Mar 23, 2023 12:33 PM
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NearHereThere
Elgibbity : ) : )
RandAIFlagg
Well, after working so hard to pick a fight with Disney, let's see how this goes. I'm excited.
Dragongirl7256
If DeSantis is what it takes to make Disney stop being shitty to the lgbtq, so be it I guess??
moecurlylarry
I wish I liked going there because I would support them
ILoveMyWifesFeet
The irony of the GOP going full communist by trying to tell companies what to do…
100percentmilk
Bob Iger is back in charge at Disney and he’s not the coward that Chapek was.
finstad4
NinetiesBoomer
EUPlayer
Well its good PR and good for the green bar going brrrrrr
Dustorm
Great, next stop altering your movies to remove LGBT characters in some countries.
GayBondageMaster
"Disney is totally on our side and cares about us. Please, take my money." -A fuckton of people
Iblamemyparentstoo
By that same logic they will lose a shit ton of money from republicans, you know how much they love to boycott things
Papo709624
georgedragonslayer
To put this into perspective, Disney is a horrible, exploitive company. And yet, DeathSantis is so bad that we are cheering for them.
TheTexasLefty
speak for yourself. rainbow capitalism is a cash grab and I won't be partaking. DeathSantis is worse than Disney, but they're both bad.
wangdangdoozle
Doesn't make up for canning Owl House!
This is rainbow capitalism. If it made them more money to be bigoted, they would do it.
literallymike
BTC lost me with a single tweet: "We don't even NEED Georgia!"
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
I swear to god some establishment Dems still do not fucking understand that elections are in fact popularity contests
The rules of the game have changed, indeed. Appeals to moral decency aren't pocket aces anymore.
"we may have lost our district for the 6th time in a row, but at least we didn't air a mean ad and lose our moral high ground!"
CarbyD
They're just showing Ron who actually controls Florida
ALLCAPSROCK
Meth?
bardman135
Yes, it ith, and it'th Dethantith'th fault
FallenJester
Disney runs Bartertown
Send him to the Thor™: God of Thunder-dome!
Euchre
Money runs Florida, just like everywhere else in a capitalist nation. Pandering to right wing minority nutcases isn't good business.
bikergeek6249
To quote Beau, "Go fash, no cash"
twatburglar
What happens then when he sends in a heavily armed militarized police force to go bash heads in at Disney world?
Monkeynutsjoe
Pretty sure Disney has its own they can fight back with.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
Bad optics. They would never do that. They will start with small organizations that can be spun as a good thing or covered up.
derekjohn
When Disney come out on the side of 'liberals' (progressives), you know that the Right in the USA has drifted a long way from its moorings.
ragingmollusk
This is the way
martyranger
Sechran
A century from now, DeSantis will max out as a name in a state history book, while Disney will likely own the rights to our grandchildren.
mortaltheater
The joke is on you, I won't have grandchildren. Bazinga!
coffeegut
i suspect my great great grandchildren will literally wear Disney livery in a post apocalyptic feudal society
ManintheMountain
Disney; "they are on to our evil plan!"
morninggloryshade777
Yes!
Dannyflash78
Is this like that fight in world of Warcraft where we wait to see which boss dies first and then fight whoever survives?
cazkey
That’s called freedom of choice.
AlanDalman
I'm pretty sure a bunch of the most prolific and skilled Imagineers at Disney are LGBTQ, and Disney is protecting a valuable asset.
overflowin2718
The heir of the Disney family is trans as well.
NikkiHuskyMum87
They're protecting their money. They don't give a shit about us. If it was profitable for them to support DeSantis they would
CoBr2
So the Disney heir is transgender. They just came out recently, and still put profits first, but they do have a dog in this fight.
YouShallCuddleTheMath
So let's keep protecting us a profitable endeavour
Agreed, but let's never mistake Disney for a caring and empathetic company, don't fall for the pandering
Gen1Optimus
A wise man once said "Let them fight"
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
This is an outstanding showdown.
