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gwaur
Is this what some call intelligent design?
IamtheAIyoushouldfear
That'll be $30,000 thanks!
KingZoop
i am now wondering if a narcoleptic is waking to lots of pain
Gantzz321
no signs of choking, heart condition or my pick attention seeker
Geracht
Choking signs are like drowning signs--they're QUIET. Noise means air. Good response.
UnattendedDeviant
Looks like he lost needed oxygen to brain before much choking.
stevekemerer
The Heineken maneuver, stay thirsty my friends.
MAN9000
Saved my mother-in-law. Her husband and two adult children children were there, but I was the only who know proper technique.
MerryXMan
They don’t teach it in Australian first aid class, we get shown the ‘slap them fucking hard’ method.
MerryXMan
*on the back. Slap them fucking hard on the back.
MAN9000
Lol. Good to know you don't just slap them back and forth on the face while talking, "Get it out!"
MissTuchanka
As a nurse.... u don't do Heinrich on an unconscious patient, at this point lie them down and start chest compressions. Check the airway!
babycoolredhead
People who are quick to action have my utmost respect. I wish I knew how to perfect it, I panic but follow direction fine.
Vter1
People have a tendency to freeze and think "someone else will step in." It's a natural reaction. Kudos to these folks for stepping up.
babycoolredhead
Yes. I doubt my ability to respond properly, I have instant empathy, and when the person who has a clear mind comes, I listen and obey.
mellymelie
Went to a Brazilian steakhouse and someone I was with vegan choking and at first everyone thought it was a joke but she turned red. V scary
wasitsomethingisaid
Vegan choking at a steakhouse…
mellymelie
Oh Lord i meant group ??
wasitsomethingisaid
You made me giggle. Thank you
mellymelie
And actually it was supposed to be BEGAN ?
tinydog
Moopahdoopah
That facew when you're trying to have a smoke and some asshat takes your picture... you just know it's going online.
turkletoon
That waiter stopped and put his mask on before he touched him, I love him
ForRohan
Da fux?
tinyfootprints
I accidentally inhaled an ice cube once. Couldn't breathe. Did a headstand and coughed. Dislodged it. Very scary.
MyWifeCallsMeChungus
I was really stoned waiting for a train. Old man the other side started choking, climbed down through the pit and performed the hiemlich>
Primotimewaster
I Heimliched a man that was choking on a piece of steak larger than a pk of cigs. He was walking into the men's rm when he almost passed out
Primotimewaster
If he had made it to the restroom, he would have died there. All cuz he didn't want to cause a scene.
Rauca
One staff member put a mask on so could be recent. I think he was too afraid to cough loudly. People might have wrongly thought Covid?
thisplaceisjustanothernewssitenow
I’ll have, what he’s having
davyclam
The Salmon Mousse!
Bobdobtherob
That family just straight up eating their dinner the entire time in the back...
bonessasan
Bystander Effect. I've experienced it and it's both bizarre and strong.
Imalwaysready
Hey, know your limits. If you can't offer help, it's often best to just stay the hell out of the way.
Bobdobtherob
Well said friend
majortool
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgF9NppQI_s Makes me cry every time.
cryborg
Does anyone know what happened? I don't think he was choking either. More like a heart problem maybe.
Imalwaysready
Choking. Sao Paulo, Brazil last week.
fibbertitgibbet
Nice. Saw a chance to hump him and took it.
ButteryBiscuitBass
Love how everyone ran to help.
TheSaltyCaptain
All my first-aid and CPR courses in AUS have always stressed to never attempt the Heimlich manoeuvre. Instead they teach:
TheSaltyCaptain
Bend the patient forwards and give up to 5 sharp back blows with the heel of one hand between the shoulder blades, checking if the object >
Kwaj
U.S. here. In school we were taught that back blows may drive the blockage farther in, worsening the problem. Mid-90's, for reference.
TheSaltyCaptain
relieved after each back blow. If this is unsuccessful, give up to 5 chest thrusts by placing one hand in the middle of patient’s back for >
TheSaltyCaptain
support and heel of other hand in the CPR compression position, checking if the object is relieved after each chest thrust. If the >
TheSaltyCaptain
blockage does not clear continue alternating 5 back blows with 5 chest thrusts until medical aid arrives. Do CPR if they become unconscious.
