The thing that pisses me off is that thanks to the UK's absurd actions even more people are going to be listening to these stupid dirtbag assholes and their idiotic, ignorant political hot takes.
He says real men shouldn't feel like fathers when playing a game called PRAGMATA, which puts the player in a fatherly role over a robot that looks and acts like a 6-year-old kid: “If you are a f—ng lonely gamer who has never been around with a woman and will never have sex with a woman, why do you care? Like, what do you care about, having children or like riding for having children?” He also says that male gamers should worry more about Cheetos flavors than being father types.
No kidding. Brits were always in here critcizing our clown show and then they let this happen in their own home. Most shocking to me are the attacks against free speech and protest and what appears to be complacency of the general public.
Yeah so... if you actually read into this, it was just his ETA (a 6 month version of the normal Visa) that was revoked. He can still apply for a normal Visa though. That might get denied as well, but the cult of personality around this man is already too much so they'll believe anything he tells them. Not sure why they revoked his ETA, maybe they're dog lovers and don't like seeing dogs be tortured for Twitch views?
there was no real concrete proof he shocked his dog there, and even if he did it's like, people feel more sympathy for a dog than they do humans somehow, Im not a hassan watcher but usually when i see people freak out over him it's for some general leftist takes or being mad at america for being fucked up that gets said by many other people, meanwhile asmongold gets banned from twitch and comes back and says how much he loves genocide constantly and i haven't seen him get any visa's pulled.
The right doesn't even care about Hasan, and he never attacks them anyway. It's much safer to be a rich nepo-baby in a Beverly Hills mansion who only criticizes Democrats with disinformation campaigns. I bet he even thinks Kamala would have indicted him like Trump did lol, after all they're "exactly the same" according to him.
The collar he used was ID'd as the shocking version, not the vibrating version. He pulled the pins off and put some tape over it to make it look like the vibrating version, but they have completely different shapes and the charging port is in a different place. The Hasan PR firm will tell you people get mad at him for having "Leftist" views, but there's nothing "Leftist" about calling for the deaths of civilians, and even children... He is a bad person.
Just a downvote with no response? This is what happens when you get all your news from a fake Leftist millionaire who is beholden to a billionaire. Neither of them want to pay taxes, so they pump out relentless anti-Democrat propaganda.
Oh right, he also said America deserved 9/11, and doubled down when confronted on it. Anyone who thinks civilians should die is a piece of shit and I hope they never live it down.
He literally has a PR Firm lol, he's represented by the same talent agency as Asmongold too. Also, you can't respond because there's nothing in my post that's incorrect...
Sigh… lovely when a chud states ‘if you don’t give me a paragraph of evidence disagreeing then I’m right’ You’re wrong, Asmon was dropped from mythic talent and Hasan is under Night media. Two entirely different agencies. The collar gate is based on an assumption his dog was shocked which has no evidence. And he never has stated for death of children. That’s insane and you likely saw that from your favorite clipping grifter.
I get banning Hasan Piker. He openly supports terrorist organizations. He said America deserved 9/11. Said his favorite flag was Hezbollah. He's an extremist piece of shit. Cenk hasn't said anything ban worthy to my knowledge
any and all who suck the cock of Russia so hard like Hasan, is not welcome in Europe. he LITERALLY SAID Russia deserves Crimea and that the Soviet Union's fall was an utter shame.
Just to note I'm not the initial person you responded to. But yeah as you can tell from the downvotes on you as well now, people here really don't care, just because he's against Israel apparently he is suddenly a good person. He's still supporting terrorists, these things don't just cancel each other out.
I'm not a Zionist at all. I believe Israel is treating Palestinians the same way Nazi Germany treated the Jews and needs to be brought up on charges at the ICC. Everything I said about Hasan is documented fact. Just because I dont like him doesn't mean I support genocide.
They're pretty much the same as the tories they replaced. Said tories are further right now than before.
