Family suicide. It's a thing in Asia. Don't know all the specifics of why but it seems like it's something in an older societal way of thinking where the whole family is ruined so you take the whole family with you. Idk if anyone has more specific information on this they can share?
You have to be in a very, very unhealthy, dark place to think of killing your child. I'm glad she didn't succeed in killing the child or herself. Hopefully she got help!
Yeah, i agree with the fuck her. She needs help sure, but a murder done out of desperation is still a murder. Family fathers that kill their wifes and kids out of dispair of the prostect of them leaving do not get the same amount of sympathy.
Men don't get nearly the same kind of sympathy. I'm also noticing a lack of sympathy for the child. At the least it was reckless endangerment, at worst attempted murder. No one gets a free pass from that.
I'm aware of that. Same with Andrea Yates and Chris Benoit. The only difference between them and this lady is murder vs. attempted murder. Does she need help? Sure. The child needs it a hell of a lot more.
The fact that you are being down voted for "child murder is bad" may be the worst thing I've ever seen on this site. This place is getting to be a very peculiar flavor of toxic, and I think I need to leave.
Nope. You attempt to murder your own child you've forfeited your right to be alive. There are absolutely zero reasons to forgive or help such a monstrous creature.
another black and white outrage troll. Hi little troll. if you can have empathy for the dog but not the women, then we know yer either a sociopath, a misogynist, a misanthrope or just an asshole. Who by their own reasoning should prolly have been shot a long time ago for casually endangering countless pll by driving under the influence of this shining personality.
This is fucking insane, how did we get here? Yes, child murder is bad. Full stop. Case closed. If we can't judge this behavior, there is literally nothing we can judge, because this is the most heinous thing you can do. Fucking. What? Jesus goddamn Christ.
She tried to commit suicide and take the kid. Suicidal thoughts are not rational. No one is saying it could ever be okay or justified, you're a fucking moron for even thinking that. There are more than two ways of thinking you dipshit. She needs help and the kid can be peotected at the same time. Idk if you're a troll or a fucking useless, asshole with no empathy, but either way, shut up.
I don't think that. I just don't make assumptions about a situation without knowing the facts. Things aren't always what they seem. Is that really her kid? Is she being coerced in any way? Is this an act of sheer desperation stemming from extreme injustice against her which might cause an even worse fate? I have no idea, but then neither do you.
Tell me you have no working experience in DEI without telling me. I am sexist, like you obvs. We are all sexist and racist, that's how we're socialised. Wouldn't you think chinas one kid policy is patriarchal? Chinas work ethics and nature exploitation is patriarchal, as well as gender roles & economy and the need for hero-narratives. If you'd know ANY statistics you'd know its impossible for women to not become a survivor throughout their lives. And yet we talk about the driver ._.
I'm fairly certain that is just some lady taking her child for a swim and the bus driver, seeing this, quickly grabbed the child, because neither of them were wearing their swim costumes
China bad, economy bad, no rights bad, no future bad, people think that if the government is going to mess with them they are going to snap on the government and they start killing people as an act of revenge. But this woman looks like she just wanted to kill herself and her child.
This video already has kids by now. China is no1 economic power now. I went to Shanghai and its like going 100 years in the future. Only electric vehicles and green parks. Clean air and silence in a 25mil pop city. Amazing
What makes you think this was motivated specifically by the government messing with someone? Things other than the government do happen in China, it's quite likely this person was just unwell
"It couldn't be the hyper-oppressive tyrannical and bloodthirsty government which micro-manages every aspect of the Chinese citizens' lives to the point they've even had a string of rebellions. I'm sure she's just fucked in the head because it's her personal problems. Not at all related to the social climate of enforced depression and inhumane treatment."
