"you get nothing." LEO and ice losers are paid absurdly well. Their unions have made it so they get paid double time for basically everything, all kinds of bonuses, per diem that exceeds any cost of food/shelter Costs. Then there's the fact that these fuckers lie ahout hours worked all the time damn time. They talk about police gangs and such, well those are the rackets they operate. Part of it at least. You're not going to find a cop that makes under $100k easy.Compare it to EMTs. it's fucked
Or shatter and take out your eye itself. Not pretty. Same can happen with cheaper "safety glasses" that are absolutely not meant for anything. Be sure to check impact ratings!
"So that some asshole in a boardroom can add another zero to his bank account and you get nothing from it" Uhhh isn't being an ICE agent a pretty high paying job with a big sign on bonus? It's not like they're doing it as volunteers.
These detention centers are engaged in torture- worker: /gallery/torture-ice-private-detention-centers-bSU3TeW Please see my first-hand report as therapist on torture of detainees in ICE for-profit detention centers- please help me spread the word/testify- Must also let people know Blacks, Dems, the Left, Progressives are being targeted too and what "disruption" Ops https://imgur.com/gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 1
MAGA gave Musk a pretext to steal all our social security, health, financial data too. MAGA "soft" eugenics- Corrosion-Zerstezung- we taught the Nazis-"disruption": https://www.historynewsnetwork.eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-hoorg/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-amer">rrifying">org/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-american-roots-of-nazi-eugenics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1299061/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics https://conexiant.com/family-medicine/articles/why-black-americans-health-progress-stalls-in-the-us/ 5
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I'm on your side on this. You're allowed to call people out and it be true and also be true for us. Its not exclusive and the downvotes against you kind of prove your point. People have a lack of inward self reflection so they feel attacked and they think because they cant do it, you can't either.
And that stopped them from kidnapping people or... what? I seem to be missing the effect of this. Other than of course "spreading awareness" which is essentially doing nothing and patting yourself on the back for it.
Yawn. If you're going to make bullshit claims like this the least you could do is have something to back it up. Yes, yes, I get it, standing around yelling doesn't look very impressive and yes, it doesn't work often. But this naysayer bullshit from someone like you who has done absolutely fuck all and doesn't know history is exhausting.
What i have to back it up is literally the state of the world and how ICE haven't been disbanded or changed in any meaningful way. Pretty self explanatory evidence I'd say.
For me to even want to provide such evidence, that would have to be something I said. But unfortunately for you, I never did. In fact i didn't even come close to saying that.
But good on you for trying, even if you need to improve your reading comprehension a lot
Ah, we're ignoring all the court cases they're constantly losing and the restrictions placed on them in several states, interesting. I didn't know just pretending things didn't exist to prop up our poorly thought out points was on the table.
You know what. I'm gonna just let you live up to your name. You're just some ignorant shit head. I'm not going to waste my time on you if you're going to sit there and just ignore the facts and be purposely obtuse while you do fuck all but whine other people aren't doing anything. Get off your hypocritical ass and fight the system. You want to know the amount of real affect the protests have had? Wipe the crumbs off your chin, go outside. Not doing your work for you if you're gonna be a shit.
There is a vast difference between doing something, and doing something useful. You're right tho, you are doing something. Unfortunately it's not useful, but you refuse to learn from that and just think if you do your rain dance louder or with more people, it will finally work.
And when someone does come along with water, or should I say if, or if the fire instead just burns itself out then you will celebrate that its all because of your dance, and learn nothing
Even noise alone can be strategic, but it has to be prolonged and loud enough, it has to be intrusive and disruptive. It's like dumb and dumber, the most annoying sound in the world where he just screams in your ear for ages. Imagine that, but if it only lasted a second. Not so annoying, right? Sure he can do it louder, but still not that big a deal. Especially when he does it over there, in the other room, or he comes in, does it once then leaves.
Incorrect. It does not, at all. The most basic purpose of a protest is to make noise. That's it. Protests are so that the voice of the people is heard whether folks want to hear it or not. Protests are a single tool in the box, they are not the be all, end all. They are used in conjunction with other things to affect change and those other things might require strategy, protests do not.
Awww. Somebody got butthurt and blocked me. But by all means, thank you for making my point. A protest is a tool. The effect is to make noise. If its effect is not linked to an objective, it’s not a very good use of the tool. I can use a screwdriver to turn a screw all day. I can loosen it and tighten it. That does not make that work useful.
Awww. Somebody wants to be a victim and think I blocked them. I didn't make your point but I can understand how you might think that, ignorance does lead to misunderstanding of reality. The protest is the objective, dingus. The noise is the objective. To be annoying, to draw attention, to be a distraction, is the objective. Not every protest needs to be planned to be effective. Go actually learn something. Impromptu protests have absolutely been effective in the past, despite your condescension.