ArcadiaBerger
They're laying the groundwork for getting their sweetheart deal back from the Democratic Governor & overwhelmingly Democratic Legislature...
...Florida is going to have in a couple of years.
OMGChris
Oh I highly doubt that. I live in FL and voting against these shit heads feels futile. I'll keep doing it but DeSantis won the last one (1/2
By an absolute landslide. The state is going more Red. Not less (2/2)
What about the half-million people who got their right to vote restored, and the many Repubs who died from Ron's COVID incompetence? Were...
...they really swamped by people moving south from New Jersey and Illinois? Surely if people who hate the current regime organized...?
shack95
They need to use their entire in-house room broadcasting system to show him eating like a slob followed by AI goat fsckng pr0nography
skipweasel
Is this because they believe it's the right thing to do, or to piss off DeSantis, or a cynical bit of marketing, or pure cash grab?
LerryV2
Its good for their bank account to go along with it because they see how pissed off people are at DeStantis
TexMexHex
relevent
At minimum, half of that.
Isiel89
Yes.
dontfloatmygoat
Disney heir is trans and Disney and Florida are having a war. It’s a double two finger salute where money also helps the bitter pill go down
yuugian
Bit of both, but the conference they are hosting is one they were already a member of and one of the largest doners to
Syko73
yes
delecti
They don't care that it's the right thing to do, but a majority of people do, and Disney wants those peoples' money.
jayman0123
It doesn't hurt that Ron has been openly shitty to Disney for a while, sticking it to him probably is a plus
JUSTAnxious275
Yes
sheebalasvegas
all of the above, i do LOVE that disney of all places is givinga big middle finger LOL
Sebastopol140
All of the above.
Valkyr1987
Three out of four
MCNewYorkLives
Honestly, the world may be a better place if more people were progressive out of spite.
Groetgaffel
No, no, yes, absolutely.
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
Both?
TheRealOwl
Could also be a power move to say they ain't letting him telling them what they can or can't do.
ShittySenseOfHumor
NickNackGus
VeryGoodLittleTiger
Maybe all the above
CptRobotNinja
It's Disney mate. It's about money. But it also happens to be a good thing so I'll take it
Amousewithchees
I think all of the above.
getadogupya
It's only a matter of time before they get caught up in these stupid laws about dressing in clothes of another gender... what's next?
When they start coming for the furries, they're out of business.
/gallery/yZ4vU5e
...I think I need to get better at this reaction image thing, one moment...
Override9636
In Late Stage Capitalism, it is the goal of a minority group to become so normalized that they become profitable.
backrideup9
10% #1, 50% #2, 8% #3 and 32% #4.
Cruxia13
All above. They do also donate their Disney Pride merch proceeds to LGBTQ+ support each June, but publicity/cash grab still is what it is.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They have to know they risk being branded as "woke", and hit with a right-wing boycott for this. I can't imagine they haven't run the (1)
PithyCommentBelow
Wouldn’t that make it the greatest place on earth?
100KushUps
Did we all forget about the little mermaid?
numbers on this and simply decided it made financial sense. (2)
themorebeer
Being Woke is better business than being a bigot. There's a significantly larger user base. That's why advertisers flee anti-woke platforms.
captainpizza
The right branded them as woke ages ago, they arent going to piss off anyone who doesnt already hate them
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
Bit of column A, bit of column B
bunnyhopp69
Obviously there is always a financial incentive when it comes to Disney, but I'll still take this over silent indifference any day.
So the Disney heir is transgender. They just came out recently, and still put profits first, but they do have some non-profit motivations
TI99Kitty
I mean, why can't it be all of the above?
royrogersdoublerbarburger
I worked at WDW in the late 90's. 2 things. 1: No hyperbole, I'd say 20% of the male workforce then was gay. 2: They were OUT and PROUD gay.