I wouldn't call the Chinese depressed. Sure, it's a bad system, but most of them don't even know about it. They just live their lives. And all the people I met there were far happier than any Americans I know. With a few exceptions of course. Generally speaking, they've got closer communities in China and we know from many studies that close relationships create happiness. Something Americans have very very little of. The last uprising was against COVID restrictions and not the CCP overall. HK
Had uprisings against the mainland interference in their elections and against their regime, but that's a very different place that didn't want to fit in to Chinese society. They were used to a democracy and hate the idea of a dictatorship running things, but the general population of China don't even know they're in a dictatorship. They genuinely don't think about politics at all. How would they even know to? So no, this is FAR more likely a family/personal issue. Quite likely her husband
I know this isn't the hot take but it's the fair, measured take that is probably correct. If anything, it's how the bus driver behaved that is a measure of society and I think that transcends boarders. .. I hope.
It's getting there, but it's no where near as bad as it is in China. You literally disappear if you speak out against the government. How else you think they have the shortest waiting period for organ transplants in the world? One government official needed a heart and had three ready in almost no time at all.
and 2 where hundreds of dead bodies were found buried behind a Mississippi prison https://www.npr.org/2024/01/12/1224449631/mississippi-jail-graves-investigation
Not sure it's better that they're separate incidents though..
I’m sorry you were downvoted. My parent was also suicidal and explicitly blamed me. Biracial child. I wish more people would NOT have kids if they can’t handle the burden.
She needed a new heel for her shoe. So she decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So she tied an onion to her belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that she had an onion on her belt, which was the style at the time. She didn't have any white onions...
I can weigh in, as I once had a boss try to kill his girlfriend and then commit suicide because she got an abortion: it's because they think they own the other person. The other person doesn't have a life without them in the killer's eyes.
People in a crisis state are not behaving rationally. Not trying to be reductive to mental health but it really is simply their motivations are usually not going to make sense to someone in a non-crisis state.
Depends on the home situation. Could be mental issues, The woman could be afraid both she and her kid would be sold into trafficking by loansharks tomorrow. There are as many reasons as stars in the sky. Whether or not they count as justified isn't a conversation anyone outside her situation should be discussing on comment sections rather than as part of an investigation
Because death starts to seem like such a safe reprieve that it feels like a mercy to shuffle them off rather than let them suffer the consequences of your actions.
I have a few extremely social/bonded pets that get depressed when I leave the house and break down if I'm away on business more than 24 hours. If I were dying of something like cancer, I'd consider putting them down rather than making them suffer my absence in pain and confusion. They're relatively old, though; almost time anyway...
Same. There was a horrific case here in Australia years ago where a man in a custody battle threw one of his kids off the Westgate bridge while the other kid was still in the car. Absolutely horrible thing. Rocked the country. They've since installed really high fencing on the bridge now.
Unpopular take... why is it am unhealthy frame of mind? We do not live in great world, we will work until we die, most likely broke all while watching horrible things happen. Is life a gift or a curse?
I am not suicidal, it does however run in my family. The above statement i made was paraphrased from what my 12 year old niece said to me, before she succeeded on her 5th attempt. (First attempt was at age 8)
She has a loving family, had therapists and a network of people who did all they could
And in the end her will to take her life won the battle. She actually pretended to be "better" for months. The day before you hung herself, she hung out with all of her siblings and had a fun day. The day she did it, she helped her mother do her hair and makeup for a wedding they were attending. Made plans with a friend. Waited for her parents to leave for the wedding. Turned her phone off, put it out of her reach and hung herself.
I really miss her :( brilliant child with awful demons
If the world was so terrible to you you didn't want to live in it anymore, why would you leave your kid to suffer it? Also I guess it's the idea of just not wanting to leave their kid behind.
Suicidal people aren't exactly the greatest at making judgement calls...
This part. People who are suicidal don't think straight. I mean come on, they want to go against their own life. That's extremely difficult and damaging to the psyche. She probably thought he was better off dead with her, that way whatever she suffered, he would never have to.
Ibe discussed the “selfishness” of suicide a few time, when it happened more than once pretty close to me. Not selfish in the sense of leaving loved ones behind, but the trauma they cause to strangers by using such a public method. One guy i knew shot himself in the head in his car on a schoolroad, and a couple of kids found gim in the morning… Another i knew jumped in fromt of a train..