To be VERY clear, because you're going to have a hard time understanding, whether organized or not, protests are not what gets shit done. Protests are meant ONLY to spur those in power to get shit done and that's literally through being annoying and loud. Being organized is useful but not a requirement and no amount of you sneering down your greasy nose while you lurk in your sweaty gamer chair doing exponentially less than the "loud whiners" you're condescending about will change that.
I see. And what are you doing about the injustice perpetrated by the state and enforced with weapons? Are you sitting on the sofa writing angry comments?
Being in a different country. Unable to do anything, even vote, yet still forced to suffer the consequences of it all. It's depressing how my only hope is americans learning something or being proactive. So really... we're doomed
Well, the USA isn't the only place where injustice prevails. There’s a whole world beyond your sofa where you could take a stand against injustice. And, what do you do?
None of those effect the entire world as much as your mad tyrant. But yeah, I'm lazy and I don't do anything. I'm fully aware of that. But you know the difference?
I don't claim otherwise. You do. That's why I'm trying to get you to fucking understand so you can take your moral crusade against injustice and do it actually effectively, instead of patting yourself on the back while everything burns around you because "atleast your doing something"
And why won't you learn? Because you've deluded yourself into this "American Dream" that if you just protest then your government will listen to you because they are public servants. That you use old examples of protests without actually understanding 90% of what happened or why. You're too stuck between "streets must run red with blood!" Or "peaceful protests" to understand how to do either effectively, not that you will ever do the second.
The amount of fucking morons on here that say it *has* to be violence that solves it because there are no other solutions, which means they are too stupid to think of anything else.
Do we see violence tho? Of course we don't. Do we see anything effective? No.
All we see is people making comments about "injustice" and doing a whole load of nothing, but doing so in a way that makes them feel better about the world burning.
We do see effective shit, you're just too stupid to bother paying attention. You just wanna talk shit from your crusty ass gamer chair. Go fuck yourself.
tallyhoho
Appropriate amount of rage
thedarkcanuck
They don't get nothing from it, they get to subjugate brown people. That's their motivation.
twoamartist
Love you all. Wish I could join you. Making me proud to be a Jersey lifer.
Jamesstin
"you get nothing." LEO and ice losers are paid absurdly well. Their unions have made it so they get paid double time for basically everything, all kinds of bonuses, per diem that exceeds any cost of food/shelter Costs. Then there's the fact that these fuckers lie ahout hours worked all the time damn time. They talk about police gangs and such, well those are the rackets they operate. Part of it at least. You're not going to find a cop that makes under $100k easy.Compare it to EMTs. it's fucked
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Kudos to them for wearing goggles. Smart.
DeviousWay
Please, wear safety lenses and not swim goggles.
If hit in the face right, swim goggles can become a wedge and cause damage to the bones around your eye.
BastardSeagull
Or shatter and take out your eye itself. Not pretty. Same can happen with cheaper "safety glasses" that are absolutely not meant for anything. Be sure to check impact ratings!
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
They're intended to protect against tear-gas.
DeviousWay
I agree. But the filth like to throw hands when they outnumber the protesters
rhalm
"So that some asshole in a boardroom can add another zero to his bank account and you get nothing from it"
Uhhh isn't being an ICE agent a pretty high paying job with a big sign on bonus? It's not like they're doing it as volunteers.
chevymonster
The sign-on bonuses only pay out after several years of staying on the job. They are never going to see that bonus.
michaelfire
These detention centers are engaged in torture- worker: /gallery/torture-ice-private-detention-centers-bSU3TeW Please see my first-hand report as therapist on torture of detainees in ICE for-profit detention centers- please help me spread the word/testify- Must also let people know Blacks, Dems, the Left, Progressives are being targeted too and what "disruption" Ops https://imgur.com/gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 1
michaelfire
US Govt sponsored COIN warfare on Blacks, the Left /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 50 years of Cointelpro warfare, mass state-sponsored violence https://imgur.com/gallery/mlk-day-is-also-about-truth-reconciliation-about-us-government-abuse-of-power-WTViMK2 mass-torture, state- sponsored extrajudicial punishment, brutality, political repression https://imgur.com/gallery/torture-ice-private-detention-centers-bSU3TeW 2
michaelfire
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michaelfire
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michaelfire
MAGA gave Musk a pretext to steal all our social security, health, financial data too. MAGA "soft" eugenics- Corrosion-Zerstezung- we taught the Nazis-"disruption": https://www.historynewsnetwork.eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-hoorg/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-amer">rrifying">org/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-american-roots-of-nazi-eugenics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1299061/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics https://conexiant.com/family-medicine/articles/why-black-americans-health-progress-stalls-in-the-us/ 5
michaelfire
MAGA Eugenics "let the weak get sick; let minorities get sick; let the poor get sick" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/donald-trump-wants-to-make-eugenics-great-again-lets-noets-not/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/donald-trut/ h">ets-not/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/donald-trump-wants-to-make-e">mp-wants">t/ h">ets-not/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/donald-trump-wants-to-make-eugenics-great-again-lets-not/ https://www.nature.com/scitable/forums/genetics-generation/america-s-hidden-history-the-eugenics-movement-123919444/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics https://www.statnews.com/2024/10/28/eugenics-in-political-rhetoric-open-science-movement-expert-analysis/ 6
DasBeaker
I think this is the first time I can applaud New Jersey. Ok I forgive you guys for Snooki.
