasterAirmanFirstClassSelectInCharge
Did somebody say Bonkers?
KeeleonOhms
TOTALLY NUTS!
CaptainOfCrunch
PrivateNoodles
Shake and bake
Yorou
How out-of-control-dangerous can your car get when entangled like that?
Cataleast
Less than what the alternatives do. The car in front also gets tethered to the police car, who can just gradually bring the car to a halt.
kuriosly
Cept for the single wheel breaking issue.
SinsOftheErectPhoenix
cool but we need googly eyes people. i need googly eyes!!
thecanadianhero
XelaDarks
Shark Tank years ago.
fisop20
7.62mm still exists people
MrOni
Yeah, just fire a bunch of rounds, way safer. Police are so well trained with firearms as it is....perfect
Pauu3r
will this also work on USSR nuclear submarine?
overnopethousand
Well the cars either stopped or continued on in a very sweet drift
yotsuya
Just don't get greedy with your target:
DoSheGotTheJetSkiSeaDoo
Neat, but definitely not new.
mellino19
The 2001 Tahoe gives it away (unless they just need a cheap mule to mount the device to)
Caiusj
This is actually a pretty clever idea
circlebreaker
Considering that Police typically panic so bad that they can't hit the broadside of a barn w/o firing 10+ rounds, I don't think it will work
kaztas
Actually Police seem to do better with driving. PIT maneuvers need skill to pull off too,
AlIYourBaseAreBelongToUs
If they were chasing me ( what would never happen ), then I would brake really hard before they deploy it and let them crash in the back ;)
Mithi
You are not the sharpest tool in the shed, aren't ya? The offsett hit from the cop car will send you spinning as well.
Gorgrim
You know pulling over would have the same effect, right?
squirrelfury
That would accomplish what exactly?
AlIYourBaseAreBelongToUs
Damaging the rig, before it can be properly deployed.
squirrelfury
That would likely damage your car also, with high possibility that it would stop running. It would also let them catch up to you.
AlIYourBaseAreBelongToUs
The car he follows is a 'chunky' 4x4 that can take quite a hit from the rear, before it becomes incapacitated. I would risk it.
AlIYourBaseAreBelongToUs
But I also would never come to a point where they would want to stop me in that manner! So this is all purely hypothetical of course.
HoonHoonSaysMoonbeam
Great for stopping professional drivers on a closed track...
Wazzamaniac
That seems dangerous
Cataleast
More so than a PIT maneuver or blowing someone's tires with a spike strip and having them blast away on the freeway on just rims? :)
deepbullet
Crime IS dangerous...
billymaditsdone
This has been out for a looooong time. For some reason, the police are not using it. Might be dangerous in some way or still in testing.
deepbullet
Politics......SOMEBODY'S not getting enough of a kickback.
themooseof603
probably because locking up a wheel can make a driver lose control which would lead to injured bystanders
Cataleast
I'm pretty sure it's still being developed and improved, not to mention the amount of red tape it has to go through. Nonetheless, it's ->
Cataleast
a significantly better option than PITing or spike strips, regardless of what the Internet High Speed Chase Professionals will tell you :)
HumpbackWhale89
I still prefer the Swedish way http://thechive.com/2012/04/30/if-youre-ever-involved-in-a-swedish-police-chase-pull-over-8-hq-photos/
imbapro
Just press "stop" quickly after photos are loaded and the paywall never loads :P
pigwitz
Volvos are badass
bisqwit
Paywall / loginwall.
DrDadJokes
Can we have this thing made for fudget spinners?
rabidkitty4
Mmmmm, fudge...
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
Use your fingers.
klubai4
Add razorblades for additional learning effect.
kilmore
TRY AND STOP ME!
Crazywelderguy
man, he just keeps hitting that ramp, over and over.
Smarterthanyoureaveragebeer
do you ever take it off any sweet jumps
deepbullet
"Those Duke Boys are at it again..."
BSUCLA
ryandickens
Mighty ducks
Treblaine
DashingThroughTheNope
"he says his name is RALPH'
BarfTittiesGalore
Great flick (The Chase, IIRC)
PAPASQUATT
Malcom in the middle
BarfTittiesGalore
Plus one shows what I know geez
DefinitelyNotDavidDuchovny
Love that episode of Malcolm in the Middle
killroy225
Which episode was that?