Both were caring, intelligent and severely depressed. Its difficult enough to try and understand >
SJBSavageInk
Family suicide. It's a thing in Asia. Don't know all the specifics of why but it seems like it's something in an older societal way of thinking where the whole family is ruined so you take the whole family with you. Idk if anyone has more specific information on this they can share?
t4piwa
But they all wear masks
SmackGawd
Was the water only 2 foot deep? Because that seems like a survivable distance
QueefMalone
The world is a dark place.
dbox
This clip shows the light of humanity saving a human who thought there was only dark.
5tradivariuS
Most of the world is really bright, it's out monkey brain hyper focusing on bad things since they can be a threat
StellaMatutina
Also a bright place. But there are the dark that shriek about not filming the good deeds
WheelieNelson420
No, this clip shows the opposite. The light to dark ratio is super high. I recommend a book called Humankind.
Yakeshinu
UndulatingTerrain
You have to be in a very, very unhealthy, dark place to think of killing your child. I'm glad she didn't succeed in killing the child or herself. Hopefully she got help!
InnerBushman
To top it off, it's in China, a place where people usually avoid helping strangers in fear of being sued worse than in the Sentient Cheeto land.
HoledMyHand
Now someone reverse it
nelllybellly1
Not the first time I've seen this clip but very impactful.
muzzoltov
Breaks my heart. Blessing to all.
thegarts
Jesus Christ
TheGgreen100
Yeah they checked the scene, he was nowhere to be found, like usual.
TsubakiTragic
pull you back up from -ve
TheGgreen100
What? Are you having a stroke or something?
TsubakiTragic
not at all... when I read your comment I noticed it was at -1 so I upvoted to at least get you back to zero.
TheGgreen100
Ah I see. Thanks very much!
SmackGawd
Wearing mask, dint want to catch anything b4 I yeet us both off this bridge
Glothy
“Look at the pretty boats, son!” Gets assaulted by bus driver.
kkanne20
lol
tarkus10
The US "government" is cutting back on mental health funding.
AgentCatherine
This is not in the US.
RooGryphon
it will be
Jaqdakloun
What, and I can not stress this enough, THE FUCK!!!
Skyff
Wow talk about being in the right place at the right time
thedarkwoodsman
Aided by sone great situational awareness
Charlawilliams70
And giving a hoot to do something about it.
helyx
My mental health must be on the decline, because I thought you were talkin' about the little kid at first.
DarkRedCape
The way he reacted says maybe this isn’t the first time he’s seen something like this.
Mithi
An it looks like there is no real sidewalk there, so even seeing someone just walking on that side is already an oddity
andydicktracymorganfairchild
With multiple cameras pointing in the right direction
Qualtagh
*with the standard array of bus cameras
charondaboatman
Pretty much standard on every fucking bus in every city around the world. Try harder to be smarter.
andydicktracymorganfairchild
What about the REGULAR buses?
charondaboatman
Harder. Try harder.
andydicktracymorganfairchild
TechnicallyTrueIGuess
it's a bus moron. there are cameras for a reason
andydicktracymorganfairchild
Lol you angy no talk you
ElbowDeepInTheElbowDeepBandwagon
You stupid, no talkie at all.
TechnicallyTrueIGuess
I'm not angry, just disappointed
andydicktracymorganfairchild
flikcx
Q
IgnisInvictus
Not every day you get to stop a murder suicide. The dudes are awesome, fuck her.
Cillellic
Yeah, i agree with the fuck her. She needs help sure, but a murder done out of desperation is still a murder. Family fathers that kill their wifes and kids out of dispair of the prostect of them leaving do not get the same amount of sympathy.
IgnisInvictus
Men don't get nearly the same kind of sympathy. I'm also noticing a lack of sympathy for the child. At the least it was reckless endangerment, at worst attempted murder. No one gets a free pass from that.
lordofllama
Mental illness is fucked and a more likely cause of this situation then just a horrible person.
