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Jun 23, 2021 12:25 PM
rexonasmuggler
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Iwouldbenick
If only they were offering cheap whiskey.
RigbyP
Be sure to knock loudly on the door when you bring them cookies. Like, around 9pm, 11pm, and again at 1 and 3 am.
Thephedora
She's offering tequila. Buy her a bottle and ask her to hang out after. Even for a little while
UmmonPrime
Yep, buy her a bottle of non cheap tequila. It really does make a difference.
reindeercrossing
Yeah, neighbours like this are rare where I live. I would love to take her up on the offer.
Laraweasil
‘Cry it out’ seems like something that if we did during the day, would be considered neglect. Weird.
rostock
That’s because it is.
KafkasKarma
Sleep training isn't the best way you can raise your child
TomieLobo
Ok, wtf is 4 month sleep regression (father of 2 asking)
Bridgiebird
I hope they included ear plugs with the note. My kiddo is going thru 8 month sleep regression and sleep training too. God help me. Any tips?
ChomskyWouldnt
At first I read the signature at the end as "the Wizards" and now I'm mildly disappointed
PacMan4Life
The Wards are good people
ThoseWeidmanns
And they need to cut themselves some slack. That letter reads like too many mommy blogs got in their head and they don’t trust themselves.
PersonalityFire
I mean look at some of these comments. A lot of people believe that an infant crying means it's being tortured.
Titweasel
Bake them a 'congratz on the sex' cake.
TheOldSchoolisBack
Sorry about the noise and the cars in your yard. My teenager decided to throw a party. He’s now available for free yard work as needed.
wazeewa
Hey, that's a great idea! Gonna keep that one for the future when my kid does something stupid like that.
SweetBabyJesus
Neighbors across the street have a daughter that is exactly a year and a day older than mine... I get a good glimpse of what's coming next.
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
And what no to do.
SweetBabyJesus
:Checks front window & writes on clipboard: "starts running into traffic around 14 months."
TexMexHex
If you just shake the little meatsack real good for a second or two, you should be ok.
drdavessardogs
I know "I" was a shaken baby, as a pilot when it gets turbulent I fall asleep at the wheel (Yoke)
Ghlain
Wish I had nice neighbors.. To my left is Polka music and below me is a Dubstep dollar store DJ.. Plus I'm a night shifter..
greggbert
The ferber method's side effects are worse than the cure.
maalco
I have sympathy for the parents but sleep training is bullshit
IMayPost
wish my neighbors did that...
drdavessardogs
This is how WE did it -
MissSiesta
Oh dear. The crying method doesn't always work out.
Ceistebi
It's okay to comfort your child, self-soothing will eventually happen, it's part of human development but it does vary between each person.
TheMeatIncident
this is how you do it. A simple letter smoothes things over so well.
reindeercrossing
Yep. Wish my neighbours would also air their grievances this way instead of automatically calling the police every time they're upset.
BahamutBBob
And a lot of tequila.
SavagePatchKids
I love your username
HaloArchitect
Usually. It's dependent on the reasonableness of the recipient. I agree that this is probably the best way to start.
Higure
And a warning ahead of time is worth a lot. Even though the warning is of no practical use.
TheNewYellowZealot
Q
DelusionsConfusions
our neighbours lied, claimed our dog bit them. demanded its death+claimed to LL its happened 3 times and wanted us evicted. proven False....
spacecowboyein
Honestly I'd still be upset having a screaming baby keep me awake all night, I just wouldn't hate them for it. Either way, what can you do?
manamongstyou
For sure, hard to be mad at them once you know the full context and what they are going through.
AnathemaNoreh
And being thoughtful enough to do it in advance. You're showing awareness and care for an unavoidable nuisance. Good people
Longbowgun
If you have noisy parties invite your neighbors. They are much less likely to call the cops.
Tomadzo
Gee. Communication and explanation works wonders to understanding others. Who woulda thought?
TheMeatIncident
Look, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to win imgur.
DarkRedCape
*checks OPs post history and points score* this motherfucker going for a win streak. He must be stopped!
CogPrimus
Are you?