DefinitelyNotDavidDuchovny
Somewhere in season 2. Reese is learning to get his license
Tsamane
The faster we're falling, We're stopping and stalling
CharlesOConnor
I love fucking goats but to each his own.
KeeleonOhms
"I love fucking goats" and "I fucking love goats" mean 2 different things...
CharlesOConnor
Which ever states beastiality is the one i intended.
AlIYourBaseAreBelongToUs
I love this comment, but 'the fuck do I know about goats.
ragingzealot
This will last until somebody careens into a bystander and the police get sued.
DamnedAustin
Which is why it likely wouldn't be used in a situation where bystanders are present. Police are already careful about when they use (1)
DamnedAustin
spikes and PIT maneuvers, this isn't very different. (2/2)
Kaydiddilybro
It caused damage to one of the vehicles at least from what it looks like to me. How couldn't the police be sued for that?
themooseof603
if you wipe out a tire a vehicle can jerk causing a loss of control injuring nearby drivers and pedestrians
SpartaWillBurn
The police aren't deploying this for the normal traffic stop. This is used if the person is a danger to others.
Cataleast
Then again, the situation is significantly more controlled than a PIT or a spike strip.
kuriosly
Dunno. Single wheel lockup is a bit less controlled then a spike strip.
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
significantly less controlled. single wheel tire or brake failures at high speed would be catastrophic especially in a high CG vehicle.
Crazywelderguy
What is it with people thinking this is going to be used as often as the lights and siren? You have an entire cop car attached to 1/
Crazywelderguy
the perp's car. still dangerous, but safer than pitting. this has a right time to use just like the pit or spike strips.
SpectralFringe
once the straps hook to the wheel, they are released from the cop's car allowing him to safely retreat
Gorgrim
Nah, it's a tool which can be deployed when the situation is right. Worse case, they increase restrictions on deployment
themooseof603
are there a lot of highway chases in unpopulated straight stretches of road where you live?
Gorgrim
Are there a lot of idiots where you live, or just you?
themooseof603
most highway chases occur in populated areas, where this would be super dangerous therefore it's all but useless in the real world
Gorgrim
Most ≠ All. So as I said, it would just be used where appropriate. Just like every other tool the police have.
Gorgrim
besides, it's not like the police limit where they carry guns on the off chance they shoot innocent civilians...
Crazywelderguy
This is safer than pitting, and that is used in populated areas with a good track record of not killing innocent people.
themooseof603
proof? proof that an untrained driver wouldn't cut the wheel and roll, specifically in too heavy vehicles? and pitting does kill innocent
Crazywelderguy
Never said pitting killed, I said this was safer than pitting, which already has a record of NOT killing people. Proof? how about the video
themooseof603
people that's why in populated areas many police chases are called off and they just follow the suspect by air and keep cars nearby
Dr4ake147
But if you do that to a properly tuned Civic then it will just pull away from you with a trail of smoke after it.
MacClay
And that Civic would need the 'missing rear bumper cover' mod so this thing can actually snare it.
Dr4ake147
True
NotTakenImgurAccountName
Love how it looks like the metal arms quickly tie the rope around the wheel like some sort of cartoon!
islippedonmyslipper
they don't tie the rope, it just gets tangled in the tire
longoriaisaiah
Pit stop.
Automatvapen
https://media.giphy.com/media/Xo8p9phgs742I/giphy.gif
Icommentoncomments
Well then, it is quite bonkers
ImShaqILaughAndWalkAway
Someone needs to add the eyes to this to make it perfect.
warmyourbeans
Wait a minute... Bonkers? Cartoon? http://imgur.com/mhCutp8
deepbullet
Boy, that sure brings back some mammories...
Katateochi
that was one of my fav cartoons as a kid
grilledslug
It looks that way because that's exactly what they are doing. Robots!
theyar
It does not look to me like that is what's happening.
Wobbixx
... No. Its the car wheel spinning that tangles it. The bars simply flex to react.
amothertruckingunicorn
That's the joke.
grilledslug
Nope, it's a robot. From an advanced civilization.
HighrockTendales
This really needs googly eyes
ofivefive
im still waiting
ofivefive
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2SpooookyCrisps
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Kittendoodles
Waiting...
LittleWindow
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CrystalCry
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LordChip
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ohidunno
Here you go.