That was wildly different than what many College Program interns were used to back in their home state "back then."
nccomputermechanics4
Pure cash grab, it looks good to the public and they don't care about the locals only the majority who come from out of state
DarkwingDuc
I'm usually pretty cynical of performative activism by giant corporations, but Disney has been pro-LGBTG since long before it was mainstream
CardboardStomach
Not sure I'd go that far. Older LGBT+ Disney representation was mostly just harmful stereotypes and queer coded villains. From then on>
they've mostly stuck to having them be background characters and coincidentally any show that features the main character in an LGBT >
relationship seems to get cancelled pretty fast once that relationship starts to be expanded upon. Feels very performative
I don't watch many Disney films. I was talking about hosting Pride events for over 3 decades, before it was common or other corps joined in.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
Everything but the first
bipolarmom83
Easilyflustered
All of the above but it still benefits a positive direction in society. You can actively support companies that do so while understanding Y
Imapseudonym
Who cares as long as it's done.
Xenarion
Disney already received hate from conservative for whatever futile reason, so they have nothing to loose.
TooRexyForMyShirt
vicvalour
Well, 3/4 ain't bad
jmartkdr
Bright side: LGBT+ acceptance is so high that excluding them (and allies) costs more than excluding homophobes.
Yeah - that's what I thought.
SomeHippy
What's he gonna do about it? Ban Disney? That would cripple Florida's economy *1 week later* Wow.... he's really gonna ban Disney........
TeeweeAndSmashboy
He’ll puff his chest, and sabre rattle, all as a show to his voter base in the lead up to his run for POTUS. It’s all hype! 1/2
2/2 once he’s gone, Florida will continue to kowtow to Disney.
varyael
Considering disney is the largest entertainment company in the world, makes sense they dont want to piss off 90% of Americans being bigoted
ruferto
they're the largest entertainment company in the world, i dont think it's possible for them to be. diversity hires alone would ensure it
True, but they don't need to host anything for that. They can just not do anything.
*by being bigoted
kubi
I also imagine the bigots are already boycotting Disney for other reasons.
Exactly, Disney would be stupid to cater to obviously unstable bigots, considering their ties to many different minority groups
FlatPlutoSociety
Probably not. Yelling about Disney on Twitter? Sure. But Disney is a very hard company to actually boycott, and chuds have no discipline.
They'll burn dvds they already own like the idiots they are, then buy more when their kids complain for long enough
So for disney, they gain business with inclusion and double stick it to the bigots because they have every finger in children's movie pie
Absent
I wish 90% of Americans cared, I really do...
Only about half of eligible voters do so, lots of kids, immigrants. Of half the voters, half are GOP and half of those are the vocal bigots
Broken down, 90% of Americans just want to live their lives and want other Americans to do that too. The loud assholes aren't even 10%
This may indeed be true, but apathy is sometimes equally dangerous.
Enoan
The market share of pro-LGBT is larger than anti-LGBT, but the majority don't really care one way or the other.
alcamar
I wish 70% cared
KiwiGameDev
As an international looking into the hellscape eternally worried what’s gonna happen when this all bursts, I’ll settle for 51%
painstream
We barely get a third to care, and half of the ones that do are arseholes who vote against caring.
InfocalypseRising
Mostly the last two. But doing the right thing for the wrong reason is still better than doing the wrong thing
UmAcshually
Yup. ~90% of Disney's political donations are to Dems, ~10% to Rs https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/walt-disney-co/recipients?id=d000000128 >
100% are legalized bribery, for corporations to gain more political power they shouldn't have... But at least it's for the smaller evil.
Exactly. It's a good example of an amoral good act.
Ah, new motto for the GOP "Doing the wrong thing for no reason."
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Unfortunately, they have some really really fucked up reasons.
NivalisAngelus
/a/zE2LCz7
An illogical and invalid reason is no reason at all. Consider the word 'reason' itself. They aren't reasoning, they're trying to excuse.
I was using a secondary definition of "reason" synonymous with "motivation".
NearHereThere
Elgibbity : ) : )
RandAIFlagg
Well, after working so hard to pick a fight with Disney, let's see how this goes. I'm excited.
