Jan 26, 2022 11:02 PM
RacecarRoadcar
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Rip door.
Chobot
3.50 should ve enough to solve it
byebuddyhopeyoufindyourdad
v
drdavessardogs
R.I.P. Johnny
psycho3d
potentiallyunsafe
AllAnusMorissette
komododave
Perfect.
GroumphLePreux
Well, this looks expensive...
PorkBarrelTrollitics
what the hell? Thats a total breakdown in comms, someones getting fired
realAnimatronicDonaldTrump
So the door was still open when the plane was pushed back, don't they have like a "door is ajar" alarm or something?
TheDairyPope
Couldn't hear it over the sound of the door sheering off.
thedarkcanuck
Even my parents' 97 Taurus had that as a standard feature
milskiCatDiver
Yes, the 777 does have doors armed indication. It is on a multi-purpose display, so they might have had something else shown at the time.
TheSilverSeraph
Yeah, but it sounded exactly like the passenger in seat 14C was pushing the attendant call button again, so they ignored it
agathos
https://onemileatatime.com/news/british-airways-777-door-ripped-off/
teknojo
Thanks.
Filanwizard
That makes things make a lot more sense. Can a jetway be moved from the ground? Easy checks failure there. 1/
Dude is told to get the tractor and move the aircraft. Thinks the plane is closed up and moves the jetway.
Or however they park planes. Sounds like end of day for the aircraft has far less checklist than readying for a flight.
imworthyourtime
This sounds like expensive
Pphunk77
....the door is ajar.........the door is ajar..........the door is ajar.........the door is ajar.........the door is ajar......
HapilyDamaged
how can a door be a jaaaar maaaan?
PhloydPhan
'Attention passengers of flight BA42, this is your captain speaking. Fuck it, I've decided we're going for it anyway.'
erroreee
Ground crew does the pushback. And planes can fly just fine without a door below 14500'. The more you know
NZSheeps
Passengers in the front row may notice a slight breeze
TurdHurdler
It might be okay. NASA does it.
SpecialOedipus
Remember oxygen is still flowing even if the bag doesn't inflate.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Hang on to ya butts!!
3nd3rwiggin
Anybody have a shit load of duck tape?
CaptainYesterday
No but I have some flex seal.
tiderfish
Apparently it’s called speed tape when it’s used on an airplane
ShimmerinStrider
Someone get me that uninflated slide!
glorytoyouandyourpost
hymenochirus
‘Spensive
Fargus57
Bah. Back in my day British Airways didn't need doors. People are so spoiled now.
Starfury42
Tarp and duct tape should fix that right up.
Capone78
Door-xit
Mikey667
Get the duct tape.
Grateful42
some body got fired
mrdjnz
Aviation generally uses just culture.
Not how things usually work in aviation, unless it was done on purpose.
superscout0233
Considering how desperate most companies are, probably not.
Angrymechanic
More like...chewed out, i been chewed out before
eggmuffin
No. That's stupid. Never fire someone for an honest fuckup. If you do that, you'll get more fuckups.
HardOnStrokeFoundation
No you'll get people hiding it when they fuck up. Which can cost lives in Aviation
umbrellamaker
Nah just drug tested and three paid days off while they wait for the results
PunnyTiger
oops.
azncracker
Someone got a lot of splaining to do.
ZuluThreeZero
Local engineers towing it for maintenance supposedly, no pax on board.
FirstInLine
DarkSock
Ehhh just speed tape it
gauraSleepPilot
Me:Dear i am gonna be late.. door of my plane got ripped off ..! She: at least make some realistic excuses !
yaddiex3
Oopsie Doodle!
Maviyakuku
TIA! is the African equivalent of SNAFU or Fuck It! - as in: This Is Africa
TyrionOfHouseLannister
Rip aircraft?
brownribbon
Definitely not. That’s repairable.
dg24
looks like they failed their cross check and all call for the doors.
whoisyourdaddy
She was being pushed to a storage location for the day, likely didn't have any crew on it.