enderite
You wanna hear expletives?
Jersey and you… perfect together.
FatBastardVegetarian
"I fart in your general direction." That first guy, probably
cgt9803
"You take orders from a child molester, you losers"
BeaverOnFire
Jamesstin
Barf
BeaverOnFire
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Jamesstin
That URL looks like it gives people gonorrhea.
BeaverOnFire
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OmnibusLatinName
"You serve unworthy masters. You have no honor."
eathotdog
Their hypocrites, not klingons
OmnibusLatinName
It's a Klingon insult. It's devastating. You're devastated right now.
ForceAwakenWasLame
I got one. You lie and cheat in service of liars and cheaters. Am I doin it rite?
Shiznit007
These are higheedr thugs. They're not going to take whatever you say seriously
Chilichunks
Hired?
SilverStarPine
Thugs are cowards.
azazyel
I think people for some reason think you're talking about the protesters being hired. Not the ICE agents.
NotACanadian
Imgurians aren't the brightest bunch. Spending years of inhaling your own farts give you a bit of a one track mind.
Butterupmybuttcheeks
I see the expert on stupidity has spoken.
Chilichunks
Says the Imgurian.
NotACanadian
Yeah, I'm stupid
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
I'm on your side on this. You're allowed to call people out and it be true and also be true for us. Its not exclusive and the downvotes against you kind of prove your point. People have a lack of inward self reflection so they feel attacked and they think because they cant do it, you can't either.
Someshithead241
And that stopped them from kidnapping people or... what? I seem to be missing the effect of this. Other than of course "spreading awareness" which is essentially doing nothing and patting yourself on the back for it.
Chilichunks
Yawn. If you're going to make bullshit claims like this the least you could do is have something to back it up. Yes, yes, I get it, standing around yelling doesn't look very impressive and yes, it doesn't work often. But this naysayer bullshit from someone like you who has done absolutely fuck all and doesn't know history is exhausting.
Someshithead241
What i have to back it up is literally the state of the world and how ICE haven't been disbanded or changed in any meaningful way.
Pretty self explanatory evidence I'd say.
Someshithead241
But hey, if you have any proof of how these protests have stopped ICE, go right ahead.
Chilichunks
But hey, if you have any proof protests never work, go right ahead.
Someshithead241
For me to even want to provide such evidence, that would have to be something I said. But unfortunately for you, I never did. In fact i didn't even come close to saying that.
But good on you for trying, even if you need to improve your reading comprehension a lot
Chilichunks
Ah, we're ignoring all the court cases they're constantly losing and the restrictions placed on them in several states, interesting. I didn't know just pretending things didn't exist to prop up our poorly thought out points was on the table.
Someshithead241
How many of those are the result of protests, and how many are the result of people actually doing something?
Chilichunks
You know what. I'm gonna just let you live up to your name. You're just some ignorant shit head. I'm not going to waste my time on you if you're going to sit there and just ignore the facts and be purposely obtuse while you do fuck all but whine other people aren't doing anything. Get off your hypocritical ass and fight the system. You want to know the amount of real affect the protests have had? Wipe the crumbs off your chin, go outside. Not doing your work for you if you're gonna be a shit.
DancingPanther
Them: do something about this, America!
Americans do something about this
Them: not like that!
Someshithead241
Them: Oh my god, you're on fire! America, Do something! You need to put it out quick!
Americans start doing a rain dance
Them: Not like that! Something useful!
Americans: Ugh, atleast I'm doing something!
Someshithead241
That's what you sound like.
Someshithead241
There is a vast difference between doing something, and doing something useful. You're right tho, you are doing something. Unfortunately it's not useful, but you refuse to learn from that and just think if you do your rain dance louder or with more people, it will finally work.