Dragongirl7256
If DeSantis is what it takes to make Disney stop being shitty to the lgbtq, so be it I guess??
moecurlylarry
I wish I liked going there because I would support them
ILoveMyWifesFeet
The irony of the GOP going full communist by trying to tell companies what to do…
100percentmilk
Bob Iger is back in charge at Disney and he’s not the coward that Chapek was.
finstad4
NinetiesBoomer
EUPlayer
Well its good PR and good for the green bar going brrrrrr
Dustorm
Great, next stop altering your movies to remove LGBT characters in some countries.
GayBondageMaster
"Disney is totally on our side and cares about us. Please, take my money." -A fuckton of people
Iblamemyparentstoo
By that same logic they will lose a shit ton of money from republicans, you know how much they love to boycott things
Papo709624
georgedragonslayer
To put this into perspective, Disney is a horrible, exploitive company. And yet, DeathSantis is so bad that we are cheering for them.
TheTexasLefty
speak for yourself. rainbow capitalism is a cash grab and I won't be partaking. DeathSantis is worse than Disney, but they're both bad.
wangdangdoozle
Doesn't make up for canning Owl House!
TheTexasLefty
This is rainbow capitalism. If it made them more money to be bigoted, they would do it.
literallymike
BTC lost me with a single tweet: "We don't even NEED Georgia!"
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
I swear to god some establishment Dems still do not fucking understand that elections are in fact popularity contests
literallymike
The rules of the game have changed, indeed. Appeals to moral decency aren't pocket aces anymore.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
"we may have lost our district for the 6th time in a row, but at least we didn't air a mean ad and lose our moral high ground!"
CarbyD
They're just showing Ron who actually controls Florida
ALLCAPSROCK
Meth?
bardman135
Yes, it ith, and it'th Dethantith'th fault
FallenJester
Disney runs Bartertown
CarbyD
Send him to the Thor™: God of Thunder-dome!
Euchre
Money runs Florida, just like everywhere else in a capitalist nation. Pandering to right wing minority nutcases isn't good business.
bikergeek6249
To quote Beau, "Go fash, no cash"
twatburglar
What happens then when he sends in a heavily armed militarized police force to go bash heads in at Disney world?
Monkeynutsjoe
Pretty sure Disney has its own they can fight back with.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
Bad optics. They would never do that. They will start with small organizations that can be spun as a good thing or covered up.
derekjohn
When Disney come out on the side of 'liberals' (progressives), you know that the Right in the USA has drifted a long way from its moorings.
ragingmollusk
This is the way
martyranger
This is the way
Sechran
A century from now, DeSantis will max out as a name in a state history book, while Disney will likely own the rights to our grandchildren.
mortaltheater
The joke is on you, I won't have grandchildren. Bazinga!
coffeegut
i suspect my great great grandchildren will literally wear Disney livery in a post apocalyptic feudal society
ManintheMountain
Disney; "they are on to our evil plan!"
morninggloryshade777
Yes!
Dannyflash78
Is this like that fight in world of Warcraft where we wait to see which boss dies first and then fight whoever survives?
cazkey
That’s called freedom of choice.
AlanDalman
I'm pretty sure a bunch of the most prolific and skilled Imagineers at Disney are LGBTQ, and Disney is protecting a valuable asset.
overflowin2718
The heir of the Disney family is trans as well.
NikkiHuskyMum87
They're protecting their money. They don't give a shit about us. If it was profitable for them to support DeSantis they would
CoBr2
So the Disney heir is transgender. They just came out recently, and still put profits first, but they do have a dog in this fight.
YouShallCuddleTheMath
So let's keep protecting us a profitable endeavour
NikkiHuskyMum87
Agreed, but let's never mistake Disney for a caring and empathetic company, don't fall for the pandering
Gen1Optimus
A wise man once said "Let them fight"
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
This is an outstanding showdown.
ArcadiaBerger
They're laying the groundwork for getting their sweetheart deal back from the Democratic Governor & overwhelmingly Democratic Legislature...
ArcadiaBerger
...Florida is going to have in a couple of years.