IgnisInvictus
I'm aware of that. Same with Andrea Yates and Chris Benoit. The only difference between them and this lady is murder vs. attempted murder. Does she need help? Sure. The child needs it a hell of a lot more.
kuijpers27184
Why her?
jjunns
But what's the point in dragging her when there's NO context whatsoever? Just celebrate the guy.
CapttainKillJoy
She’s at the end of her rope and obviously thought that nobody cared. She needs help.
VikingHobbit
No! Help her. She does it because she does not see any other way. Not out of malice.
whitebbwolf
kkanne20
exactly
IgnisInvictus
I know it's not out of malice. I don't care. When you try to murder a child your motivation does not matter.
DanCodyComics
The fact that you are being down voted for "child murder is bad" may be the worst thing I've ever seen on this site. This place is getting to be a very peculiar flavor of toxic, and I think I need to leave.
jimd1954
accident or arson the results are the same smokey bear
Someshithead241
Perhaps she thought it better than dying and leaving the child alone to suffer, just like she had.
DanCodyComics
Stop worshiping death you fucking psycho. You can't murder your own child, end of story.
Someshithead241
What about that is worship?
kadaeux
whitebbwolf
CorrectMostOfTheTime
No id rather they address her mental issues and try to fix what is broken here.
kadaeux
Nope. You attempt to murder your own child you've forfeited your right to be alive. There are absolutely zero reasons to forgive or help such a monstrous creature.
whitebbwolf
yeah, just kill the starved, chained up, traumatized and afraid dog instead of working on rehabing it. Empathy? Fail. u fail. Outrage troll.
DeathLemons
Posturing much?
kadaeux
Oh yes, comparing someone trying to murder her kid to a starved, chained up, traumatised and afraid dog. That's definitely a comparable thing. No.
If you attempt to murder your kid for absolutely any reason whatsoever, you should be lined up against a wall and shot. No exceptions.
whitebbwolf
another black and white outrage troll. Hi little troll. if you can have empathy for the dog but not the women, then we know yer either a sociopath, a misogynist, a misanthrope or just an asshole. Who by their own reasoning should prolly have been shot a long time ago for casually endangering countless pll by driving under the influence of this shining personality.
metricman67
Why “fuck her”?
You don’t know anything about her!
IgnisInvictus
I know she tried to murder a child.
PeeterGrant
Yeah, but why? You don't know anything about it.
kadaeux
The fact you think that absolutely anything can justify attempting to murder your kid is disgusting.
DanCodyComics
This is fucking insane, how did we get here? Yes, child murder is bad. Full stop. Case closed. If we can't judge this behavior, there is literally nothing we can judge, because this is the most heinous thing you can do. Fucking. What? Jesus goddamn Christ.
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
She tried to commit suicide and take the kid. Suicidal thoughts are not rational. No one is saying it could ever be okay or justified, you're a fucking moron for even thinking that. There are more than two ways of thinking you dipshit. She needs help and the kid can be peotected at the same time. Idk if you're a troll or a fucking useless, asshole with no empathy, but either way, shut up.
PeeterGrant
I don't think that. I just don't make assumptions about a situation without knowing the facts. Things aren't always what they seem. Is that really her kid? Is she being coerced in any way? Is this an act of sheer desperation stemming from extreme injustice against her which might cause an even worse fate? I have no idea, but then neither do you.
MCNewYorkLives
I REALLY want to know the story behind this.
KittyKlimt6
Men = hero. Better not talk about how much abusive behaviour of whom led to this womans state
Dracon27
Oh, you definitely sound like a sexist piece of shit.
KittyKlimt6
Tell me you have no working experience in DEI without telling me. I am sexist, like you obvs. We are all sexist and racist, that's how we're socialised. Wouldn't you think chinas one kid policy is patriarchal? Chinas work ethics and nature exploitation is patriarchal, as well as gender roles & economy and the need for hero-narratives. If you'd know ANY statistics you'd know its impossible for women to not become a survivor throughout their lives. And yet we talk about the driver ._.