ODSTsRule
awwwwwwww *thevoiceofdisappointment*
islippedonmyslipper
sigh, take your upvote
doyouthinkyoucanfuckmeupson
Kill urself
BishlamekGurpgork
If deserevingness of suicide was measured in downvotes, well . . .
ohidunno
Perhaps later
nightfury11
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CleverNomics
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DakianDelomast
That's not what's happening....
LloydMadel
You illiterate retard, he clearly says it LOOKS like it.
TransGirlsDoItBetter
IAmTheSlothKing
Jackeea
"it looks like"
heislegend
A couple yrs ago I heard that my town has cameras n squad cars that takes pictures of license plates & scans them to notify of various stuff
Jowrdan
In CT all state troopers have that
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Now all that's missing is ad companies joining in. "Driving down 5th alot? Why not visit Starbucks! Or else... *Car starts weaving* "
rikm
shhh- don't give those salesman types any more ideas...
rsm958
Our local cops regularly scan the Walmart parking lot when they are low on actual things to pursue. Almost always gets a hit.
deepbullet
So does mine....4 of them, I believe. Question is, which 4? haha
RatBastard516
Download Waze, it's amazing what this free app can do. For starters, it points out all camera intersections as you approach
MissLynnLew
Waze points out the location of cops if someone else has seen them and reported it. I worry about their safety and people going after them.
DoWnVoTeToThEkNeE
Don't they all? My town has street lights.. Pretty amazing.
BarfTittiesGalore
"Recovery Agents" in Florida
MericanNightmare
I didn't know about this, live in Florida. Fuck this place.
HsuDoNihm
Pretty standard. Cop drives along and the car tells him if someone needs to be pulled over for paperwork or outstanding warrant.
KeeleonOhms
Welcome to 1984. Its double plus good.
Taokan22
The police have better notice of when my insurance or inspection lapses than I do.
MetaSomma
You never check your mail?
Taokan22
You'd kind of expect they'd mail you, wouldn't you? Nope, but Johnny on the spot with the fancy plate scanner.
halborski
They had that in Ohio. I got pulled over because their scanner ran the name on my plate, then looked up my name, realized my Ohio license...
halborski
...was expired, and notified him to stop me. I had a valid out-of-state license at the time since I'd just moved.
TheOneTrueNerd
I had the same happen in Michigan. They just didn't update their records.
Denturedog
Then that gives him the chance to see if you are drinking and driving or anything else so they can corn hole yah
spacecatexplorer
In the UK this is common practise, most road traffic police cars are fitted with these and scan every car that drives past
byerss
The UK is crazy about it's CCTV cameras, so makes sense you guys want to be tracked literally everywhere, every way.
TakeMeToFrontPageAndBackFiveTimesADay
What are you on about? If you have all the paper work then what's the problem with them making sure you've got them? It stops non-insurance
AxCharm
same here in Australia.
SithRuleOfTwo
yea they can tell if your lic is suspended, no insurance...etc.
tivvybrixx
dont always work i got pulled over at gun point accused of stealing my car. the plate was read wrong....
heislegend
Like amber alerts, expired insurance, & past dui charges. Crazy how far tech is getting.
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GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
I'm surprised it took so long to implement. Open source image processing libraries could've done this 10 years ago
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
Here's one for anyone to use: http://www.openalpr.com/
Tonberryc
The technology isn't the problem. The records and databases they're referencing are typically archaic and difficult to access.
sunyudai
They started this about eight years ago, as I recall.
sunyudai
Hell, six years ago I was doing code work for a small missouri town that wanted to get license plate readers installed on all traffic...
sunyudai
lights, then tie it to a notification system so cops could tell when there was an open warrent in town. Idea got scrapped for budget, but...
Stuey1221
It's called ANPR. Automatic Number Plate Recognition
PorneliusHubart
yet they still charge you extra for running a toll as if it costs them more money for you to do that
Snooj
My dash cam does it.
WhereDidTheLastHourGo
Why does a dash cam need ANPR.
TheSenorPanda
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CrystalCry
Link that dash cam, i want one
CongratsYouAreHereNow
fuck your dash cam. don't we have our 4th amendment right to privacy anymore?
Snooj
I promise I won't drive my car into your livingroom.
JudgeMentaI
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DamnItTrudyWhatAboutThePineapple
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TheSenorPanda
..