Labour mostly won the election because the right wing vote got split between tories and reform (reform are like the tories but worse. More racist. More incompetent.)
Appeasement from the left is how conservatives have been able to push the U.S. Overton Window steadily rightward for the past few decades. Once the left shows willingness to take even a single step rightward, the step they vacated is suddenly shut off by the left edge of the Window.
You'd think the UK would be closer to the European Overton Window, but it's been obvious since before Brexit that they've been making the same slide as the U.S. They're just not as far along as we are.
I made it a point not to mention liberals. Only "the left". I *did* equate conservatives with the right, because *gestures expansively* look at them. But I am aware that liberals and the left are distinct, and so made sure not to imply any connections with anything. And he best way I could think of to do that is to not use any terms other than the ones I mean.
I see people say this, but as far as I can tell they've all just fallen for the propaganda. I understand not liking his tone or style, but he's definitely not a piece of shit.
What has he done? I see that sentiment a lot. I just read his Wikipedia page it doesn't mention any controversies aside from people saying he is antisemitic and him saying that he is not. But no receipts. I see people complaining about him getting caught up in Twitch drama. The Behind The Bastards community seems to really like him and they usually call out leftist assholes. I spent an additional amount of time looking for stuff. Not seeing it yet. So please help me feel your hate.
Because he is a truly good human. They don’t want anyone discovering it is possible. Haters reference long dead, drawn out drama that has hours and hours of content. These freaks will see one out of context or AI clip that’s 10 seconds and judge this man. Oooor they come from gross communities like asmondgold/destiny/nickfuentes/benshapiro/charlekirk/joerogan/etc. both really.
That person asked for evidence, not your preprogrammed Hasan Defense Screech that he makes you memorize every day before you're allowed to donate to him.
One doesnt have to agree with him being banned from the UK to still point out that he is a massive piece of shit. We do not ignore the bad someone does because they do something good every once in a while.
Why virtue signal about how bad someone allegedly is while they're being blocked entry into ostensibly a democratic country because of his speech about a third government? Why help the fascists here
Nothing allegedly about Hassan being a waste of oxygen, there is more than enough evidence for that. I disagree with him being blocked from entering the UK, but you seem to believe we should just ignore the bad shit he has done because now he is being treated poorly.
It doesnt work that way. Two things can be true at once, but that does not mean we should ignore one of them.
The royal navy was tasked with intercepting slave ships in the 1800's but that was after a horrific amount of slavery first and the public in the uk had turned against slavery before then and were putting pressure on the government of the time.
The UK was commuting a larger genocide at the time of the holocaust. Numbers are just harder to measure because they didn't care enough about the victims to record numbers. And I mean, they knew about the persecution, civil rights violations and relocation of the jews before WW2 started, and didn't really care. If the holocaust was less visible (or complete), by the time they saw the end of it, the UK (nor most of the world) would have cared a great deal. They only opposed it in retrospect
Both Hasan Piker and his uncle Cenk deny the Armenian and Kurdish genocides done by Turkey, and won't call out the illegal occupation of Cyprus. Hasan also denied the Uighur genocide in China and defends Kim-Jong Un's brutal dictatorship. Unsure why his ETA was revoked, but he can always apply for a normal Visa lol....
Cenk in particular no longer holds this view, and has apologised for it. He points out that he was a victim of Turkish propaganda growing up. He uses it as an example of how propoganda is also used on Israeli and Americans to convince them a genocide is not happening. His cohost on the Young Turks is Armenian and the genocide comes up often.
Pretending this is about anything other than their views on Israel is disingenuous. 90% of the politicians who know Piker's name only know it in the context of the recent blatantly bad-faith attacks from pro-Israel groups. The timing alone tells you everything you need to know about the intentions of the UK government.
