BluesFish
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Is it just me, or is this just incredible?
(sound on, ofc)
Sauce: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoqQJ8GAWJO/?igshid=OGIzYTJhMTRmYQ==
Jul 4, 2023 4:55 AM
BluesFish
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Is it just me, or is this just incredible?
(sound on, ofc)
Sauce: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoqQJ8GAWJO/?igshid=OGIzYTJhMTRmYQ==
BeeWoman
Always tearing up when I hear this one
PlasticFicus
I no longer know what it was like with music. Beautiful. Thank you.
1Monty
Great group, like so many others back in the day.
HandsomePenguin
Wonderful harmonies
FlintNorth44
Oof
sendmepedropascal
MrHappySmiles
They don’t need anything, but I’m gonna miss that wild flute solo..
picklemunkey
Eddie Hazel, of Funkadelic, did a great version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqDGTT2OtsQ
aceoftricks
"Preacher locked the door" not "liked the cold". The Preacher is not waiting for the singer to leave guessing (correctly) that the singer needs the place to sleep for the night.
dwolvin
Crazy how skilled some singers are.
kaarbaakimgr
They could do this professionally
DeguRatface
I miss when everyone didn't have to have a perfect singing voice. These people aren't perfect by today's standards but they sounded great and their music has soul. Just feels like the music industry is exceptionally more elitist these days.
pattersontim14
Queen: https://youtu.be/KHYjIIJ14MI
lala6633
The blond girl was one of the boys girlfriends and he wanted her to sing. She said she wasn’t a singer and he told her all girls are singers.
dollarstoredonuts
So cool!! I think there's a YouTube account that isolates vocals in songs, the beach boys harmonies are unreal, like on good vibrations. https://youtu.be/Foa9Luk88sw
ivymantled69
That’s incredible
komeonnow
https://youtube.com/@IsolatedTracks2023
dollarstoredonuts
🤘🤘🤘
SonnyVabitch
I had never realised how much attitude he puts into KNEES since normally the music and the girls drown him out.
vaiperu
I can still hear the bass line when he sings the "walked into a church" :))
somechick
Hate this song because I worked in retail. Fuck you rite aid.
newsguycraigevans
I feel the same way about a few other songs. Heard them so many fucking times that I just never want to hear them again.
Chaplain415
Rest in Peace, Mama Cass.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
I don't know the name of the soloist, but my 8 year old neighbor looks just like him. But shorter.
leroy666
Denny Doherty.
alltheweirdisbrown
I have been summoned
Becker37
Back when people had to have talent
waeraj
If you listen really close on the original you can hear one extra voice.
AvidLebon
Who?
waeraj
Barry McGuire
NovaOdin
Shaolin Kung Fu ho yeah. Ho ho yeah.
southpawsforeffect
dun ho yea
McPuffinStuff
Howeirdly
Hearing her pure voice brings tears to my eyes. (Sigh)
MadHatter69
I fucking love The Carpenters
Lurkingmemethief
This feels like a lullaby.
Dooknugget
To me, one of the most beautiful voices ever.
HJVN
A little long, 18min. Karen carpenter pitch perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWB96ZLWUUw
ivymantled69
I DON’T know why, but female American singers have the smoothest, warmest, most appealing voices to me. Karen Carpenter, Dusty Springfield, Julie London… something about the accent?
HenryGant
Waht ar yue Scottish?
drduffer
* Linda Ronstadt
derschweiz
Yes. Nobody like her, doubt there ever will be
maobezw
Anneliese Braun...
D7ve
Always thought it was "began to pray". Pretend is much better
littlelordgenius
I watched video specifically about this lyric a couple months ago and it blew my mind. It changes the whole meaning of the song. He just went in the church to get warm, not to talk to god. The priest knows this, but also knows it’s too cold to leave.
SilverFish0
Amazing how you can't hear the guitar
Macetheace50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YAcOPPRpVY&ab_channel=TheBeachBoysVEVO The Beach Boys - California Dreamin' (Official Music Video). An honorable mention by the Beach Boys!
AdorableBastard
Also this version by Lee Moses is astonishing imho: https://youtu.be/4YBdr5vVqvs
HaikuSorrow
Thank you for sharing that! Brilliant.