ISeeDeadpool
~
Denturedog
Shit should be illegal
CongratsYouAreHereNow
absolutely. fuck these idiots downvoting you. the 4th amendment exists for a reason
Denturedog
Thank you atleast someone understands sir
CongratsYouAreHereNow
you're very welcome. thanks for not deleting your comment after a few morons downvoted it
dartech2461
Shit can catch more baddies
Denturedog
Just losing more freedom for security
acliberti
Freedom to do what? Drive a stolen car?
BlackOpalGalaxy
The freedom to commit crimes, and for a human to have to catch you to get punished is an important freedom.
Zezlan
Is your username after the band?!
heislegend
Sorry, didn't read til just now. But yes it is for HIL
Zezlan
Suck out the poison was and is their best album!
SheriffHD
MY country is covered with such cameras
maxiboyfm3a
Same here, its how they know to pull you over if your registration is expired
MerToo
welcome to the police state
Begotten
Those are everywhere. Even tow trucks have them now.
ThySausagePrince
Texas Troopers are equipped with this tech. Mostly for out of date registration.
LogosCosmosAtomos
I'm surprised someone hasn't taken that to the supreme court. Searching and probing without due cause. Sounds unconstitutional to me
FewestEvergreen
I don't think plain sight applies here-- With plain sight you still have to have Probable Cause
IStoleALoafOfBread
Prior to scanners they have the ability to search plate numbers and records associated. Scanner just speeds up the process
MissLynnLew
I see your point but I don't necessarily agree because people shouldn't be breaking the law to begin with.
choggie
oh gawd, one of THOSE people....
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
Which constitution? This is essentially the same as them pulling everyone over and running the plates.
LogosCosmosAtomos
US constitution. Equivalent to investigating without due cause IMO
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
But they will only ever get notified if there is due course, eg expired rego or if the car was reported to have been involved in a crime
MetaSomma
Seriously, scan my plates all you want, as long as it doesn't inconvenience me. I've got nothing to hide so IDGAF
charondaboatman
Privacy is a right. Driving is a privilege. They can run your plates and act on that information only. They walk by your car and see 1/2
charondaboatman
2/2 suspected dope on the seat, they have probable cause to search, but if it's in the glove box out of sight, no search.
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
That's very different scenario to auto license checking though. If the system returned a result, they DO have probable cause
sunyudai
No, it's allowed under plain sight rules.
FewestEvergreen
I don't think plain sight applies here-- With plain sight you still have to have Probable Cause
sunyudai
That applies to "searches and Seizures". There's no supreme ruling, but state and local courts routinely uphold that single-hit database...
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OutOfScope
This is how genocides are justified. "it's not genocide if they aren't people" even the act of looking up your history is "investigating"
AncientSeraph
Yes, checking a numberplate in plain sight on public property is exactly genocide. Damn fine argument.
OutOfScope
... It's called self-justification. It has caused a lot of shitty things.
skincancerisfun
Well I thought it was a dubious point, but given your reputation AS I'll believe you. DEATH TO ALL NUMBERPLATE CHECKERS!
Dverg
The slippiest of slopes.
MetaSomma
Not to mention the plate is government-issued. Why *wouldn't* they have a right to validate it?
spacecatexplorer
In the UK this is common practise, most road traffic police cars are fitted with these and scan every car that drives past. 1/2
spacecatexplorer
2/2 Can't argue against it, if driving without insurance, tax or licence, then you deserve to be caught, your fine if you do nothing wrong
Convergent
*You're
spacecatexplorer
Apologies, wrong your/you're, you know what i meant.
icantspellsrry
Lol since when is it the cops job to play Mario kart on the freeway and where did they get all the special upgrades
AngryRaven
money from search and seizures, government grants from the war on drugs, military surplus, and from speed traps.
AngryRaven
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/10/11/asset-seizures-fuel-police-spending/
AngryRaven
http://drugwarfacts.org/chapter/economics
AngryRaven
http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock
AngryRaven
http://www.spacesaver.com/small-police-departments/funding-sources-for-police-departments/
AngryRaven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
AngryRaven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program
YuffieK
Note, it pretty much destroys the rear axle (you can see a tie rod coming off one car) and these are pro drivers.