At least the Armenian genocide thing is taken out of context, he denies the white supremacist claim that the Armenian genocide happened because the Armenians were Christian. He doesn't deny that the genocide itself happened.
hasan the animal abuser? it was an ETAthat was revoked. The reason could be something so quizical as a spelling mistake, or illegible handwriting. He can still apply for a visa. doubt he'll get in though, borderpatrol and immigration love animals a hell of a lot more than people, and his ttack record isnt great...
I have never seen any 'evidence' for Hasan being an animal abuser that wasn't heavily doctored to an absolutely cartoonish degree. Only someone who was already looking for reasons to hate him wound fall for that shit.
The why post unfounded bullshit? If you want to make a claim that no one can find ANY real evidence for, why not post sources? Until you do, I will take your anti-genocide stance at face, but without evidence, I gotta think centrist dem, maybe?
well, I'm not american, nor do I live in America so no. This entire shitstorm of a thread started because I said I dont like what he did to his dogs and that it looked like an eta was refused. Then all of a sudden Im a nazi for it? take whatever you want at face value, my stance is that any abuse of an animal negates whatever you stand for, because if you're willing to hurt an animal for wanting to go and do something or sit somewhere quiet, you're a piece of shit. Thats all.
I'm not American either. So what? So post your evidence for his animal cruelty. THAT is why people are calling you a Nazi; mud slinging without evidence is kinda their thing. I looked; I can't find anything that isn't clownishly obvious disinformation.
No it couldn't be for anything, but thank you for playing. They posted the emails they got explaining that the UK government decided their visit was "not conducive to the public good". That was why. It was not a spelling mistake, it was not a paperwork infraction. They were denied because the government of the UK doesn't like them criticizing Israel.
Ah, I must have misread that. All I saw was ETA revoked, didnt read into the finer details. No need to call me a nazi though dude, especially for a misunderstanding. Or to tell me to fuck off back to kiwifarms either. What does that even mean?
dantedemanour
The uk, as with seemingly the majority of the west, are too scared to stop sucking off israel for some reason
mardukkur
The thing that pisses me off is that thanks to the UK's absurd actions even more people are going to be listening to these stupid dirtbag assholes and their idiotic, ignorant political hot takes.
Arenlor
Cenk openly supports genocide so no big loss there. What is their excuse for Hasan though?
JasonThorn
He says real men shouldn't feel like fathers when playing a game called PRAGMATA, which puts the player in a fatherly role over a robot that looks and acts like a 6-year-old kid: “If you are a f—ng lonely gamer who has never been around with a woman and will never have sex with a woman, why do you care? Like, what do you care about, having children or like riding for having children?” He also says that male gamers should worry more about Cheetos flavors than being father types.
MatureDendriticCell
No kidding. Brits were always in here critcizing our clown show and then they let this happen in their own home. Most shocking to me are the attacks against free speech and protest and what appears to be complacency of the general public.
canigifinpaint
Yeah so... if you actually read into this, it was just his ETA (a 6 month version of the normal Visa) that was revoked. He can still apply for a normal Visa though. That might get denied as well, but the cult of personality around this man is already too much so they'll believe anything he tells them. Not sure why they revoked his ETA, maybe they're dog lovers and don't like seeing dogs be tortured for Twitch views?
ragekritz
there was no real concrete proof he shocked his dog there, and even if he did it's like, people feel more sympathy for a dog than they do humans somehow, Im not a hassan watcher but usually when i see people freak out over him it's for some general leftist takes or being mad at america for being fucked up that gets said by many other people, meanwhile asmongold gets banned from twitch and comes back and says how much he loves genocide constantly and i haven't seen him get any visa's pulled.