Dracon27
The driver, who saved a kid from getting thrown off a bridge.
Stop digging your hole.
SoberToast
I'm fairly certain that is just some lady taking her child for a swim and the bus driver, seeing this, quickly grabbed the child, because neither of them were wearing their swim costumes
iktome99
That bus drivers name...
nerdyvet
Albert Einsteinong
howimetyourauntrobin2
Hero the Heroic Hero
DaOutlaw
Keanu Reeves as LAPD Officer Jack Traven
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GrundleTongs
False. Steve Buscemi.
inthepines
Now you know the rest of the story
jimd1954
Paul Harvey
SPQAAE
China bad, economy bad, no rights bad, no future bad, people think that if the government is going to mess with them they are going to snap on the government and they start killing people as an act of revenge. But this woman looks like she just wanted to kill herself and her child.
CrikShore
This video already has kids by now. China is no1 economic power now. I went to Shanghai and its like going 100 years in the future. Only electric vehicles and green parks. Clean air and silence in a 25mil pop city. Amazing
brandonblk
i see the appeal, who'd want to raise kids in this shitwhole of a life whilst also existing
ProbablyAlright
What makes you think this was motivated specifically by the government messing with someone? Things other than the government do happen in China, it's quite likely this person was just unwell
KommanderKayriel
"It couldn't be the hyper-oppressive tyrannical and bloodthirsty government which micro-manages every aspect of the Chinese citizens' lives to the point they've even had a string of rebellions. I'm sure she's just fucked in the head because it's her personal problems. Not at all related to the social climate of enforced depression and inhumane treatment."
Strategicgnomer
I wouldn't call the Chinese depressed. Sure, it's a bad system, but most of them don't even know about it. They just live their lives. And all the people I met there were far happier than any Americans I know. With a few exceptions of course. Generally speaking, they've got closer communities in China and we know from many studies that close relationships create happiness. Something Americans have very very little of. The last uprising was against COVID restrictions and not the CCP overall. HK
Strategicgnomer
Had uprisings against the mainland interference in their elections and against their regime, but that's a very different place that didn't want to fit in to Chinese society. They were used to a democracy and hate the idea of a dictatorship running things, but the general population of China don't even know they're in a dictatorship. They genuinely don't think about politics at all. How would they even know to? So no, this is FAR more likely a family/personal issue. Quite likely her husband
2Soon4Baboon
I know this isn't the hot take but it's the fair, measured take that is probably correct. If anything, it's how the bus driver behaved that is a measure of society and I think that transcends boarders. .. I hope.
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
Sounds a lot like nowadays US. I hate this timeline.
SPQAAE
It's getting there, but it's no where near as bad as it is in China. You literally disappear if you speak out against the government. How else you think they have the shortest waiting period for organ transplants in the world? One government official needed a heart and had three ready in almost no time at all.
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
But wasn't there some news about dead bodies found behind a US prison and the dead missing organs? (Or am I mixing up to different kind of news?)
psych0bunneh
I think you're combining two stories
1 where an Alabama prison was being sued because they were returning the bodies of dead convicts to their families missing organs https://apnews.com/article/alabama-prisons-inmates-bodies-internal-organs-394ee93d95f7ad798191e0abdb5df0ec
and 2 where hundreds of dead bodies were found buried behind a Mississippi prison https://www.npr.org/2024/01/12/1224449631/mississippi-jail-graves-investigation
Not sure it's better that they're separate incidents though..
OddlyPacific
Someone had a child. Some years later, that child’s guardian decided that was a bad call.
fydelstyx
Not sure why this was down voted so hard, this is reality.
