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EmotionallyCrippled
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BrianBoyko
You have chosen... poorly.
snowinmyboots
Cancel Your Spotify account... they loose clients, they may grow up.
Shelest
honestly, I'd really, REALLY like to read the agreement that Rogan signed with Spotify
ExistentialDreadlocks
I guess he'll have to keep on rocking in the free world.
stoots24
Oh, no! How will Neil survive without that $0.85 monthly royalty check from Spotify???
hadan8088
How to close your spitify account: https://support.spotify.com/us/article/close-account/
peterpaoliello
Its amazing how dense people are, he never expected for Rogan to be dropped.
BlameIt0nTibor
if they had like 100 more people withdraw they might
rumandbass
I am no longer amazed.
ThisIsWhyIDontTrustPeople
It's all about the $$$. Spotify would remove every artist from the service if Rogan brought in more $ than they did combined.
MaxMinutiae
Imagine if more artists started doing this and it became a trend.
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MaxMinutiae
You’re free to not use the platform for the same reason. Unless you just like bitching about the whining.
cabalin
Any recommendation on a good Spotify substitute?
ProfessionalHugDealer
I use Youtube Music, I get it for free with the youtube premium subscription, between that and the lack of ads of mobile yt, so worth it
literallymike
Why is misinformation in quotes?
Sm9yCg
Fuck spotify. Alternatives include deezer.com and others
Jaysyn1980
rbudrick
Wtf is "begun removing?" Just fucking remove it.
ExistentialDreadlocks
They have to request the phones from everyone who downloaded for offline listening /s
Treequux
From what I've heard, he only owns about half his library, he sold the other half awhile ago.
thisisausernamelikeanyothersbutthisonesmellsweird
adiving
No Joe Rogan, and no artists who can pull music back.
palatinusmusic
What the universe is trying to ask here is this: on your streaming service, do you prefer to listen to music or lies? Difficult, isn't it?
cjandstuff
"Which one brings us more money?... Okay drop the other guy." - Spotify
Hexrowe
I know it's simply about which is more popular, but still... DAMNIT, Spotify.
uzetaab
Fuck Joe Rogan and fuck Spotify.
JeckFarter
Who tf is Joe Rogan?
FelonyRaptor
A former semi funny reality contest show host on tv.
HeroThatWasNeeded
Some fucking moron who keeps digging in the wrong direction with misinformation thinking he's being anti establishment.
SerialChickenLover
Oh how I wish I were you
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
Rogan's popularity is heckin' baffling.
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
As is anything GQP, antivax, Qanon...
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what's this GQP i keep seeing?
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
GOP but with added Qanon madness
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thanks fam
kissmine2000
Too many dumbass Q-tips in the world.
gorillaClutch
do you really have to say "accused of" when he has the vaccination misinformation doctor on to spew his proven lies?
Species8472UpInThisB1tch
What's that dude even saying about the vaccines that's causing all the commotion? Are they turning the freaking frogs gay or what?
TheGhostofLionelHutz
Yep. They also needlessly put misinformation in quotes in the headline. Fuckin NY Times...
torillatavataan
No. Welcome to journalism. When one person says it's sunny and another says it's raining, a journalist's job is to look outside.
ImgursLibertarian
Not since Edward Bernays.
Carlillo
You misspelled "profit from the confusion". New definition.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Yes. Welcome to journalism. Avoid libel.
SerialChickenLover
And someone like The New York Times is a really juicy target for a right-wing troll like Rogan.
HedonistBeard
I mean, it might be expensive for them at first but unlikely they'd lose. It isn't libel if it's provably true and that's not hard to do.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Is he actually likely to do that? I haven’t followed him or his guests for 3-4 years, but I can’t see him suing unless ridiculed unfairly
SerialChickenLover
He is a public figure, so suing for libel or defamation would be a big gamble.