OMGChris
Oh I highly doubt that. I live in FL and voting against these shit heads feels futile. I'll keep doing it but DeSantis won the last one (1/2
OMGChris
By an absolute landslide. The state is going more Red. Not less (2/2)
ArcadiaBerger
What about the half-million people who got their right to vote restored, and the many Repubs who died from Ron's COVID incompetence? Were...
ArcadiaBerger
...they really swamped by people moving south from New Jersey and Illinois? Surely if people who hate the current regime organized...?
shack95
They need to use their entire in-house room broadcasting system to show him eating like a slob followed by AI goat fsckng pr0nography
skipweasel
Is this because they believe it's the right thing to do, or to piss off DeSantis, or a cynical bit of marketing, or pure cash grab?
LerryV2
Its good for their bank account to go along with it because they see how pissed off people are at DeStantis
TexMexHex
relevent
At minimum, half of that.
Isiel89
Yes.
dontfloatmygoat
Disney heir is trans and Disney and Florida are having a war. It’s a double two finger salute where money also helps the bitter pill go down
yuugian
Bit of both, but the conference they are hosting is one they were already a member of and one of the largest doners to
Syko73
yes
delecti
They don't care that it's the right thing to do, but a majority of people do, and Disney wants those peoples' money.
jayman0123
It doesn't hurt that Ron has been openly shitty to Disney for a while, sticking it to him probably is a plus
JUSTAnxious275
Yes
sheebalasvegas
all of the above, i do LOVE that disney of all places is givinga big middle finger LOL
Sebastopol140
All of the above.
Valkyr1987
Three out of four
MCNewYorkLives
Honestly, the world may be a better place if more people were progressive out of spite.
Groetgaffel
No, no, yes, absolutely.
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
Both?
TheRealOwl
Could also be a power move to say they ain't letting him telling them what they can or can't do.
ShittySenseOfHumor
NickNackGus
VeryGoodLittleTiger
Maybe all the above
CptRobotNinja
It's Disney mate. It's about money. But it also happens to be a good thing so I'll take it
Amousewithchees
I think all of the above.
getadogupya
It's only a matter of time before they get caught up in these stupid laws about dressing in clothes of another gender... what's next?
getadogupya
When they start coming for the furries, they're out of business.
NickNackGus
/gallery/yZ4vU5e
NickNackGus
...I think I need to get better at this reaction image thing, one moment...
Override9636
In Late Stage Capitalism, it is the goal of a minority group to become so normalized that they become profitable.
backrideup9
10% #1, 50% #2, 8% #3 and 32% #4.
Cruxia13
All above. They do also donate their Disney Pride merch proceeds to LGBTQ+ support each June, but publicity/cash grab still is what it is.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They have to know they risk being branded as "woke", and hit with a right-wing boycott for this. I can't imagine they haven't run the (1)
PithyCommentBelow
Wouldn’t that make it the greatest place on earth?
100KushUps
Did we all forget about the little mermaid?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
numbers on this and simply decided it made financial sense. (2)
themorebeer
Being Woke is better business than being a bigot. There's a significantly larger user base. That's why advertisers flee anti-woke platforms.
captainpizza
The right branded them as woke ages ago, they arent going to piss off anyone who doesnt already hate them
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
Bit of column A, bit of column B
bunnyhopp69
Obviously there is always a financial incentive when it comes to Disney, but I'll still take this over silent indifference any day.
CoBr2
So the Disney heir is transgender. They just came out recently, and still put profits first, but they do have some non-profit motivations
TI99Kitty
I mean, why can't it be all of the above?
royrogersdoublerbarburger
I worked at WDW in the late 90's. 2 things. 1: No hyperbole, I'd say 20% of the male workforce then was gay. 2: They were OUT and PROUD gay.
royrogersdoublerbarburger
That was wildly different than what many College Program interns were used to back in their home state "back then."
