Aug 28, 2020 6:17 PM
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#memes#the_more_you_know#mushrooms#insomnia
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Apparently the spores are not illegal.
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
For now
VagrantKoba
Actually, the sale of deadly mushrooms for consumption is illegal.
GlobularCloyster
Knives aren’t illegal?
mpangelu
All mushrooms are edible . Some are edible more than once
Crazyaussiecanadian
Paint is also not illegal, yet will likely kill you if you drink a gallon of it.
TargetedAdBot
Quite sure you'll get charge of at least manslaughter for making a pie from toxic mushrooms and serving it to someone.
TheFreemen
that's because psychedelics threatened the conservative power structure back in hippy times so they banned them along with cannabis.
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
I just ordered some from a store in Vancouver, bmwo
dudekazoo
It's also not illegal to buy rat poison which will kill you if you eat it. What is the point here?
Ilovestormswolvesbees
They can’t make money off the ones that kill you
SCP1504
CheeseborgarSoop
All the good mind expanding drugs are illegal.
Snooj
Well, no need to arrest you after eating those mushrooms. The problem corrects itself without involving legislation.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
You can actually buy psilocybin spores online (I personally haven’t, but apparently it’s pretty easy).
circlebreaker
They're ridiculously easy to grow, but challenging to grow 'properly'. See: Infected mushrooms (not the DJs) & the effects of fucking it up.
imsoupercereal
Only for your scientific research, buying them to grow is illegal.
JoelSlBaron
Every time I try to get some sleep ?
Querzis
So? That would be like making jumping off a bridge illegal. Kind of pointless ain't it?
AnathemaNoreh
Nail polish remover is legal, but also toxic and will kill you if ingested. Or a wood chipper is legal but also murder? Context is key
YesButAlsoYes
People typically don’t grow death caps for recreational use, they’re out in nature. What are you gonna do, put a warrant out on the forest?
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
v
RoovyRoo
Bro...
TacticalComputerRestart
worldsokayestspeler
Theres plenty of drugs that are safe but illegal, whereas drinking bleach will kill you and isnt just legal, but encouraged by the president
Hedgehogger9
This is dumb lol. You don’t need to make a law to disincentivize every way a person could kill themselves/others.
No but it shows the hypocrisy when they say “it’s illegal because it’s bad for you”. When the actual stuff that’s bad for you isn’t illegal.
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
It's basically a darwinism exemption. If they survive, then they shouldn't be punished for it.
Camelspotting
Killing yourself or others is illegal.
xxoctavianxx
well they cant have you having fun, now can they
MrRandom314159
https://dilbert.com/strip/1993-07-08
Twiddist
Hallucinogenics weaken the simulation.
iDrinkDrano
Many of the illegal substances are sold back to you over the counter except psychoactives, which were made illegal to help target the 1/2
2/2 cultural revolutions starting under their influence. Nixon(?) didn't like those people, so criminalized what they did to control 'em.
laserfork
Yes, Nixon specifically targeted marijuana to criminalize the hippie movement, and crack to criminalize black communities. War on Drugs, lol
notomhax
Bro I don't do mushrooms.. But I've heard not every trip is fun. Sometimes it's horrifying. My Uber driver in Portland described it as (1)
egrac
Set and setting are everything. Gotta be in the right mental state
zigbigidorlu
Hitting a shopping cart with a frankfurter while pole dancing. I couldn't believe grandma took up a job as an Uber driver. (2)
IMightBeStupid
Same applies to any psychedelic, you need to know what you're getting into and be prepared before you take it. That doesn't mean they're bad
the second gate from Never Ending Story. He said the trip made him see himself for who he truly was and hated what he saw. YMMV (2/2)
RegnaroftheNorth
Every trip removes your bullshit filter, that’s what helps you grow.
Also, research suggests one high dose, used in therapeutic setting can have a lasting impact on depression, addiction, OCD, etc on majority>
Lickstein
How much is a high dose?
20-30 mg per 70kg or about 3.5 g (dried) of your average psilocybin shrooms. So a typical “trip” dosage. 78% of research participants in >
20mg per 70kg was shown to be the best dose for keeping positive benefits and minimizing risk of a “bad trip”
Kbantar
Why would you need a law against things virtually no one wants to do? You make laws against things that need force to prevent.