TheS4ndm4n
Last person to leave forgot to lock the door.
squanchit
What is cross check? Always been curious
shamoolie
The flight attendant doing the checks on the other side of the plane crosses over to double check - or cross checks
Kaitlynincanada
Usually there's 1 flight attendant per door. Cross check means double check the other person's work OR double check your own work.
saganworshipper
You. I like you.
ThaxtonSpringfieldTheThird
"1L, 1R"
“2L, 2R”
veesee
Flight attendants prepare for departure- said no one on this flight
IMustGrowUpReally
Spanish guy was fired after pilot said "Doors to Manuel".
Emulen
But that's Jehovas favorit part of the plane, how will they market to this group now?
bottledham
The door's always open now - they'll love it!
MooseknuckleJim
It's literally part of checklists and flows.There are multiple people at fault to include ground crew, flight crew and gate agents
I was wondering because one usually drives a jetway from the end with the airplane.
sambaah05
Happens. People make mistakes at work.
ThisOldCPU
This took a GROUP of people making mistakes. Don't defend this shit.
shack95
Making mistakes at the start or very end of a long shift ?
Not defending at all. Just seen lots of groups of people make mistakes at work. So I'm not surprised.
This has a checklist that multiple people didnt do.1 person makes a mistake but several people made a fuckup.
tyrpestdeath
I work in aviation. Every major failure I have seen was the result of multiple people not doing their job. Only way it really happens, 1/2
because if any ONE person had done what they were supposed to, you'd have never known about it.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I took engineering in school and our course on ethics was called "Disasters". Every major disaster occurs because multiple things go /1
hugemuffin
I took something similar in engineering school and then decided to go into software security. Failure's not an option, it's a feature.
wrong. Because if just one thing goes wrong, no disaster. It's very easy to build a failsafe into each step. It's harder but still /2
gate agents? what's their role in all this?
KnightKrypto
Most gate agents close the door. Flight attendants only arm the slide and verify its closed all the way
Depending on the airport, signaling the cockpit that the jet way is back, pulling the jet way back etc.
DubhIainn
Good that the ramp/slide was still safed. If that'd opened into the jetway, that would have been a mess.
bonetonelord
This wasn't a plane about to depart. It was being taken to a remote stand to wait for its return flight in the evening.
Cant the safety only be disengaged if the door is locked?
HollyGoBiteMe
Not locked, but yes when it's armed. It looks when the door is shut and the handle is fully rotated, but it's only armed when you pushback
lronMaiden
You can always grab the locking bar by hand and pull.
More info: slide assy has a bar that is locked in to aircraft floor when slide is armed. If opened while armed it will trigger 1/2
Mxlespxles
You can grab my locking bar by hand and pull.
ps238principal
I've always wondered: If you have to remove the emergency door, do you get to keep it?
I think the NTSB likes to have as many plane bits as possible which probably includes the exit door you tossed off the wing.
parkydiver
It counts as extra luggage, so you may get charged more if going through customs.
potatoardvarkhybrid
realrealluckless
Only if you're fit enough to run away and hide it.
HelpfulCorn
Aren't you supposed to throw it out the hole?
BoboTheIceMan
Yes, but you throw it out of the plane, this was already out of the plane, on the jetway. The hallway you walk down to board plane.
xXxSTEVOxXx
Can someone who works airliner MRO give a sense of how significant this damage is? Im curious about the airframe of if its limited
Edwinshap
Not as bad as you think. Door isn’t attached to primary structure when open, so aircraft is fine, new door and hinge needed though.
BA may not have the right maintenance facility at Cape Town to fix it, so its likely to sit there costing $$$$ until they can get parts
NationalSecurityAgencyOfficial
The door of a pressurized metal tube is no longer attached to the pressurized metal tube. Metal tube is no longer pressurized.
I mean like: are the hinges destroyed and does that mean the door opening structure might also be compromised?
Hard to say, structure has to be inspected to determine that. Expensive and time consuming regardless.
R100GSPD
Given how critical a doorframe is, Boeing is likely going to dispatch a team to conduct the inspection/repair. It'll be a significant job.
Wolfshead009
Hope they do better than the repair job on JAL123.
Chobot
3.50 should ve enough to solve it
byebuddyhopeyoufindyourdad
drdavessardogs
R.I.P. Johnny
psycho3d
potentiallyunsafe
AllAnusMorissette
komododave
Perfect.