YourIceCreamMan
There are what are called, "The universal signs of chocking"- gripping the throat, standing up... I saw none of these. Maybe a cardiac event
Imalwaysready
That is how it works in movies after all...
YourIceCreamMan
Former EMT- Now a nurse. It also works like this in real life. It is VERY unusual for victims to not clutch the throat.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I thought that too but there are new stories that confirm he choked. The vid is just cropped to start when he looses consciousness.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
You can google Sao Paulo Food Court Choking
tjc9899
Most people know/do these if choking. You don't give the heimlich with a clear airway. Any responsible person/first responder would ABC
tjc9899
Airway (clear, flowing) breathing (reaching lungs and good chest rise/fall) circulation (pulses. Mainly at main arteries - carotid/brachial)
BigDaddysMeatWagon
You have to intentionally make the sign. It looks like he didn't want to make a scene thinking he could fix it himself.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Don't be afraid to make a scene if you might die, people. If you're choking, make a scene.
Gwaeron86
Some people can't ask for help. I'm one of them. I don't know if it is growing up as middle child where money was tight or something else.
QuartzPoker
The grabbing of the throat is an intentional signal to others that you have to do yourself. It's not a reflex.
chapterhawk101
Nope it was choking. This was in the news down in Brazil.
Theericaexperience
Contrary to believe, choling is usually very silent. Especially in children. Gagging and coughing mean air can still pass through.
Theericaexperience
Belief not believe****?
AbtachaAboma
Look up how drowning people act. It's dangerous when they go quiet. Movies don't teach us the right thing there ...
wastingtimeonimgur88
I know someone who died at a cubs game from choking surrounded by people. They never knew she was choking. Sometimes there arent signs.
FatersGonnaFate
Yeah but Cubs fans are assholes
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I can see someone not noticing a person choking at a ball game but I bet if there was a camera on her you would have noticed something awry.
wastingtimeonimgur88
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/cubs-fan-chokes-death-hot-dog-article-1.1338453%3foutputType=amp
CongratsYouAreHereNow
That’s horrible, I’m sorry
TrapperGinHawkeye
I had the wind knocked out of me at hockey. Flipped In the air and landed on my back. Diaphragm spasmed and I couldn’t breath or talk.
TrapperGinHawkeye
Fucking scariest 30 seconds of blackness until a teammate clued in and pushed my knees into my chest. Choking sign didn’t work.
Feralkyn
What did pushing your knees into your chest do, out of interest?
TrapperGinHawkeye
Much to my surprise, relaxed the diaphragm. Instant results. Thanks to old school Dwayne from hockey.
Feralkyn
Thank you!
Sayagain
So Lloyd from dumb and dumber was correct with pumping the knees?
YourIceCreamMan
that was caught early enough that the compressions restored his heart to a working rhythm???
SegyeJibae
looks like the dude fainted, low blood sugar perhaps? it's definitely not choking
wastingtimeonimgur88
It definitely can be choking. This happened to someone i knew.
wastingtimeonimgur88
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/cubs-fan-chokes-death-hot-dog-article-1.1338453%3foutputType=amp
couchcaster
Myth that compressions restore the rhythm. They're just used to keep the blood flowing and oxygenated. Medics use medicine for the heart.
brumbasse
This is why any compressions is better than none. (Weak, wrong area like stomach) Learn CPR though, it's easy
brumbasse
This is why any compressions is better than none. (Weak, wrong area like stomach) Learn CPR though, it's easy
NarratorsVoice
Choked on calamari once. Terrifying not being able to get any air in and the others thought I was kidding until I started to go purple.
PantherMilk
Yes! A fucking grilled cuttlefish nearly got me once.
TheNoirAntagonist
Yah those tentacles are no joke I had to shove my fingers down my throat when that happened because everyone thought I was joking. idiots
DontTazeMeBrah
Zebra cake got me.
NoIdidntsayAbeLincolnIsaidHeyBlinkin
A worthy adversary
DontTazeMeBrah
I underestimated the dry-ness
cominginhot
https://imgur.com/UcvPJqW
AshjehFox
were they able to save you?