buttcreambandit
If you listen to Malone a lot of what he says isn’t even false. It’s just omitting the truth or phrasing it in a way that makes it seem 1/2
buttcreambandit
For instance one thing he says is that if you’ve had Covid your basically the same or more immunized as getting the vaccine, which 1/2
buttcreambandit
In all reality is pretty true. But he’s leaving out the point that YOU HAD TO GET FUCKING COVID AND POSSIBLY BE IN A HOSPITAL OR DIE FIRST
buttcreambandit
Like anti vaxxers are right or some shit. He’s an absolute cancer and knows exactly what he’s doing. Reminds me of how trumps lawyers 2/3
buttcreambandit
Presented the “election fraud” while actually under oath
fivefrozenfishfingers
springuy8
Got a source or just a meme? I guess a meme is a source in this climate ?
imadoctornotamechanic
weird how the source linked is at 2 and your knee jerk attack of something that proves hes garbage is at 8
fivefrozenfishfingers
Episode 1749 with Shane Dorian, from Dec of 2021. I do not have a timestamp
TheCarolingian
I know who Neil Young is, but not Joe Rogan. I'm in the UK?
lebronkeykong
funny how different all these responses are. you should look him up and watch some of his stuff. lots of rogan haters on imgur these days
rukeman
Consider yourself extremely lucky not to know who Joe Rogan is.
BigEatsBen
Interesting. I'm in UK and I don't know who Neil Young is but do know of Rogan
HiImFrak
He was the least talented one on news radio.
MacClay
That could be more the writing. They didn't really give Khandi Alexander much of a chance to shine, either.
capngoat
He used to host Fear Factor, did a cameo in a Dave Chappelle sketch and was a UFC commentator. And now he's a podcaster for conspiracies.
bonkersbabytail
I miss News Radio Joe Rogan, not this pseudo stoned philosopher who occupies his thoughts with trends and spreading "woke" behavior
oobeedoobenubi
He was a stand up comedian before doing any of that. He was an original host of "The Man Show" with Jimmy Kimmel.
MacClay
That was Adam Carolla. Joe Rogan hosted with Doug Stanhope after Adam and Jimmy left.
oobeedoobenubi
Oh shit, you're right
gucchan13
afaik he's a podcaster/talk show dude that usually blurts out misinformation and conspiracy theories. you're not missing out imho
RuthlessRuben
The only real question left with Rogan is "Is he doing this for the money, or is he really as stupid as he claims to be?"
Buddasac
It's literally both with Rogan. More than likely he knows, but skepticism keeps his numbers up.
xstickman
How do you "begin to remove"? Wouldn't it just be ctrl + F Neil Young, Disable?
captiandavie
I’m guessing with a career as long as his theres a more then a few contract stuff that needs to happen. theres also more than one server
ExistentialDreadlocks
They have to wait for all the people who downloaded for offline listening to put them back so they can delete those too.
Inkfinger
Well fuck. Now I gotta cancel Spotify.
khora
Then no one can hear them.
foreverastudent
Seeing if this will stick: https://support.spotify.com/us/article/cancel-premium/
Inkfinger
Thanks that helps!
EmotionallyCrippled
I’m glad I never subscribed
LucidPariah
I'm glad I downloaded a modified version of Spotify so no commercials and I paid for nothing!
snowinmyboots
Did you do that yet? you actually have to do it , saying so doesn't count.
Inkfinger
Jaysyn1980
Thanks mom
Inkfinger
I've tried on the mobile app but can't seem to find the option. But yeah when I get home from work
Jaysyn1980
I kind of find it funny that you cancel Spotify on a phone made in a sweatshop but you have no problem with using that
Inkfinger
Eh I'm focusing on the clear and present danger. We can and should talk about sweatshops once we got this whole pandemic thing on lock.
lookslikeitsgonnaraintoday
I did it.
OMGamIImguringCorrectly
Vaccinated artists should really get together to out all the anti-vax nutjobs on their platforms. Other platforms would follow suit.
DeanSledgehammer
This is not dystopian at all.
KrytenKoro
Millions of people dying because of listening to snake oil salesman: "the real dystopia is somebody criticizing the grifters!"
GeneralAnubis
Correct
iamspartan1262
Correct, it is not dystopian
Stefnos
or make thire own music service and put spotify out of buisness ^^
mcdeviant
They could call it Tidal
kluang
I suggest the name limewire for the anti vaxa artist platform
CouldntCakeLess
This Neil Young seems to be great guy!