Aceluke123
The right will always find a way to denigrate their detractors. It’s why they spread lies and clip out of context
canigifinpaint
The right doesn't even care about Hasan, and he never attacks them anyway. It's much safer to be a rich nepo-baby in a Beverly Hills mansion who only criticizes Democrats with disinformation campaigns. I bet he even thinks Kamala would have indicted him like Trump did lol, after all they're "exactly the same" according to him.
canigifinpaint
ragekritz
Cite examples of wanting the death of civies.
canigifinpaint
He literally came up with the term "Baby Settlers" to justify the murder of children in Israel.
canigifinpaint
Just a downvote with no response? This is what happens when you get all your news from a fake Leftist millionaire who is beholden to a billionaire. Neither of them want to pay taxes, so they pump out relentless anti-Democrat propaganda.
canigifinpaint
Oh right, he also said America deserved 9/11, and doubled down when confronted on it. Anyone who thinks civilians should die is a piece of shit and I hope they never live it down.
Aceluke123
‘Hasan pr firm.’ Do you even know how insane you sound? This entire comment is so full of propaganda I can’t even begin to respond
canigifinpaint
He literally has a PR Firm lol, he's represented by the same talent agency as Asmongold too. Also, you can't respond because there's nothing in my post that's incorrect...
Aceluke123
Sigh… lovely when a chud states ‘if you don’t give me a paragraph of evidence disagreeing then I’m right’
You’re wrong, Asmon was dropped from mythic talent and Hasan is under Night media. Two entirely different agencies.
The collar gate is based on an assumption his dog was shocked which has no evidence.
And he never has stated for death of children. That’s insane and you likely saw that from your favorite clipping grifter.
Imapseudonym
I get banning Hasan Piker. He openly supports terrorist organizations. He said America deserved 9/11. Said his favorite flag was Hezbollah. He's an extremist piece of shit. Cenk hasn't said anything ban worthy to my knowledge
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Look! a zionist spewing disinformation! those are rare! /s
turkizno
any and all who suck the cock of Russia so hard like Hasan, is not welcome in Europe. he LITERALLY SAID Russia deserves Crimea and that the Soviet Union's fall was an utter shame.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
See, THAT is posting evidence. I checked, and he did say that. Fuck Hassan Piker. See how easy that is?
turkizno
Just to note I'm not the initial person you responded to.
But yeah as you can tell from the downvotes on you as well now, people here really don't care, just because he's against Israel apparently he is suddenly a good person. He's still supporting terrorists, these things don't just cancel each other out.
Imapseudonym
I'm not a Zionist at all. I believe Israel is treating Palestinians the same way Nazi Germany treated the Jews and needs to be brought up on charges at the ICC. Everything I said about Hasan is documented fact. Just because I dont like him doesn't mean I support genocide.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Oh, and Cenk denied the Armenian genocide for years.
Imapseudonym
I will admit I was not aware of that. Did he ever recant and say he was wrong?
Causeitsmadeofmeat
I believe he did
swedeonamoose
Did Labour forget they are supposed to be centre left or something ?
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Eh, Cenk also forgot he's supposed to be a leftist when he dove into being a water-carrier for neo-Nazis.
2000000bees
Yes
androidshard
They're pretty much the same as the tories they replaced. Said tories are further right now than before.
Labour mostly won the election because the right wing vote got split between tories and reform (reform are like the tories but worse. More racist. More incompetent.)
worm61
They just stopped pretending.
ragekritz
Center "Left" often turns into moderate appeasers who are diet Righties.
Nuttsy
British Labour has long been a pioneer in that field. Isn't that right, Tony?
worm61
Because centrism will always capitulate to fascism.
swedeonamoose
The same way leftwing parties will abandon half of their values to sit in a center left gov sadly.
DukeDarkwood
Appeasement from the left is how conservatives have been able to push the U.S. Overton Window steadily rightward for the past few decades. Once the left shows willingness to take even a single step rightward, the step they vacated is suddenly shut off by the left edge of the Window.
You'd think the UK would be closer to the European Overton Window, but it's been obvious since before Brexit that they've been making the same slide as the U.S. They're just not as far along as we are.
Yet.
Arbitrarynamehere
Liberals are not the left. The left is a separate entity.