GroumphLePreux
Well, this looks expensive...
PorkBarrelTrollitics
what the hell? Thats a total breakdown in comms, someones getting fired
realAnimatronicDonaldTrump
So the door was still open when the plane was pushed back, don't they have like a "door is ajar" alarm or something?
TheDairyPope
Couldn't hear it over the sound of the door sheering off.
thedarkcanuck
Even my parents' 97 Taurus had that as a standard feature
milskiCatDiver
Yes, the 777 does have doors armed indication. It is on a multi-purpose display, so they might have had something else shown at the time.
TheSilverSeraph
Yeah, but it sounded exactly like the passenger in seat 14C was pushing the attendant call button again, so they ignored it
agathos
https://onemileatatime.com/news/british-airways-777-door-ripped-off/
teknojo
Thanks.
Filanwizard
That makes things make a lot more sense. Can a jetway be moved from the ground? Easy checks failure there. 1/
Filanwizard
Dude is told to get the tractor and move the aircraft. Thinks the plane is closed up and moves the jetway.
Filanwizard
Or however they park planes. Sounds like end of day for the aircraft has far less checklist than readying for a flight.
imworthyourtime
This sounds like expensive
Pphunk77
....the door is ajar.........the door is ajar..........the door is ajar.........the door is ajar.........the door is ajar......
HapilyDamaged
how can a door be a jaaaar maaaan?
PhloydPhan
'Attention passengers of flight BA42, this is your captain speaking. Fuck it, I've decided we're going for it anyway.'
erroreee
Ground crew does the pushback. And planes can fly just fine without a door below 14500'. The more you know
NZSheeps
Passengers in the front row may notice a slight breeze
TurdHurdler
It might be okay. NASA does it.
SpecialOedipus
Remember oxygen is still flowing even if the bag doesn't inflate.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Hang on to ya butts!!
3nd3rwiggin
Anybody have a shit load of duck tape?
CaptainYesterday
No but I have some flex seal.
tiderfish
Apparently it’s called speed tape when it’s used on an airplane
ShimmerinStrider
Someone get me that uninflated slide!
glorytoyouandyourpost
hymenochirus
‘Spensive
Fargus57
Bah. Back in my day British Airways didn't need doors. People are so spoiled now.
Starfury42
Tarp and duct tape should fix that right up.
Capone78
Door-xit
Mikey667
Get the duct tape.
Grateful42
some body got fired
mrdjnz
Aviation generally uses just culture.
milskiCatDiver
Not how things usually work in aviation, unless it was done on purpose.
superscout0233
Considering how desperate most companies are, probably not.
Angrymechanic
More like...chewed out, i been chewed out before
eggmuffin
No. That's stupid. Never fire someone for an honest fuckup. If you do that, you'll get more fuckups.
HardOnStrokeFoundation
No you'll get people hiding it when they fuck up. Which can cost lives in Aviation
umbrellamaker
Nah just drug tested and three paid days off while they wait for the results
PunnyTiger
oops.
azncracker
Someone got a lot of splaining to do.
ZuluThreeZero
Local engineers towing it for maintenance supposedly, no pax on board.
FirstInLine
DarkSock
Ehhh just speed tape it
gauraSleepPilot
Me:Dear i am gonna be late.. door of my plane got ripped off ..! She: at least make some realistic excuses !
yaddiex3
Oopsie Doodle!
Maviyakuku
TIA! is the African equivalent of SNAFU or Fuck It! - as in: This Is Africa
TyrionOfHouseLannister
Rip aircraft?
brownribbon
Definitely not. That’s repairable.
dg24
looks like they failed their cross check and all call for the doors.
whoisyourdaddy
She was being pushed to a storage location for the day, likely didn't have any crew on it.
TheS4ndm4n
Last person to leave forgot to lock the door.
squanchit
What is cross check? Always been curious
shamoolie
The flight attendant doing the checks on the other side of the plane crosses over to double check - or cross checks
Kaitlynincanada
Usually there's 1 flight attendant per door. Cross check means double check the other person's work OR double check your own work.
saganworshipper
You. I like you.