DazzlingCockroach
A law against the collection and distribution of deadly mushrooms would actually help people be informed about which ones are deadly.
It would also reduce the amount of times deadly mushrooms are mistaken for edible ones and distributed.
CanadianEngineer
The FDA has laws against the sale of unsafe food. Also, I don’t see how legislating something educates people on which mushrooms are edible.
narotu63
I agree, legal action makes no sense here.
Ripplingtwinkie
To think, a hundred years ago soda fountains were putting cannibis and heroin in rootbeer floats for businessmen on their lunch breaks.
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
The true meaning of maga
Ninjainslippers
Trump really did make America great again then didn't he? Working from home I can finally get high as shit at lunch and nobody knows.
ChokerFan
Lunch? Shit I've been high since March.
NoRoutesFound
Sameeeee
daveisamonster
March? I've been high since y2k
MamaRosie
Normies. I was high as a zygote.
dan144
Ah, the good old days of soda fountains. And now here we are, rubes who only get water fountains.
RoastedSalted
Except all the water fountains are closed, too...
AFistfulOfDollHairs
Well we also get chocolate fountains and cheese fountains and I’ve even seen gravy fountains so there’s no limit if you don’t implement one.
EMTsaidwhat
Clearly you've never been to Canada ??
I live here actually
I like the quote, "There's no limit if you don't implement one." that's gold right there.
bogus1983
THC soda exists, so we could probably go full circle on that one...
Sevulturus
I'm going to steal the phrase, "there's no limit if you don't implement one."
Lmao just commented the same without seeing this. It needs to be cross stitched onto something.
DancesWithHedgehogs
This one is CEO material.
Can’t be used as prison fodder if you’re dead. Which means you’re useless as far as government funding is concerned.
hiimhar
Yeah I have some people telling me a few posts back that there is no evidence that recidivism is tied to privatized prison systems.
Not in the US, because our public prisons are also for profit.
ShadowMageAlpha
I mean... so what if it's good for business for people to not be rehabilitated? That's just like... a coincidence. The system's not broke.
/s
SacrificesForCthulhu
But it's legal to eat the deadly mushrooms... It's illegal to eat the ones that make you start seeing koopas.
Nurich
Well what should they charge you for eating deadly mushrooms? A lifetime?
Yeah I know, that’s why I’m in agreement with the post.
shadefang
No need to make it so you can arrest someone who's dead. Corpses don't work well as prison labor.
ferafish
Would that not fall under suicide laws?
OrangeFlavours
Some of them are, but they're not all illegal because they're not worried about you using them on yourself, since they're, poison.
DazzelingToad
A lot of the US legislation for psychoactive substances was created so that hippies could be arrested, the public health was secondary.
I mean, that's literally the point of the entire war of drugs, to arrest people they hate, just pointing out the post is stupid though.
Common last words of accidental poisoned mushroom eater: "most delicious mushroom I've ever had." Sorry, don't have a link.
Technically they're all poisonous, it's just a question of how poisonous. Doesn't necessarily kill them. Like a super spicy pepper. 1/
2/ Delicious? Sure. Immediately uncomfortable a minute later? Yes. Significant regrets? Surely.
BythepowerofchristIamtheLaderlappen
When will they make weed legal everywhere? It's the one med that I know helps.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
When there's no more stupid old people who are scared of it and vote for authoritarians who in turn use it to fill prisons with and 1/?
Pass on all the profits/slave labor to their corporate owners 2/2
Eifrum
Pharma said no. They want that pill money.
Vortality
you just answered why it won't be legalized
Truth, big pharma would be in A LOT of financial trouble if people didn’t need their overpriced prescription medications anymore.
getguds
when they're able to monopolize it as a product and bankrupt you from it.
NorwegianSheepknuller
Don't really have a personal stake in this race since it makes me dizzy and puke everytime, but I don't see no problem as long 1/2
2/2 as it is regulated like alcohol, no driving, no working and so forth.
TheSovietUnion
When they've repealed the thirteenth amendment entirely. Hell, they might just shred the whole document since they don't use it.