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
Neuroscientist here studying child development: DON NOT USE THIS METHOD. THEY CAN'T SOOTHE THEMSELVES. ONLY COPE. IT'S MALADAPTIVE &HARMFUL
DougTheLlama
Don Knotts uses this method?
PandAnomoly
Yeah I was about to say isn't 4mo a little young for this type of thing?
PersonalityFire
4 months is indeed way too early for this. But no, it's not some mental health timebomb for kids, calm down.
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
(hopping on the top comment, hoping people will see this. Premature brain development is not fine. Also increases later risk for nightmares)
TheCompilerOfTales
What would be the correct method then? In general, of course.
duhduhgtffddrrffgghftffy31415
My friend wants to know too!
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
Science never has one-size-fits-all answers obv., but the gist is: They need external cues to calm, so they can learn to do it themselves
allumette24
Per this 2020 study from University of Warwick, CIO has no negative impact. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200310193305.htm
allumette24
CIO was a literal lifesaver for me. Some babies are easier than others. The impact of severe sleep deprivation can be devastating.
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
That study is mostly based on maternal self-reports - I research brain and stress system development. We agree that every child is different
allumette24
It is based on video of mother/child interactions, psychologist assessments, experimental data (strange situation) and parent self-reports.
allumette24
The use of CIO was self reported. The child development was assessed via observation.
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
just worry to see instructions circulating about letting a 4-Month-Old cry for an hour connect.springerpub.com/content/sgrcl/4/2/57.full.pdf
allumette24
Consider the impact on parent of drastic, chronic sleep deprivation. Anecdotally I can speak to self-harm, suicidal ideation, etc. You are
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entitled to your opinion, but please consider yr words on social media, because mother mental health is essential to infant development,
Mugworttea
I need to do something like this. My six month old is super clingy and screams bloody murder if she's put down. I worry how it sounds.
MagpieChristine
I refuse to recommend the method, because it's HARD, and it didn't work for my friends. But it was exactly what my kids needed.
EarthDragon2189
Maybe don't go the full cry-it-out method, but sleep training is definitely one of the best decisions you'll make as a parent.
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
I started cry it out early. I don’t have time for that. 3kids, 5.5, 3.5, 8months, put them to bed awake, go to sleep fine. Don’t usually >
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Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
Also, I had to close my windows to give my 5yo a haircut. He screamed bloody murder and yelled “free me!!” (I locked him in a high chair.)
MissSiesta
Secrets of the baby whisperer for babies by Tracy Hogg. You can choose your method.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
Sleep training is the absolute best. Our 18 month old is still clingy throughout the day, but she sleeps on her own within minutes.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
Worked for our 4-y.o. too. Only took 1-2 weeks for both of them. No waking up at night, no crawling into bed with us. Everybody is happier
OldsterBabe
Agreed. You don't leave them to cry, as the letter said, you comfort them every 5 minutes. The critical thing is not to pick them up. My >
OldsterBabe
First cried for 4 hours the first night (nearly killed me), 30 minutes the second night, 5 minutes the third night and was a dream at bedtim
OldsterBabe
Bedtime afterward. HOWEVER, he was 9 months old when I did it, not 4 months. He is now a prosecuting attorney. Helped him become independent
reindeercrossing
Don't worry. Most reasonable adults will understand and feel empathy. The ones that don't usually have other issues.
StCuntyMcFuckoff
We just sleep trained our twins and it was a game changer. Went from waking every 2-3 hours to sleeping 10 in a week
Smuckerz
It sounds like you need earplugs & Active Noise Canceling headphones overtop of those. Maybe that's how I made it to my mid 30s w/ no kids
LauriSleepMonster
I started it shortly after 6 months though method is called differently in German. At night worked the next day, during the day took a few
LauriSleepMonster
tries, but she got it. But I wouldn't recommend leaving them cry for an hour. That seems excessive
Zindarak1
you really shouldn't, babies scream because they're experiencing deep anxiety and leaving them alone can have a severely
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negative impact on their developing sociability and well being, it's generally advised that parents drop w/e they're
Zindarak1
doing to tend to their crying child even if you're soaking wet from taking a shower or bath
Thornaxe
You’ve either been lucky or never had kids.