DoctorSniffles
Uh did that dude have an absence seizure or a cardiac event? Wtf are you doing the heimlich for?
DrunkenChekhov
You (generally) don't lose tone with an absence seizure so wouldn't be high on my dd.
LordDebuchan
They are in a food court. It’d honestly be the first thing that comes to my mind too.
supervillainsevilmoustache
Without observation the context matters. If you find someone unconscious on a job site head trauma is #1, unless they’re in a confined space
supervillainsevilmoustache
... etc, etc. there are check down lists based on context when a victim is found but not observed trauma. Nobody was looking at him
NKato
Obviously not. My question is, did he live?
Imalwaysready
For the choking he was experiencing.
idekwut
The heimlich is essentially accomplishing CPR and airway clearance in one. It takes a couple thrusts to know if air is moving or not. (1/2)
UselessIgnacio
This was gonna be the other part of my argument (above).
idekwut
Google IAC-CPR if you're skeptical of the veractity. It's not as effective as traditional CPR, but it addresses ABCs with focus on airway.
Tminus1622d
Thanks. I've only received training for babies and toddlers and that came with repositioning and checking airways steps. An adult is way>>
Tminus1622d
to big and heavy for any of that. I guess eventually you should switch to regular cpr for an adults?
Someusername77
Had no idea. Good comment. Thanks for taking the time to share.
UselessIgnacio
Brazil, he was choking, security did heimlich, he regained oxygen saturation and perfusion. He was trying to swallow or cough discretely 1/
FatersGonnaFate
Sauce?
UselessIgnacio
(Covering his brow) and thought he had control, until he didn't. Wtf are you even commenting for? 2/2
DoctorSniffles
KMakyra
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
I performed the Hamlisch on a kid at a restaurant a few years ago. She went limp in my arms and it was the most terrifying thing ever. 1/2
Dashirl
I've done it three times. Once to a friends lil bro as a kid, and twice working w DD adults. It hurts and it is TERRIFYING.
periodinyourbloodymarycanruinagooddate
Important: Always get a medical checkup afterwards. There can be swelling in the throat than can lead to choking a couple hours later.
RishiMaru
I love your name and the book.
Dafoosa2
We don’t do H in au. We’re taught to bend them over if possible and whack ‘em hard in the back.
IamTOOOLDforThisShite
*Heimlich*
fbutt09
Thank you
ProfessorAssBlast2020
are you correcting Hamwilsch himself?
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Hineylick*
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
Thank you. Goddamn autocorrect.
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
She coughed up a chunk of half chewed chicken and was fine. It was fucking scary.
fbutt09
That’s probably the greatest achievement I’ve could ever do in my life. Out of interest, so you keep in touch?
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
Never saw her again.
MrMetroid
Thank you for saving that girl, alot of people die of simple things like choking
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
Also important to specifically tell someone to call 911 NOW. Better to call back and cancel the response than have them show up too late.
surroundedbytwits
Great job and so true about 911. Assign someone to call.
vonkeswick
100% I remember seeing something once that says to point to someone and tell them "you, call 911 right now!" Because if you say "someone >
losersmanual
Good work my man! And it's Heimlich.
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
Goddamn autocorrect!
funkyweenus
I witnessed a choking once. Sweet, little old grandma at a Chili's on a busy Fri. or Sat. night. The only noise in the entire place was>
funkyweenus
Coming from the handful of people right around her. You could hear a pin drop in the rest of the restaurant. Damn near everyone dialed 911>
funkyweenus
And they got her up and breathing again about 3 or 4 minutes before the ambulance got there. It was so, so scary to witness! I can't even>
funkyweenus
Imagine how it must've felt to have had someone's life in your hands! Thank you SO much for saving that kiddo! You're a hero!
GothKirby
Everyone else in the restaurant:
dogmoind
Marvin Hamlisch, the composer?!