TodayIDidNothing
Meh, kinda lame to do this
Weblord
No one is perfect but he has been true to a course of goodwill to the planet and all people. And he made great music.
Hapsdinersdumpsterfire
LateNightBunnyParty
Neil Young is awesome. My dad's been a fan since the 70s, myself since the 90s. He's always been a badass.
FelonyRaptor
He kinda is. He was sued by his own record label (Geffen) in the 80's for not sounding enough like Neil Young. While begin Neil Young. /
FelonyRaptor
There's a lot of other cool stuff regarding his artistic integrity. Also he was a total asshole to many folks.
hushpuppyextraordinaire
https://youtu.be/GqQlt9K4g6I
Wepfmokk
woah easy there with the boomer music please
LateNightBunnyParty
You will show respect to Mr. Young.
Wepfmokk
How do you old people like this cheesy tootling? this guy was seriously successful once?
LateNightBunnyParty
OMG, I just got called "old!" My day is made! ?
Oddeballe
Have to be, as he is Canadian
Eli93
Joe literally just had Jordan Peterson on to help him spew lies...
TK421isAFK
Didn't know who that was, but found out he's a Canadian psychologist. I don't understand the relevance.
JericoJones23
I don't know him either but in think that comment was a reaction to OC that said Neil has to be great because he's Canadian. I presume.
KartFnocker
plus Stefan Molyneux, Lauren Southern, JF Gariepy... Unfortunately canada has plenty of these figures of their own
CrossBetween
Great guy but his music is insufferable.
OverthoughtUnderedited
I pity the fool that hasn't let a tear crest his eye whilst listening to Old Man.
OtherErinFromTheOffice
Totally entitled to your opinion. Worth noting that he inspired generations of musicians, especially artists that broke out in the 90s
OtherErinFromTheOffice
(Obviously that doesn’t mean you HAVE to like his music though, just deserves to be pointed out)
CrossBetween
Yeah, I’m not saying he isn’t a great influencer and a role model. I’m just more into different kind of music and can’t stand Young’s stuff.
nightbeaver
Understandable. Hes been quite versatile over the years. I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one song that you like.
SayRamrod
oh you shush
martineb72
I love his song 'Old Man'. It was his reaching across to other people. "I'm a lot like you were' was a line in it.
OverthoughtUnderedited
Doesn't mean that much to me to mean that much to you
OverthoughtUnderedited
Love lost, such a cost. Give me things that won't get lost. Like a coin that won't get tossed, rolling home to you.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Find the live BBC version from his early days if you haven't already. Oh hell, Here. https://youtu.be/An2a1_Do_fc
tesselation9000
Maybe my favourite thing on youtube. The set of pipes that guy had was incredible!
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
It's one of my faves as well. He's so young and gangly, but absolutely confident when singing and playing. It's a triumphant performance.
tesselation9000
It also reminded me so much of Nirvana's unplugged performance 20 years later. He was definitely an inspiration to Cobain.
MyRespectableAlterEgo
I like his solo stuff, but if they take down any CSNY stuff I’ll be upset: Deja Vu is an album that should always be instantly accessible.
Idunnobutitshouldbeawesome
4 Way Street is probably my all time favourite album.
Rendova
Total agreement. Don't touch "Teach your Children" please.
LetTheWorldBurnSinceNoOneFFFingCares
Better than Rogan, but still spread his own misinformation about GMOs
FelonyRaptor
I'm guessing it wasn't actually life threatening like Rogans shit?
cabalin
Not as directly but food scarcity is a serious problem in parts of the world
HonestBendersOrphanarium
GMOs are saving a lot of people from starvation and will only become more important in that regard.
Species8472UpInThisB1tch
Joe Rogan gets more listeners than Neil young, it's all about numbers
CoarseAndSalty
That's a cop out. Very few things that matter are about numbers. Spotify is likely going to learn that the hard way.
Ludus
You have identified the problem
rulek
I quit my account over this, citing Neil as the reason. Every bit helps
ExTechOp
Let's hope other artists follow suit, it's not like they are making lots and lots of money via Spotify.
FourLegsGood
Private owners don't care about social responsibility. They'll only understand consequences.