Overnine5
Sway bar.
birrdd123
It seems if they were going slower, it'd cause the front car to very stop quickly. I bet a lot of cops will hit the suspects car.
svoka
I am not concerned with rear axle of anyone running from law enforcement, honestly.
jimmyjamz11
(Tie rods are up front)
CKOD
"Stop, or well use this thing that rips out your brake line and locks up one wheel. Good luck then, asshole"
Crazywelderguy
yeah, the 2-3 ton police car that will be braking and is attached to the bad guy's car. won't have any stopping power.
GarbageManCan
There's also one wheel that's locked up would be pretty easy to stop with one wheel locked up just have to let off the accelerator.
Crazywelderguy
very true, especially since it will be a rear wheel.
webimgur
Tie rods are usually part of the front suspension.
zanoii
The rear axle, the differentials and the gearbox on an awd car, I would guess.
MetalMil
This kills the car.
Cereaza
This could be really dangerous if it could cause them to lose control of the car. Any hint of that?
Mercykillin
This kills the car axle.
Crazywelderguy
/a/fUQrx
ImAnActionBirb
That's not a tire rod, it's the police tool arm dropping back down
Recreationaldrugsnuggler
Lol police tool.....
unknownmale
went back and checked and was about to write the same thing +1
Degbis
Tie Rods turn wheels. So you almost never see them on the back and Tire rods are magical fanciful things, and that is the tool arm. Ole
OdinYggd
It can damage wheel bearings and brake lines, but suspension components should withstand it. tire might blow out though from skidding.
aguacatedeldiablo
I can't see any such thing, but I can't say I'm too concerned
popejubal
Sure, because the police never target innocent people by accident.
Crazywelderguy
I know what you are trying to say, but it doesn't apply to tools/techniques like this, the pit maneuver, or spike strips.
popejubal
Except it kind of does since the police do sometimes sweep up "good" people while chasing "badguys". It's less likely, but not impossible.
popejubal
(and that includes people swept up in the pursuit when the fleeing suspect loses control of his car and crashes into bystanders)
Voydom
For me the problem is ... they have to catch up to the speeding car first, right ? And then what if there is trafic and other cars ...
Crazywelderguy
You have the same exact problem with the pit maneuver, except the cop is not attached to the bad guys car. I get what you mean, but I 1/
Crazywelderguy
don't think this is supposed to be the end all solution. Just a safer alternative to pitting, and more mobile alternative to spike strips
ImAkuTheShapeShiftingMasterofDarkness
Obviously they will do what ever they can depending on the situation. It's not like they are only allowed to use this.
Voydom
Sure, but these posts ... making it look like this tool is the end of car chases. And I am like ... wtf are you smoking, it has 97 faults.
Voydom
It's like the kitchen tool you buy that is usable every 2 months, if you are willing to waste your time, and moon is at that one position ..
Mairoa
It's easier for cops to catch up speed-wise. Their cars are souped up to be extra fast and agile
MacClay
The big problem with this thing is it only works against vehicles that don't have a realistic chance of getting away anyway.
mBsquared
Tie rods are a steering component. They aren't on the rear axle.
AllThePups
No, tie rods are used with independent rear suspension. In this case, id assume it was a damper though cuz trucks rarely have irs
TheBlueMuppet
Torsion bar. Not tie rod.
fearandloathinginaz
Well the 1st Gen MR2 comes to mind. None other though.
Crazywelderguy
I believe some new Porsche's have rear wheel steering as well. Though it could easily outrun any of these cops!
fearandloathinginaz
Oh right, then there were some Preludes with four wheel steering. The 1st gen MR2s had rear tie rods because the engineers were lazy.
MacClay
Some GMC trucks had rear steering as well.
YuffieK
In actual use, I would not be surprised if it caused a bad rollover wreck.
Vortain
Just nuke'em. Stop the criminal AND guarantee high causality rates.
RobertLSU
this is meant to replace spike strips and PIT maneuvers. It's not meant to protect the driver of the car being stopped
Applepotamus
MrDeadsr
Karma
MidgetHumper
I hope so
ImaCarGuy
Good.
thoushaltnotpass
This thing *will* definitely kill people. No way a normal driver can continue driving straight with this on a wheel.
skeptical4spectacles
Isn't that kind of the point? This is BETTER than the pit maneuver, b/c the bad guy's car is attached to something.