AdorableBastard
Glad you liked it! The whole album, "Time and Place" is amazing. :)
EllenVanThom
anneliese braun
schmau
Danke, diesen Kommentar habe ich gesucht! +1
EllenVanThom
so findet man die deutschen :D
schmau
*deutschsprachigen ;)
Zappers42
As a vocal performer who occasionally does audio engineering, the guy holding the mic is giving me an aneurism
rivitingone
How would one isolate vocals?
Manfredsinginson
One way is to use an app like Steinberg's Spectral Layers
dingo8yrbaby
I love this, but my favorite isolated vocal still remains Merry Clayton singing backup on the Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter".
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
But have you heard Lisa Fisher do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhy_17_DExU
lnecrymm
She was on radio 6 the other day talking about her life. Amazing stories
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
Check out Grace Potter (not isolated) but pretty good: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ps9xy2iaSs
enybi
Source please?
dingo8yrbaby
And here's the entire song. https://youtu.be/ilGVDgZj5mA
dingo8yrbaby
Here ya go. Sixty years later it still puts a chill up my spine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdACTl2myMA
conejitabuena
Super talented. I wish they weren't tainted by what came out about John Phillips eventually
Blue4Five
The abuse allegations are interesting. Mackenzie was a hard core drug user, so they seem to be debatable with most who knew him. Could have been a drug fueled psychosis on her part.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
True. Drug addicts never get raped.
conejitabuena
Several people who knew him, including his bandmate Denny Dougherty, seem pretty willing to believe it
FlintNorth44
You are one sick fuck
nelsie020
Could it be, that a victim of abuse had a drug problem? No, it must have been a figment of the female’s imagination
LtColDijon42
This! Omg yes! My own parents tell me they abused me because I was on drugs. Like no bitch, you were beating me senseless when I was 5. The drugs made your abuse tolerable.
noneofthemknewtheywererobots
Well his other daughter defended him…but she also defended her husband Danny Masterson sooo…….
Zaboom16
True that
IamAlbertPotato
Mama Cass was a veritable drug hoover as well
JesusAssCrackers
I can handle that over absolute nausea inducing incest abuse they’re miles apart
vegivamp
Which is not a problem. Abuse is.
TheDentDad
Even more incredible that they didn’t have $20k worth of vocal processing behind them.
Grapeape2000
If you like that check out Cindy Lauper: https://youtu.be/whgG-XOPHhc
Grapeape2000
OR https://youtu.be/InBEDl7vzpA
RhymingEverything
I love how 'down to earth' their voices feel
Deiterhaman
LSD was legal then. They could see the music
DarkSock
CBadger
That's still processed. There's reverb happening there that hides a lot of crimes.
32193000
Plus compression and eq and natural tape distortion.
Sfingks
Yes it's impressive even compared to older bands like the Bee Gees, who often used production techniques to enhance their voices, like recording dozens of layers of their own voices (a manual version of autotune, basically).
dirtbagatheart
um yeah they had 20K worth of processing, but it's still amazing
32193000
Ummm there was tape and eq
32193000
And reverb. Long Capitol reverb
ChristopherHallett
So where did all that echo come from? Did they record the lyrics in a cathedral?
imsofreakintired
Every time you say things like this, a T-Pain cries
Gofdunk
Not really. He is just sighing and that is auto tuned into a cry.
32193000
But we're on a boat
32193000
Everybody look at us cause we're sailing on a boat
akspartankiiier
HmmMMMmmmMmMmmMMMmm
wellshy
Analogue gear and microphones from that time are worth tens of thousands… because it sounds so good (like this!). Look up vintage u87 mics, or a neve console. Consoles can go for 100k alone. Digital processing is mostly trying to emulate the sound of gear from the 60s/70s - the golden era of recording!
32193000
Ummmmm analogue stuff stil exists
beenbannedb4
In 1980 a 32x24 console cost 100k, a 24-track recorder 80k and a U87 2.5k; also, most of the sound of 'the golden era' came from the studio room acoustics and experienced engineers, two things that are missing nowadays and can't be emulated.
omgdrd4bbq
Yeah, folks forget all the bad recordings, flops, has-runs, and instead are left with the top 0.1% of the past half century of brilliant musicians at the best studios mastered by engineers with amazing ears. It's the golden era because all the bronze is discarded.