MarioBoon
The numbers are the 90 million dollars Spotify has invested in Joe Rogan
Justalobstercowboy
THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS
AwesomeName
I don't think Neil Young had any illusion about who they would remove from their catalog. It was a matter of taking a stand.
SlapChopperSlim
The title of the article is misleading. NY demanded that his music be removed from Spotify because of JR.
electrickettle
Yeah. Also, he expressed a wish for other artists to join him.
Soufange
I'm back to buying cds!
CE0485
You need to go deeper and hit up 8 tracks….
Lewskannon
Glad I kept the vinyl.
ThisIsWhyIDontTrustPeople
This is the man who left CSNY because they wanted to play big venues and he preferred intimate shows. Never really cared about the money.
guiltyalias
Fucking A. How many people will put on Joe dickhead in 10 years? Now how about Neil..
mrgreen326
In ten years the majority of people who listened to him will be dead, what year do you think young was a popular artist?
BearRidingATrex
But will Rogan still be relevant? Young could always end up on Guardians of the Galaxy 6 soundtrack and make a comeback.
mrgreen326
He'll probably be president
Gantzz321
it is about being a good leader, Neil can inspire other artists to also do this. Then the #'s matter
martineb72
Maybe, maybe not. All the people that have Neil Young in their playlist probably play many of his songs multiple times.
martineb72
I myself have probably listened in the last year to more minutes of Neil Young than Joe Rogan has put out in the same time frame.
triggrhaapi
Yes, bias confirmation has a very wide audience, which is part of the reason that honesty and integrity are important.
AMLejane214
Its all about who has common sense then.
GlobalImageServiceCat
What about the number of dying COVID patients?
TheRelevancyOfMyNameIsRelativelyIrrelevant
seems this is the only way to get spotify to take down music, even if they outright stole it.
RufusPimperton
Well yes, were After the Gold Rush.
xj4low
Profit, a bunch of people want to listen to an uninformed idiot MMA host. Can we stop making stupid people famous and famous people shutup?
BubblesTheFish
Also if someone told me (and this has happened to me before) to choose between them and another friend. I don't have to make a choice at all
ravenousj
But this might cause a trend. Other musicians might follow Young.
effigyoma
I don't know if Spotify could remove Joe Rogan unless he violates the terms of their contract.
hushpuppyextraordinaire
I got a number for Spotify ( image reversed)
TheMouseOfMadness
hushpuppyextraordinaire
More like the middle finger only.
Esdog
What is it?
hushpuppyextraordinaire
Jerry Garcia’s hand print.
Esdog
Apart from a hand?
HeySweden
A part of a hand.
Targe0
Yeah but he's made a big PR issue for them now. And other artists might also follow suit.
electrickettle
Yeah, he said he hoped for that.
catsnroombas
Fingers crossed!
Targe0
I mean if people really wanted to apply pressure they should cancel their subscription to them and post the fact that did with something ->
Targe0
Like #IStandWithNeil & send it to Spotify. If enough people do that they would realize that a lot of their now former uses want Rogan gone >
Targe0
It's a cost benefit equation to them, if they get more by keeping him they will, if it will cost more to have him they will drop him.
CommissarFuklaw
The PR issue will cost them less than being in breach of contract with Rogan.
leodavinci1
In a situation between one person and a large corporation, who do you thinks has the better lawyers? The contract is going to favor Spotify.
CommissarFuklaw
Depends on how badly they wanted him. Based on hersay about how much he got paid, they wanted him and his audience pretty badly.
CommissarFuklaw
Go after the advertisers, not the platform.
triggrhaapi
Why on earth would I not go after both? I have no loyalty to Spotify.
CommissarFuklaw
Feel free to do whatever, just saying that stopping the ad revenue will make a more tangible impact. Just a more focused effort is all.
triggrhaapi
TBH, they overpaid for him.
CommissarFuklaw
I don't think so, in terms of how many new users he probably brought in and the ad revenue generated, they made it back very quick.
CommissarFuklaw
Spotify revenue was 9.5 billion in 2020.
sambaah05
It also would be a really bad practice to let one artist dictate who they can have on their platform. Would have set a really bad precedent.
BubblesTheFish
I agree with you, however Joe should've been kicked off the platform a long time ago.
twaldma2
Why?