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kg90390
The compressor
sjs260563
you're my hero ;)
thisisntverybritish
"Heimlich manoeuvre" is trade marked, so on my first aid course we have to call them "abdominal thrusts". Exact same thing.
velovali
The compressor
kg90390
The compressor
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kg90390
The compressor
kg90390
The compressor
terriblethunderlizards
Id like to know what happened. Didnt look like he was choking. Great to see that many ppl willing to help tho.
fbutt09
Chocking but it seemed like he blanked out and lost consciousness
Netskimmer
I was thinking the same thing. Looks more like he was feeling bad then passed out.
Imalwaysready
Yeah, lack of oxygen will do that to you...
Netskimmer
Yeah, but you don't typically just sit there and calmly choke to death.
Imalwaysready
Apparently, reading up on choking, it's far more common than you'd think. We're all just ignorant thanks to TV and movie portrayals.
Netskimmer
Tha's pretty crazy. I've heard of choking people running to the bathroom out of embarrassment and dieing, but not just sitting there.
abbazabba2366
The video begins right when the guy passes out, so who onows?
IWouldLoveLunaGood
There is a condition called bolus death where something you swallow gets blocked in your larynx and triggers autnomous nerves leading (1/2)
IWouldLoveLunaGood
To instant cardiac arrest. The patients normally don't struggle but just pass out like he did. (2/2)
eddbrowne
So maybe it was PR and CPR.
DexterWantsToBattle
As a CMA, let me tell ya , that's what half of choking incidents look like , you do not have a lot of time to clear it yourself
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I didnt think he was either, but there news stories from Sao Paulo that confirm. It's just cropped right when he passes out.
Xerxes4242
Could be a syncopy episode. Didn't see anything leading up, but no signs of choking or extreme distress that I see.
theLASTromanNJ
People only help when they themselves are completely safe, don't except help if there is any risk
SpiderTrike2000
In my experience if one helps all helps...if no-one begins to help ya fucked
sciencenf10
Yup!
zazznz
The choking most likely happened after being turned upright while passed out. Not necessarily the cause of the episode
slinkiisu
As someone who once accidentally forgot to breathe, that is exactly what suffocating is like. You suddenly feel very tired and then pass out
sdfsfsfsgs
plot twist: he has narcolepsy and now 6 broke ribs
ethandurst
I was taught that when performing cpr or the Heimlich, you’re likely gonna break ribs. And that’s ok.
ThePhystopian
I've been told by a doctor that if you don't break ribs, then you are not doing it hard enough...
uitSCHOT
Also you might end up with a ruptured spleen (small chance, but does need checking out) so if you perform the heimlich on someone (1/?)
ethandurst
Good to know ty
uitSCHOT
Always make sure they visit a doctor to have that checked so they don't die of a ruptured spleen later on. Obviously this is different (2/?)
uitSCHOT
In the US as advising someone to see a doctor can lead to them getting in severe medical debt (3/3)
DocWino
Low blood sugar would have been my first guess. Or some kind of seizure. Aneurysm? Choking may not have crossed my mind.
EyeseateaMan
Choking/drowning is quiet. If they are coughing and flailing still then they are still breathing. Poorly, but breathing.
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EyeseateaMan
Very true
TheMayorOfTittyCity
You cant cough when you cant breath, but you absolutely can be distressed. Anoxia causes agitation, you usually dont just sit calmly.
neomagus00
Usually! I almost passed out choking on a pretzel, in the left lane of an 8 lane highway. My passenger didn't know until I heimliched it up.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Drowning can be quiet because you are underwater, but people are absolutely are distressed when the drown. You just cant see them.
colt64
Yeah, mom had to give me the heimlich when I was a kid. Couldn't make a noise and was frozen with fear. Lucky she saw me turn purple.
EyeseateaMan
Scary stuff. Glad you are okay
O11i3
Loud and red, they're not dead. Silent and blue, they need you
Ryebread91
You can flail and not breath. But coughing and talking is still a sign air is getting through
EyeseateaMan
Flailing takes O2. If you are not prepared, you don't last too long
mrollings53
Talking is a sign of air going out not a sign of air coming in.
Ryebread91
Right. Not all coughing means air is able to get in but if you can see them clearly inhale for the next cough it's a much better sign.
TheCrazyNorwegian
Drowning is quiet bc you are under water..?