SternLecturePlumbing
I’m sorry you were downvoted. My parent was also suicidal and explicitly blamed me. Biracial child. I wish more people would NOT have kids if they can’t handle the burden.
gablestout
She needed a new heel for her shoe. So she decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So she tied an onion to her belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that she had an onion on her belt, which was the style at the time. She didn't have any white onions...
EvilBilbo
https://laughingsquid.com/grampa-simpson-onion-on-my-belt-tattoo/
HairyWalrusWizard
I have no idea what this is about but the chaotic energy both intrigues and amuses me.
Lostarchitorture
From 2021: https://www.newsflare.com/video/460514/heroic-bus-driver-saves-woman-trying-to-kill-her-son-and-herself-in-china
hickorybakedbeans
That's gotta be like at least a +10 to his social credit score
MCNewYorkLives
JFC. I figured that was it, but I just don't get the idea of killing your kid
UnapologeticTeaEnjoyer
I can weigh in, as I once had a boss try to kill his girlfriend and then commit suicide because she got an abortion: it's because they think they own the other person. The other person doesn't have a life without them in the killer's eyes.
OverthinkingThis
People in a crisis state are not behaving rationally. Not trying to be reductive to mental health but it really is simply their motivations are usually not going to make sense to someone in a non-crisis state.
leshawk
Depends on the home situation. Could be mental issues, The woman could be afraid both she and her kid would be sold into trafficking by loansharks tomorrow. There are as many reasons as stars in the sky. Whether or not they count as justified isn't a conversation anyone outside her situation should be discussing on comment sections rather than as part of an investigation
AVerySillyPuppy
Because death starts to seem like such a safe reprieve that it feels like a mercy to shuffle them off rather than let them suffer the consequences of your actions.
I have a few extremely social/bonded pets that get depressed when I leave the house and break down if I'm away on business more than 24 hours. If I were dying of something like cancer, I'd consider putting them down rather than making them suffer my absence in pain and confusion. They're relatively old, though; almost time anyway...
ThisNameUnavailable
I hope you get many more years of love with your babies ❤️
tangent
Same. There was a horrific case here in Australia years ago where a man in a custody battle threw one of his kids off the Westgate bridge while the other kid was still in the car. Absolutely horrible thing. Rocked the country. They've since installed really high fencing on the bridge now.
eggmuffin
When someone makes an attempt to end their own life, they are generally not in a healthy frame of mind.
paullyboy1999
Unpopular take... why is it am unhealthy frame of mind? We do not live in great world, we will work until we die, most likely broke all while watching horrible things happen. Is life a gift or a curse?
I am not suicidal, it does however run in my family. The above statement i made was paraphrased from what my 12 year old niece said to me, before she succeeded on her 5th attempt. (First attempt was at age 8)
She has a loving family, had therapists and a network of people who did all they could
paullyboy1999
And in the end her will to take her life won the battle. She actually pretended to be "better" for months. The day before you hung herself, she hung out with all of her siblings and had a fun day. The day she did it, she helped her mother do her hair and makeup for a wedding they were attending. Made plans with a friend. Waited for her parents to leave for the wedding. Turned her phone off, put it out of her reach and hung herself.
I really miss her :( brilliant child with awful demons
Radix865
If the world was so terrible to you you didn't want to live in it anymore, why would you leave your kid to suffer it? Also I guess it's the idea of just not wanting to leave their kid behind.
Suicidal people aren't exactly the greatest at making judgement calls...
KawaiiInari
This part. People who are suicidal don't think straight. I mean come on, they want to go against their own life. That's extremely difficult and damaging to the psyche. She probably thought he was better off dead with her, that way whatever she suffered, he would never have to.
Z0op
Ibe discussed the “selfishness” of suicide a few time, when it happened more than once pretty close to me. Not selfish in the sense of leaving loved ones behind, but the trauma they cause to strangers by using such a public method. One guy i knew shot himself in the head in his car on a schoolroad, and a couple of kids found gim in the morning…
Another i knew jumped in fromt of a train..
Both were caring, intelligent and severely depressed. Its difficult enough to try and understand >