Eli93
But they paid money for him guyssss. Moooney. It's more important that the lies he puts out, it seems.
sambaah05
Agreed. I never said he should be on there. Just that it would be silly to let one artist force them to kick off another artist.
Gantzz321
except that is not what happened here. Neil said TAKE MINE DOWN, not take Joe's down or else.
Yupurineutah
This. "This Note's For You!"
FourLegsGood
It's not about a person. It's about responsibility. Why don't you understand that? Are you a shareholder?
BubblesTheFish
https://imgur.com/EFqRbev
sambaah05
Huh? Read what I said again. I wasn't defending Rogan by any means. This place is weird sometimes.
FourLegsGood
No, you're focusing on personalities instead of actions. Read everything again.
MarkSoupial
He asked to be removed so as not to have his work on the same platform as Rogan's. There's a difference.
B4DF15H2
Yes the activist musician should certainly take 50+ years of protest songs away from their most effective platform. SMDNHAAH
CouldntCakeLess
This is even better. Mad props!
PollyFoxing
false...he gave an ultimatum
toddlerfights
Incorrect. He said it’s him or me. Spotty (incorrectly imo) chose to keep Rogan
DeltaLaw
We need more to join him for it to matter. Fingers crossed
AllHailTechnoViking
This whole thing didn't start here. He already asked them to remove the false information. They refused.
19216801
Not a young fan, but looking at other platforms in solidarity
HellBrendy
No, he gave them a choice. They chose wrong.
andiworkinabuttonfactory
Yup it’s gone! Everybody search him so Spotify sees a demand. More leverage
confanity
I mean, the implication that they could have kept him by dumping Rogan's dumb ass is pretty clear.
trustworthyfart
Isn’t he trying to start his own streaming service based on high fidelity sound?
springuy8
Well he deleted it so I guess his conviction wavered a bit after the post
KartFnocker
he changed it, but the (revised) letter is still there https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-In-The-Name-Of-Truth
NPSM365
His catalogue was supposedly removed. I don't use Spotify. ?
MathieuGaydos
What us the difference? The article says that
mobbatbarnmedautomatvapen
He is the man :) big up!
FartPoweredPogoStick
Yep. Integrity. Gotta respect his decision.
Unknownium
Singing to the choir here.
svga
but he also said "They can have Rogan or Young"
MarkSoupial
To his managers, yes.
svga
"Young had already removed much of his music from Spotify a few years ago"- I hear you man but it's still posturing as an ultimatum / threat
tpanyS
I dunno that it was 'much', I believe I saw they said he still had like a shit ton of stuff on there. But it ultimately also wasn't (1/?)
tpanyS
likely making them remotely as much money in advertisement and shit as Joe Rogan, so they chose him and money over a more moral route. (2/2)
MarkSoupial
He removed it before because of the low audio quality they used lol
svga
can you help me source that assessment?
barfpony
Neil Young is also not small potatoes, dude is a hugely well-known songwriter. Good on him for using his clout as best he can.
RabeMeansRaven
I'm sure he has tens of listeners on spotify these days.
elBrazzo
Your right, I want Neil "Fucking" Young to determine what is free speech & what is not.
kaarbaakimgr
This isn’t a “Free Speech” issue, dummy.
DucksAreGood
You're*
Saholinsnake
elBrazzo
I meant to add that I may not listen to Rogan, he has the right to his opinion. You have to do their own research to learn the truth...
SilverSpoonz
He has his right yes, agreed. In this case it's dangerous so Neil is using his rights and copyrighted songs to protest. It's not legislation
4EverZw
Of the people who 'do their own research', a minor fraction do research, a larger fraction seek facts, and the masses just confirm bias.
Greenshield
I too get my news from people who made a career out of getting kicked in the head repeatedly.
kaarbaakimgr
People who listen to Rogan consider that their research.
BearsDontCare
You can have an opinion, bu iit becomes harmful if it is wrong, misleading, and endangers others. At that point you cant voice it.
heroesblood
He has the right to his opinion until he blasts harmful misinformation to millions of people on a widely-accessible platform.
scotjam
He still has a right to his opinion imho, but should not be given a platform
heroesblood
That's when "having an opinion" becomes "spreading propaganda."