Derrial
Yes and if you are able to get your head out of water for a moment you won't yell for help because you are too desperate to take in a breath
SLCtechie
Was most likely choking and tried to take care of it himself. Could have been afraid of causing a scene
raulote
Classic me
Birdmandingo
Great, here I am home alone eating a pizza and suddenly I'm stressing about my food killing me.
Blank1612
That's how my grandpa died... Choking on his own food and the nurse next to him didn't event notice...
BlackCatSerenade99900
Jesus, I am so sorry.
Blank1612
Thank you
ThatOneGuyFromTv
Guys just so you know. Choking like this, makes absolutely no noise. So if you're ever in a situation like this, draw as much attention as
ThatOneGuyFromTv
You can. If someone is coughing, then the airway is open just let them cough it up
DadddyWarlord
i remember choking on a crab shell i didnt make a fuss but i knew i was jk. i had the same reaction as this guy
Hiboredimdad
I get this. I once waited 4 hours in excruciating pain in the woods because I didn't want to wake my best friend up.He called me a fucking
Hiboredimdad
Idiot when he finally woke up and I asked for help lol
Bahklava
I have EoE and very luckily if I have an issue it's passed the wind pipe so I am still able to breath until I get it out.
Xerxes4242
True, but in a different location I'd probably think cardiac arrest or syncope first if all I saw was this collapse.
Noksus
Sounds like about what I would do
Mayokopp
Rather dying than causing a scene sounds concerningly relatable
BigDaddysMeatWagon
That's what I'm seeing. Didn't want to make a scene and just lost the fight and passed out. So lucky that person behind him noticed.
FetchMyBrownPants
Just like actual drowning victims. They don't often thrash around.
stabthecrab
As someone that actually almost drowned, this is very true. You’re too tired to get your hands in the air, lucky for me someone noticed
stabthecrab
And instructed me to get out of the rip tide by moving to the side, I thought I was gonna die, dude saved me. I ended up swimming to the
stabthecrab
Rocks, cutting my feet, dislocating my shoulder, but didn’t die
fbutt09
That’s so sad
idekwut
As an introvert, I'd rather die than ask for emergency help in public.
badboybuffet
no you wouldnt.
KaptainObveeus
Am also introvert but in such a case I would get help
toffeecoffee
As another introvert, I'd rather you overcome that, ask for help when you need it and just don't die. We're worthwhile ppl too.
alaest0r
Id hate to bother someone. What if i ask for help and still die? That would suck for the helper. Ima just go over into this corner and cease
EuphCat
I see the logic, but they could be more sad that they didn't even have a chance to help
arae8
There you go with the logic on the other side. Introverting doesn’t work that way. Nice try.
Raighto
I hate that I actually can relate to this! That poor helper, was all nice and helping, but will now live on knowinghe couldnt save me!
toffeecoffee
As much as I hate to bother ppl, if I was needed to help someone, I'd want to have the chance to step up and do all that I can and know 2/
toffeecoffee
that I tried my best. Care is all we really have during the toughest situations in life.
BurlapNutsack
I felt that physically
ImNotReallyADoctor
Not likely.. you see him chewing. And most people are instinctively coughing and throwing signs before they actually pass out
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsTheBabyAteMyDingo
You've seen to many movies.
KernalMustard
Guys look at the username
KernalMustard
Guys look at the username
SLCtechie
If you’re coughing, you can slightly breathe. Someone who’s severely choking will not cough and will not breathe.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Yeah but you would expect to be in some sort of distress. Anoxia generally causes agitation. He is just sitting there calmly.
bongles
You can see all of 1 second of what happens before his head drops
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I found the article and he IS choking. It must just be cropped so we dont see preceding events.
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
I'm deathly afraid if that happening when I'm at home alone. I know what to do but you don't have a lot of time
losersmanual
Be sure to learn how to heimlich yourself on the chair backrest.
SLCtechie
https://www.mayoclinic.org/first-aid/first-aid-choking/basics/art-20056637
TheScrappyScotsman
This was extremely helpful! Thank you! I'm saving this btw
ImNotReallyADoctor
I mean... u kinda proved me right with this one...