ThaxtonSpringfieldTheThird
"1L, 1R"
brownribbon
“2L, 2R”
ThaxtonSpringfieldTheThird
veesee
Flight attendants prepare for departure- said no one on this flight
IMustGrowUpReally
Spanish guy was fired after pilot said "Doors to Manuel".
Emulen
But that's Jehovas favorit part of the plane, how will they market to this group now?
bottledham
The door's always open now - they'll love it!
MooseknuckleJim
It's literally part of checklists and flows.There are multiple people at fault to include ground crew, flight crew and gate agents
Filanwizard
I was wondering because one usually drives a jetway from the end with the airplane.
sambaah05
Happens. People make mistakes at work.
ThisOldCPU
This took a GROUP of people making mistakes. Don't defend this shit.
shack95
Making mistakes at the start or very end of a long shift ?
sambaah05
Not defending at all. Just seen lots of groups of people make mistakes at work. So I'm not surprised.
CaptainYesterday
This has a checklist that multiple people didnt do.1 person makes a mistake but several people made a fuckup.
tyrpestdeath
I work in aviation. Every major failure I have seen was the result of multiple people not doing their job. Only way it really happens, 1/2
tyrpestdeath
because if any ONE person had done what they were supposed to, you'd have never known about it.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I took engineering in school and our course on ethics was called "Disasters". Every major disaster occurs because multiple things go /1
hugemuffin
I took something similar in engineering school and then decided to go into software security. Failure's not an option, it's a feature.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
wrong. Because if just one thing goes wrong, no disaster. It's very easy to build a failsafe into each step. It's harder but still /2
whoisyourdaddy
gate agents? what's their role in all this?
KnightKrypto
Most gate agents close the door. Flight attendants only arm the slide and verify its closed all the way
CaptainYesterday
Depending on the airport, signaling the cockpit that the jet way is back, pulling the jet way back etc.
DubhIainn
Good that the ramp/slide was still safed. If that'd opened into the jetway, that would have been a mess.
bonetonelord
This wasn't a plane about to depart. It was being taken to a remote stand to wait for its return flight in the evening.
brownribbon
Cant the safety only be disengaged if the door is locked?
HollyGoBiteMe
Not locked, but yes when it's armed. It looks when the door is shut and the handle is fully rotated, but it's only armed when you pushback
lronMaiden
You can always grab the locking bar by hand and pull.
lronMaiden
More info: slide assy has a bar that is locked in to aircraft floor when slide is armed. If opened while armed it will trigger 1/2
Mxlespxles
You can grab my locking bar by hand and pull.
ps238principal
I've always wondered: If you have to remove the emergency door, do you get to keep it?
Filanwizard
I think the NTSB likes to have as many plane bits as possible which probably includes the exit door you tossed off the wing.
parkydiver
It counts as extra luggage, so you may get charged more if going through customs.
potatoardvarkhybrid
realrealluckless
Only if you're fit enough to run away and hide it.
HelpfulCorn
Aren't you supposed to throw it out the hole?
BoboTheIceMan
Yes, but you throw it out of the plane, this was already out of the plane, on the jetway. The hallway you walk down to board plane.
xXxSTEVOxXx
Can someone who works airliner MRO give a sense of how significant this damage is? Im curious about the airframe of if its limited
Edwinshap
Not as bad as you think. Door isn’t attached to primary structure when open, so aircraft is fine, new door and hinge needed though.
PorkBarrelTrollitics
BA may not have the right maintenance facility at Cape Town to fix it, so its likely to sit there costing $$$$ until they can get parts
NationalSecurityAgencyOfficial
The door of a pressurized metal tube is no longer attached to the pressurized metal tube. Metal tube is no longer pressurized.
xXxSTEVOxXx
I mean like: are the hinges destroyed and does that mean the door opening structure might also be compromised?
lronMaiden
Hard to say, structure has to be inspected to determine that. Expensive and time consuming regardless.
R100GSPD
Given how critical a doorframe is, Boeing is likely going to dispatch a team to conduct the inspection/repair. It'll be a significant job.
Wolfshead009
Hope they do better than the repair job on JAL123.