nccomputermechanics4
Pure cash grab, it looks good to the public and they don't care about the locals only the majority who come from out of state
DarkwingDuc
I'm usually pretty cynical of performative activism by giant corporations, but Disney has been pro-LGBTG since long before it was mainstream
CardboardStomach
Not sure I'd go that far. Older LGBT+ Disney representation was mostly just harmful stereotypes and queer coded villains. From then on>
CardboardStomach
they've mostly stuck to having them be background characters and coincidentally any show that features the main character in an LGBT >
CardboardStomach
relationship seems to get cancelled pretty fast once that relationship starts to be expanded upon. Feels very performative
DarkwingDuc
I don't watch many Disney films. I was talking about hosting Pride events for over 3 decades, before it was common or other corps joined in.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
Everything but the first
bipolarmom83
Easilyflustered
All of the above but it still benefits a positive direction in society. You can actively support companies that do so while understanding Y
Imapseudonym
Who cares as long as it's done.
Xenarion
Disney already received hate from conservative for whatever futile reason, so they have nothing to loose.
TooRexyForMyShirt
Yes.
vicvalour
Well, 3/4 ain't bad
vicvalour
jmartkdr
Bright side: LGBT+ acceptance is so high that excluding them (and allies) costs more than excluding homophobes.
skipweasel
Yeah - that's what I thought.
SomeHippy
What's he gonna do about it? Ban Disney? That would cripple Florida's economy *1 week later* Wow.... he's really gonna ban Disney........
TeeweeAndSmashboy
He’ll puff his chest, and sabre rattle, all as a show to his voter base in the lead up to his run for POTUS. It’s all hype! 1/2
TeeweeAndSmashboy
2/2 once he’s gone, Florida will continue to kowtow to Disney.
varyael
Considering disney is the largest entertainment company in the world, makes sense they dont want to piss off 90% of Americans being bigoted
ruferto
they're the largest entertainment company in the world, i dont think it's possible for them to be. diversity hires alone would ensure it
Xenarion
True, but they don't need to host anything for that. They can just not do anything.
varyael
*by being bigoted
kubi
I also imagine the bigots are already boycotting Disney for other reasons.
varyael
Exactly, Disney would be stupid to cater to obviously unstable bigots, considering their ties to many different minority groups
FlatPlutoSociety
Probably not. Yelling about Disney on Twitter? Sure. But Disney is a very hard company to actually boycott, and chuds have no discipline.
varyael
They'll burn dvds they already own like the idiots they are, then buy more when their kids complain for long enough
varyael
So for disney, they gain business with inclusion and double stick it to the bigots because they have every finger in children's movie pie
Absent
I wish 90% of Americans cared, I really do...
varyael
Only about half of eligible voters do so, lots of kids, immigrants. Of half the voters, half are GOP and half of those are the vocal bigots
varyael
Broken down, 90% of Americans just want to live their lives and want other Americans to do that too. The loud assholes aren't even 10%
Absent
This may indeed be true, but apathy is sometimes equally dangerous.
Enoan
The market share of pro-LGBT is larger than anti-LGBT, but the majority don't really care one way or the other.
alcamar
I wish 70% cared
KiwiGameDev
As an international looking into the hellscape eternally worried what’s gonna happen when this all bursts, I’ll settle for 51%
painstream
We barely get a third to care, and half of the ones that do are arseholes who vote against caring.
InfocalypseRising
Mostly the last two. But doing the right thing for the wrong reason is still better than doing the wrong thing
UmAcshually
Yup. ~90% of Disney's political donations are to Dems, ~10% to Rs https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/walt-disney-co/recipients?id=d000000128 >
UmAcshually
100% are legalized bribery, for corporations to gain more political power they shouldn't have... But at least it's for the smaller evil.
FlatPlutoSociety
Exactly. It's a good example of an amoral good act.
Euchre
Ah, new motto for the GOP "Doing the wrong thing for no reason."
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Unfortunately, they have some really really fucked up reasons.
NivalisAngelus
/a/zE2LCz7
Euchre
An illogical and invalid reason is no reason at all. Consider the word 'reason' itself. They aren't reasoning, they're trying to excuse.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
I was using a secondary definition of "reason" synonymous with "motivation".