Emjayen
Audiophiles are gullible crackpots. More news at 11.
unluckyandbored
Begs the question, if it's that good, why hasn't someone started building them that way again?
ztygs
https://youtu.be/m37G-06ibAU
pixelsnader
LakuTheSemiscient
They do but it's as expensive as ever and most bands don't have / get the budget to work in those studios
omgdrd4bbq
Haha, no. Digital processing is mostly about reproducing the highest fidelity possible throughout the pipeline, then applying whatever effects the artist wants. You can always add the transfer function of a u87 or a tape deck, you can't take it away. Nyquist-Shannon theorem means we can quantize and still exactly reproduce the original signal exactly. I'd say now is actually the golden age of recording, because it's so much cheaper and easier to get quality sound.
wellshy
I think we’re answering different questions here. Digital is great for preserving quality for sure, but there’s a reason most plugins are emulations of analogue gear. And if I compare something like an amp simulator to a recording through a real amp, the difference is night and day to my ear. But ofc digital is great and you wouldn’t catch me trying to splice tape ;)
lpooptoomuch
not sure about microphones but I read that old electric guitars had hand spun magnets in the pickups and the imperfections from doing that is what gave each guitar its own unique sound as oppose to modern ones that are done exactly the same every time by a machine.
omgdrd4bbq
Sounds a bit like musician woo. Jim Lill has tested dozens of factors in his video series "Where does the tone come from in electric guitars" that musicians say "absolutely affects the tone" and there are only a few key properties.
lpooptoomuch
just watched that video, the very first test was comparing pickups of a vintage stack to modern and it's the only huge difference in the video that I could hear
Grimmrog
tbh, a huge amount of "singers" nowdays can't even sing at all. thats why they all need that processing.
fign37
It’s all about carisma more than talent nowadays
udmurt
Always has been.
mantabloke
and how many Instagram followers they have
32193000
No
lrateyourrig
Even moreso now, charisma!
yepitspuck
"nowadays" I'm near 50 and I've heard that complaint my whole life.
madeejit
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Ididnotknowthatwecouldchangethese
It's all subjective and what not but most of my favorite singers don't have a "good" voice, they have an iconic one, and all of the processing these days just takes away from the "soul" of the music
241huthuthut
Did someone say Janis Joplin?
kayaker01
Bob Dylan.
AliceAndRabbit
I agree with it being subjective. In highschool, I liked Owl City A LOT. Then I heard him live, and he is AWFUL at singing. But you know what? He created music that I enjoyed despite being a shitty vocalist and musician. I see the tech as a boost for average folk to create something others might enjoy. It also makes good vocalists and musicians all that more respected (to me). But yeah, we are saturated with processed music.
O5IRI5
No but they had multitrack recording and put dozens of layers of vocals on top of each other to sound like that.
Pokedthebear
Multitrackrecording with several magnet tapes. not as fake as autotune today.
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TinyLiehon
Multitrack recording?
HandoB4Javert
8 track max - probably 2 each https://web.archive.org/web/20110709015223/https://www.mixonline.com/mag/audio_mamas_papas_california/
HandoB4Javert
The new vocals by The Mamas & The Papas were laid atop the original track, which fortunately was in the right key because the 4-track Ampex 300 recorder (which was basically two 2-track decks' electronics in a taller tower with new headstacks) didn't have much in the way of VSO capability. Howe set up the vocals the way the group naturally stood: the men and women facing each other, close in, each group with its own RCA DX-77 microphone.
HandoB4Javert
“I took the two mics and set them in a directional cardioid pattern, with the dead sides facing each other,” Howe explains. “That gave us great rejection and allowed them to sing naturally. The song starts out with the guys singing ‘All the leaves are brown’ and the girls answering the lines. It's pretty much the group all the way through except for a few lines that Denny sang solo. When the time came for that, John walked around to sing at the girls' microphone.”
pookieeatworld
I wonder where this was recorded, cuz the room sounds amazing, but the reverb they used was incredible, too.
AxellTheDragon
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Love those insights into the production. Do you know how they did their reverb?
0570
I thought your name was Handjob4Javert. Excellent info though!