Crazywelderguy
there will be a 2-3 ton anchor attached to the perp's car though. I dont see this being any more dangerous than spike strips or pit.
Cataleast
It's, in fact, significantly safer, as the car is now tethered from behind as well.
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
it's in fact not safer to have your car tethered to a crashing car. Especially if it outweighs the police vehicle.
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
spike strips are less dangerous to the officers because they can set them up and be out of the way of a vehicle that may crash.
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
note that spike strips are still crazy dangerous just not as dangerous as being tethered to a crashing car
TehHammer
On a rear tire? unlikely.
SpartaWolf117
spike strips and PITing also carries that risk. depends on the situation
Splosions
When did they start calling it PITing? I always heard of it being called the Fishtail. This was 10 years ago in CA
Cataleast
Fishtailing is what happens when the rear loses traction and the driver makes it worse by overcompensating for the oversteer. ->
Cataleast
PIT (Pursuit Intervention Technique) is however an intentional maneuver.
Rtkwe
I've always heard it call the 'PIT maneuver' which seems to be it's official name.
Crazywelderguy
interesting. I've never heard it called fishtail, but can see why it might be. I've only ever heard it called the pit maneuver.
kaztas
When Semitrucks do it you can definitely see why it's called fishtail
SpectralFringe
Because fishtailing can happen without outside interference, where as a Pit maneuver is a deliberate action to spin out another vehicle
SpartaWolf117
the PIT maneuver is the title for the act
jayliu1984
No it will not, it is very different from breaking hard because the front wheel are still turning. The car is in very stable condition.
adk2852
Bullshit.
themooseof603
blow a tire at high speed, it can certainly flip a vehicle, this isn't much different
iwouldliveinsaltforyou
Yes it will. This locks up one wheel. Unless the driver is highly skilled the car will spin and if it has a high CG flip.
GalaxyTrashPanda
Depends on if it's RWD/FWD/AWD
1dogsfordays1
Or a motorcycle
TheBalto
Try your car's handbrake full load at highway speed and report your findings. Don't die.
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iwouldliveinsaltforyou
locking both wheels is much safer than locking one wheel. One locked wheel will cause the car to spin, two will not.
fearandloathinginaz
I have. If you do it perfectly straight you continue in a straight path (fwd) But do a little scandinavian flick and wave to the cop.
CultofCedar
I feel like when they hit the point where they need to force a car to stop, risking the criminal is safer then innocent people so¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Halykan
Accidents are dangerous to bystanders too. It's why they've been trying some new tactics to prevent chases from being high speed.
WookieJebus
At the very least the safety of the officer
MrOni
That poor officer lohdy lohdy
themooseof603
public>officer>offender
MrOni
Yeah, Killing someone over a ticket is totally a way to go.
CultofCedar
If they're forcing you to stop like that it's beyond a ticket. You have to be driving in a manner that's a danger to others lives.
Calaros
The thing is though, a huge high-speed accident can very well put innocents at risk too.
GadenKerensky
It's a question of immediate risk vs risk over time; could he do more damage with his dangerous antics or get away to cause grief later?
Sophie1998
Yes, I agree with that order.
iwaslikeduuude
There have been cases where cops were sued because the risk of danger to others on the street was heavier than the threat of the criminal.
TangyGraffiti
This. Baltimore, as wrll as others, is now a no chase city for motorcycles because of this.
CultofCedar
Well not every decision is good
teargsiiatneh
A car tumbling at 200km/h is hardly "minding the safety of bystanders"
InvadingYourSpaces
No one would use this on a car going that fast, sheesh.
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TangyGraffiti
You literally can't say that as it hasn't been used in a real situation so you have no evidence to support you.
CultofCedar
If you watch a car chase they stop then on open stretches of road and they have cop cars in front and behind the car
BurntMomWarfare
A man in my town needed this. Sped down the highway chased until he made it into the town. Smashed into an ambulance at the first light.
CalebKills
Of all things an ambulance seems like the best to crash into
1dogsfordays1
I don't think they would use it in heavily populated areas
teargsiiatneh
Most chases are done inside a city
Slashinhobo
Then they will never use it. There aren't many highspeed chases going across an empty stretch of the road these days unkess they are shootin
idiotn00b
Yeah but that's a price we have to pay
teargsiiatneh
Endangering innocents to stop some criminal?