Avanchnzel
Psilocibin has been documented to have lasting positive mental affects up to a year after ingestion. Healthy people don't make money.
This. Yes. And good for cluster headaches. I don't go nuts but maybe once every other year is golden for me.
Cthulhuonabike
3000 years of documented usage and not one death by overdose, but clearly its too dangerous for civilian use
whyexactly
plenty of gang/cartel related deaths once they made it illegal though
itsahorse
At least alcohol which has confirmed deaths, injuries, damage e.t.c. is illeg.......oh wait
Counterfit
Mice have to consume 50 joints worth of THC for it to be lethal. Scale that up to humans, and you'd probably die from the CO2 first.
IIRC when I did the napkin math the ld50 for pot was around a pound and a half of the concentrated oil.
Nippledeepinahorse
A lb of weed will kill a human being. If it's dropped on your head from high enough.
Then I'll gladly die trying, besides, 4 blunts in I'll be sober
Monka42
Look, I love weed. But if you have heart problems, it's bad for you. I still smoke it because life sucks, but it's not good for me.
OldJedi
Same goes for sugar and fast food.
greentights
But you can have lotion or drops or soft gels or even suppositories to get the pain relief
I'm actually looking into CBD products more. Still gotta do research for chemical interactions with my heart meds but CBD reduces a lot of
zhukaya92
CBD's rise has been a godsend. My mom used to smoke with me to ease her pain but it worried me because she has a bad heart. No worry now.
Chest pain and rapid hr from different heart problems.
You could make the same statement (probably more accurately) about tobacco and yet here we are
TavisMcNamara
Alcohol, anyone?
Oh definitely. I just don't agree with the idea that it's harmless. Should be legal like everything else. But it's not completely harmless,
At least for me.
It's effectively harmless compared to legal recreational drugs, and many foods.
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Apparently the spores are not illegal.
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
For now
VagrantKoba
Actually, the sale of deadly mushrooms for consumption is illegal.
GlobularCloyster
Knives aren’t illegal?
mpangelu
All mushrooms are edible . Some are edible more than once
Crazyaussiecanadian
Paint is also not illegal, yet will likely kill you if you drink a gallon of it.
TargetedAdBot
Quite sure you'll get charge of at least manslaughter for making a pie from toxic mushrooms and serving it to someone.
TheFreemen
that's because psychedelics threatened the conservative power structure back in hippy times so they banned them along with cannabis.
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
I just ordered some from a store in Vancouver, bmwo
dudekazoo
It's also not illegal to buy rat poison which will kill you if you eat it. What is the point here?
Ilovestormswolvesbees
They can’t make money off the ones that kill you
SCP1504
CheeseborgarSoop
All the good mind expanding drugs are illegal.
Snooj
Well, no need to arrest you after eating those mushrooms. The problem corrects itself without involving legislation.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
You can actually buy psilocybin spores online (I personally haven’t, but apparently it’s pretty easy).
circlebreaker
They're ridiculously easy to grow, but challenging to grow 'properly'. See: Infected mushrooms (not the DJs) & the effects of fucking it up.
imsoupercereal
Only for your scientific research, buying them to grow is illegal.
JoelSlBaron
Every time I try to get some sleep ?
Querzis
So? That would be like making jumping off a bridge illegal. Kind of pointless ain't it?
AnathemaNoreh
Nail polish remover is legal, but also toxic and will kill you if ingested. Or a wood chipper is legal but also murder? Context is key
YesButAlsoYes
People typically don’t grow death caps for recreational use, they’re out in nature. What are you gonna do, put a warrant out on the forest?
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
RoovyRoo
Bro...
TacticalComputerRestart
worldsokayestspeler
Theres plenty of drugs that are safe but illegal, whereas drinking bleach will kill you and isnt just legal, but encouraged by the president
Hedgehogger9
This is dumb lol. You don’t need to make a law to disincentivize every way a person could kill themselves/others.
SCP1504
No but it shows the hypocrisy when they say “it’s illegal because it’s bad for you”. When the actual stuff that’s bad for you isn’t illegal.
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
It's basically a darwinism exemption. If they survive, then they shouldn't be punished for it.