DukeDarkwood
I made it a point not to mention liberals. Only "the left". I *did* equate conservatives with the right, because *gestures expansively* look at them. But I am aware that liberals and the left are distinct, and so made sure not to imply any connections with anything. And he best way I could think of to do that is to not use any terms other than the ones I mean.
Arbitrarynamehere
Liberals are doing the appeasing and rightward stepping, not the left though
blackguard89
Yeah Hassan is still a piece of shit. He can be a leftist, two things can be true at the same time
drunkbs
Found the roach
Ryyyyyyyan
I see people say this, but as far as I can tell they've all just fallen for the propaganda. I understand not liking his tone or style, but he's definitely not a piece of shit.
DidItForScience
What has he done? I see that sentiment a lot. I just read his Wikipedia page it doesn't mention any controversies aside from people saying he is antisemitic and him saying that he is not. But no receipts. I see people complaining about him getting caught up in Twitch drama. The Behind The Bastards community seems to really like him and they usually call out leftist assholes. I spent an additional amount of time looking for stuff. Not seeing it yet. So please help me feel your hate.
Arbitrarynamehere
Enlightened centrist libs virtue signalling. It ain't that much more complicated than that
hwatL4bloopy
I guess your answer is the downvote and no evidence
hwatL4bloopy
Wooo it flipped to positive votes. Still no evidence though booo
NotSinceTheAccidend
Because he is a truly good human. They don’t want anyone discovering it is possible. Haters reference long dead, drawn out drama that has hours and hours of content. These freaks will see one out of context or AI clip that’s 10 seconds and judge this man. Oooor they come from gross communities like asmondgold/destiny/nickfuentes/benshapiro/charlekirk/joerogan/etc. both really.
canigifinpaint
That person asked for evidence, not your preprogrammed Hasan Defense Screech that he makes you memorize every day before you're allowed to donate to him.
Arbitrarynamehere
Why are you carrying water for fascist governments
Hukkie
One doesnt have to agree with him being banned from the UK to still point out that he is a massive piece of shit. We do not ignore the bad someone does because they do something good every once in a while.
Arbitrarynamehere
Why virtue signal about how bad someone allegedly is while they're being blocked entry into ostensibly a democratic country because of his speech about a third government? Why help the fascists here
Hukkie
Nothing allegedly about Hassan being a waste of oxygen, there is more than enough evidence for that. I disagree with him being blocked from entering the UK, but you seem to believe we should just ignore the bad shit he has done because now he is being treated poorly.
It doesnt work that way. Two things can be true at once, but that does not mean we should ignore one of them.
NotSinceTheAccidend
Anyone who dislikes hasan is a total douche piece of shit. That’s how you look. Disgusting. Grow up
Arbitrarynamehere
You didn't answer my question at all. You're helping fascists here. Why die on this hill
battleofhastings1066
Has the UK ever opposed a genocide? I mean, I don't have enough digits to count all of the ones that they have perpetrated.
delecti
The holocaust, but that was really an unintended side-effect of stopping the Germans from bombing them.
Smoozle
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1NGczYjgzdjVpNmhhNWRzdHd5ZjFhcHQ4amJ4cTA1dmhnendxM3RrdSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/9EwnzGNjvmIG4/200w.webp
DukeDarkwood
I imagine they oppose some, not out of principle, but as sort of protecting their IP. "No, no, that's OUR thing."
They're probably giving Israel a pass because they came up with the idea for Israel (the modern state), and were a big part of making it happen.
androidshard
The royal navy was tasked with intercepting slave ships in the 1800's but that was after a horrific amount of slavery first and the public in the uk had turned against slavery before then and were putting pressure on the government of the time.
The UK did oppose the holocaust.
Forensickle
The UK was commuting a larger genocide at the time of the holocaust.
Numbers are just harder to measure because they didn't care enough about the victims to record numbers.