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
*sigh... I was going to answer you but there is no point in this debate
Mugworttea
Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll just carry her into the shower with me and also not cook food, do dishes, or care for her sister.
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wazeewa
Hey, don't bow to social pressure. Children are a choice. If you don't want kids, don't have them.
flexstar
Absolutely
DoctorSniffles
4 months old is crazy young to try the cry it out method. Honestly the cry it out method in general is not great... also don't try and 1/
Colanah
Honestly couldn't find where they said the kid's age. Just '4 month sleep regression' which isn't an age, just a duration.
DoctorSniffles
It refers to a well know developmental leap which occurs at 4 months of age and causes poor sleeping.
DoctorSniffles
I understand the confusion though.
catromance
4 month sleep regression is the term for a sleep regression that happens at 4 months old.
DoctorSniffles
Sleep train your kid IN THE MIDDLE OF A DEVELOPMENTAL LEAP. sorry your kid wants to be held you heartless bastards. 2/2
Pttuw
They are leaping all the time it seems. I got a 11 month's old. Thankfully she sleeps well, but these so called leaps are all over the place
DoctorSniffles
They really are
Toastfrog
I actually never bothered even looking into them. My friends are always going on about kids going through a leap..my girl is 20 months now
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
Neuroscientist here studying child development: DON NOT USE THIS METHOD. THEY CAN'T SOOTHE THEMSELVES. ONLY COPE. IT'S HARMFUL & MALADAPTIVE
amoeba15
So out of curiosity: was it a good thing that from birth I laid my daughter in her crib with lullabies playing and let her fall asleep on 1
amoeba15
her own? She never cried, I'd just hear her babble and play for a bit. She did start sleeping through the night at 6 weeks.
mykewljordan
i would add if they wake up at night and cry, they have a need you need to fulfill, it is not spoiling.
mykewljordan
lack of sleep is part of parenthood (so is going crazy a bit). coffee is your best friend. Signed a father of 3 kids all under 5yo.
mykewljordan
after a year or so, tiredness becomes your baseline and you get used to it. you need to tough it out, not the kids
IdUsuallyJustLurkButGeez
This. I get that it's really rough and noone is always immediately at the ready. But that's why we should push for support for parents,
DoctorSniffles
I got 2 under 3 myself and I have night duty.
lurkilydurkiler
I HATE this parenting method! Teach your baby you won’t respond to it’s cries and needs. Awesome.
MissSiesta
Don't know why people downvote you. There are plenty of alternative ways of getting kids to sleep.
MissSiesta
Secrets of the baby whisperer by Tracy Hogg, for example. Create a sleeping habit and the kid feels safe.
EarthDragon2189
*Teach your baby that they will need to take care of some needs themselves. FTFY
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lurkilydurkiler
Did they explain that to you in a complete sentence?
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Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
Meh, I did something like it with mine. I’ve got 3 and they all go to bed awake and fall sleep just fine. I don’t have time to hold them>
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reindeercrossing
Have you been a parent? Even then, not all kids are built the same. Some cry much more than others. I was the same, and this didn't hurt me.
lurkilydurkiler
Yes, 3, and I was a nanny.
dmh88
100% look up Gabor Mate and his thoughts on leaving your child and the harm it causes. They have to know your there when they need you
EarthDragon2189
That's what the check-ins are for. But the baby also needs to learn self-soothing. It's an important skill.
dmh88
Seems more like you’re teaching them you’ll be there when you feel like it and not when they need you
EarthDragon2189
Nope. More like "parent will respond to crying about x, but it looks like I need to learn to deal with y on my own."
Kittyvonmeowser
Babies do not self soothe. They learn to not cry when they have a need as they will be ignored. Most experts are against it for good reason
EarthDragon2189
If you continue to respond to cries for actual needs, then they won't learn that. They'll just learn that not wanting to sleep isn't a need.
lurkilydurkiler
Thank you! We have the entire rest of our lives to learn what a cruel place the world is. Comfort those babies!
marthafarquar
Just give the baby the tequila.