Camelspotting
Killing yourself or others is illegal.
xxoctavianxx
well they cant have you having fun, now can they
MrRandom314159
https://dilbert.com/strip/1993-07-08
Twiddist
Hallucinogenics weaken the simulation.
iDrinkDrano
Many of the illegal substances are sold back to you over the counter except psychoactives, which were made illegal to help target the 1/2
iDrinkDrano
2/2 cultural revolutions starting under their influence. Nixon(?) didn't like those people, so criminalized what they did to control 'em.
laserfork
Yes, Nixon specifically targeted marijuana to criminalize the hippie movement, and crack to criminalize black communities. War on Drugs, lol
notomhax
Bro I don't do mushrooms.. But I've heard not every trip is fun. Sometimes it's horrifying. My Uber driver in Portland described it as (1)
egrac
Set and setting are everything. Gotta be in the right mental state
zigbigidorlu
Hitting a shopping cart with a frankfurter while pole dancing. I couldn't believe grandma took up a job as an Uber driver. (2)
IMightBeStupid
Same applies to any psychedelic, you need to know what you're getting into and be prepared before you take it. That doesn't mean they're bad
notomhax
the second gate from Never Ending Story. He said the trip made him see himself for who he truly was and hated what he saw. YMMV (2/2)
RegnaroftheNorth
Every trip removes your bullshit filter, that’s what helps you grow.
egrac
Also, research suggests one high dose, used in therapeutic setting can have a lasting impact on depression, addiction, OCD, etc on majority>
egrac
Lickstein
How much is a high dose?
egrac
20-30 mg per 70kg or about 3.5 g (dried) of your average psilocybin shrooms. So a typical “trip” dosage. 78% of research participants in >
egrac
egrac
20mg per 70kg was shown to be the best dose for keeping positive benefits and minimizing risk of a “bad trip”
Kbantar
Why would you need a law against things virtually no one wants to do? You make laws against things that need force to prevent.
DazzlingCockroach
A law against the collection and distribution of deadly mushrooms would actually help people be informed about which ones are deadly.
DazzlingCockroach
It would also reduce the amount of times deadly mushrooms are mistaken for edible ones and distributed.
CanadianEngineer
The FDA has laws against the sale of unsafe food. Also, I don’t see how legislating something educates people on which mushrooms are edible.
narotu63
I agree, legal action makes no sense here.
Ripplingtwinkie
To think, a hundred years ago soda fountains were putting cannibis and heroin in rootbeer floats for businessmen on their lunch breaks.
GoblinOfPoliticalSuccubus
The true meaning of maga
Ninjainslippers
Trump really did make America great again then didn't he? Working from home I can finally get high as shit at lunch and nobody knows.
ChokerFan
Lunch? Shit I've been high since March.
NoRoutesFound
Sameeeee
daveisamonster
March? I've been high since y2k
MamaRosie
Normies. I was high as a zygote.
dan144
Ah, the good old days of soda fountains. And now here we are, rubes who only get water fountains.
RoastedSalted
Except all the water fountains are closed, too...
AFistfulOfDollHairs
Well we also get chocolate fountains and cheese fountains and I’ve even seen gravy fountains so there’s no limit if you don’t implement one.
EMTsaidwhat
Clearly you've never been to Canada ??
AFistfulOfDollHairs
I live here actually
MamaRosie
I like the quote, "There's no limit if you don't implement one." that's gold right there.
bogus1983
THC soda exists, so we could probably go full circle on that one...
Sevulturus
I'm going to steal the phrase, "there's no limit if you don't implement one."
MamaRosie
Lmao just commented the same without seeing this. It needs to be cross stitched onto something.
DancesWithHedgehogs
This one is CEO material.
SCP1504
Can’t be used as prison fodder if you’re dead. Which means you’re useless as far as government funding is concerned.
hiimhar
Yeah I have some people telling me a few posts back that there is no evidence that recidivism is tied to privatized prison systems.
Camelspotting
Not in the US, because our public prisons are also for profit.
ShadowMageAlpha
I mean... so what if it's good for business for people to not be rehabilitated? That's just like... a coincidence. The system's not broke.