And I mean, they knew about the persecution, civil rights violations and relocation of the jews before WW2 started, and didn't really care. If the holocaust was less visible (or complete), by the time they saw the end of it, the UK (nor most of the world) would have cared a great deal. They only opposed it in retrospect
canigifinpaint
Both Hasan Piker and his uncle Cenk deny the Armenian and Kurdish genocides done by Turkey, and won't call out the illegal occupation of Cyprus. Hasan also denied the Uighur genocide in China and defends Kim-Jong Un's brutal dictatorship. Unsure why his ETA was revoked, but he can always apply for a normal Visa lol....
NotSinceTheAccidend
No. They. Don’t. Stfu you trash liar
canigifinpaint
"Sent from my iPhone" lmao, privileged rich kids who love Hasan because he's a fellow rich boy nepo-baby.
ThinkingInCode
Cenk in particular no longer holds this view, and has apologised for it. He points out that he was a victim of Turkish propaganda growing up. He uses it as an example of how propoganda is also used on Israeli and Americans to convince them a genocide is not happening. His cohost on the Young Turks is Armenian and the genocide comes up often.
maddeninglemon
Pretending this is about anything other than their views on Israel is disingenuous. 90% of the politicians who know Piker's name only know it in the context of the recent blatantly bad-faith attacks from pro-Israel groups. The timing alone tells you everything you need to know about the intentions of the UK government.
neithermenoryou
At least the Armenian genocide thing is taken out of context, he denies the white supremacist claim that the Armenian genocide happened because the Armenians were Christian. He doesn't deny that the genocide itself happened.
MaximusUltima
This is basically as true as “Hasan supported October 7th” — which is to say, not at all.
canigifinpaint
He absolutely did, he was on a podcast boasting about it that very day. He also cheered on the Hothis when they were abducting ship crews for ransom.
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
hasan the animal abuser? it was an ETAthat was revoked. The reason could be something so quizical as a spelling mistake, or illegible handwriting. He can still apply for a visa. doubt he'll get in though, borderpatrol and immigration love animals a hell of a lot more than people, and his ttack record isnt great...
expectnothingstillletdown
I have never seen any 'evidence' for Hasan being an animal abuser that wasn't heavily doctored to an absolutely cartoonish degree. Only someone who was already looking for reasons to hate him wound fall for that shit.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Found the zionist
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
I'm really not. From the river to the sea, fuck israel and free Palestine.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
The why post unfounded bullshit? If you want to make a claim that no one can find ANY real evidence for, why not post sources? Until you do, I will take your anti-genocide stance at face, but without evidence, I gotta think centrist dem, maybe?
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
well, I'm not american, nor do I live in America so no. This entire shitstorm of a thread started because I said I dont like what he did to his dogs and that it looked like an eta was refused. Then all of a sudden Im a nazi for it? take whatever you want at face value, my stance is that any abuse of an animal negates whatever you stand for, because if you're willing to hurt an animal for wanting to go and do something or sit somewhere quiet, you're a piece of shit. Thats all.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
I'm not American either. So what? So post your evidence for his animal cruelty. THAT is why people are calling you a Nazi; mud slinging without evidence is kinda their thing. I looked; I can't find anything that isn't clownishly obvious disinformation.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Fuck off back to kiwifarms, nazi cunt
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
Oof, hit a nerve? All I said was he isnt banned, his ETA was revoked, and that could be for anything. He can still apply for another visa.
jaecyk10
No it couldn't be for anything, but thank you for playing. They posted the emails they got explaining that the UK government decided their visit was "not conducive to the public good". That was why. It was not a spelling mistake, it was not a paperwork infraction. They were denied because the government of the UK doesn't like them criticizing Israel.
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
Ah, I must have misread that. All I saw was ETA revoked, didnt read into the finer details. No need to call me a nazi though dude, especially for a misunderstanding. Or to tell me to fuck off back to kiwifarms either. What does that even mean?
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Jamesstin
Nazis don't tend to like the finer details