Deethe1st
ImKindaDone
Replace with whiskey and you could be Scottish. :)
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
nostradumasss
Problem solved!
TheFeralDog
Psh you're supposed to start them out with rum first tequila is harder to take
wiltsjunk
I've had family members who rubbed whisky on the gums of babies who are teething. (Their own babies, not like random ones).
druu
I now imagine a super hero named Cpt. Jim John Jameson, stumbling around town, rubbing whisky on crying babies' gums. Thank you
NumptyDumptyLump
I'd watch this. Underrated comment. +1
sundaymondayhippyday
I will dream this tonight thank you•
djbahamut
That's what my parents did for me and I fine out turned good yes.
aleardie
I love you so much for this
belligerentrightdoer
Fine yes you turned what good out the parents did BUT not the what you should've instead thankfully you perfect anything regardless
chikichikiyei
Mexican here, we do that for new teeth cries and it works.
ImpossibleAgenda
It really does.
captainhappen
American here, I had whiskey rubbed on my gums as a baby. Better than oragel.
SeePriceInCart
But how will they bite into the Lime without their baby teeth?
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
Gums are hard. They can still bite the limes.
Kennleth
A lime juice bottle, Avi.
shmoogeeoogee
They will not use limes. They shall be strong
SeveralSpeciesOfSmallFurryAnimalsGatheredTogetherInACave
The Cry-it-out method is not how you do it. It's cruel.
swagb98623
You were old enough to remember being wiened off the titty, weren't you?
Iygbjwa
Oof. I'm gonna use that one.
SeveralSpeciesOfSmallFurryAnimalsGatheredTogetherInACave
You don't have children, do you?
swagb98623
Let me guess, your kids were offended by the method? It only counts if they are super duper offended
SeveralSpeciesOfSmallFurryAnimalsGatheredTogetherInACave
Wrong guess, Hans! Would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change?
EarthDragon2189
Babies remember and resent less than you're giving them credit for.
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
It’s fine. Babies need to learn to self-soothe. It doesn’t mean neglect. If they’re just tired, and not hungry, wet, or in pain, letting>
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And quite often she wakes in the middle of a nap, cries for a few min, then goes back to sleep. If I go get her, she’d be fussy for hours.
EnormousCoat
Their font choice shows how on the edge they are.
spaceisnotthathard
Nothing softens the blow like comic sans
KoRplussomeletters
I dunno, that looks nicer than Comic Saaaaaaaaans...
theimgurappsucksballs
aleardie
In the future they’ll be exam questions like: “please describe the original meme format and any 5 subsequent iterations from the last decade
CritterrCatcher
Had this thought myself
peterbozeman
At least it is not "chiller".
Vaeyn
People that use chiller are the least dangerous people alive. No selfrespecting serial killer would eschew the chance to write in real blood
Nivvi
Next step is letter and words cut out from magazines.
souleater2847
KiD GOin tO SlEEp oR kID goiN LeArn! - next letter
cenfou2tout
There is a font for that
Nivvi
Its not the same, does not scream "UNHINGED"
LegendaryGarf
Is it italic comic sans?
VodkaReindeer
It's italic but not comic sans. I can tell by the pixel on the s
enkrypt3d
Not a huge fan of this self soothing bs. If they are crying it's usually for a reason. Hunger, dirty diapers, tummy ache, gas etc.
EarthDragon2189
Sometimes the reason is "Mommy left me and I haven't learned how to soothe myself yet." That's the problem sleep training addresses.
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EarthDragon2189
And that's a fair distinction.
enkrypt3d
Nothing wrong with CO sleeping. Worked fine for my two boys
EarthDragon2189
No thanks. Way too many experiences seeing other parents give in and do co-sleeping only for the kids to set up shop and never want to leave
enkrypt3d
We didn't have any problems with it. They're both sleeping on their own now peacefully.
EarthDragon2189
I'm glad it worked out for you. I'm not going to risk it. Especially when, in my experience, sleep training is so easy and works so well.
drdavessardogs
CO sleeping? Like Carbon Monoxide?
enkrypt3d
Yes they're sooo quiet!!