ShadowMageAlpha
/s
SacrificesForCthulhu
But it's legal to eat the deadly mushrooms... It's illegal to eat the ones that make you start seeing koopas.
Nurich
Well what should they charge you for eating deadly mushrooms? A lifetime?
SCP1504
Yeah I know, that’s why I’m in agreement with the post.
shadefang
No need to make it so you can arrest someone who's dead. Corpses don't work well as prison labor.
ferafish
Would that not fall under suicide laws?
OrangeFlavours
Some of them are, but they're not all illegal because they're not worried about you using them on yourself, since they're, poison.
DazzelingToad
A lot of the US legislation for psychoactive substances was created so that hippies could be arrested, the public health was secondary.
OrangeFlavours
I mean, that's literally the point of the entire war of drugs, to arrest people they hate, just pointing out the post is stupid though.
DancesWithHedgehogs
Common last words of accidental poisoned mushroom eater: "most delicious mushroom I've ever had." Sorry, don't have a link.
OrangeFlavours
Technically they're all poisonous, it's just a question of how poisonous. Doesn't necessarily kill them. Like a super spicy pepper. 1/
OrangeFlavours
2/ Delicious? Sure. Immediately uncomfortable a minute later? Yes. Significant regrets? Surely.
BythepowerofchristIamtheLaderlappen
When will they make weed legal everywhere? It's the one med that I know helps.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
When there's no more stupid old people who are scared of it and vote for authoritarians who in turn use it to fill prisons with and 1/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Pass on all the profits/slave labor to their corporate owners 2/2
Eifrum
Pharma said no. They want that pill money.
Vortality
you just answered why it won't be legalized
SCP1504
Truth, big pharma would be in A LOT of financial trouble if people didn’t need their overpriced prescription medications anymore.
getguds
when they're able to monopolize it as a product and bankrupt you from it.
NorwegianSheepknuller
Don't really have a personal stake in this race since it makes me dizzy and puke everytime, but I don't see no problem as long 1/2
NorwegianSheepknuller
2/2 as it is regulated like alcohol, no driving, no working and so forth.
TheSovietUnion
When they've repealed the thirteenth amendment entirely. Hell, they might just shred the whole document since they don't use it.
Avanchnzel
Psilocibin has been documented to have lasting positive mental affects up to a year after ingestion. Healthy people don't make money.
NoRoutesFound
This. Yes. And good for cluster headaches. I don't go nuts but maybe once every other year is golden for me.
Cthulhuonabike
3000 years of documented usage and not one death by overdose, but clearly its too dangerous for civilian use
whyexactly
plenty of gang/cartel related deaths once they made it illegal though
itsahorse
At least alcohol which has confirmed deaths, injuries, damage e.t.c. is illeg.......oh wait
Counterfit
Mice have to consume 50 joints worth of THC for it to be lethal. Scale that up to humans, and you'd probably die from the CO2 first.
shadefang
IIRC when I did the napkin math the ld50 for pot was around a pound and a half of the concentrated oil.
Nippledeepinahorse
A lb of weed will kill a human being. If it's dropped on your head from high enough.
BythepowerofchristIamtheLaderlappen
Then I'll gladly die trying, besides, 4 blunts in I'll be sober
Monka42
Look, I love weed. But if you have heart problems, it's bad for you. I still smoke it because life sucks, but it's not good for me.
OldJedi
Same goes for sugar and fast food.
greentights
But you can have lotion or drops or soft gels or even suppositories to get the pain relief
Monka42
I'm actually looking into CBD products more. Still gotta do research for chemical interactions with my heart meds but CBD reduces a lot of
zhukaya92
CBD's rise has been a godsend. My mom used to smoke with me to ease her pain but it worried me because she has a bad heart. No worry now.
Monka42
Chest pain and rapid hr from different heart problems.
Cthulhuonabike
You could make the same statement (probably more accurately) about tobacco and yet here we are
TavisMcNamara
Alcohol, anyone?
Monka42
Oh definitely. I just don't agree with the idea that it's harmless. Should be legal like everything else. But it's not completely harmless,
Monka42
At least for me.
shadefang
It's effectively harmless compared to legal recreational drugs, and many foods.