And when someone does come along with water, or should I say if, or if the fire instead just burns itself out then you will celebrate that its all because of your dance, and learn nothing
DancingPanther
Thanks, shithead
imeatingpizzaandfuckit
Stop downvoting. This is correct. Protesting has to be tied to a strategy to be anything other than loud noises.
Niagaran
Same people downvoting are the same one who think they can just vote out fascists.
Fascists can not be removed gently from power.
Someshithead241
Even noise alone can be strategic, but it has to be prolonged and loud enough, it has to be intrusive and disruptive.
It's like dumb and dumber, the most annoying sound in the world where he just screams in your ear for ages. Imagine that, but if it only lasted a second.
Not so annoying, right? Sure he can do it louder, but still not that big a deal.
Especially when he does it over there, in the other room, or he comes in, does it once then leaves.
But every time, he congratulates himself on
imeatingpizzaandfuckit
Yes. Too many people think the protest itself is the objective. That’s my point exactly.
Someshithead241
Annoying you thoroughly and that doing something worthwhile. When really you glance at it, then continue on with what you were doing.
Chilichunks
Incorrect. It does not, at all. The most basic purpose of a protest is to make noise. That's it. Protests are so that the voice of the people is heard whether folks want to hear it or not. Protests are a single tool in the box, they are not the be all, end all. They are used in conjunction with other things to affect change and those other things might require strategy, protests do not.
imeatingpizzaandfuckit
Individual. Protest. Events. Without. Strategy. Do. Almost. Nothing. Except. Let. People. Pat. Themselves. On. The. Back. It’s very loud whining.
Chilichunks
It's. Okay. To. Be. Wrong. While. You. Do. Fucking. Nothing. And. Talk. Shit. About. People. Actually. Doing. Something. While. You. Mentally. Jerk. Yourself. From. Behind. A. Keyboard. You're a very loud whiner.
imeatingpizzaandfuckit
Awww. Somebody got butthurt and blocked me. But by all means, thank you for making my point. A protest is a tool. The effect is to make noise. If its effect is not linked to an objective, it’s not a very good use of the tool. I can use a screwdriver to turn a screw all day. I can loosen it and tighten it. That does not make that work useful.
Chilichunks
Awww. Somebody wants to be a victim and think I blocked them. I didn't make your point but I can understand how you might think that, ignorance does lead to misunderstanding of reality. The protest is the objective, dingus. The noise is the objective. To be annoying, to draw attention, to be a distraction, is the objective. Not every protest needs to be planned to be effective. Go actually learn something. Impromptu protests have absolutely been effective in the past, despite your condescension.
Chilichunks
To be VERY clear, because you're going to have a hard time understanding, whether organized or not, protests are not what gets shit done. Protests are meant ONLY to spur those in power to get shit done and that's literally through being annoying and loud. Being organized is useful but not a requirement and no amount of you sneering down your greasy nose while you lurk in your sweaty gamer chair doing exponentially less than the "loud whiners" you're condescending about will change that.
Chilichunks
Actual dogshit analogy btw since a screwdriver's only function is to screw stuff, useful or not doesn't matter.
Thorketil
I see. And what are you doing about the injustice perpetrated by the state and enforced with weapons? Are you sitting on the sofa writing angry comments?
Someshithead241
Being in a different country. Unable to do anything, even vote, yet still forced to suffer the consequences of it all.
It's depressing how my only hope is americans learning something or being proactive.
So really... we're doomed
Thorketil
Well, the USA isn't the only place where injustice prevails. There’s a whole world beyond your sofa where you could take a stand against injustice. And, what do you do?
Someshithead241
None of those effect the entire world as much as your mad tyrant.
But yeah, I'm lazy and I don't do anything. I'm fully aware of that. But you know the difference?
I don't claim otherwise. You do. That's why I'm trying to get you to fucking understand so you can take your moral crusade against injustice and do it actually effectively, instead of patting yourself on the back while everything burns around you because "atleast your doing something"
Someshithead241
And why won't you learn? Because you've deluded yourself into this "American Dream" that if you just protest then your government will listen to you because they are public servants.
That you use old examples of protests without actually understanding 90% of what happened or why.
You're too stuck between "streets must run red with blood!" Or "peaceful protests" to understand how to do either effectively, not that you will ever do the second.
Someshithead241
The amount of fucking morons on here that say it *has* to be violence that solves it because there are no other solutions, which means they are too stupid to think of anything else.
Do we see violence tho? Of course we don't. Do we see anything effective? No.
All we see is people making comments about "injustice" and doing a whole load of nothing, but doing so in a way that makes them feel better about the world burning.
Chilichunks
We do see effective shit, you're just too stupid to bother paying attention. You just wanna talk shit from your crusty ass gamer chair. Go fuck yourself.
Chilichunks
Keep crashing out you ignorant, lazy dink.